Lip Service | DreamDoll talks having a boyfriend and girlfriend, surgical reductions, double dildo..

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  • @gmgmakeitrain06
    @gmgmakeitrain062 жыл бұрын

    Angela is smooth with the topic change! She makes it flow right into the next question

  • @treasuremyheart89

    @treasuremyheart89

    2 жыл бұрын

    Real journalism

  • @brittanylacking2877

    @brittanylacking2877

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know for a fact her n ari had a three some together frfr

  • @deza6873

    @deza6873

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brittanylacking2877 no.. really?? How you kno lolll

  • @gorgeousgenesis

    @gorgeousgenesis

    2 жыл бұрын

    don't she.... she be like ok SWITCH lol legal terms be on point show runner artist stunner lol

  • @yungrel1916

    @yungrel1916

    Жыл бұрын

    She definitely the goat wit this interview/ journalist shht

  • @andreadenise6332
    @andreadenise63322 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t like dream on bad girls club but I grew to like her as she got older ! She is very humble !!

  • @atasteoftarot

    @atasteoftarot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessss 🙌🏾

  • @i.b.w.innovativeblackwoman4503

    @i.b.w.innovativeblackwoman4503

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg saaaame! Now she has definitely grown own me. She matured so much

  • @jamiyahjackson6604

    @jamiyahjackson6604

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yess I was absolutely disgusted with her on bgc. When I then discovered her music and started watching her in the interviews as time passed I can say she has grown a LOT and I am so proud of her💜

  • @sherrycooper9909

    @sherrycooper9909

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes she take care of her family well

  • @six8bartend872
    @six8bartend8722 жыл бұрын

    These new girls are lost. How is he jealous because he don’t want you cheating on him with a girl . The confusion is real 🤔

  • @kbbryant4257

    @kbbryant4257

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes man my face

  • @nalm9488

    @nalm9488

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree and I’m a female.

  • @chrissybradford8477

    @chrissybradford8477

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean that is still jealousy whether the jealousy is justified or not it’s still jealousy

  • @chrissybradford8477

    @chrissybradford8477

    2 жыл бұрын

    The “new girls” are applying male logic and men don’t like it!!!

  • @pinkparis3197

    @pinkparis3197

    2 жыл бұрын

    “These new girls” ARE DOING THE DAMN THING

  • @tishanacherise
    @tishanacherise2 жыл бұрын

    Im so proud of her progress! From BGC to now?! GROWTH! KEEP GOING DREAM!!

  • @Vsiv0919
    @Vsiv09192 жыл бұрын

    You are not bi-sexual if you’ve never ate 🐱 & don’t see a relationship with a women….curious maybe, but that’s not really what you like hun

  • @vibequeen88

    @vibequeen88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Talk hun

  • @EssenceV333

    @EssenceV333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! What's up with all these pillow princess talking bout they like girls. Lol

  • @yungReparations

    @yungReparations

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s giving the Nicki Minaj bisexual clout chase era

  • @EssenceV333

    @EssenceV333

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yungReparations 😂😂 accurate af.

  • @LiveLovePureNatural

    @LiveLovePureNatural

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yungReparations 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰

  • @chrissyneppy
    @chrissyneppy2 жыл бұрын

    Yassssss I can’t wait I’m there at every New York show definitely not missing Dreamyyy 🥰❤️

  • @kimmiles3643
    @kimmiles36432 жыл бұрын

    I like this Angie show she interviews everyone never a dull show.

