Those council members made me excited about being politicans as they shown to me I can do it better

@siirbahcesi49

3 жыл бұрын

@Emy Thomas our borders are violated . not about erdogan. erdogan will be leaving soon. but secular Republic of Turkey will be forever. we try to deal but greece is a spoiled boy.

@johnnywires943

3 жыл бұрын

Well your English is shit just like your politics.You have no chance.

@siirbahcesi49

3 жыл бұрын

@Emy Thomas Erdogan's non-secular actions mean nothing . As I mentioned above , "Erdogan will be leaving soon". Turkey, will return to the policies of the ataturk period.

@siirbahcesi49

3 жыл бұрын

@Emy Thomas We are not sure that Europe really wants peace, as it has fostered terrorism in our southeastern lands for years and has nothing to do with our official borders in the Mediterranean.

@furkanylmaz3170

3 жыл бұрын

@Emy Thomas who pays you to talk this much bla bla

The weird thing is that East Med is nowhere near Europe however Turkey is being expansionist because it wants to dip his feet into sea.

@nehikmetse

3 жыл бұрын

@SilverOrien OK accepted but Greece isn't.

@savvastagalidis509

3 жыл бұрын

@Alt Metin We don't care if you recognize Cyprus, Europe and the whole world have recognized it and will protect it

Eu dont have the rghit to say something to turkey what did they did with super power that taking everything without thinking that all belongs to everybody

I applaud the EU for its debates on Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean affecting Greece. I trust Turkey will humble themselves and cooperate with Greece concerns on its enemy explorations. Keep up the good work at the EU.

Turkey acts only in his international rights. The actions that Turkey take is in his own economic zone. Everybody must see and accept the rights of Turkey.

@didierleonard9936

3 жыл бұрын

yes. go do this in russia waters ... I don t even have to wish you abny luck ...

@Aslan3719

3 жыл бұрын

@@didierleonard9936 whit Russia Turkey has an agreement. And this is also dün by international rights. And whit several other countries at the black see. People and Grieks must know that Turkey is not after any illegal action that not comes to his rights.!

MOST OF TURKISH PEOPLE DOESNT LIKE ERDOGAN ANYWAY BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECT WHAT IT BELONGS TO COUNTRY WE ARE ALL ONE.

@enesv2169

3 жыл бұрын

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

@johnnywires943

3 жыл бұрын

Greek islands do not belong to you.End of story.

@akagishigeru9

3 жыл бұрын

so you admit that you have been manipulated... He plays the domestic politics like the piano...

@christsagkas8385

3 жыл бұрын

Turkey, in an effort to gain new capitals, attempted to drill for oil in non-defined waters and that resulted in further economic damage for them. Lira slipped more, the international economic institutes devaluated the turkish banks even more. Geopolitical isolation grew. Good work. Keep protecting

@johnnywires943

3 жыл бұрын

@@christsagkas8385 Re ese me ta kala sou?Non defined waters my arse.Those waters are fully Greek and Cypriot as defind by international laws including the Lausanne Treaty.Fovase na tou to pis re.

Why is it that school debates are more civilised, on topic and clear than ones organized by world powers ? The topic might be easier but my god don't lie and twist words.

De escalation lol, France sending warships America sending warships, Greece sending warships, Europe threatens Turkey and you say de escalation, bunch of hypocrites

@spoonm1237

3 жыл бұрын

They sent warships because Turkey has sent there warships in Greek waters you idiot.

@SentisSlang

3 жыл бұрын

True hahaha those EU hypocRATS

@SentisSlang

3 жыл бұрын

@Alex P dumbass USA will have Vietnam fate. Dont mix turks with arabs.. read some history.

@SentisSlang

3 жыл бұрын

@Alex P no respect show how pathetic u r. I wont offend christianity coz i believe in jesus and many parts of the bible. The bible is very similar to the qoran, just saying mybe u dont know coz u r grown in the west and never read the book u offend. When u grow u will learn the real world. But then it may be to late.

@didierleonard9936

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris Serafim and btw Turkey fluying in Greek aerial space thousand time before. Thanks greece cool head. soem other countries had already turn Turkey to ash for eve,n less provocation.

What i understood is all the European tax payers pay Turkey SO turkey can use that money to buy weapons from Germany and Spain . Some of those weapons are taken to Cyprus and yous talking about valeus??? EU has no valeus .. Business for some countries is more important than valeus

@andypanteli7147

3 жыл бұрын

@Han Solo Greece gets money but pays it back Don't worry the world is waking up only the Germans and the Spanish are still sleeping

@nehikmetse

3 жыл бұрын

What money to Turkey as a EU citizen the only time that I needed to pay additional tax is for that shit in Greece.

@andypanteli7147

3 жыл бұрын

@@nehikmetse Greece borrows the money Eshek kafal. !!Doesn't take it like Turkey does and keeps asking for more get your FUCTS right before shit comes out of your mouth and talk out of your arse

As a Greek I really hope that soon Greece and Turkey will enjoy a good neighborhoodly relationship again, that we will cooperate in trade and tourism and I really hope that both our nations will find gas and oil reserves each in their own territory and enjoy wealth and prosperity. That both will serve for the security and stability of eastern Mediterranean. But unfortunately , the Turkish regime and it's propaganda leads us to a path of war. I hope I am wrong but I dont see any other solution while Erdogan continues to rule..

@bansheee1

3 жыл бұрын

duude i am turkish and do not like erdogan not one bit. However this issue predates erdogan and this greece map make us feel mistreated.Resources muust be shared justly.I trush in european union justice and even now germany started to advice greece about possible solutions which i think will be acceptable by turkey.If greece does continue to insist on those claims i am afraif even erdogans rule we will have the same problems.And actual military conflict would be disastorous. These greek islands and turkey seaside lives by tourism

@SpartanLeonidas1821

3 жыл бұрын

bandd1 Well you must understand, that "Mavi Vatan" is delusional & not recognized by anyone. Greece already knows that Kastellorizo demand is Maximilistic, they just countered with it to counter the delusional Libya deal. Thats just how Politics & Geostrategical strategies work..😇🤷🏻‍♂️

@bansheee1

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpartanLeonidas1821 you are absolutely correct.Both of the sides are like opening the barganing in high. Moreover erdogan is loosing popularity rapidly amongh young people he needs to create an enemy, just like all totalitarian regimes.Hope we can get over him smoothly without actually getting into a military conflict or loosing entire mediterranian rights

@SpartanLeonidas1821

3 жыл бұрын

petrcek petrcek Are you taking with me? Because Greece is in the Right according to internarional Law. They will Lose Kastellorizo Case but win Aegean Case. Turkey will never accept that however..

