Live Lite Tracks, Live Lite Hacks: 8 track limit workaround

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00:00 Intro
00:51 Drum racks
05:43 Instrument racks
12:26 Summary and card to part 2
13:55 Outro
Live Lite comes with an 8 track limitation, but there's a couple tricks to greatly increase your actual track count! In this video, I'll show you the 2 I found and consistently use in my projects

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  • @TheNeonSyndicate
    @TheNeonSyndicate2 жыл бұрын

    You asked, now it's here! Part 2, or how to get more AUDIO tracks as well, not just MIDI >>> kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymac0MRydZm2lqQ.html

  • @ThreeBeingOne
    @ThreeBeingOne6 күн бұрын

    You can also type in chain selector values by double clicking on envelope in clip. Hovering over edge of blue bar allows for creation of instrument cross fades for layering

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    6 күн бұрын

    Yup. Love Live 💛

  • @vivahousemusic9
    @vivahousemusic92 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!!!! This is gonna help me so much to put all those extra drum noises ive been wanting to put on!!!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @mkiemkie
    @mkiemkie2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this great video! After playing around with Live Lite for some time (using some YT instruction videos) I realized that 8 tracks are not enough. But with your hack (especially the first one for the drums) 8 tracks are not so bad at all. ;) I also like the fact that using a drum rack gives me the sequencer feeling I had back then with hardware devices (seeing a pattern of the rhythm I'm creating).

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure! Yeah drum racks are something they implemented really well for sure

  • @abezhanyan
    @abezhanyan Жыл бұрын

    great hack, thanks, man! I just tried it with a VST plugin - BBC orchestra, and it worked great!!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    Seweet! Is that the one by Spitfire?

  • @renodigitalservice
    @renodigitalservice Жыл бұрын

    Nothing wrong for a small guy like me bro!!!!! 8 tracks more than enough to create my beats (the Beatles recorded in 4 tracks back in those days man).

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, in that case, I say, more power to you my friend! But if you ever feel like you need some extra tracks, you now know what to do about it 👍

  • @pdppdp3854
    @pdppdp385411 ай бұрын

    your workarounds are really great!! People also need to understand, that if you have another DAW that is running... something like the low cost Reaper Daw, you can essentially route everything you have done.. and put it on separated tracks on another Daw, by routing the audio out of Lite --> Reaper using virtual audio applications like Voicemeter on PC, or Blackhole on Macs Using the best functionality in Ableton lite that other daws dont have is a great way to integrate Daws to work as one

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks! You're right about that, have some videos on doing this with blackhole but these days I prefer to have different instruments on the same track filtered by notes = different ranges trigger different instruments. With that + the 2 tricks in this video, I'm able to get many many tracks playing even at the same time!

  • @shuklajayant
    @shuklajayant8 ай бұрын

    Thank you. This is extraordinary

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    8 ай бұрын

    my pleasure!

  • @jadenthomas100
    @jadenthomas1002 ай бұрын

    🤩🤯Very cool. thanks for sharing!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 ай бұрын

    Sure thing! Be sure to check out a more recent video I did on that for even more tricks: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHuJwbyiYqy0iM4.html

  • @garudasomanna
    @garudasomannaАй бұрын

    This is my first Ableton Live Lite KZread video that I have searched and found. I have recently purchase Volt 176 that included Ableton Live 12 Lite. I am a GarageBand user, mainly using it for recording vocals, song writing and singing alone being my talents. I get the music composed by a musician who gives me the song's mix which I then master in GarageBand. With my limited knowledge of music, I think I can only play about with this app, and at my age of 72, do not have the time to learn playing instruments at a professional level. Any way, thanks for this video that has given me some insights into the depths available in this DAW.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Ай бұрын

    Glad to hear this was useful in some way! For your usage-scenario, I think Garageband is probably the best option - Ableton is more of a live-oriented thing where you launch different clips and play different instruments and loops and all of that. I also use GarageBand sometimes, it has some great virtual instruments!

  • @garudasomanna

    @garudasomanna

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate Thanks for your studied reply. It is best for me to be stick to the basics and be more productive with the skills God has already given 😊🙏.?God bless you 🙏

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Ай бұрын

    @@garudasomanna You know, it's not so much a matter of sticking to the basics, as much as using your time wisely, i.e. on things that will give you results. My impression from your comment is that GB is more the adequate for everything you do, whereas Live Lite, while it would certainly help live (which, from what I understand, you don't really need), would be way more cumbersome to use in the studio. That's where GB excels!

