Holy crap! I'm so glad I found this video. So good.

@PaulIngbretson

6 ай бұрын

lol! me, too!

Thanks again Paul and Mr Producer! Enjoyed this one very much and will return for top-ups of Ingres wisdom until I lay hands n the text. It seems to me that Ingres' was deeply immersed in the classical river and he clung to a thread running from the hem of Raphael's coat. We are all eternal students and seekers of truth compared to these Greats. I think Ingres would have not been like Degas but would have taken Raphael at his word, even the slightest divergence from their lessons leads to a very different destination. Especially in the age of the internet to keep one's eyes fixed on a simple truth without the constant avalanche of visual media and tripe swamping our senses is somewhat more of a challenge than it was in 1850. This subject of the "artist" departing the sphere of the work keeps cropping up and is at the core of this philosophy. There is no room for ego.

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Thoughtful comments, thanks, Kingsley.

Thank you for this. This is brilliant.

@PaulIngbretson

13 сағат бұрын

No worries! And thanks.

About purity at 37:00, I think he means purity of line. I think I read in one of his student’s memoirs that he was told by Ingres to draw lines as pure as adam and eve

Very, very happy Christmas to you all

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and best of New Years

Another great one… I find your comments to be as informative and clarifying as Ingres. Only, having spent ( to short a time) working with you, they have all the more clarity and value as working guides. Would love to have a copy of this. Many thanks for sharing…

@sandragalda

Жыл бұрын

I just ordered a copy from Barnes and Noble.

@richardgiedd2062

Жыл бұрын

@@sandragalda Many thanks for the tip-unfortunately I can't read any French! I'll wait to see if Paul can be of help... Thanks again.

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Remind me by email?

@sandragalda

Жыл бұрын

@PaulIngbretson thank you so much for this and sll your videos. They are super helpful always. May I please also have a copy of your translated portions also?

"Genius lies in seeing things as a whole" Sir Joshua Reynolds Allegedly, Ingres was the oldest of 7 kids, his dad was physically abusive towards his mom so the parents spent much time apart... and Oedepus reference... weird! Interesting is the kick to your mothers stomach quote. Esoteric Music and the Occult (Theosophy type ideas) were popular in France in the early 1800s. Ingres was also a musician. 39:00 The Effect of Light needs to radiate out of the figure? Self plagarism? 56:00 CS Lewis - I just read The Great Divorce, and really enjoyed it! What's your recommendation I read next? by him?

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

The Space Trilogy if you like the fiction or Narnia or even Screwtape Letters but the collection entitled Of Other Worlds had a number of essays I enjoyed. Most famous maybe is Mere Christianity. Happy reading.

The French original of this book is available freely on Archive, and, as I was ill over Christmas, I spent a few days reading through it. Let me say, I'd much rather have Paul as a teacher figure than Ingres. Where Paul stands his ground but still has a broadly live and let live attitude, Ingres is considerably more aggressive in insisting that only his view of art is correct. In that respect, when it comes to books, I find Robert Henri's The Art Spirit calmer and more helpful. That said, interspersed between moralistic judgements and some rather boring writing (apparently Ingres was a much better painter than a writer), there are interesting and thought-provoking bits in Ingres' book, and for their sake it's worth reading his book, as long as you're prepared to kiss lots of frogs before coming across the prince. The book's being in French isn't a deterrent, since if there are enough people on the channel who are interested, I am happy to gradually translate it and send it to Paul to share with everyone. I hope Paul's book comes out sometime soon...

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

That is really thoughtful, @g. If translating for us isn't too much trouble it would make a nice contribution to the available Ingres material. Hope you're feeling better. Oh, and I do have some assistance now for my book on the Boston School. One day not too far hence hopefully.

Thanks Paul enjoyed this! Sheila

Merry Christmas Paul, thank you for your recordings. I appreciate you so much. I miss being in your studio! I just purchased a copy of this publication, although it is written in French, it seems to be a gem. I found it online at Barnes and Noble. If you complete the translation, how may i obtain a copy? Thank you for making these KZread videos!

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Email me a reminder to send you the rough translation I have....and a Wonderful New Year to you, Sandra.

@sandragalda

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulIngbretson thank you so much for emailing a copy to me! I have read it and it was very interesting! I appreciate it!!!!

Actually starts reading Ingres’s words at 9:48 . You’re welcome.

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and thanks.

🤯🤯

amazing, how can I get a copy of Ingres book in English translations? if it would be possible. Thanks

@transientimages

Жыл бұрын

I second this notion! I would love to get my hands on this.

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Gladly send you my rough draft, Jim. Email me at ingbretson_studio@yahoo.com. One of our viewers is offering to translate it for all of us over time, too. Hopefully that might be done soonishly.

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

Email me, bryan. Will forward what I have.

@jimqartworks

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulIngbretson thanks so much, have a blessed 2023

How is it possible to do so many paintings as Ingres did in such a shorter amount of time, plus being so intricately completed. I don't think that it is all talent. Something else is going on there.. either he is not the painter or he had certain technology that he used. Who can give me an answer?

@Chef1719lf

6 ай бұрын

Optics!

@paulklee5790

6 ай бұрын

Ingres probably never did as much as boil an egg for himself ever, in an age with cheap servants all his basic needs were taken care of. So no need to shop, cook, do laundry, or look after his children. A man (usually a man of course)of even moderate means could just focus on his metier … that’s definitely a reason. In England so much scholarship and science was done by the clergy who had endless free time…

Could you please send me a copy of this text? I want to read the complete book

@PaulIngbretson

4 ай бұрын

Please email me for it, okay? ingbretson_studio@yahoo.com

Paul ING_RE_S_ _

@herrweiss2580

Жыл бұрын

@@gnostie Mais oui, certainement!

@PaulIngbretson

Жыл бұрын

I'm smiling...Lol!

53:50 It should be noted that it was not the "Greeks" who made that ancient art as taught in modern academia, which Ingres mentions. The real Greeks (a term first coined by the Romans, meaning 'thief, foreigner, scammer') were the Danai, who were African/Arab arrivals to the Peloponnese and lower islands from about 650BC onwards, and who were known historically to be pirates/marauders. Ingres was referring to the Macedonians/Pelasgians and the Pelasgian (meaning white people) city/states of the ancient Macedonian peninsula known today as the 'Balkans' from the 1700s onwards. Ingres was a product of his time in terms of historical knowledge and was not informed enough, whereby he attributed those ancient art ideals to the wrong historical entity.

@PaulIngbretson

2 ай бұрын

Food for thought. I'll have it in mind.

really interesting. I disagree with many of his points when it comes to truth, he seems a bit overconfident about "the true meaning and purpose of art", but i like that he at least dabbles in the relativism tho. anyway, it's fascinating to hear his perspective

@PaulIngbretson

7 ай бұрын

:)