@emrecck

3 жыл бұрын

Andreas Pelekas Well, I hope that as well, too, brother... However, in order to achieve that we need a Atatürk in Turkey and Venizelos in Greece... The people are brothers but the politicians are a**holes :/ 🇹🇷❤️💙🇬🇷

Germany stands with Turkey, not with European members Greece and Cyprus. That s not EU.. That s a parody..personal interests and external policies rule the EU.. Not the interests of European citizens, of the countries members..

Turkey 🇹🇷 is the right to research ⛽️ gas

@NUTNUTPRODUCTIONS

3 жыл бұрын

Yadullah Gholami yes 100%

@dmtd2388

3 жыл бұрын

Turkey will get invaded from Greece and Cyprus it will go down

@_d--

3 жыл бұрын

For alll the normal people coming on the comment section beware these turkish commenters are just paid trolls. for more info check wiki AK trolls en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Trolls

@KevinFlynn_

3 жыл бұрын

No you don't

@dmtd2388

3 жыл бұрын

@recep ufuk zengin you will get Crushed by Cyprus and Greece soon and invaded

lets not forget we are talking about a country which operates under Dynasty of Erdoghan, there is no Democracy and there is no free speech

Greece and France wants war with Turkiye, are you going to join them? Oh please stay away from civil society in Turkiye, we don't need your help. What money invested in refugees, Turkiye spent 40 billion the EU only paid 4.5 billion of what it promised. Turks don't want any part of EU, no wonder UK left.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler you know nothing. Cyprus was on loan to the UK who had no right to give it away to Greece, Turkiye will take Cyprus back as it is entitled. In regards to the islands that belong to Turkiye which Greece is illegally occupying, Italy had no right to allow Greeks onto those islands it is not theirs to give away; Turkiye will take those islands back also. Greece is also occupying Trakya which belong to Turkiye, Turks will take Trakya back also. In regards to Syria, firstly Turkiye owns upto Manbij and will take its lands back. Abdul Hamid purchased those lands personally therefore those kands belong to Turkiye, Turkiye holds the titles to them. Turkiye and the UK were to settle on those lands, Turkiye said Turkmen, Kurds and Arabs can live there acting as a buffer. Assads father allowed the PKK terrorists to train and thrive there killing Kurds and Turks inside Turkiye. From 1990s Greece went to Syria met with these terrorists and supported them, other countries were also involved such as majority of the current EU countries and more recently Russia and the US. These countries moved these terrorists on Turkiyes Iands and tried to form a terrorist corridor. What they didn't realise was Turkiye also had signed the Adana Agreement with Syria which allow Turkiye to conduct military operations anywhere in Syria. Additionally international laws allow Turkiye to conduct military operations in Syria due to security threat to Turkiye. In short Turkiye is legally in Syria killing PKK terrorists made up of majority Armenians and others.

@annoyingbstard9407

3 жыл бұрын

mick babat I dont think you need to worry too much about a war with France.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler all your bla bla bla about the islands, article this article that is dead in the water. Nobody has the right to take what does not belong to them. Who the hell is EU, UN, US, Israel for that matter to decide what happens with ones property. The legal rights applied to their own property has not been applied to Turkiyes property, those unjust matters will be corrected, period.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@@annoyingbstard9407 who said I was worried?

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler you know nothing, you are stuck in the past, get over it, its a new world. Additionally you are looking at Turkiye and think thats it, look up Turan countries expand that tiny mind of yours. There are presently 7 Turan countries united, one observer country, work it out.

Not one of these wafflers has ever achieved anything beyond filling in their expense claim forms every month. Pathetic.

France is janus-faced for supporting Greece in Meis island situtation between Greece and Turkey. France has the same situation at britian islands Jersey and Guernsey at the shoreline of northern France. They are losing their colonials at the northern africa like Algiers, Tunusia. Those countries wanna be under protection of Turkey and haven't forgotten genocide in Algeria, Tunusia, Gabon, Chad, Ruanda etc. That is why France throws Greece against Turkey and wants to keep Turkey away from northern africa. Turkey has the longest shoreline at the eastern mediterranean, you are not able to detain Turkey in very small exclusive economic zone, there is no law which gives the islands more economic zone than the mainlands. Greece has to explain the armed islands that shouldn't be armed according to lausanne treaty. Do not be ignorant read lausanne treaty, eveything is clear in it or resign your position. We strongly recommend that Greek brothers should not listen some EU countries and remember what happened to Greece in early 20th century at Western Anatolia after France and Italy retreated. Do not get yourselves used by EU countries. They are using you for their imaginary benefits..

@UltimateGuitarWorkout35

3 жыл бұрын

@@brunofernandez3117 Muslim brotherhood? Do you really believe that? It is really funny. Brotherhood does not exist in Muslim world. We just have good relations with Qatar and Pakistan. Rest of them are against Turkey beacuse we are secular.

@UltimateGuitarWorkout35

3 жыл бұрын

@@brunofernandez3117 You believe MB exists but Egypt signes EZZ agreement with Greece putschist Hafter allies with Greece, France, Israel, Lebanon etc. Isis burned two Turkish soldiers alive at 22th December 2016 and Isis leader Ebu Bekir el-Bağdadi's identity was emerged that he was israeli from Mossad (think why they never attacked Israel). Keep ur ignorance inside of you, do not daub here or read more real sources. Colonialism is ending up under the leadership of Turkey believe or not. Most of Turks hate Erdoğan but Everybody stands as one behind him in this conflict. Muslim folks(not brotherhood you meant) support Turkey not their puppet governments.

LOVE TURKY FROM INDONESIA

EU should stop bullying Turkey. Turkey will never accept the "Sevilla map" which is against equity. Also, Greece rejects international court's jurisdiction on these topics. Greece doesn't want real negotiations.