  • @garudasomanna

    @garudasomanna

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate I appreciate your studied answer once again. I had other things on mind when I wrote 'sticking to basics'. Mastering I know is a complicated topic that people have done long term courses to be proficient at. But, I am able to get decent levels of good sounding masters for my KZread videos in GarageBand using mostly it's in built plugins. You are right: given my age, I don't have the time to start dabbling with Ableton Live as it will not serve my limited needs. Thanks for replying.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Ай бұрын

    @@garudasomanna Right, all the best with your efforts! 💪

  • @modhiab
    @modhiab Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    my pleasure. Check out the updated version for infinite tracks as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4WM2LqYgrTQkZM.html

  • @Noldy__
    @Noldy__2 жыл бұрын

    This made me buy the Live Intro. I'd instead use the extra money to buy plugins. And it having only 16 tracks makes one find creative workarounds. People have made way more with fewer tracks in the past.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's definitely a place for songs with fewer tracks, even in today's industry I think. Depending on the genre and the image of the artis

  • @limitededition1053
    @limitededition10532 жыл бұрын

    The Beatles only had 4 tracks to record their songs. They complained about this during Let It Be sessions as The Beach Boys had 8 tracks. They (the engineers) would bounce three tracks on to one and then start again. On tape that had its problems but there were workarounds. With Ableton can you not do that? Save 4 or 5 or even 8 tracks to one wav file and then start again and add them together in the final mix?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love that "less is more" kinda mindset, and yes, what you're suggesting would be totally feasible in Ableton as well. That being said though, having 32 tracks has its advantages, and I'm speaking from personal experience here. Picture this: you just recorded what you believe is a perfect automation curve for a certain effect on a certain track, say a delay that gets more prominent in a certain section of the song and less so on the rest. Then you bounce that track together with others and place that stem onto one of your 8 tracks in Ableton - like you suggested. Then you keep working on you mix, and after a little while you realize "man, that delay is just too prominent, I need to tone it down a bit". Well, you would need to reopen that other project, turn down the effect, re-render everything, re-import it into your new project, and repeat the whole process whenever you need to do any small adjustments. Very time-consuming and vibe-killing, trust me, I've been there! I much prefer the kind of setup I outlined in the video because it still limits your options ("less is more", right?) but not to the point where you're shooting yourself in the foot!

  • @limitededition1053

    @limitededition1053

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate yes of course more tracks is better. The Beatles engineers had to work long hours to give them the mix they wanted. I need to watch your video again cause I don't quite get it. On your drum track if you expand it it just seperates the individual drum parts to mix how does that give you another track? Sorry your video is a great help just trying to understand.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@limitededition1053 You're right about that. Think of it this way: if you where recording audio, say a real drum kit or even a drum machine, maybe an 808, you would have to use up as many tracks as there are articulations. So one track for the kick, one for the snare, and so on. Now, you can see how quickly you could use up all 8 your available tracks like that! But thankfully, there's drum racks, which, as you pointed out, allow you to just use up 1 track for up to 128 different articulations - which again, if you had to use audio tracks to record actual drums or hardware that means 128 audio tracks! Now 128 I think is a bit overkill, 16 is perfectly fine, maybe up that to 32 or 48 if you're gonna layer 3 different kits, but still, I find it remarkable that a lite version that's only supposed to give you 8 tracks actually allows for such big drum setups. And then of course there's that 2nd "trick" as well, theinstrument rack part, so your 7 remaining tracks can most likely be upped to at least 10 or 12, which is pretty cool too. And if that's not enough still, or if you want to not only use MIDI but audio tracks as well, you can always use that method explained in the other video - which, btw, I just sold my PC you see in these videos to get myself a Mac and you can implement it there as well in an even easier and quicker way!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@limitededition1053 So just to give you an example, my projects usually look like this: 16 or 32 drum "tracks" on the first of my 8 available tracks; the next 3 are actually receiving audio from one separate project each, so that's another 24 tracks; that leaves me with another 4 tracks on my main project, one of which I reserve for referencing (directly streaming my reference tracks into it from Spotify, so I can slap a frequency analyzer on there and see their tonal balance etc.), another one I route everything else to (so it's kinda like my master buss, where I put my clipper and limiter), and the remaining 2 tracks I use for MIDI but with instrument racks so they could be upped to 2 or maybe even 4 tracks each or more, depending on the song. So that would give me a total of idk. let's be conservative here and say 16 + 24 + 2 = 42 tracks just for my sounds, and I'm not even counting utility stuff like all my return tracks (8 in total), any groups I might set up for stem processing (no limit there!) and my reference and master tracks! Again, me personally, it just blows my mind that a lite version can actually accomplish all this with just a couple minor workarounds.

