Great stuff. If you keep with the theme of drilling down to a regimental level, you’ll have enough material to last you until Gettysburg 200. 🙂

@AmericanBattlefieldTrust

2 жыл бұрын

Gettysburg 200: A 4DX Virtual Reality Experience 😆

@johnp9402

2 жыл бұрын

There will be a neverending amount of fascinating things too learn about the civil war. So many stories to hear!

@johnp9402

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmericanBattlefieldTrust maybe by Gettysburg 200 we'll be able to take a time machine back to see it for ourselves. I'd pay anything to see that!

@fishinglunkies3629

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnp9402 you better have an iron stomach, I’ve been in battle and seen and smelled the aftermath, you will never forget the smell…

Had never considered that Oates and Chamberlain gave accounts from different parts of the line until watching this video. Really informative stuff guys, well done

Have been to Gettysburg many times and attended professional training at Emmitsburg a number of times. My first visit in 98 with my oldest son who was a new BSA member is still talked about. I could never get anyone to go with me to join me on the field at mid-night (wonder why). This place is truly magical not only as a native Georgian, student of Longstreet, and Lee, but as an American. It is held in our collective reverence and much as the English and Scotts hold their respective fields. Great work and my knowledge is increases even further.

A cool thing to do is hike the trail to Big Round Top and check out the 20th Maine's other monument; evidence that they considered that action to be as important as their work on Little Round Top. Good stuff!

@bryanfields5563

2 жыл бұрын

Especially if you take the older and more rustic trail up (that starts behind the PA Reserves monument) rather than the official pathway.

It's fascinating how two regiments fighting each other can have such vastly different views of the fight depending on where their commanding officers were. I'd like to have gotten Maj. Spears' recollection of the fight against Oates.

@DonDon-zm3vz

2 жыл бұрын

that’s because chamberlain is a liar

@robertcampbell8070

2 жыл бұрын

@@DonDon-zm3vz Sure, bud

@jamesdunn9609

2 жыл бұрын

@@DonDon-zm3vz Oates' version is just as inaccurate as Chamberlain's. His regiment was driven off that field yet he claims the Union charges were in vain. The fact is that neither of them intentionally lied. They related the events as they appeared to them at the time. Just as multiple witnesses to the exact same crime can give wildly different versions of what happened, soldiers do the same, and for the same reasons. Calling Chamberlain a liar doesn't tell me anything at all about him, but absolutely everything I need to know about you and your "opinions."

@bryanthenderson1501

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesdunn9609 I interpreted Ullmann's reading of Oates to mean that the Alabamians' effort to hold their position on the ledge was ultimately in vain. I'll have to go back over that segment.

@jamesdunn9609

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanthenderson1501 It may mean exactly that. I haven't read that material in years, but I think my point remains valid. I don't think Oates or Chamberlain intentionally lied about anything. I believe they were reporting the events from their own personal perspectives.

This is a great video. Garry and Doug both do a good job and the context is so good. What a key point of the battle and the war.

I just finished watching the movie Gettysburg Day 2. I won't be able to watch any live videos tomorrow morning as I will be in church. I will watch them after they are posted. Thanks again for the stories about the soldiers! I love the individual soldier stories. Keep em coming, please 😊

Studying Abraham Lincoln since a child brought me to love the Civil War/American History; the movies Glory, Gettysburg and Gods and Generals were great compliments, also my favorite movies.

Enjoying all the videos Thank you everyone

I wait all year for July and your videos! Thank you for producing them. Every speaker is illuminating! Garry, thanks for ALL your energy!! Keep up the great programming!!!

I'm really getting a lot out of this year's videos. Always so much to learn. Great stuff. Thankyou to everyone for these KZread videos. I'll be watching for more interesting content on the 3rd. Also, I am a member of the Battlefield Trust.

Well said Douglas! Love the passion you have when discussing what took place

This discussion of the 2 positions and remembrances was fascinating. Well done!

I got the chills from your great narration! Thank you fellas!