  • @raqui174

    @raqui174

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cuz it’s mostly about sex lol

  • @jtdozier5
    @jtdozier52 жыл бұрын

    OMG I can't wait til I am somewhere I can listen to this episode. Love Dreamdoll

  • @lobeashy
    @lobeashy2 жыл бұрын

    I love me some dreamy. She can really spit and she ACTUALLY looks like a doll which is a plus. Such a great attitude

  • @janaesignatures
    @janaesignatures2 жыл бұрын

    This is a great interview from Dream. I’ve seen others of her where she wasn’t comfortable, & her personality was able to really come through and shine! 💗😍😍

  • @janaesignatures

    @janaesignatures

    2 жыл бұрын

    The lip service panel is so doooope and everyone is so pretty!! 😍😍

  • @suzettesinclair11
    @suzettesinclair112 жыл бұрын

    I love how Dream is down to earth! Keep doing your thing!

  • @MarieAmicalola
    @MarieAmicalola2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve enjoyed her since BGC. It’s so wonderful to see her growth and shine.

  • @wildflowers5108
    @wildflowers51082 жыл бұрын

    Always a hit with Dream, love her!

  • @JennJennntv
    @JennJennntv2 жыл бұрын

    Love Dream , NYC Artist in general really doing their thing & I can't wait to see her continue to grow

  • @houseofmatrix6174

    @houseofmatrix6174

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can definitely see Dream blowing up 🙏🏿

  • @edockedock3957
    @edockedock39572 жыл бұрын

    She is making it seem like her boyfriend was being a jealous dude. While also making it seem like she was connecting with another girl. Switch the genders women will freak out at the thought of their men being this close to other men 🤣🤣.

  • @JessicaSoto-nu8wq
    @JessicaSoto-nu8wq2 жыл бұрын

    I love how open she is

  • @heartlesssag5785
    @heartlesssag57852 жыл бұрын

    Def one of my fav episodes nothing but positive vibes & DreamDoll is so damn beautiful & funny

  • @jenisetyler2027

    @jenisetyler2027

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know make up n money does wonders right🤣🤣

  • @Tarot_withAsh
    @Tarot_withAsh2 жыл бұрын

    Dream is underrated her lyrics are fire 🔥 it’s gives 90s Kim. Yasss! My girl steph is back.

  • @prettyjazs9725
    @prettyjazs97252 жыл бұрын

    I can’t wait for dream 3rd album 😩❤️ let’s just say this, the carter lll is Wayne’s best album

  • @honeylala9906
    @honeylala99062 жыл бұрын

    Dreamdoll is so inspiring! She literally been self made since she stepped foot in starlets

  • @jenisetyler2027

    @jenisetyler2027

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your weak… and on her😺🤡

  • @richmindset3369

    @richmindset3369

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jenisetyler2027 yet you watching her interview ? LMFAOOO fan behavior bro

  • @jenisetyler2027

    @jenisetyler2027

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richmindset3369 you think I watched these idiots. Absolutely not. Boy bye to your dreams

  • @katielatoya9347

    @katielatoya9347

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richmindset3369 right

  • @Mh-xe1zh

    @Mh-xe1zh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dream is unprofessional af. Bitch showed up to her booking at 3:53 when it ended at 4am like bye

  • @ishabell9820
    @ishabell98202 жыл бұрын

    Congrats DreamDoll. I'm so sorry but Stephanie Santiago is A FINE ONE. GOODNESS GRACIOUS ♥️ and her deep voice is all of it.

  • @akidajasper6545
    @akidajasper65452 жыл бұрын

    Her bars have really stepped up. Her growth is dope man.

  • @houseofmatrix6174
    @houseofmatrix61742 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for Dream Doll to comeback

  • @justusgarrett4179
    @justusgarrett41792 жыл бұрын

    Let’s admire how beautiful all these ladies are like omg y’all all are OD gorgeous 😍✨

  • @Inspirewithkay
    @Inspirewithkay2 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know much about dream but I loved her energy! She’s so open and beautiful I can’t wait to see what she does with her music!

  • @maudavercher6418
    @maudavercher64182 жыл бұрын

    I loved this Dream interview!! Major love and S/o to all of you beautiful ladies!! Damn, I need friends like y’all! So much fun. 🤪💙

  • @candi8968
    @candi89682 жыл бұрын

    Wow I wasn’t a fan of Dream before…not for any reason in particular. However, after this interview I’m a new fan. She’s beautiful and intelligent! ❤️❤️

  • @Strawberryfearsforever

    @Strawberryfearsforever

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's the BGC holding me back .