  • @stuartmoxham5889

    @stuartmoxham5889

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate might be easier and more effective to just buy the full version, would save a lot of messing around. Would surely be a much nicer workflow for you.

  • @CoredusK
    @CoredusK Жыл бұрын

    That's sick, thank you!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    my pleasure! Be sure to check out my updated video on this for an even higher MIDI track count: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gHuJwbyiYqy0iM4.html

  • @mauromanno5412
    @mauromanno54122 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thank you! :-)

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    my pleasure

  • @notcloudology
    @notcloudology Жыл бұрын

    You are saving my life, I actually spent all the money on quality gear and the computer first instead of the daw now I was struggling with the 8 tracks limitation bc I tend to use a lot of tracks and I don't want to use pirate programms, I actually got a cubase elements 12 license but I miss ableton and the workflow sometimes so I'm going to try this to see if Ableton stills the king, THANK YOU!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    My pleasure! I have some more videos on how to deal with the 8 track limitation, and actually have a new one planned for next week that's gonna greatly build upon the concepts lined out in this one and allow for even more tracks in one single project!

  • @notcloudology

    @notcloudology

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate Really cool! I'm subscribed so I hope youtube sends me the notification :s

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@notcloudology Thanks man, appreciate that. Vid's gonna be up next Friday ✌

  • @EMSAYMADA
    @EMSAYMADA2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks big brother!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    my pleasure

  • @hendrixqotsa
    @hendrixqotsa Жыл бұрын

    Thanks sooo much bro, Subscribed

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man. Happy to hear this was helpful!

  • @daithiwright9779
    @daithiwright97792 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic..... thanks so much

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    my pleasure!

  • @happyjessus
    @happyjessus2 жыл бұрын

    Good! so now not only do I have more tracks to work with but I also know how to use bus fxs inside a drum rack. Thanks for the help man!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to help 👍

  • @TheBristolVibe
    @TheBristolVibe10 ай бұрын

    Most early 90’s rave tunes were made with just 8 tracks octamed being a prime example of one used

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    10 ай бұрын

    Nothing wrong with that. Works for some genres & songs, not for others

  • @TheBristolVibe

    @TheBristolVibe

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicatethat’s what I mean, unless it’s film scoring or really heavy Intensive sound design Ableton lite works fine it’s what I started with, it has analogue, a sampler a drum rack some great effects all you’d need to start making basic edm especially with the sampler the sky is the limit, most of the 90’s stuff was made purely on one akai s900

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheBristolVibe Yeah, can't complain! Although gotta say, Analog? I wish haha but we get Drift which I'm using more and more these days, the amount of stuff you can get done with just the limited set of controls is amazing!

  • @VA1ENTINX
    @VA1ENTINX2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    my pleasure. Have fun!

  • @prodtomzy
    @prodtomzy2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    my pleasure. Have fun!

  • @slvrcross
    @slvrcross2 жыл бұрын

    Yes please make the recordings version, part 2

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    alright alright :D

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, ask and you shall receive! Just finished uploading it. Will premiere tomorrow. Here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymac0MRydZm2lqQ.html

  • @Btone33
    @Btone332 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tutorial. If I'm using Kontakt, should I just use the multi-rack feature to load all my sounds? Can I load multiple instances of Komplete Kontrol in your MIDI workaround?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure. Not familiar with Komplete Kontrol, but I've used Kontakt in the past and as far as I remember, if you want to make use of its multi-output functionality, you need actual audio tracks. Seeing as you're gonna be using up 1 track as a MIDI track to host Kontakt, that leaves you with another 7 stereo audio tracks to send your samples to. If you feel like you need more audio tracks, I have a tutorial on that as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymac0MRydZm2lqQ.html