@morganme8934

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck off

@didierleonard9936

3 жыл бұрын

there is no equity in the world. you need land ? go ask Russia : it s so big and unfair.

@pokerbrat302

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Turkey needed to choose their allies better if they wanted better treaties during WW1 and WW2... Oh wait, where were you in WW2 again?? 🤣🤣

I am Somalian and Somali people know more than one any else the meaning and what all out war or civil war are all about. I think Turki and Greece would be able to prosper and achieve for long lasting stability. They can live to gather peacefully and share fairly the nature resource they have in hand. They are quite potential to attract millions of tourists in every year. They are also capable to make trade and investment in their both tapped and untapped resources. Both of them them are NATO members and they can develop especial security defence mechanism. It is better that they look after their own interest and ignore those countries such who are pushing them into war. The other important issue is that the European Union countries will not escape or will not be safe from the consequences and the impact of war, if all out war breaks out in the miditerrian sea or in between Turki and Greece. Definitely, socio-security and economic condition of some of the European border areas will deteriorate. Terrorism, organise crime and mass immigration are few of the examples.

@user-th5fh1zd7m

3 жыл бұрын

Aktroller, Türkiye'de Adalet ve Kalkınma Partisi tarafından yönetildiği iddia edilen devlet destekli anonim internet siyasi yorumcuları ve trolleridir. 2015 yılında Aktrollerin doğrudan devlet tarafından finanse edildiği, devlet destekli internet trollerinin çoğunun 20-25 yaşları arasında olduğu doğrulandı.[kaynak belirtilmeli] Adalet ve Kalkınma Partisi'nin gençlik kollarının (AK Gençlik) bu web tugayına başkanlık etmekle yükümlü olduğu varsayılmaktadır.[1]

I am disappointed with the European parliamentarians don't only support their member states such like Greece and Cyprus for that matter but surprisingly some members are using provocative language such us Ottaman empire. The Europeans should understand that in order to have a fair dialogue how can use terms like despot, dictator, Europeans should understand that Turkey is a civilized nation and the mood in this parliament is like taking side with Greece and Cyprus blindly cynical rhetorical against Turkey does not help. Guys you should be courageous whom do you blame for the situation in Libya. You distracted Libya and yet you kept on watching as killing, maiming, raping and many other human rights violations taking place. Guys you are unreasonable. You may have your own values but you fail to understand that the Turkish people equally have their own values. Common Greece should stop violation of international law. What a unrealistic debate is underway.

@TTTupload

3 жыл бұрын

yes their real face.

@Rocky-rq6mb

3 жыл бұрын

Turkey: give me you're eez Europe:no Turkey:😭😭😭😭😭

@Lalakis

3 жыл бұрын

"You may have your own values but you fail to understand that the Turkish people equally have their own values" Sure. And turkish values are not compatible with european values. Simple. That is what the speakers said . They agree with you. And if Greece is violating international law, you just bring them to international court and you win! Good idea no ?

Here is the role of Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean, the Eastern Mediterranaen has an inverted C-Shaped structure and the coastline distribution of the countries and peoples in this corner is given below: 1) Turkey (from Datca to Samandag)= 1800 km, 2) Egypt (from Rafah to Mersa Matruh)= 800 km, 3) Island of Cyprus: totally= 600 km [330km (Cypriot Turks) - 270km (Cypriot Greeks)] , 4) Lebonan= 230 km, 5) Islands belongs to Greece (East Med side of these islands: a-Rhodes 87 km, b-Kashot 20 km, c-Karpathos 15 km, d-Crete 30 km and e-Kastellerizo 8 km)= 160 km 6) Israel= 190 km, 7) Syria= 170 km, 8) Palestine= 40 km. Conclusion: Now do you understand: Turkey has a huge role.

@JimmyTheGreek2000

3 жыл бұрын

Your math is wrong, You include the km of the Black Sea, what if you subtract those km ? Also Greece has 15,000 km of coastline and Turkey only 7,000 km coastline in the MED SEA However, the total km do NOT play any role in the division (allocation) of the maritime zones ! Only the distance between countries and between islands plays a role (Up to 200 miles (not Km!) Since Islands have EEZ and so that is what counts.

@seckinfiliz8682

3 жыл бұрын

You didn't read carefully what I wrote! Please read carefully. Here, there is only the Eastern Mediterranean. Eastern Mediterranean coastline. I did not include the Black sea and Aegean sea. In this zone, Greece's coastline length is 160 km (there are 5 islands here) and Turkey's coastline length is 1800 km.

***If you're from north Cyprus ( TURKISH SIDE ) you ARE not in EU****. SO WHICH CYPRUS YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT? THIS COUNCIL CLEARLY ADMITS THAT THERE IS NO JUST CYPRUS ITS SOUTH ( GREEK ) EU AND NORTH (TURKISH). NON EU. THEREFORE TURKEY HAS RIGHT TO CLAIM THAT TERRITORY RIGHT? ALSO IN EU EYES UNITED KINGDOM EVEN ENEMY THESE DAYS BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT.

Türkiye Avrupa Birliği ne girsin lütfen please Heyet Gönderirsiniz

Germany should be tough on Turkey and Russia. Our EU and democratic values are far more important than our economic interests in the region.

@sogra8264

3 жыл бұрын

The EU have no democratic values. The EU is AN unelected dictatorship.

Greeks and Turks and brothers and sisters. Islands are heavily depending on Turkish economy. (For instance, some islands have military bases but no pharmacy :) Nations are just going through a timeline with their politicians. I would think sanctions would worsen the current state and even bolster Islamist rhetoric in Turkey. I also believe that, unless you help to solve Aegean and Cyprus issues, it is really hard to isolate the Eastern Mediterranean problem and solve it individually.

@mit-masterofinternettechno8138

3 жыл бұрын

@Oistros Flyer 'Vicious envy'? I don't think it is envy at all. Instead of blanket support, why don't you try to understand what Turkey is saying? I bet you have no idea how 85 Million of people think. This type of antagonizing approach will help neither Turkish-Greek brotherhood nor the peace in the region. You start looking at the fact of Cyprus and Aegean Sea, and then come back here and comment please.

