Railroads who store locomotives long-term, often remove the horn off of the roof so that they are not stolen. In some cases they’re put inside the cab in other cases they’re put in the housing of the locomotive next to the air compressor. I know that UP Will store them in a railside box car or warehouse.

@Ormodius3751

2 жыл бұрын

Why would someone steal a train horn?

@themanfromcabowabo1559

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ormodius3751 To put it on their car and scare the living shit out of people.

@NERRP2017

2 жыл бұрын

It makes more sense to buy one rather than steal it, especially if that horn will be given to a more modern unit

@espeescotty

2 жыл бұрын

@@NERRP2017 Railfan and horn collectors find the horns that actually came off of a locomotive to be more desirable. To say that this horn came off of NS 2739 or KCS 3939 gives it history, actual railroading history. And the owner would be able to point at the horns in pictures of the units in service and say "there is MY horn".

@NERRP2017

2 жыл бұрын

@@espeescotty that is true but not everywhere you can get it right of a loco without getting caught which is why I’d prefer to buy one as it’s a bit more legal

Even as an adult who knows trains are always on "Private Property", there is always an Urge to climb aboard.

@themanfromcabowabo1559

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought that was an obligation.

@Ozarkrailfanprod8098

Жыл бұрын

Ngl ive done it

@tablerockrailfan5078

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@TPB-OPA

Жыл бұрын

I’ve actually tried firing up one of these😂😂😂😂

The KCS Southern Belle paint scheme is one of my favorite paint schemes along with the Santa Fe Warbonnet paint schemes on their old Dash units

Many times I saw those MACs in México and they were amazing...

These has been stored for a while, they were first parked in Barnesville Ga before being moved to Thomaston Ga🚂🚂 People steals these horns so they remove the horns…. Great video thank you!!!!

@jordansewell8790

2 жыл бұрын

Yep NS drops them off for CPR to pickup. CPR's lone Geep has to move them in blocks due to the sheer dead weight.

I do know that over the summer metra rail in Chicago approved the purchase of used engines to replace it's older engines and to increase its engines on hand. Hope this is where they are going

@frankgrimes591

2 жыл бұрын

Makes complete sense. Progress Rail aka old EMD in LaGrange IL supposedly doing the retrofitting

I think the reason why there is no horns on the locomotives because they don't want the horns being stolen off of the engines

@beeble2003

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, popular target for thieves.

Great video! I've heard that the MACs may return to KCS rails after a maximum of 3 years after the CP-KCS merger is complete, but that may not happen. As for the M-2s, several may end up being sold off to smaller lines, a few have already been delivered to the New Brunswick Southern.

@JoseMartinez-ge3gh

2 жыл бұрын

Some of the MAC's were sold, like thee 3941 that was sold to SSRX.

@dyllahn7858

Жыл бұрын

They might be re build to have ac traction motors

I Agree 100% that the KCS Red/Yellow/Black Color Design was the Most Attractive ever painted. 👍

The Southern Belle Has To Be In My Top 2 Favorite Locomotive Paint Jobs

I noticed them a few weeks ago driving thru there. I didn't have the time to stop by.

I used to drive to work along the KCS line thru north Dallas back in the 90s. I found it interesting that the first Southern Belle schemes I saw were I believe SD 45s or something. The SD70s were still grey ghosts at the time. I caught a TFM loco once and had to hunt one down in HO scale. I guess KCS started rebuilds of the 45s before the 70s.

Wow What A Sight!! I agree Southern Belle paint is one of the best! Great Video! Thanks..

The majority of the SD70M-2s are billed for scrap. A few are still in the process of being sold or trying to be sold. As for the MACs, a few are set to return to KCS at some point while the rest will remain on PRLX for their SD70MAC-H rebuilds for metra or scrapped. KCS has already got back some of their old MACs as well, and spray painted the KCS lettering on the hood of their own locos.

This reminds me of the Iowa Traction RR in Mason City. Union Pacific pays them to store rolling stock on the old trolley lines

@beeble2003

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of short lines make a good fraction of their money storing cars.

I Never Knew That It Was Called The Southern Belle. But Seriously It Has To Be My Second If Not Most Favorite Livery Right Up There With FWWR’s Paint Scheme

Retail price on Leslie and Nathan horns are $3,500 and up. They're easy to remove. Send a mechanic to do it before the thieves have a chance.

