Sanji soloing the Julian with Luo Yi was still top tier mechanics. I was super impressed with the skills of Echo members

@drunkclown5412

26 күн бұрын

thats what they need to improve casue san san duo is young..yes mechanics is very good but game IQ is better both him and sanji are super aggressive and APbren knows it very well they made alot of mistakes..Karltizy is forced to play tank utility casue of their playstyle..on the other hand Bren is oosing with mechanics and superior high IQ gaming.. experienced pheeww and flap mixing with young aggressive kyletzy ohgwen and supermarco they are super balance they know when to get aggressive or not..

@GuitarGuy-qy9wb

26 күн бұрын

Sanz can do better

@zewdrel8458

26 күн бұрын

​@@GuitarGuy-qy9wbSanz can do that in airport

@MrX-yo4ij

26 күн бұрын

@@drunkclown5412 nah karl just have no confident playing damage jungler. He washed. Kyle is by far the best jungler of all.

@drunkclown5412

26 күн бұрын

@@MrX-yo4ij I doubt that with the brink of elimination he will use any hero he wants but coach and the team plays a big role on what he picks..both Sanji and Sanford wants to solo kill and make those shiny plays if u watch it again both of them lack the iq plays in team fights they are good at picking up kills that's why they are number one is first blood..Karl can use Lancelot easily of Ling but the team needs him to tank..they can do that in different teams but against Bren you need a superior team fight mechanics Bren is superior in macro gaming and can do team fights as well that's why I said they are so balanced IQ is the name of the game..

Losing in semi final twice in a row despite being considered the strongest team. Echo come back stronger in m6 and congrats FCAP

@MrX-yo4ij

26 күн бұрын

Thats what they get for keep using tank jungler 😂 better bren winning than looking at tank jungler.

@ltk7309

26 күн бұрын

@@MrX-yo4ij tank jungler is not meta anymore bruh GG FAPbren

@MrX-yo4ij

26 күн бұрын

@@ltk7309 that's the point. Why keep using tank jungler when it is not in the meta anymore? So thats what they get for keep using it and not adapting to the new assasin meta. Bren really deserve this win.

@zewdrel8458

26 күн бұрын

Nah bren always the stronger team because flap was just sick in mpl ph that is why they lose

@ltk7309

26 күн бұрын

@@zewdrel8458 excuses bro LOL

I also rooted for bren...but man this sht fcking hurts....For real.

This shows how tank junglers became unreliable in this meta. They got easily melted in mid to late game because of the new items.

@CableGodss

26 күн бұрын

😂😂

@jaydeevaldez9934

26 күн бұрын

To be fair, tanks in general. Which is also why I rarely used roam tanks.

@sethgyellins

26 күн бұрын

​@@jaydeevaldez9934Tanks in this meta are more CC based like tig and mino. Thier job is to give a good set and at that point it doesn't matter about thier sustain

@Thismyfault

26 күн бұрын

friedrinn not viable this season anymore huh

@mar15115

24 күн бұрын

​@@Thismyfaultstill usable but you get melted so easily late game. better invade and just end early

I have to pin this loss to their coach. For not Trusting KarlTzy to play Assassin in this meta.

@linuslongayan7649

26 күн бұрын

Karltzy also decides who to draft in an INTERVIEW he also decide what to draft

@robingregorio172

26 күн бұрын

whens the last time karltzy win with an assasin against a top team? im a fan but they didnt learn from last year they could have played zaida but yeah karltzy too hungry to prove himself costed them quite a lot of money

@shengs1001

26 күн бұрын

I feel like they would have lost more with that Faramis pick which denies the burst

@han-sooyoung

26 күн бұрын

karltzy needs to blame himself for that. he is afraid to go toe-to-toe with top assassin junglers like kyletzy rn and kairi in msc 2023. result? 3-1 and 3-0 dont blame the coach u karltzy fanboy

@kenkaneki7273

26 күн бұрын

It's not about assassin bruh, it's about the last pick faramis who outdrafted them

Echo come back stronger 💪🏻

Damn that's Actually Sad 😭 i wonder How Karltzy felt 😔

@OlBlO2l2lllZ

26 күн бұрын

I don't think Karl ever cries when he lose. He just gets hungrier to win.