Reading 'The Killer Angels' got me hooked on the Civil War. Reading the trilogy was awesome...Some things we can't know because we were not there....

Chamberlain is one of my most favorite heros. It was Chamberlain that got me hooked into learning all that I could find about the Civil War.

Douglas does a great job of bringing a new, and younger, view to the videos. I love seeing Sarah and the other new talent you have brought on board. I love the focus on the individual soldier, families, and their perspective. They had fears, family, loved ones, sweethearts, and other aspects we can relate to 160 years later. I can barely imagine trying to fight up those wooded slopes. I can imagine the fear, and then pride in a job well done, against overwhelming odds. .

Garry, Doug and everyone...fantastic work !

Historians and attorneys alike have long said - The greatest thing to have is an eyewitness but the worst thing to also have is an eyewitness! Great insight into how these two warrior leaders came away with different accounts of the same action based on what they personal saw and did during the fight and how it differed merely because of their being separated by just a few short yards.

You two are the absolute best at teaching us all. I'd very much enjoy meeting you both someday when I finally work up the money to visit those civil war battle sites. Thanks as always!

Excellent! Well done Douglas. I appreciated this greatly.

Several items of interest. After the war they never met but corresponded between each other via the battlefield monument leader because Oates wanted a small monument placed at what he believed to be the point of advancement for the 15th Alabama. Chamberlain disagreed with the point of advancement and wanted no part of allowing a monument to the 15th Alabama on that slope. The reasons for Oates were to honor his men and his brother who was wounded and left at the battle site to die later. His brother was left at a boulder referred these days as Oates Rock and died in a union hospital. Oates never got over leaving his brother to die. In addition, in later years Oates served as Governor of Alabama and Chamberlain served as Governor of Maine. So we had two future Governors leading their regiments. Oates also served as a Brigadier General (presidential commission) in the US Army during the Spanish-American War.

Stand firm you boys from Maine. Mainer and proud of the role we played that day.

@jamess7576

2 жыл бұрын

In addition to the bravery of the 20th, if you haven't already look up the actions of the 16th Maine on the 1st and the 19th Maine on the 2nd and 3rd. The boys of Maine sure did stand firm those days.

@rc59191

Жыл бұрын

@@jamess7576 I wonder why those guy's don't get as much attention as the 20th Maine.

@shellysmith1037

5 күн бұрын

@@rc59191 because of a book.

I had not heard of Oates account of the battle. Very interesting.

Gettysburg was geographically almost in the middle between Oates’ home in Alabama and Chamberlain’s home in Maine. They likely never met in battle before or after Gettysburg. But they were fated to face off at that historic spot. Each surviving the war and becoming Governor of their states later in life.

@audieconrad8995

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting perspective 👌🏼

@tiffanyannhowe1712

2 жыл бұрын

Clandestine almost!

@bryanthenderson1501

2 жыл бұрын

I see that you are familiar with Shelby Foote's "Stars in Their Courses." It's an excellent read and an exceptionally good audiobook in that we get to hear Foote's voice read his own book.

@audieconrad8995

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanthenderson1501 in that perfect southern drawl!

@bryanthenderson1501

2 жыл бұрын

@@audieconrad8995 "Honey and Magnolias." Did you grow up in Wallace, NC?

Garry’s the best - America’s History Guru!!

You also have a big fan from the Netherlands (Europe). I love every minute of your tour around the battlefield😘👍

“Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he’ll remember with advantages What feats he did that day” Shakespeare had noted this idea centuries prior. 🙂

Fantastic video! Always love Doug’s involvement! Glad he was involved again this year!

I've always been confused about the topography of the 20th Maine fight at Little Round. I've been to the area where there is essentially a swale between Little and Big Round Tops and asked myself "What's the big deal, this is nothing like the hill shown in Gettysburg?" Doug Ullman may have finally clarified this for me. The area Oates is describing is steeper and longer while the area Chamberlain is describing isn't. Also, the Maine monument is not between the left and right flank markers, which adds to the confusion. If I got this wrong, please correct me.