@mit-masterofinternettechno8138

3 жыл бұрын

@Oistros Flyer I am not an authority. The only thing I can say here that sharing is fair since 1940's and Turkey was silent so far b/c of EU dreams. Look at the this map. I agree that tone might be different but any nation, any ruler will complain. If this is not an insult, what is it? twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1300438680771768320/photo/1

@Lalakis

3 жыл бұрын

@@mit-masterofinternettechno8138 Then go to ICJ. According to how much of an insult it is you will win hands down.

@mit-masterofinternettechno8138

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lalakis whatever

@Lalakis

3 жыл бұрын

@@mit-masterofinternettechno8138 Great comeback dude. Whatever.

Interpreting especially live one is really difficult but as a fluent speaker of five European languages I noticed that she omits vital words that alter the meaning of the statements of speakers.

@__ant__24

3 жыл бұрын

example please?

@GR-sc3ph

3 жыл бұрын

anthony ant eg when Cypriot speaker said “ criminal acts “ she mentioned only acts in English which that can mean any acts but he was specific about the criminal and aggressive actions

@GR-sc3ph

3 жыл бұрын

SilverOrien it is pretty hard to do live interpretation ..., should not criticise but there were a lot of examples that I felt they were slightly off the main theme

@GR-sc3ph

3 жыл бұрын

Oistros Flyer I feel ideally they should have several candidates as interpreters. It is a very hard job to do live interpretation of several languages .

In these meeting obviously not only anti turkey but also anti Islam some of them mention about Islam but they know that is irrelevant topic

@__ant__24

3 жыл бұрын

It's Erdogan who is mentioning all this BS in his propaganda to raise his people nationalism. Erdogan is preparing his people for war. We cannot just sit back and let you have a walk in East Med. We are defending our rights. Your rights can also be defended in court, so stop the war rhetoric and go to court.

@Jj-zy4xe

3 жыл бұрын

@@__ant__24 nevermind turkey, continue your broscience lockdown instead! It's good for the economy!

@ABZTRONICTUTORIALTo

3 жыл бұрын

@@__ant__24 beautiful name ANTHONY ANT Anthony was derive from the word ANT it refer to small insect also with 2 ANT-enna in their head use to receive the messages from another ANT. So maybe Ur ANTenna is broken u could not be able to receive the messages from debate or maybe Ur signal frequency just one band frequency just to heard ERDOGAN. SO I suggest to you go to antenna repair shop bcos Ur ANTenna in trouble rather I suggest u to review the debate.

@looongnightyeah5661

3 жыл бұрын

No the real problem is political islam and not the religion.Islamofascism is the threat for west world.

@looongnightyeah5661

3 жыл бұрын

@MrBurdekin Erdogan sended thousand of people in evros to destabilize greece and blackmail eu.What do you mean slaughtered, by whom?

Let's not forget that we speak about International waters that two neighboring states claim as part of their Economic Zone. According to the UN Laws, only after a bilateral agreement between neighbors or a decision of the UN Court can these waters belong to one state or another. Turkey, by sending research ships escorted by warships to these waters is violating International Law and Europe must react since the Mediterranean has an important geostrategic value for Europe.

@cenicenka7895

3 жыл бұрын

Papandrakis shut f up

@mariosathens1

3 жыл бұрын

@Inevitable Truth you should get your facts rights. The UN is made by about 190 member states and the UN Law of the Seas was ratified by about 167. The rest didn't ratify it because they don't have shores. For what reason Switzerland should ratify a Law about Seas when it doesn't have shores.. Simple as that. Only 2-3 countries didn't ratify it. And don't forget that Turkey used the UN Law (without ratified it) to its maritime agreements with Bulgaria, Romania, Russia, Georgia. In simple words, Turkey uses already this Law with other countries but when it comes to Greece it denies it..

@mariosathens1

3 жыл бұрын

@Emre Parlak on one hand you are so sure that Turkey will win the case in the UN Court and on the other hand Turkey does whatever it cans to avoid it. I guess you understand that it is a little bit weird... do you? ""if you have enough power come on"??? how old are you 15? Bully No war is needed since there are other ways to cause "damages" to Turkey... Just remember what happened with the American pastor's case. A few tweets by Trump were enough to send the TR Lira to the Abyss. 20 % losses within 2 weeks.. Imagine what will happen with the rumors of EU sanctions vs Turkey especially now that Turkey is so fragile. So stop bullying and sit to negotiate.

@mariosathens1

3 жыл бұрын

​@Stern Daler kardas, i read your comment carefully and I understand your point. But the problem is not the territorial waters. The real problem is who will gain sovereign rights (economic rights) over the International waters between Greece and Turkey. There are international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean and Intern waters in the Aegean Sea. In the current situation, there is no chance for a bilateral agreement between Turkey and Greece because both Governments have to take some steps back and if they do it they will be accused of Treason in both countries. This is why I insist that only UN Court can solve this dispute since the Governments and citizens will be forced to accept its decision. In my personal opinion, both countries make maximalist claims. None UN Court will give to every Greek island 100% influence over the international waters as Greece desires and of course, none UN Court will allow Turkey to have the seas around the Greek islands in the Aegean Sea as Turkey desires (Mavi Vatan => Greece will own the islands but Turkey the seas around the islands).

@yns222

3 жыл бұрын

Just send the refugees. Open the boarders, why bother, everybody is free to move anywhere they like. You destabilized the region by supporting the PKK for centuries, you deal with the fallout now... They have a right to asylum seeking wherever they want. Its your own law! They want europe. Thats what turkey can do and many more things... Greece constantly claiming aegean to be their sea, because of their islands. 99% wouldnt hold up as islands, they are rocks and islets. 99% of island greeks hate mainland greeks! Aegean is special waters according to the law of the sea. Any dispute must be settled on an equitable and fair basis according to that law. No cutoff effects to the sea and land always dominates the sea over islands... But greece wants it all, claiming islands have the same rights as land. No they dont, never have and never will, especially in this aegean and mediterranean sea. Turkey making seismic research 5km off its own shore is nothing illegal. Whats illegal is, greece threatening to arrest those people on these civilian ships. Thats the only reason the turkish military is there: to protect the ship and to avoid greece doing something very stupid. So come down from your ivory towers greeks. Aegean is not yours alone, your not an archipelago nation, megali idea is history, enosis is history... show some respect to your neighbor. This is the way for peace and prosperity and not threatening turkey with war. And i am not even talking about the lausanne peace treaty which greece broke several times. Turkey has the right to build up huge armies on their own land, but greece has no right to arm their islands. According to that, islands have only 3nm territorial waters and thats it. No more no matter what ominous law of the sea there is. Thats part of the peace treaty, Turkey never broke the peace but greece did many times. Just right now, greece is doing some military exercise at one of the islands again breaking the peace treaty.