  • @Oncledreamin

    @Oncledreamin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Strawberryfearsforever yes I have the biggest grudge against her after what she did to kaillie

  • @gigiatkinson2537

    @gigiatkinson2537

    2 жыл бұрын

    Disliked her on bgc but she apologize which was nice.

  • @BlackGirlUnsolved

    @BlackGirlUnsolved

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Strawberryfearsforever yup that kick and bullying shit is wack.

  • @TheElFamilyofstars
    @TheElFamilyofstars2 жыл бұрын

    Dang we love her ! We need her to come back it was too quick.

  • @Therealestscorpio
    @Therealestscorpio2 жыл бұрын

    love dream doll she a whole vibe , really a NY girl 😊🤍

  • @_ktinay
    @_ktinay2 жыл бұрын

    Dream is so beautiful and her personality shines

  • @laquantaylor8136
    @laquantaylor81362 жыл бұрын

    I stay watchin lip service just to see wat women are into 💪🏾💪🏾 I love it here ☺️

  • @mariesneed9023
    @mariesneed90232 жыл бұрын

    Dream so happy to see her working with other musicians I really enjoyed this one always funny n live.good job ladies

  • @kristenjones263
    @kristenjones2632 жыл бұрын

    Please have pour minds on lip service

  • @user-rm1lm3rt7e

    @user-rm1lm3rt7e

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yass I'd love this

  • @RockyMitchel

    @RockyMitchel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg that’d be so fire 🔥

  • @sskiddles31081

    @sskiddles31081

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeeessss!

  • @Kala_S

    @Kala_S

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a mustttt

  • @21cookiepm

    @21cookiepm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pleaaaaasse do!

  • @deluxstack1870
    @deluxstack18702 жыл бұрын

    Love love😍 dream doll very cool , humble , n on her square . This interview was excellent, she made you want to keep watching ❤️❣️✅🔑

  • @louisianacookingwithkay
    @louisianacookingwithkay2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad Gigi is back OMG!!

  • @JessicaTheeDevinefem
    @JessicaTheeDevinefem2 жыл бұрын

    Angela is just Exquisite at what she do period !!!💪🏽

  • @denoakamoneyman4018
    @denoakamoneyman40182 жыл бұрын

    Get angela yee to 100k 🔥🔥

  • @awalkwithrobinsonwave5144
    @awalkwithrobinsonwave51442 жыл бұрын

    I learn something new today about all of your ladies , it wild on lips service open up wide!!!!!

  • @floridaseafoodsiblings770
    @floridaseafoodsiblings7702 жыл бұрын

    So proud of you Dream! I loveeeee youuuu!!! Boss me up baby!

  • @bellaricanmami3082
    @bellaricanmami30822 жыл бұрын

    I like how open dream doll is and she’s so pretty 💓😍😍😍

  • @cclee6987
    @cclee69872 жыл бұрын

    Santiago really said that she wouldn't date a woman because the scariness of a man keeps her from being physically abusive.. that's crazy.

  • @courtneywilson2232

    @courtneywilson2232

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry I really don’t understand what she’s saying? Is she saying she don’t want to be a woman because of….men?

  • @meganbranscomb7012

    @meganbranscomb7012

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very crazy , its disgusting & low vibrational

  • @kikibara1

    @kikibara1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very crazy for sure!

  • @reythomas9215

    @reythomas9215

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@courtneywilson2232 She was basically saying she wouldnt date a woman because she would end up putting hands on her. Therefore she prefers to date men as their scariness will stop her from trying to put hands on them

  • @TherealNia96
    @TherealNia962 жыл бұрын

    They need more interviews like this. Sexuality is a conversation we like to hear 💪🤗

  • @gorgeousgenesis
    @gorgeousgenesis2 жыл бұрын

    I luv the women who have natural beauty like her. She doesn't have to do too much and even if she do its never REQUIRED. Her teeth are really pretty and her makeup is soft and just enuff!!