Great Job Doug!! A whole new way of looking at Little Round Top left flank..Thanks!!

When Gary talked about survivors embellishing their experiences it reminded me of a bit in Shakespeare's "Henry V" where Henry says at Agincourt "But he'll remember, with advantages, What feats he did that day."

Thanks for that unique perspective and I believe it to be a logical explanation of the different narratives of each officer. I am sure for every soldier at that spot on that day, they each had a unique perspective which is very much theirs and well earned.

Very interesting talk. What book(s) are your excerpts from?

Chamberlain's attack, for me, is one of the most impressive of the entire civil war. I always get emotional when I hear the attack that 20th Maine with the bayonets

Very interesting video. Thank you!

Reading Killer Angels right now. Just read Chamberlain's charge. Great job giving visual cues to what I just read. Thank you.

Enjoying all these videos.

Love the deep details of this years videos. Any good book suggestions about Chamberlin?

@kevinalexander6812

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that his personal recounting of his Civil War experience is called; Bayonet Forward! And I'm pretty sure his account of the Gettysburg Campaign is called; Through Blood and Fire at Gettysburg. Check me on that though. I could be slightly off on the titles. Have not read either book, but my Dad has them both and they're on my long list😅

@JonStallings

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinalexander6812 thank you

@tracysweatt5401

Жыл бұрын

You could also check out The Twentieth Maine, which covers their story as well as much of Chamberlain and his actions during his time in service. The Passing of the Armies was accounts written by Chamberlain himself after the war. I actually only found this one myself and am getting ready to read it myself.

I love the focus on the regiment, the soldier this year!! Great job everyone!!

I’m not sure how you keep managing to out-do yourselves year after year, learned so much in the past 72 hours it’s crazy

Thomas Desjardins believes the left side of the line nearly collapsed onto the right side of the line. Oates stated he saw his brother go down as he was trying to attack the left. Bayonets were probably already fixed when Chamberlain gave the order. Some witnesses claimed Sgt. Tozier the flag bearer moved the flag forward . Whilst he was trying to come to the aid of a fallen color guard soldier. When the soldiers on the left flank saw the flag moved they followed the movement. Men started charging down the ledge and the right side if the line also moved forward. We have to understand Chamberlain wrote an after battle report of his actions. He wrote a version to his wife. And then he wrote the story for Cosmopolitan magazine. Many feel he embellished the story. What really happened up there? That's why we visit Gettysburg. To see where men struggled.

More of Doug! Great stuff there guys.👍

This by far up to my viewing of your videos regarding Gettysburg is the best. However it might be helpful to seek out veterans of war and pick there brains regarding Fog of War. I feel the CSA Commander from Alabama did a spectacular job painting the picture. Short to the point and probably left a lot out. Remember Alabama arrived and on scene and needed water and immediately were brought on line and attacked. Also regarding Chamberlain! I feel he did a spectacular job. I’m certain he commanded and roamed the battle line and did not stay in one spot. Keep the great work. Go Army! Beat Navy!

GG was in Laws brigade with the original 4th Alabama under Lt Col Scruggs . He lived until my grandfather was 16. So remembrances of these things were passed down first hand to my grandfather. I think the Wilderness was the one he considered the toughest fight they were in, if I remember correctly. Wish I had listened and ask more questions.

It's a lot to take in . Out of all the times that I have been to Little Round Top and to think of the 20th in two battles. I know that the left and the right were at different angles but the entire area of the line you can throw a rock from one end to the other. It's a lot to think about.

Nice work on Little Round Top Doug!! I wish you could have done a song with your great voice!! 3fingers Edy from Lynchburg

Great video guys. Keep it up

This is kind of the first time I ever heard the Oates account of this part of the fighting, although in recent years I've heard more to make me think Chamberlain loved him some Chamberlain.

Good objective history covers the different perspectives. Gone are the days when the winner tells the tale. Great work.