Title should be anti turkey debate at the E.U

@ahmedhuseyingurdal8510

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly nobody gives any shit about Mediterranean or Greece... real problem is existence of Turkey and its being stronger day by day

@didierleonard9936

3 жыл бұрын

when sonemone enter your border without permission and with weopon, it s sure your family then turn anti you.

Two of the Counsils said Turkey is a Assian State if so what is the role of EU in Medeterenian sea %80 of Turkish land faces Medeterenian sea waters only some of the Greek Islands faces west Medeterian waters (%1.7) according to the international sea law no island can claim waters on the sea except the border line wich is 3 sea miles from the island isn't this a broblem between Meadle Eastren an Assian States in don't understand it is like Cuba claiming %80 of Atlantic Ocean what will USA say or do about that by the way how come Cyprus is a European state how come Israel enters in European championships like Euro cup and Champions league end yet Turkey has a land on European Continent One of the Consils talk about Democrasy and human rights LOL as we (EU) should't we respected Republic of Turkish borders I know we all hate dictator Erdogan but this issue is not about Erdogan i don't understand 🤔🤔🤔

@johnnywires943

3 жыл бұрын

Instead of trying to write all of that in bad English,all you had to do is see what the international law says about these situations.Its part of the EU constitution now.

Turkey don’t play euro lottery, like Greece, they have their own 😄

Turkey 🇹🇷🇹🇷

Great Turkey

EU language looks like turkey must move a Russia and China side and that is good for Russia you guys you sleeping you need to wake up this is unbelievable and unacceptable the way you treated turkey is like you saying turkey must be our enemy and that is not good for you is good for rassia

@__ant__24

3 жыл бұрын

You are unacceptable. Threatening anyone to pay the price if we stand in your way? How much BS we will hear from your dictator? Kastelorizo is Greek and EEZ is international law. If you want to change it, go to court and shut up with this drama. Erdogan has destroyed your economy while building palaces for his family and shady oil business with his son in law. Now he wants to start a war. You are unacceptable.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@iwonnatube Turkiye is sticking to international law and submitted its EEZ map to the UN and the legal bodies. The EU wants Turkiye to have no access to the EEZ, legally Turkiye has the longest border in the EEZ, the EU is threatening Turkiye and that is unacceptable.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@@__ant__24 islands don't have EEZ, if thry dud France will not have accepted the state if the isllands with the UK, or Greece will not have accepted the state of the islands with Italy. So please ho yo legal and come back with your non orders. The reason Greece us not taking it up legallyvus it knows it doesn't have a leg to stand on instead it is bullshitting with the backing of EU ti see if it can get away with stealing mire territory from Turkiye.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@Bertrand Marion Putin us coming to Turkiye tomorrow. You know nothing about geography. 🤣🤣🤣

@__ant__24

3 жыл бұрын

@@aysenaisa6207 explain how we don't want to go to court? Check the date. www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-turkey-hague-idUSKBN1YX08M

Hello from Turkey 👋 Romantic European Parliement. Its hard to be a member of World sometimes. Don’t scare live in peace...

Stop the customs union agreemente eith Turkey...Here and Now

I cant wrap my head around, If EUs message to Greece is unconditional. How EU can be a honest mediator in this case. You cant bring justice if judge is looking at his own case on his own bench. I don't see peaceful outcome if EU already knows the verdict. This is nothing more than to frame Turkey as aggressor . Now I understand why Turkey is outraged at Greece and EU. Turkey is 100% right. I don't understand why EU wants to start WWIII.

@paulniotis6755

3 жыл бұрын

Lol. A dollar now goes for 7.5 liras. After the sanctions and when TL continues to lose value, the only war you'll see will be in the grocery markets by the average turkish killing his neighbour for a kilo of onions.

@MARINVIEW

3 жыл бұрын

Paul Niotis Is your wish ., Turks are one of toughest people in the world in hard times they will unite like no other people.

@furkanylmaz3170

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your honest comment and evaluation of the main points of the problem. I wonder how these experts, politicians having biased perspective. There is propaganda and eurocentrism all around. What would you expect to come up in this environment? Turkey is going to stay firm unless there is open fair and honest discussions.

@paulniotis6755

3 жыл бұрын

@@MARINVIEW Toughest? You ppl are sending Syrian ISIS proxies to fight in Libya since you're too afraid to go there yourselves. After the Russians dropped a single bomb sending 33 soldiers to meet their 72 virgins (that's a lot of virgins btw), you almost had a revolution against Erdolf. That's tough. :D

@MARINVIEW

3 жыл бұрын

@@furkanylmaz3170 Nowadays stupidity among the politicians is considered talent.

Never expectation from justice fromnl europ for muslim poeple (turkey)

What is the role of Turkey at Balkan forums? The Greece role?

@pirategamers4082

3 жыл бұрын

Nice Turkish surname. :)

Borell is clearly distortioning the terms of Laussane 1923 and Paris 1947 Treatments... everything is very clear written...

Some people don't understand there are laws but anyways i don't think mama Germany will let anything bad happen to Turkey

1:10:08 it s so good to see some youth coming in to politics, what he said represents 99% of all europeans, we are tired of them we dont want them here

Russia, US, UAE,, Saudi went into the sane waters what is at stake in regards to them, what hypocrites. Bitch Turkiye dont have an issue living together with 78 different nationalities in Turkiye, god, sticking your noses in Turkiyes business. A bunch of idiots as I said. What are you doing in Syria and Libya? Erdogan is working hard to get Turkiye its legal rights in the EEZ, Greece is expansionist. Why should Turkiye take in refugees, you take them in.

I wonder If Turkey engaging in drilling activities or seismic searches???? What is this and what a knowledge of these alleged politicians. Read some it helps...