  • @Ms.jasmineblossom
    @Ms.jasmineblossom2 жыл бұрын

    There Were All Good Vibes 🥰 I Love When I See Women Bonding.

  • @IssaNativgalIcyGal
    @IssaNativgalIcyGal Жыл бұрын

    she's so genuine awe

  • @ayodeleomenai5201
    @ayodeleomenai52012 жыл бұрын

    Every female on this podcast fine as hell, big up yourselves

  • @riothill2878
    @riothill28782 жыл бұрын

    Angie I been getting all the fuckn game from this shit love y’all all y’all ❤️❤️

  • @shadeenah8791
    @shadeenah87912 жыл бұрын

    Stephanie looking so beautiful on this episode. I mean she's beautiful regardless but something about this time that i'm captivated.

  • @cpalmer0903
    @cpalmer09032 жыл бұрын

    Love this conversations

  • @tyronepearson710
    @tyronepearson7102 жыл бұрын

    I wanna see Ari Lennox up here

  • @in-vision-disllc4005
    @in-vision-disllc40052 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy that she stated she wanted her body to be natural again.

  • @jazzydarling7218

    @jazzydarling7218

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do to almost dying they all do cardi b, k Michelle and everybody else

  • @mommafoxxdiaries6509

    @mommafoxxdiaries6509

    Жыл бұрын

    They always said that the natural tend will return 💯

  • @trisha896

    @trisha896

    Жыл бұрын

    She didn’t specify. She had illegal injections taken out, like cardi and k Michelle it’s not that they wannna be “natural again” is because they started experiencing side effects from bioploymer injections..: nothing to do with a bbl

  • @andreadenise6332
    @andreadenise63322 жыл бұрын

    This is what u call a podcast interview ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ thatDCMWG need to take notes fr ! #Dream 💋

  • @louisianacookingwithkay
    @louisianacookingwithkay2 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations boo boo👏🏾👏🏾 🥂🥳🍾🍾🎊🎊🎉🎉

  • @andreadenise6332
    @andreadenise63322 жыл бұрын

    I would LOVE TO SEE NICKI AND DREAM WITH A COLLAB !!!

  • @mikekarpouzie
    @mikekarpouzie2 жыл бұрын

    Dreamdoll is so fine and her music has improved too yet she’s still slept on 🤦‍♂️

  • @jshifty9618

    @jshifty9618

    2 жыл бұрын

    imagine being a nigga listening to dreamdoll😭

  • @mikekarpouzie

    @mikekarpouzie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jshifty9618 ??? She’s been killing it. It’s ok you can listen to female rappers too 💀

  • @RNGGODv

    @RNGGODv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea like u can listen and give a female props some of them be spitting 💯

  • @jamiyahjackson6604

    @jamiyahjackson6604

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jshifty9618 Yeah this was zesty

  • @jshifty9618

    @jshifty9618

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamiyahjackson6604 zesty asf. she a female rapper tryna rap lika nigga. this not adele😂😂

  • @Vimeo1x
    @Vimeo1x2 жыл бұрын

    Gigi’s face at 25:03 😭🤣😭

  • @louisianacookingwithkay
    @louisianacookingwithkay2 жыл бұрын

    Do you write your own music??? When Talk To Me Nice came out I was wondering if you write your own music.

  • @dejawallace9595
    @dejawallace95952 жыл бұрын

    love you Angela ❤️

  • @clea7097
    @clea70972 жыл бұрын

    WE'RE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU DREAM!!! GO GO GO!!!

  • @TakeyshaP89
    @TakeyshaP892 жыл бұрын

    Ok, but can I get the details on that toy? Name and brand?