  • @ImplosiveCatt
    @ImplosiveCatt2 жыл бұрын

    You can play more than one instrument at the same time in the instrument rack with velocity or key zones.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. Too bad it just occurred to me recently so I couldn't include it in the video 😢 To be completely fair though, this neat little trick comes at the price of limiting those two parameters for the part you're playing, as you don't get the full velocity and key range you'd otherwise have at your disposal. I reckon in most scenarios this wouldn't be an issue necessarily, but hey, if you have that super deeply sampled grand piano patch, you might wanna use up all those 127 possible velocity values without sharing them with any other instrument

  • @ImplosiveCatt

    @ImplosiveCatt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate You might lose some features in free DAWs.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ImplosiveCatt For sure. This one though I feel gives me everything I need right out of the box. If I could choose 1 more feature to add, it would be Ableton's Wavetable synth. Then again, Matt Tytel's Vital synth is basically that, or Serum, and an M1 beta will soon be accessible for free users, so yeah, can't complain

  • @TheeRebel
    @TheeRebel3 жыл бұрын

    genius thnx alot. subbed

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ditritus-gpt Thanks for checking out the video. I'm using the Lite version, if you own a MIDI controller chances are it came bundled with it, you should check! That being said, I cannot help you with FL unfortunately, as I haven't ever used that daw before so I don't have any expertise to share

  • @handsomedean2122
    @handsomedean21222 жыл бұрын

    I am confused on how to do the chain part after the split equally on arrangement view

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Once you do the split, all you need to do is use automation, be it on a clip or a track. Select "Instrument Rack", then "Chain", and choose a value depending on where on the chain you want that part to be, i.e. which Device you want it to trigger. Does that make sense?

  • @skitrowproductionz3286
    @skitrowproductionz3286 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a little confused still. I understand all the usable tracks, but when you record all your different sounds are all in that one clip. How can I separate them so I can have individual tracks in arrangements view

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    All your MIDI information (notes, CCs, etc.) are gonna be on 1 single MIDI track. But they can and will trigger different kinds of sounds, each single one of which has its own, separate processing chain (EQ, compression, what have you). The clearest way to see these chains is in the sessions view, but they're present in the arrangement view as well: just click on the track with your drum/instrument rack, and on the lower side of the screen you'll see all your pads/instruments; click on any of those to reveal its chain, where you can then easily drag & drop any kind of effect

  • @suppohkram
    @suppohkram2 жыл бұрын

    Can you do busses/Return tracks in the instrument rack like there is for the drum rack?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can't I'm afraid. A somehow acceptable workaround is to use your master busses A & B, and to automate the send parameters on the track containing your rack depending on the sounds it's playing back at any given moment. Say you have an organ which needs lots of reverb - automate send A accordingly; then you switch to another sound in the rack, say a lead, which needs no reverb but some delay - automate sends A & B to taste. You're already using automation to change the "chain" parameter, right? Might as well write in some more automation to control your send parameters, too. Not a perfect solution, I know, but it should cover enough use cases.

  • @suppohkram

    @suppohkram

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate I see what you're saying. Thanks for the reply!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@suppohkram Happy to help!

  • @ThreeBeingOne
    @ThreeBeingOne6 күн бұрын

    I have 11 suite, can I use max for live in 12 lite without upgrading?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    6 күн бұрын

    M4L isn't really available in Lite I'm afraid. All we get is the "expression control" device, nothing else and you can't use third party M4L devices you found online either 🥲

  • @morandokun
    @morandokun2 жыл бұрын

    Pls do a part 2 for recording. Thanks

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching. I'll see what I can do!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, ask and you shall receive! Just finished uploading it. Will premiere tomorrow. Here's the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymac0MRydZm2lqQ.html

  • @ninjasharkstudiosandmerch
    @ninjasharkstudiosandmerch2 жыл бұрын

    How about a work-a-round for vst midi instrument channels? :)

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean something like Kontakt, with multiple outputs?

  • @federicosilvero458
    @federicosilvero4582 жыл бұрын

    Wowww

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    hope this helps

  • @creative_expressionproductions
    @creative_expressionproductions2 жыл бұрын

    How would i record midi instruments on one of those 100s of tracks though? Most drum plugins come with in build mixers for their sounds anyway.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment! As far as drum plugins, well, so much the better, right? You get your built in mixer which means you don't have to waste any more tracks in ableton, which is good. As for the first part of your question, I don't quite understand what you mean there, could you elaborate?

  • @creative_expressionproductions

    @creative_expressionproductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate hahah yeah, Dr plugins solve so many problems. I've just had a thought, what if there was multitrack plugin?😱 That would solve so many problems too just like the drum plugin. What I was meaning was how do I go about using all the tracks that the drum tracks carry? I mean the problem with the Ableton 8 track limit is that we can only record and mix 8 separate tracks right? We are wanting to record more.