The EU clowns

Instead of talking about actual facts, on migration, and the cause of the EastMed confilict in an unbiased way, it is a generalization on "Empires Coming Back." The EU has a population of 450 million and has taken only a small fraction of the refugees that Turkey has taken. Credit should be given when credit is due. There are two main issues with the EastMed 1) The major controversy is over the Meis Island what the Greeks call Kastellorizo island about 10km2 in size, and is 580km away from the Greek mainland, but 2km from Turkey. Greece is claiming over 40,000 square kilometers of Eastmed Economic Zone, basically landlocking Turkey, even though Turkey has the largest coast in the East Mediterranean. 2) The issue on the status of Northen Cyprus. When EU accepted Greek Cyprus they never wanted to deal with the other side and instead, used the tactic of constant delay claim all rights of the population and unrecognize the Turks. The EU has used the tactic of bureaucracy, which has resulted in the death of anykind of achievement.This can be interpreted in many ways, but one wonders if they were Christian the EU might act differently.

Greece is in Turkish waters, we condemn you. EU is threatening Turkiye, no more dialogue with pig headed EU members. Doors are closed, take it up with UN for a legal action if you have complaints. You have no values when it comes to Turks, stop fooling yourselves and pretending in front of cameras, people can see through your bullsjit.

Title of this video should change to EU bashing, if this call a debate, high school debate show more mature

EU siding with their member state rather than standing with an unbiased approach.

@mandagor

3 жыл бұрын

Firts you threat a member state with war(casus Belli) and then ask for neutrality? Absurd...

@didierleonard9936

3 жыл бұрын

@@mandagor You crossed into EU border with war navies and you want what more ? a kiss ?

Let's go imperial Euro never admited the atrocities they played for so long and genocide of human life all around the world

Prove that Turkiyevis violating laws else stop bullshitting. Turkiye always said it wants dialogue so why did you choose to sick Greece and France against Turkiye. Move beyond legally. Breach if border rights, what the hell, Cyprus belonged to Turkiye, the UK handed it over to Greece as did Italy hand over Turkiyes islands to Greece, illegally and you have the hide to talk about territory, how do you live with yourselves.

Besides sanctions EU needs to keep up and support positive dialogue. Please everyone acknowledge that Turkey can not fully uphold minority human rights. That would mean creation of independent Kurdish state.Hence the need to pass stronger measures against this now totalitarian state. After stopping its unilateral action Turkey could make a good start by acknowledging Armenian, Greek and Bulgarian genocide. It will get worst for a foreseeable future. Are we ready for the coming emigration waves?

@vesislavdyulgerov4005

3 жыл бұрын

Ayni Zeliha Koylu Absolutely, Carnegie endowment and lot more. But don’t believe them there is a lot of evidence. For example look up the destroyed churches matching stories of people who survived the massacre. Usually folks were hiding in churches believing will be saved. They were slaughtered inside the churches. There’s a book actually of American Armenian who made pictures of half ruined churches still standing in Eastern Anatolia in the 60s. Was told those were bulldozed? There is a few of them still in Bulgaria too. Greece debacle in Asia Minor are also well documented. And there’s pic a lot of them. Pic of Mountain of sculls literally, hundreds of raped women tragically orphaned children and story’s of hardships that are passed from generation to generation. So believe at least in one thing hatred creates hatred and history shows tyrants use religion for justification of the “right cause”. Maybe modern Turkey thinks this is Ottoman past and we don’t care? I don’t know but acceptance of the fact and formal apology would be civilised step for better future.

So you cant stand against Russia China Us but you attack Turkiye. We don't want to join EU, stay away from Turks, we don't want to associate with disgusting non humans. EU is the despot, EU is threatening Turkiye, sicking Greece and France, arming islands and you accuse Turkiye of not being fair. We refuse to buy from EU, we Turks will boycott every EU items

CLASS DISMISSED. YOU ONLY WANT TO TALK WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. NOT THE FACTS. YOU GUYS BEEN BAD BOYS ALL ZERO. GO HOME

We are in 2020 and they can't translate correct the speeches.

@kaganayhan8437

3 жыл бұрын

We are in 2020 and you can't even write english, my friend... Just joking 😂

Greece and France are the aggressors, why don't you address their behaviour. Turkiye is not part of EU so it does not have to abide by your requests. Turkiye only wants what it is legally entitled to, you keep pushing us Turks, any further rude and unjust behaviour from EU we Turks will boycott every item from EU countries. It is upto UN to resolve legal matters related to Turkiye, EU can just discuss what it must do, so outside of what you need to do refrain from pointing fingers at Turkiye and taking sides with Greece and France. What you need to do is be just in your decision. It is unacceptable how Greece and France threatened Turkiye so shut up with your fake accusations you are biassed. Let Greece and France take care of the migrants, you didn't even pay what you promised to Turkiye, you consistently lied to Turkiye, we Turks don't want a relationship with you, shove your EU, you are a bunch of fake biassed bunch of idiots.

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

@Alex P come get your medicine

Eu Crooks

@GENTLEMAN.Y

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler gray wolf has been dead for a while. from now on we are part of the T.S.K.

@GENTLEMAN.Y

3 жыл бұрын

@Xeno Blast bin laden worked for the cia, just like your terrorist group pkk or pyd, so you are actually a colleague of bin laden, pretending to be a kurd but in fact you are an ärmenieer out for revenge. Turks haters

That gas from some underground pockets canot pay the bills for a military hot war in Mediterana.So something else is the real prize.I would say they are interested in Libyan oil which is real on the ground.Gas is just peanuts

@MyMikey88

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler France did not see behind Erdogan some countries outside of NATO?how fast did he got the S400missiles just snaped the fingers and hooplaaa .\I think we are looking at a very well pre-programmed scenario but I dont understand whats the bigger picture here.For sure looks like a confrontation between West and East by proxies.Erdogan is a proxy and so is Macron.France is a Rotschild country and Turkey is about to join BRICS group and therefore to quit NATOand become a puppet republic.This will generate a big splash/tsunami in the Mediterana and around Europe as well.Not to mention Greece has always said they dont like euro and Brussels because they were bankrupted on purpose.So they will unite with USA and Italy for sure and Merkel can get all the refugees she wants and all the russian gas she wants but there will be no more euro-zone if a single bullet will be fired in Mediterana .So if somebody is after Erdogan's head they forgot to see the bigger picture here-Eurozone will implode and NATO will shrink//the big winner will be Putin pulling the strings behind the scene,he's got a new puppet republic to "protect" by selling them rusky weapons

@vesislavdyulgerov4005

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, just watch Macron going crazy over Libya! Good point.