  • @cj10109
    @cj101092 жыл бұрын

    I heard a few of her songs and I like her. She seems real cool 😎

  • @juliashawnte
    @juliashawnte2 жыл бұрын

    What happened to L’Oréal being on lip service? 👀

  • @OvOBreezy126
    @OvOBreezy1262 жыл бұрын

    Yo i love this shit.. RAW AF Always🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😂😂😂

  • @Rae-ob7pf
    @Rae-ob7pf2 жыл бұрын

    Heyyy Angela just tuning in

  • @kai6115
    @kai61152 жыл бұрын

    Dream face card is too valid man 😍

  • @2legitwelit
    @2legitwelit2 жыл бұрын

    Love them!!!

  • @kdreannarolle3842
    @kdreannarolle38422 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved dream the only thing I disliked was when she was a cast member on bgc that's it other than that I've always love her music and her confidence 💯💯

  • @ABeautifulMess101

    @ABeautifulMess101

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts.

  • @dimelo30

    @dimelo30

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah she was bully

  • @bbygurlrav
    @bbygurlrav2 жыл бұрын

    Love y’all videos, keep killin shit!

  • @msjones979
    @msjones9792 жыл бұрын

    I've forgiven her,since her bgc days.Shes growing on me.

  • @kennethking5424
    @kennethking54242 жыл бұрын

    #1#LOVE LOVE#LOVE THIS ONE#LOVE IT

  • @louisianacookingwithkay
    @louisianacookingwithkay2 жыл бұрын

    I really love Talk To Me Nice!! That's my shit, it's a bop for me!! I still listen to that song. Frfr 🤞🏾I probably played it about a hundred times.

  • @rockwithfonz8424
    @rockwithfonz84242 жыл бұрын

    Father’s real talk stay in your children’s lives especially your daughters lives I’m just saying (MESSAGE)

  • @quashaylacobb4734
    @quashaylacobb47342 жыл бұрын

    Omg this episode made me realize my fantasy 😩

  • @Juniordeuce

    @Juniordeuce

    2 жыл бұрын

    We listening ?

  • @Enjoylifetoday30

    @Enjoylifetoday30

    2 жыл бұрын

    😋 Include all the details please

  • @ariesspring2161

    @ariesspring2161

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @__just_joshin
    @__just_joshin2 жыл бұрын

    Dreamdoll is backkkkkkk

  • @houseofmatrix6174

    @houseofmatrix6174

    2 жыл бұрын

    I kno 🏁

  • @protegemartinez6282

    @protegemartinez6282

    2 жыл бұрын

    Period 👅🙌🏾

  • @r4pstar343
    @r4pstar3432 жыл бұрын

    Did lorel leave the podcast?

  • @elmyraduff13
    @elmyraduff132 жыл бұрын

    Love DREAMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything about her. That’s my babe

  • @dezziefbby
    @dezziefbby2 жыл бұрын

    Steph looks fine as hell. I love it when she takes the shades off.

  • @kimmiles3643
    @kimmiles36432 жыл бұрын

    She has to be direct with each party she's dealing with all relationships are based on truth.

  • @dezziefbby
    @dezziefbby2 жыл бұрын

    I guess I've never seen her face before. She's so beautiful! She looks like a baby doll. lol.

  • @nr3147
    @nr31472 жыл бұрын

    What movie/ soundtrack she came out in ?