@lev.9822

26 күн бұрын

​@@OlBlO2l2lllZya that's what all Ph competitive team mindset is built of . You lose now so you can come back stronger and win later

@Kilo1992

26 күн бұрын

I mean for sure they felt that especially with that kind of prize pool. But as usual, next season another team will emerge it’s either echo again or other team will dethrone or atleast challenge ap bren.

@fruit3625

26 күн бұрын

Y'all say this to PH teams but when another hyped team loses everyone says overrated. It's like you treat them like a different species or they're not human. It's hypocritical af.

@riri2803

26 күн бұрын

Karl's probably thinking of how he'll get himself and the team back on track after the loss with burning eyes. lol

Bro Sanji tried so hard..

@khumdisangtam

26 күн бұрын

Bro Akhahba and bro Akhum too try so hard 😢

@cryofrostrs3856

26 күн бұрын

Benny too

I will also cry if my 500k usd became a 200k usd

@ThisIsSparta300

26 күн бұрын

Yeah I mean true but even they can’t have expected to win and 200k ain’t bad 😅

@AKIRAEXP

26 күн бұрын

It's actually 1m usdt becoming into 200k

@ltk7309

26 күн бұрын

@@AKIRAEXP USD not USDT you herp derp weeaboo.

@phildunphy3890

26 күн бұрын

Do the players axtually get the full 500k usd? or the organisation

@TheGreatTroller

25 күн бұрын

​@@phildunphy3890its the organisation and also depends on the contract if they have any % of share cut for Prizepool or not usually not because they are paid with salary already some contract offer % or not offer anything but still give them some % as bonus

Comeback strong Echo 😢

The regrets and after loss feelings looks really genuine and true unlike C9 ... C9 just came to participate but Echo came Riyadh so that they could win .. I felt sorry and sad for Echo .. No Echo loud Echo Proud this time😢😢😢

@linuslongayan7649

26 күн бұрын

only basic and mielow came to participate,with their intentional feeding and trolling

@asiandiablo2717

26 күн бұрын

the way you need to bring c9 into the convo lol

@Midnight8869

26 күн бұрын

UNLIKE GUUUNICCC too 🤡

@reth4761

26 күн бұрын

​@@asiandiablo2717 C9 lives rent free in his head, that's why 😂

@capricorn3266

25 күн бұрын

They should have played better now cry hard and wait for next msc to loose again

Apaka humble ni supermarco

@Grey_Fit

26 күн бұрын

mayabang kasi ung sansan duo nung nanalo sila sa mpl ph nabawian tuloy

Sanji gave his all but still couldn't I feel so sad for him

Sanji Crying 💔

@riri2803

26 күн бұрын

Sanji always cries, win or lose. As well as Sanford. lol

Sanji Crying 😭

Their rivalry is something we should celebrate. Both teams are the best and have Goated players. This rivalry is far more better than the rivalry between rrq and evos coz both are M Champions.

Sanji came from a poor family and I know the story of this kid who loves playing ML using the broken phone of his father. It hurts to see him like this because i want him to win MSC to help his family. Same with Sanford who's working hard for his family because his father suffered stroke when they won M4. Come back stronger Echo. I know you can beat Bren on M6

Ganyan talaga ang laro, hindi palagi nananalo minsan kailangan din makaranas ng talo upang sa ganun mas maiimprove pa natin yung mga dapat iimprove at maitama ang pagkakamali, at pinaka importante hwag manghinayang dahil natalo, bagkus gamitin itong inspirasyon upang umangat muli ay ipagpatuloy ang laban. GGWP TLPH, your still one of the best team in Mlbb, comeback stronger💪💪💪

The best way to counter a team with a good setter or engage roamer like Owgwen is to pick utility roam(the healers) like Estes, Floryn, Angela, Rafa, or wven Mathilda and Diggie. That would've worked on TLPH considering that Karl preferred to do utility jungling. But of course, it would take someone as good as OMV in utility roam to pull off an effective strat against setters and damage junglers.

Supprting between FCAP & TLPH we🇵🇭 are divided, but stating this was the grandfinals we🇵🇭 are united.

Good game for both of the teams!