After watching this EU debate I realized that it is just a monologue! This EU meeting proves only one thing: EU is powerless in the East Mediterranean and cannot accomplish anything without the Turks! The EU must be friendly with Turkey and recognize that Greece has nothing do do in East Med! They have no continental shelf extending towards Eastern Med. Greece only has islands and according to the international law Turkey's hand is much more stronger and they will NOT let go off their rights at all. We need the geopolitical advantage Turkey offers to Europe. Let's drop the brat (Greece) and start constructing a geopolitical win-win relationship with Turkey. If we exercise economic sanctions against Turkey, Turks will respond by closing their land, sea and air borders to the EU trade. We have as much to lose from this. Turks will not bow before our sanctions. Turkey can see the EU economic sanctions as 'clear and present danger' against their well-being and close the dardanelles and bosphorus straits to strangle the EU even more. Stop supporting Greece and force Greece to talk to the Turks about solving their problems in the Aegean first. Once it is solved both Turkey and Greece can explore and exploit the rich gas reserves under the Aegean Sea which will help both sides economically. This way Greece can pay what she owes to Germany as well. This is my humble opinion.

@jongreen457

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler So, Is Turkey bullying the Eu or is the EU bullying Turkey! EU is trying but it seems like it is not working. Some in the EU (Hungary, Germany) and outside the EU (Russia, USA, UK) are seeing what Greece is doing. Stern, If the UK claimed all the islands she owned as part of her continental shelf they would end up claiming all the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean (LoL)! Oops, We are not as stupid as the Greek politicians, we will not claim all the oceans just because we have some islands there. Greek islands near the Asian continent (Asia Minor-Turkey) UAE and KSA are NOT in the East Med! Who cares what Italians or Jordanians think? They are afraid of Turkey's power in the Middle East. They prefer a weaker Turkey. I don't see Turkey trying to bring Ottoman Empire back. You are not reading geopolitics right. You must be a Greek or someone hired to blow the trumpet for them but Turks don't hire trumpeters like yourself. They don't have all those countries you listed in your comment behind them. Turks are in the field by themselves with their own power and they say: 'contra mundum'. Besides, non of those countries you listed care for Greece at all. They aren't supporting Greece because Greece is right! They are supporting Greece because they all realized that Turkey is back in the world scene and it is a major player.

@jongreen457

3 жыл бұрын

www.hoover.org/research/mr-magoo-turkey?fbclid=IwAR0CgLguspEt8X5bBrgnNzsYDFkPWcc7L99wiafQYcqNp6wVne685sH7yE0

@jongreen457

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler Geopolitics is my area of expertise. I don't know everything but I know that Israel is meeting with Turkey to sign a deal with them, as well as Egypt signing an EEZ deal with Turkey. Egypt and Israel will receive more m2 from Cyprus this way. Greece is NOT in the East Med at all! Greece will be excluded. Believe it or not, this is the position of the USA and UK as well as Turkey! EU cannot unite over this issue :)

@jongreen457

3 жыл бұрын

@Stern Daler 1. Turkish - Israel trade is at its highest ever, and still growing... 2. Turks informed Israel that zone 12 rightly belongs to Israel and Israel asked Cyprus to vacate zone 12 of its EEZ zone. Cyprus offered 10% of the revenue to Israel but Israel declined! This means the EEZ agreement between Cyprus and Israel is dead on zone 12! 3. Turkey claimed zones 4, 5, 6 and 7! They asked all companies to leave. By de facto action Israel and Turkey chased Cyprus and their partners out of the area. Zone 4, 5, 6, and 7 belong to Turkey and zone 12 is mostly Israel's property! EU is out of the picture here. 4. You don't get anywhere in geopolitics by hating the Turks and by being anti-semitic. After reading your comments, I can say that you are clearly anti-Jew and anti-Turk. 5. Best alliance in the East Med is continental countries' alliance. 6. Greece has no continental shelve in the EastMed. 7. Cyprus has no continental shelve in the East Med. Cyprus will get what islands get. 8. Continental EastMed countries are: A) Turkey, B) Egypt, C) Libya, D) Israel, E) Lebanon, F) Syria, G) Palestine (by way of Israel) 9. Island East Med Countries: A) divided Cyprus (46 years earlier divided into two democratic administrations: Turkish in the north and Greek in the south). Turkish Cypriots voted YES to unify the Island for the Annan Plan but for some reason Greek Cypriots voted NO for unifying the Island! Hence the division

Lol bunch of muppets

There is no Turkey anymore but the new Islamic state,,,Wake up Europe.

The fact that the rights of a sovereign nation and a EU Member State are violated is intolerable. Turkey continuously violates the maritime borders of the Republic of Cyprus! The fact that the EU hesitates taking action in solidarity towards to its European Member shows that the European solidarity is based on double standards. This is your chance to show if the EU acts as a unified body treating all member states equally.

why Turkey is referring to the Greek island of Kastelorizo as “Meis”? Turkish media keep repeating the “island of Meis” this and that. Turkish propaganda on Greek islands is a to a next level!

@mhdenagan1987acab

3 жыл бұрын

Meis is from the Greek megisti. Even the names they give to our islands are Greek names😂

@kolabrou

3 жыл бұрын

Turks are SO envy of the Greek islands!!! haha

@aysenaisa6207

3 жыл бұрын

Logic dictates, an island 2 km away from Turkiyes border is connected to Turkiye, Meis is 6 km away from Greece, Greece is a thief.

@kolabrou

3 жыл бұрын

mick babat but Kastelorizo is Greek. What are you going to do about it? Constantinopole city is next to Greece and we used to own it. Shall we claim it back?

Pi

Turkey, in an effort to gain new capitals, attempted to drill for oil in non-defined waters and that resulted in further economic damage for them. Lira slipped more, the international economic institutes devaluated the turkish banks even more. Good work.