Have been gong to Gettysburg for over 60 years Started when my parents took my sister and I Now we are taking my great nieces 4 generations

@jeffsmith2022

2 жыл бұрын

Very cool...

Speaking about what to do for next year I find. Shelf always looking at my Apple Maps to orient myself on the battlefield as I watch these videos. I wonder if you might incorporate more current map views into your story telling.

Fascinating stuff. Thank you

I was looking at the battle map on your website, there is no mention at the location where the 9th Pennsylvania reserves aka the 38th Pennsylvania were located. In fact you don't see much of anything about little round top except for the 20th Maine. Would be nice if there was an entire video dedicated to the efforts of the Pennsylvania Reserves at Little Round Top

Excellent and interesting presentation of a slightly different story of the 20 th ME

Did some of the planned day two segments get weathered out? I was looking forward to seeing the Liberty Rifles reenact the charge of the 1st Minnesota.

8:05 thank you for this personalization.

If I am not mistaken, I recall researching that there was even a disagreement between Chamberlain and Speers in regard to the series of events told well after Gettysburg.

Great video, What happened to the third part of the trilogy? Is there going to be one?

You passed over the maps a little to fast for me to get orientated where various units were located. I am familiar with the turning movement of the 20th Maine but had never heard this account of the battle.👍👍👍👍

Interesting..we very seldom get insight like this.. it furthers the the huge struggle that took place…and the tunnel vision that soldiers have in a very intense moment in time…. I would say if we could interview the men from that day ..the account would very from each person…..Thanks

Don't know if it is just me or my phone, but does anyone find the sound still too faint? It was much better on computer speakers. Be that as it may, thank you!!

Is there more things involving company b of the 20th Maine and how there actions helped?

One word for Douglas's account. Brilliant.

Thank you.

Great, but how about discussing the Fourth Alabama Volunteer Infantry Regiment next time, and its attack on the Round Tops? I am related to Major Thomas Coleman who lead the attack that day. The American Battle Trust videos tend to focus on Chamberlain and Oates at the expense of other commands at the Round Tops, although they did a nice video on the Texas regiments a few years ago.

Excellent!

So where’s the conflict? Are we saying that at the end of Gettysburg the South held Little Round Top and the North held Big Round Top? That it was a matter of orientation on the battlefield? This is new to me, and I’m not arguing - I’m just trying to understand what you’re saying. Did Oates and Chamberlain meet after the war?

Little Round Top and its battles has to be the most fascinating part of the battle of Gettysburg. So much happened in that relatively small space.

The men Chamberlain sent to shore up the left were reported to have encountered little contact with the enemy as they went too far left. In the assault against the main body of the 20th Maine when the order to refuse the line came, this could have been when the enemy was assaulting the far left of the position. So both officers could probably be right in their accounts. Brave attack by the Confederates, but uphill against a fixed position. They would have had to be lucky to succeed.

It is my experience that 2 observers on the same battlefield can have different memories of the same event. That is not saying they are fabricating, there brains may process something differently. Saw this from people in my regiment I knew were in the same action. I suspect Chamberlain was on those cliffs a few times that day hence he never lost it, the confederate army held the position from a time as well.

010624 No idea if you read this stuff one year hence. I'm 75, not a veteran, librarian and for 23 years a university library administrator. I can tell you that, if I don't actually suffer PTSD, I was traumatized during my life at the upper management level of academia. There are moments where I had to make a decision that impacted good employees, usually to their detriment. As I recall and reflect on my life experience, I do find that my memory does exceed its grasp, and I do exaggerate, particularly about my astute management. Frankly, as a literature major, I marvel at how the retelling of myths and stories begat poetry, a step in homo sapiens' possession of language.

As a Yankee I've always wondered why there isn't a marker/monument to Oats and his Alabamians on this spot.