The mobazane Disease spread to karl and made him playing the 3 hero pools

@blackpanther1773

26 күн бұрын

People are trying to bash MobaZane that he can't use jungle heroes other than tank, but karl was always using them since m4.

@Greeeyt

26 күн бұрын

The Great North American MLBB Disease of 2024😂😂

@Greeeyt

26 күн бұрын

@@blackpanther1773 Karl can use assassins in the tournament, MobaZane for once had failed so badly.

@randomguy7863

26 күн бұрын

​​@@blackpanther1773 karl adapted in different metas 🤦 mm, fighter, assassin and tank junglers and still win while mobablame cant even win anything😂

@Gusion-mi8pf

26 күн бұрын

​@@blackpanther1773geycuck mobaincel spotted

Just worried on all the team in mpl right now I know this guys will gonna comeback stronger and will dominated every teams next season

Congratulations to SRG for winning MSC 2024🎉

its not about the draft apbren study the rotation of liquid and they know how to stop the back line style of Sanford the target the hero of sanji in the draft

Man, no one in the tournament is even close to echo. Bren is just on another level. PH talent is just overflowing.

This is why we should ban faramis, because this hero make momentum hero like terizla like a clown

The last draft was so insane , but many of the comfort heroes of echos was picked by apbren , so that’s why it was so hard to play, the team fight of echo was not effective , because of the agressive play of bren , but it’s part of the game to lose better game next time echo.

@zewdrel8458

26 күн бұрын

Yeah coach trebor really knows his old team

crying means that they doing their best and serious about it, good luck next time bros

Ganon po talaga. Minsan nasa taas minsan nasa baba. Pero sana iangat nyo ulit sarili nyo after neto.

I'm sick and tired of people blaming specific people of echo, fcap is just the better team period

@jeno295

26 күн бұрын

exactly

@rafiarifputra2295

26 күн бұрын

sadly that always happens in every losing team. remember when people blamed either kairi or buts? or even sanz?

I know Echo will comeback soon as the strongest team again. Best thing about Echo is that they always bounce back from a lose.

I realized after this match that APBR is so hungry and better when it comes to international tourneys.

wheres the music bro

Forced to be 3rd because of bracketing. That's tough.

Bro has no chill with the titles 😭

@globalgaming1

26 күн бұрын

No 😭 I didn't mean it like that

@xunsungwar77

26 күн бұрын

it's ok. lovers don need to respect.. LETS GO BREN!

Ban moonton for a wrong matchmaking composition lol...its should be PH vs PH in grand finals lol

ECHO's SanSan duo relies too much on Karltzy being a tank for them to be effective. That's why they need this loss for the duo to improve because they're more like a bunch of solo players now than a team because they're too hungry to get those MVPs and highlights. At least Karl let assassin gameplay go just for the team, now SanSan duo needs to let go of the Solo Player mindset.

Lack of preparation causes tlph lose. Honestly, the patch is favor to kyletzy. Kyletzy still using assassin when the meta is still utility while karl is pure utility and that is the reason why bren didn’t had hard time to adjust to the meta. Also I think tlph just focuses on countering the assassin meta than to make new strat with assassin hero. Kyle is ahead than karl on this assassin meta but I hope karltzy can take his revenge next season

Super marco - whats happening? 😂😂

Welp now we all know who's the winner of this year's mid season cup🤣

If I had a nickel every time Echo lost MSC semis to yellow team they badly beat the last tournament they met, I’d have 2 nickels. Not much, but weird that it happened twice

Echo Fumbling Again..

Airport is that way 👉🏻✈️

@geraldsalonga7891

26 күн бұрын

Sabay sabay lng uuwi Yan

Utility jungle = auto loose vs top tier teams ...

Echo pick is too un-meta

Okay lang yan para mabawasan kunti yung kayabangan..learn nalang sa mistake.😊

@iammrscordero

26 күн бұрын

Mas mayabang bren tanga

Laki din kasi ng 3 million dollars above 150 million pessos na yun eh millionaryo na sana sila kung nanalo sila. Pangit ng draft nila eh pilit masyado yung sustain jg.