  • @rolonda21
    @rolonda212 жыл бұрын

    GG been looking so good lately

  • @justusgarrett4179
    @justusgarrett41792 жыл бұрын

    I watched the first interview on lip service when dream first came on I’ve been a fan of hers since BGC and she’s evolved so much she’s such a star she’s so real and raw I loved this interview my sis a big freak but we new that well I did 🔥✨👏 #Dream

  • @mschanel27
    @mschanel272 жыл бұрын

    ouu my girl dream doll on here again

  • @eduardomelendez6336
    @eduardomelendez63362 жыл бұрын

    Freaks... Specially Santiago the one in the white jump suit....very interesting topic....👍♥️it😂🤣 bless peace one n life

  • @CashMyChecks
    @CashMyChecks2 жыл бұрын

    Stephanie looks like a character off Celebrity Death Match 😭😂😂

  • @JamRastaRaleigh919

    @JamRastaRaleigh919

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know this comment is old but 🤣😂😭

  • @fabulouseddie9488

    @fabulouseddie9488

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @miyagihefna542
    @miyagihefna5422 жыл бұрын

    Stephanie and Angela at the same time Lord 🙏😂

  • @kaydunk3149
    @kaydunk31492 жыл бұрын

    I just wanna acknowledge that these last few episodes Gi Gi really been shitting on everyone else with the drip, shawty can get licked to sleep the way she been looking lately. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk, that is all.

  • @djrjboston

    @djrjboston

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm weirdly not attracted to her but she was looking extra pretty.

  • @kaydunk3149

    @kaydunk3149

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@djrjboston as a matter of fact me either, but she has been looking scrumptious lately 😍

  • @gucciguhh
    @gucciguhh2 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who gets the vibe that Stephanie be cappin? Lol

  • @wqross
    @wqross2 жыл бұрын

    Angela: Y’all care about romance? Everyone: Romance!? 😭😂

  • @qas9546
    @qas95462 жыл бұрын

    A woman knows a woman’s body better than anyone else.

  • @bashanwashington4801

    @bashanwashington4801

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what every woman says lol. It's a Lie. Half of these girls don't even know how to please a man but for some reason they know how to please a woman. No it's 🧢. If you know what you doing you just know what you doing. Man or Woman.

  • @asialoveee04
    @asialoveee042 жыл бұрын

    Stephanie!!! I know yo ass wasn’t sleep at 32:17 wake that ass up 😂😂😂😂😩😩😂😂

  • @victorshavers6604
    @victorshavers66042 жыл бұрын

    It was cool 😎 seeing yawl with n without make up... accept for Angela cause yu look really good without

  • @IvryRose
    @IvryRose2 жыл бұрын

    Dream One Of The Best🔥🔥🔥

  • @4biz
    @4biz2 жыл бұрын

    HEY YEE.SAW U ON KZread&ON UR KZread CHANNEL.HAD TO JOIN UP.

  • @NECIWOOTEN
    @NECIWOOTEN2 жыл бұрын

    BRUUUUUH SO WHEN THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT LIKING GAY PORN MEN AND WOMEN I FELT AT HOME AND HAD TO SUBSCRIBE LMAO......I LOVE IT HERE!!!!!

  • @bashanwashington4801

    @bashanwashington4801

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wtf you like gay men porn? Y'all women these days freaking ass hell 😂😂

  • @NalaBalenciaga
    @NalaBalenciaga2 жыл бұрын

    Dream must be with a touchMeNot studs cause ain’t no way no lesbian not getting no head and is perfectly fine lol

  • @AMPRSND

    @AMPRSND

    2 жыл бұрын

    Frfr

  • @dlondonx3018

    @dlondonx3018

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts 🤣

  • @tamalawattree2415
    @tamalawattree24152 жыл бұрын

    Where is L’Oréal? Is her and Angela Yee not friends anymore?

  • @scarmarvel4810
    @scarmarvel48102 жыл бұрын

    Dream not lying about the wallet 😂😂😂 im still carrying mines

  • @beautifulsoul4521
    @beautifulsoul45212 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know one dream doll song, cute young lady tho!

  • @itsnaeswayy9896
    @itsnaeswayy98962 жыл бұрын

    anyone else notice how shawty next to dream doll mad boring an wanted to be down so bad she was draggin the störy lol

  • @rocioriveraaa

    @rocioriveraaa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes 😫 pretty but boring

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