  • @creative_expressionproductions

    @creative_expressionproductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate come to think of it ...a multitrack plugin would be the answer! Essentially midi intstuments are midi multitrack recorders after all. They record multiple instances of midi information and play back polyphonic sounds...IE multi track sounds for one channel plugin...! Right?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@creative_expressionproductions I see. Well, the downside to the drum track trick is that each one of those tracks has to be associated to just one "sound" and one MIDI note. For instance, the snare on note 38, or the kick on 37. That's ideal for drums, it means that you can have 128 different drum sounds (there being 128 different MIDI notes), and that is per track, so seeing as you have 8 tracks, that's a humongous 128 * 8 = 11024 drum sounds, or I should say tracks, each with its own fader, inserts etc. BUT that doesn't work well with other kinds of instruments where you don't have that "one note = one sound" kind of thing, like say a bass part, where you'll probably have the same sound on all notes. That's when you would have to resort to the second "trick" explained in the video, the one with multiple instruments on one track playing at different times. It's a bit of a compromise, but honestly I think it should cover most mixing scenarios anyway!

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@creative_expressionproductions That would depend on the plugin if I understood you correctly, not so much on Ableton. For instance, the xPand sampler is what we'd call "multitimbral", i.e. it can load more than 1 sound at once, in fact it has 4 slots where you could load 4 completely different ones. But that approach means you're gonna lose the benefit of having those 4 sounds each on its separate "sub-tracks" within 1 track as shown in the second part of the video. It would mean all of those 4 would be on just one track, so you wouldn't have separate faders, mute, solo, inserts, sends, panning. Sure, multitimbral plugins often come with their own internal mixer, but it's definitely a lot less flexibility! I believe the best approach is the 1 plugin - 1 sub-track one, because it allows you to use multiple tracks and only lose 1 in ableton's live track count.

  • @theunboundsound
    @theunboundsound Жыл бұрын

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @marislusis2106
    @marislusis2106 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. where is references on live lite?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    If you mean "preferences", just press "command ," on a Mac. Don't know the shortcut on Windows but shouldn't be that hard to figure out

  • @djdonbentley2141
    @djdonbentley214110 ай бұрын

    I agree with some other peoples thoughts , if someone can't create a decent sounding song using 8 channels or tracks they should pack it up . It don't take much more than 8 anyway.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    10 ай бұрын

    I definitely agree there's a place for minimalism and a "less is more" kind of approach. That being said, I also think that that doesn't necessarily apply always and regardless. Some tracks and maybe even some genres as a whole might require more. Maybe not a ton more necessarily - there's a point of overkill, so to speak - but more nonetheless. Luckily you can still get there with Live lite 😁

  • @jaysonding1735
    @jaysonding17352 жыл бұрын

    Wow didnt know that you can do this

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. And it gets even better with adding audio tracks as well!

  • @soft-llama1530
    @soft-llama1530 Жыл бұрын

    okay this is probably a dumb question because there's is absolutely no info anywhere about it but couldn't I just mess with the code somehow to get more tracks?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    Well listen, me personally, I don't know jack shit about coding, but even if I did, I think what you suggested there raises some serious legality issues. I mean, if you could just mess with the code and remove limitations, why would anybody ever wanna pay for the full version, you know what I mean

  • @soft-llama1530

    @soft-llama1530

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate yeah, I understand that ableton scans its files so I would somehow have to disable that without breaking the applications functionality (I could also only use it offline.) I don't really care about legality issues but anyways there doesn't seem to be a lot of methods to get this to work, and I also lack the certain language program that ableton uses so I guess I will just spend money sometime in the future and upgrade.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@soft-llama1530 Guess that would be the right thing to do. I have a couple more tutorials on how to get actual extra tracks if you wanna check them out, here's one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4WM2LqYgrTQkZM.html

  • @orchid4193
    @orchid4193 Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t get it what u did in instrumental rack 😅idk trying from last September but all things are so frustrating ableton support is trash they blocked me when j asked too much problem said u ask too many question whom am i gonna ask about ableton then the support is blocking 😢i bacame so frustrated at this point i want to leave😣 idk why still trying so many months not a single beat to listen to myself that i made this 😩

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear that. Could you elaborate a bit more on what exactly it is you're having trouble with?