Did any men in the lower ranks write about the fight on the left of the 20th Maine? Did they corroborate or refute what either commanding officer said about the fight? To Gary's point: good examples of embroidering, or 'mis-remembering' for personal reasons, are Longstreet's memoirs of the battle of Gettysburg, especially the attack on the third day, and David Kyle's dubious claim that Stonewall Jackson was on the Mountain Road, when he was shot by Lane's men at Chancellorsville. Federal Gen. Alfred Pleasanton was a well-known 'embroiderer' of facts and was criticized by his own subordinate officers after the war.

In the movie, you get a sense Chamberlains numbers are low following the defense of little round top. He was ordered to assault big round top after though his numbers were low? Or was that not really the case?

It seems to be a question of fact whether the far left of ME 20 got pushed off five times or not. What accounts do we have from the soldiers in the line and Spear?

Where was the refused line in relationship to where you took this video? How many of the assaults were engaged on the flank by the Co. B and the Sharpshooters.

What book is Garry reading from here?

Oates and company may have had the worst experience of ANY unit on the 2nd or possibly all week. Thats encompassing both the march in and the action itself. An amazing human feat by some seriously rugged soldiers.

Give us more, more, more and then some more.

Great story from Doug and one I’d not heard before. Makes sense of Chamberlains view and perhaps he wasn’t as pompous as some people have put forward Enjoying this - thanks guys from Devon uk

@audieconrad8995

2 жыл бұрын

With all due respect Chamberlain was not pompous. He was a brilliant and highly educated man - well beyond most people of the era. A college professor...a romantic perhaps but not pompous.

Did Chamberlain have a brother serving with him in the 20th Maine.

@AmericanBattlefieldTrust

2 ай бұрын

Yes, Thomas Chamberlain

I am disappointed that you didn’t talk about the Iversen pits. Well not as dramatic as little round top, it was a tragic event during a tragic three days. The truly sad thing is the death of these men was not necessary, but the result of an incompetent commander.

Wonderful coverage again Guys, Gals & Friends of the American Battlefield Trust. You all have done a splendid job with the extensive coverage of the amazing struggles, skirmishes & battles that make up the Gettysburg Campaign. Suggestion... Since this time frame also is in line with the culmination of the surrender @Vicksburg, MS in 1863 as well. Maybe in the future after 160th Gettysburg you all could do a "deep dive" into the Vicksburg history/story. You could go out during June & cover all or majority of what led up to the surrender on July 4th, 63'. It would be a refreshing change to the usual coverage.

Really love the concentration this year on the individual soldiers… makes the history so much more immediate

I am always interested in the 20th Maine. Of course I have 3 ancestors in the 20th Maine. 2 in company F and 1 in company B.

@audieconrad8995

2 жыл бұрын

Are they buried in Maine? Me and my Civil War buddies would be honored to visit their graves. Thank you.

Chamberlain was shot at too,his Saber saved him.The bullet hit the scabbord denting it

Its commonly referred as THE OLDER I GET THE BETTER I WAS 💪😎👊🙏🇺🇸[X]

I'll bet every soldier that was there would have their own story to tell if they could

It's called memory with advantages.

***FREEDOM IS"NT FREE LET'S SAVE BURMA*** THANK YOU !

I would say that because the 20th Maine held their position, they get the benefit of any doubt. This in no way denigrates the efforts and courage of the attacking Alabamians.

Watching Gettysburg right now. Best day to do so.

The wounded were nearly as great as those still on duty They literally covered the ground The blood stood in puddles in some places on the rocks The ground was soaked with the blood of as brave men as ever fell on the red field of battle Colonel William C Oates 15th Alabama Infantry CSA Little Round Top July 2 1863 Gettysburg

The fog of war indeed... I know the stories the Squadrons in my Regiment tell.... we were all the key to the win ....not the others lol and you know what we are all correct 😉

yes, many of our heros are not as heroic as they once were.

Bottom line, if Oates carried the hill, why didn’t he roll up the line? t the end of the day Little Roundtop remained in Union hands.

The union beat the traitors nuff said .

One side won. One side lost. Adrenalin and black power smoke makes a dream. So each account will be "remembered with advantages" as Shakespeare noted. Enjoy the drilling down.

Salamander. Find one.