They are world champs for a reason. The other one is a two time world champ

Hopefully karl can get good in assassins

58 million na sana kung nanalo sila sa Bren 🥳🎉🎉 oks lang yan echo malaki naman na yung 11 million 🥳🎉🎉

No matter how skilful a player is, playing non-meta hero against a pro team sure lose, this game is too imbalance mlbb need to fix matchmaking as well

good for echo, king of recalls wkwkwk

Bren getting stronger after 0-4 Echo in Mpl they even beat SYS like they playing with AI😅

Kung kailan malaki price pool ska di nagbatak sa karltzy ng assassin alm na nagbago patch ng stay pa rin utility jungle

Did echo done something that made Flap and KyleTzy anrgy? I thought there was like friendly rivary between PH players and all of them are best friends 🤣🤣🤣

@m1ngtzy

26 күн бұрын

that's normal to them

Karll!!! Noo!!!

iiyak talaga si midlane dyan kase walang bawi lagi sya pinipitas ng Assassin jungle 🥳🎉🎉

Faramis against onic out M5 Faramis against echo out now. Lol

@rafiarifputra2295

26 күн бұрын

pheww is the perfect counter to sanz and sanji's aggresive midlaner gameplay. notice how sanji never picks faramis and how sanz faramis is basically shit

@riri2803

26 күн бұрын

​@@rafiarifputra2295 Nah, Sanji is a good Faramis. Just watch his S10 Faramis plays. Liquid just weren't able to practice and adjust to meta heroes.

bro i jus woke up

@Eng-rd6je

26 күн бұрын

Same 😭 I can't see Sanji Crying 💔

letting apbren pick julian multiple times

Flap without gallstones is diff hahaha

Coach Tic Tac chose to play the old meta that won them against BREN back in MPL PH finals. it's not gonna work this time. Should have played assassin on karl

@OverhaulOfficial

26 күн бұрын

Bro wag mo sisihin si tictac si Karl talaga drafter nila tas yung dalawang coach sila nag iiscout kung anong possible pick ng kalaban

Nawalan na siguro si karl ng confidence na mag damage jungler, nasanay na sa tank nawala na yung dating karl na bumubuhat ng team

Hindi na to kasalanan ni Jaypee. Kasalanan na to ni Sanford kasi may bagong ilong

They still made about 200k

@Chrollo17th

26 күн бұрын

It should be $500k and 500 ewc points

Jaypee ruined my boi Rafflesia’s career, I hope he doesn’t win a international title 🙏

This wouldn't have been painful if this was the real grand finals. But Moonton won't let that happen. Hate me if you want to but it's a fact.

The question is...Did TLPH deserved the 3RD or 4TH placed with out a fight Moneyton????🤑

SRG CAN DESTROY BOTH OF THEM COMBINED 😂😂😂

such a disrespectful title.

@globalgaming1

26 күн бұрын

Sorry I didn't mean to 😭

@Ling007

26 күн бұрын

L-Echo = Liquid echo stop crying

@scartzy3816

26 күн бұрын

he didn't mean it like that guys

@johnchina4065

26 күн бұрын

Lol are you crying too?🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Nameless-hy7fu

26 күн бұрын

I mean what can you expect from a third world monkey who probably has no hobby and a real job

So this is how it is huh? When kairi cries, he is a crybaby. But When Karltzy cries, he is "doing great" Bunch of pathetic people

Bren learned to counter TLPH macros after their lost in MPL PH. Sanford can't zone Pheww, Jaypee only has 3 heroes, Karltzy forced to play utility, Benny can't make a play. It's an outdraft together with favorable meta for APBren.

@rafiarifputra2295

26 күн бұрын

benny is like cw. they only shine when their team secures the early game. press their mid trio, and they cant do anything

They should've shown the same energy they showed against team spirit who's one of the weakest team🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

they need an aggressive roamer..

@robingregorio172

26 күн бұрын

nah they need an assasin jungler. tank meta definitely going away karltzy mechanics as an assasin lacking now

@catalyst.4664

26 күн бұрын

Kasalanan nanaman ni JAYPEE 😭

@cero4496

26 күн бұрын

YAWI

@Chrollo17th

26 күн бұрын

@@robingregorio172 di nga makapag assassin s karl DHL sya nga inaasahan sumalo Ng dmg, shot call at retri. Ilang beses n gulpi echo kng s jaypee nag initiate

@lasagnaplays8982

26 күн бұрын

​@@robingregorio172dba dapat roamer mag initiate pero bat di ginagampanan ni jaypee? or kaya nya ba tsaka bakit si karl ung pinapauna niya??