  • @chadshultz3271

    @chadshultz3271

    8 ай бұрын

    No arrow to click on

  • @Erikawanna
    @Erikawanna Жыл бұрын

    I need help. Why aren't there any volumes on my all those tracks?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna need you to be more specific here. Maybe even post a screenshot or two

  • @Erikawanna

    @Erikawanna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate I mean, why all my tracks won't make any sound?

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Erikawanna Well listen, that could be any number of reasons. Have you automated the Chain Selector parameter so that the Device your MIDI notes are meant to trigger is actually active when those notes are playing? What about routing. Is any of your tracks routed to another one that's muted? Sorry for being so generic but it's a little too little information you're providing here my friend

  • @Erikawanna

    @Erikawanna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate thank you so much. It helps a lot. I'm still amateur with this thing.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Erikawanna my pleasure. Got a lot more tutorials on this on my channel, feel free to check them out if you get stuck 👍

  • @benink5690
    @benink56902 жыл бұрын

    When I realized I can't convert audio drum loops into midi I cried. I'll have to buy it

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm. Never tried doing that sort of thing but I'm pretty sure it should be possible, worst case scenario you might have to use a third party plugin but even then I'm pretty sure there has to be a freeware alternative. Don't give up!

  • @benink5690

    @benink5690

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate I'm a musician not an audio engineer. There's a difference. I play instruments and like to just click and add drum loop after I play guitar to a click track etc. Then, after that I want to alter, add/remove, the drum hits afterwards. You can only do that if you can convert the drum loop to midi! Lastly. I'm pretty noob at this stuff. I've played guitar and other instruments for about 30 years but never got into a DAW much. Now I'm finally committed to learning. I am very pc savvy but DAW's bore me at first try. So it'll be a grind. I have played solo gig's doing original music professionally. I would only use a guitar, amp and pedalboard with a looper pedal. I also played bars and weddings with a cover band in the past. Keeping a band is hard and it's even harder to consistently get along with 4/5 other people lol. I'd like to perform live with ableton and record the decades of music I've written... AND I want to do it as easily as possible and NOW! Life is short. I will be buying suite and possibly get the push 2 as well. May have to sell a guitar for it

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benink5690 Ok, I think I have a grasp now of what it is you want to do in terms of drums. You could just import your loop into simpler (available in the lite version as well), slice it up into its single hits using the "slicing" mode, and that's pretty much it, now you have your single slices chromatically assigned to MIDI notes for you to program in. I don't know that getting suite would really change anything for you really, I think the workflow would pretty much be the same?

  • @benink5690

    @benink5690

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNeonSyndicate i really appreciate you taking time to talk! So, anyways I don't think I can do that with lite, but maybe there's a work around? I right clicked and that (slice or convert to midi) wasn't an option like it was in the videos I watched. I'll try to explain. Mind you I am a newb at all of this. Here's the path/flow Record guitar> put drum loop/clip into audio scene & they auto line up to guitar track > that drum track is now an audio wave form > right click and there's no option to slice like videos I watched > I conclude I need the audio to midi function

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benink5690 Ok, gotcha. Don't worry, I've seldom sliced loops and never converted them to midi, so I'm not exactly an expert either. Not trying to convince you to not buy anything here, don't get me wrong. You go ahead and do whatever you think will get you the results you're after! I'm just a sucker for these sorts of things though, like how to work around the limitations of lite software, so I think I'm gonna have a closer look maybe next weekend and actually see if there might be any workarounds that do more or less exactly what you laid out there. I'll keep you posted!

  • @ChaosToOrder777
    @ChaosToOrder777 Жыл бұрын

    Get intro it's only 60 quid

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd have to disagree there. The only real benefit you get is an additional 8 tracks, which brings the total to 16 and that isn't that much of an improvement imho. If you really want to get to a track count such that you won't have to worry about running out you gotta fork out way more than that and get the standard or suite edition.

  • @paulmark992
    @paulmark9929 ай бұрын

    LOl, just upgrade your license if you can, please. It will help the company develop such a great product.

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    9 ай бұрын

    Guess this video isn't for you then. Which is fine! ✌

  • @AIRJAVITUBE
    @AIRJAVITUBE Жыл бұрын

    Great video limitations force you to be creative.-Zae/Mercedi$

  • @TheNeonSyndicate

    @TheNeonSyndicate

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed!

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