@trium2025

3 жыл бұрын

turkey can sacrifice everything to protect its rights in the eastern Mediterranean Even if we are going through difficult times economically, we can easily overcome this with the geographical structure of the country and the structural reform movements in 2021.

EU talking about values...the last speaker is the best!

it is not a big deal, answer is simple "give all EEZ to Greece" in all earth, problem solved. but maybe some nations dont like it. so do it only to Turkey. for information: that debated sea zone isnt in europa. it is between asia and africa.

@emredie7705

3 жыл бұрын

@iwonnatube good to know greece put something on inhabited island and claim EEZ couse of it. near Turkey(2km) main land and so far away(600km) from greece mainland. thanks for that enlightining information.

@emredie7705

3 жыл бұрын

​@Psy Ops first of all i never said it was. greece and egypt dont too. you probably mean rebel side of libya. thanks to france, it is in civil war . but still libya count as nation as one, when hafner create a nation your argument is legit. civil war sides not count as nation. check map

@emredie7705

3 жыл бұрын

@Psy Ops still you are arguing me base on what i didnt say...

@emredie7705

3 жыл бұрын

​@iwonnatube and it is legitimize that when it was loooonngggg time ago its fine. sure if you wanna think like that. as i said lets give all Mediterranean EEZ to Greece no problem.

@emredie7705

3 жыл бұрын

​@iwonnatube i will not ignore your "This is not an oriental bazaar where you negotiate the price of melons" words of yours. and i dont answer you anymore. your EU link dont bind TR. it can probably a news for you TR isnt a member of EU. check lozan article 13 GR totally ignore that article.Check in your link.(if it was me i was invade that militarized island already. luckyly i m not) anyway you think politics is buy a melon from market. about buying, yes you are right, Greece is victim here France sold lots of millitary stuff. what do you think about it ? can we say France is the winner of that crisis? check EEZ zone GR claimed objectively. but i dont think TR will not turn back on what they claim without acceptable-good solution. have fun with your bazaar marketingin not oriental bazaar.

Mr Borrell looks corrupt

What a bad production. Badly organized and so poorly translated. Is it always so bad?

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You lying piece of shit, Turkiye always said he would like to resolve this vI a dialogue with the relevant parties in the EEZ. Look it up. Turkiye is not hostile, it is the EU who is hostile, listen to yourselves. There will be no pieceful solution because you are infringing on Turkiyes rights in the EEZ. The UN will resolve this legally so stop with your bullying tactics. The EU never accepted Turkiye so stop bullshitting yourselves, you were never neighbourly with Turks. Yes we are now threatening all of you, stay away from Turkiye. Greece do not have rights in the EEZ, so stop threatening and pushing Turkiye using the Greece card. What a joke Libyan government invited Turkiye as did Assad invite Russia to Syria. Greece has supported PKK terrorists in the 90s and now sides with those supporting Hafter who is killing Libyans, you are supporting a terrorist burying Libyans alive. You realy are a bunch of shitheads aren't you. Turkiye is not killing Kurds, it is fighting PKK terrorists whom the EU is funding. You lie to each other in front of cameras and behind closed doors you support terrorism. Stick your money where the sun don't shine, Turkiye does not need EU.or its funds. Sanction and we boycott bitch. Expansionist actions, where is Turkiye expanding to you bigot, Turkiye only wants its legal rights, prove it otherwise or shut up.,and you correct your filthy mouth when it comes to Kurds.we Kurds don't have a problem with Turks, we are brothers, if you want to make a comment use the correct terms PKK/YPG terrorists whom you fund.

It seems there are five level headed speakers in the EU, the rest of you should go home and take a good look in the mirror. You bitch Erdogan was elected by us Turks and Kurds, you are a dictator and a bully, listen to how you talk. Fuck off close your borders, keep your funds. Stop interfering in the internal affairs of Turkiye, you are upset because the terrorists you funded and supported to date against Turkiye have been jailed, your efforts were wasted.

What you lot are really saying is that Turkey has no rights or access to the sea surrounding it,

All the discusion was ottoman and hagia sophia, i know it is burning for losing Constantinopel )

Shut your face with your incursions, prove Turkiye broke the law or shut up bitch, your behaviour is destabilising sicking Greece and France onto Turkiye. So Turkiye should allow you to build a terrorist corridor on its border, you will like that wouldn't you.

Turkey number one ☝️

Cyprus is Turkish 🇹🇷

@loupsgris798

3 жыл бұрын

Xeno Blast Visa ? 😂😂

I love Recep. He did in 2 years what Europe, Israel and the Arabs had not done in the last 70 years. Unite against a common danger. Long live Recep and may he rule for ever.

@paulniotis6755

3 жыл бұрын

@Emre Parlak Haftar is hardly a dictator, since he doesn't run the entire country. "Warlord" is a better title. But just FYI, we didn't even know the existence of Haftar until Erdy signed this ridiculous EEZ agreement with the Tripoli side. You see, for an agreement to be valid, it has to be ratified by the parliament. The Turkish parliament ratified it, the Libyan didn''t. This is why after 10 months it has not yet been published by the UN authorities. :) Besides, Erdy's Ottoman dreams was the main reason Greece and Egypt signed their EEZ (ratified by both parliaments), something that not been done for the last 50 years. So in a way, Erdy is the main reason we are closing the books on all matters that stalled for years. Thank you Erdy. We love you.

@paulniotis6755

3 жыл бұрын

@Emre Parlak Well, my friend, there is a simple solution. Take the matter to the International Court Of Justice. Greeks know that the ICJ won't give them what they want and will feel cheated. But also Turks know that they won't get everything they want, so they also will feel cheated. In a sense, since we are children that cannot come to a compromise ourselves, let's go to somebody that can make this compromise for us. The Greeks said multiple times "let's go to ICJ". Is Turkey prepared to do the same? Because at the end, if Turkey keeps doing this gunboat diplomacy, a likely outcome will be that it gets nothing, since the rest of the world will be united against it.

@paulniotis6755

3 жыл бұрын

@Emre Parlak Too bad you feel that way. I'm not a religious person myself, so i don't care about Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus or Taoists. Besides, the ICJ is just based in The Hague, but is "international", not European, so there are judges of all races and all religions. The other option is starting WW3. And i always thought that the "eternal leader Kim" would be the one to push the button. hehehehehe