PAG NAG CHAMPION AP BREN SANA SIRAIN NILA YUNG KEY NA LANG NG EVOS,ONIC ID ,SAKA NG HOMEBOIS

Iiyak ka talaga kasi dapat dun sa kabilang grupo yung bren napunta tuloy sa ibang team yung 500k

syempre iiyak yang mga yan, kahit sino naman na mawalan ng chance for an additional $800k

Choke lang talaga lagi sa international si jaypee. Sa MPL PH winstreak lagi naman lagi sila.

Kalrtzy cant use assasin vs bren? Too old or scared?

Fired jaypee and Mitch liwanag

Well we all know how rigged that Group draw is😂😂😂 if no indo teamd no one can poison any ph teams thats fact. Thats why they put them in the same bracket.

@Molacules

26 күн бұрын

yah, it was obvious RIGGED, they even didn't jumble those keys before picking, MOONTON always hating PH 😆🤣

Tinrashtalk pa kasi ni flap eh HAHAHAHAHAH

@mr.P1MP

26 күн бұрын

Flap likes to flap his jaw

@rafiarifputra2295

26 күн бұрын

sobrang toxic ni flaptzy

@hachiman5311

26 күн бұрын

Si flap toxic? Bumabawi lang yan ngayon hahahaha. Kung makikita nyo kung papaano yan ni trashtalk ni sanford nung na 4-0 sila 🤣🤣. Pag marunong ka magbigay dapat marunong ka rin tumanggap hahaha

@riri2803

26 күн бұрын

​​@@hachiman5311 Lol nung hypercarry era pangalawa lang yan si Flap kay Karl sa katoxican. Maganda diyan kay Flap marunong tumanggap hahaha.

Tank jg pa

Natalo man kayo pero solid pa din pinakita nyo sayang din nga kasi medyo naoutdraft tsaka Ganda sana kung assassin battle hehe sayang talaga bawi na lang idol sana wag mabuwag echo kayo pa din line up

BREN unbeatable!! Never doubt them:p

wala nang alam si Karl puro tank na lang! dapat mag assassin's dn kasi

Ikaw b nmn may PAST COACH TREBOR FROM ECHO TEAM E, e alm n alm nya kaya ng PLAYERS DATI. Lol ung GF nyang c trebor maissue din yan .

Deserve ni jaypee yan

Tank pa more😅😅😅😅

Obvious naman na iiyak mga yan. Magtataka ka nalang if magtatawanan pa sila 😆

Baaltzy 😂😂

Natalo na nga akai sa game 1 binalik pa sa game 4 anong strat yun dimanlang pinagamit ng assassin si karl,, chaka sa game 4 kita nilang binan na si valintina hindi binan si faramis,, pa ulit2 ako ng comment kagabe ban faramis hahah😂

While jaypwe ss to nothing

SANPORT GO OUT

Siguro totoo sinabi ni coach duckeyyy. Ang pagkakaiba nila sa ibang teams is di sila takot matalo, kaya di sila pressured sa game and isa palang game loss nila sa msc. Siguro pag natalo FCAP sa TLPH dito mag uusap lang sila after game tapos balik tiktok ulit mga players hahahaha

@lasagnaplays8982

26 күн бұрын

this is the way how to ease up the tension tiktok lang 😂

L ECHO CRY AGAIN NEXT TIME 😂

@catalyst.4664

26 күн бұрын

They still made about $200k so it wasn't a total loss

@welmscott3246

26 күн бұрын

@@catalyst.4664look at his other comments lol

@welmscott3246

26 күн бұрын

Dude heartbroken rn😂😂

Lol 3 1 cry hard atleast it wasn't a sweep 0

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

A lose is a lose. Easy to say, right? Because I am not in their position who worked hard to get there. I'm just an expectant. But I just thought of this... Would I rather be defeated by someone stronger than me? Or someone weaker than me? Just make it up next time. Somehow you proved to your bashers that you still remained strong... you just weren't lucky enough to win the championship you dreamed of.