@mshum538

2 жыл бұрын

Very easy, we use to clean the diaphragms while sitting waiting on a train meet or a known delay…..nothing worst than a whistle that can’t blow its own nose…….ms~~~

Always been a fan of the KCS southern belle paint scheme and the Iowa interstate road pain scheme

Awesome job Charlie. I hope to visit down there soon. The MAC’s & the M-2’s are both some of my favorite models. Keep up the awesome work.

@douglasvillerailfan3994

2 жыл бұрын

Where down there are these at ?

@ARP_GA

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasvillerailfan3994, down at Thomaston, GA. Charlie said the town was about 65 miles south of Atlanta.

@douglasvillerailfan3994

2 жыл бұрын

I know that lol i meant where in thomaston lol

@ARP_GA

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasvillerailfan3994, I really do not know.

@jordansewell8790

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasvillerailfan3994 Drive down through Thomaston with a sharp eye & You won't miss them especially in the Winter. Just DO NOT Trespass as Charlie said. This is all past the live customers down at the end of the line essentially.

Those poor SD70's. I hope they get new life. Awesome video btw

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great story...we would pass through Thomaston to visit our grandkids. Thank you.

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@niftytheundying

Жыл бұрын

visit us jerry (not ur grand kids, the entire city of thomaston)

Another legendary well done I saw a bunch of them out in the desert in Arizona great video by carpetbagger

Thanks for a most informative video that offers both on the ground as well as aerial footage.

@v12productions

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Just wow those engines very cool

I visited this spot yesterday. Most units had horns inside the cab and were placed either in the back behind the engineer’s seat or down in the nose. Some of the units were unlocked and we were able to sit in the engineer’s seat. Most of the numberboards for these units were either gone or broken, and some of the six-axle units’ windows were broken out. Some of the road switchers’ windows were broken out as well. Some units had graffiti, and other units actually had doors taken off and parts missing from the interior where the engine is. I’m assuming people sometimes take the metal from these locomotives and use it as scrap metal to get some extra cash, but who really knows. All I know is that these locomotives make for really neat photos.

Awesome! Keep up the great work

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I own these SD70M-2's and SD70MACs in g scale versions at Mountain View Elementary Middle School in Union West Virginia.

It's too bad that you didn't get all the Locomotive numbers before their hauled off to their new destination. I'm a Model Railroader, & have a lot of SSW, SP, SPSF, D&RGW, BNSF, & many more... I look for accuracy, & that every locomotive & car, are authentic, on my lines, but I do have a few that are fantasy ("What if it did happen!" types & If only types!) So if you could, when going out & seeing these Locomotives that are stored, some of us would love to have the road numbers, for us whom are handicapped, & can't go anywhere 😔! Thank you for your videos, as I am a rail fan, & I like, & love trains. If you see an SSW, D&RGW, or SP... It was all owned by Southern Pacific Lines before it's merger in 1996! They're a rare Gem to find out there! I appreciate your videos. Gives me something to watch!

I live in Griffin not too far from Thomaston and I never knew these were there. Great video!

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Now i know where the trains were coming from! I could hear some off in the distance when traffic was low when i lived just south of Zebulon, GA. I never knew about the storage yard! UGh!

@jordansewell8790

2 жыл бұрын

You're hearing CPR actually make their customer runs several times a week probably. They have at least 3 businesses still active down that line.

Nice shots. Don't get to see much power in storage up north here.

Interesting story -- thanks

Very informative. Good job.

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This is awesome ! I live north of Thomaston in Barnesville, Ga . I came down & took a quick video, & then found your KZread . Thank you for this !

@v12productions

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I'm sure most people that visit train channels are aware, but for those that aren't: PRLX is basically a "used car dealer" for locos (they may have other rolling stock too, but I am not aware of any offhand). They do sales, leasing and parting out. They do not have a livery of their own so it's not uncommon to see a loco in factory paint with the name and reporting marks painted over and the PRLX mark spray painted on the side. It's a little crude, but hey it's cheap.

@Slim_Slid

4 ай бұрын

PRLX actually did have a paint scheme of their own... It was used on the SD70AH-T4's demonstrators several years ago while they were being leased out to KCS.They used a nice livery on some worthless units that were based on already failed units...

@greyshadow9498

4 ай бұрын

@@Slim_Slid That's awesome, not sure I have ever seen it, will have to look that up!

Cool and not so cool video at the same time, In my opinion I wished all the GE T3 & T4 units were sitting in storage instead. Thanks for documenting what's being stored.

Great Video! Well informative.

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I went past this last week. Thanks for the video

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I caught the NS SD70M-2s #2754, and 2721 on NS 127 on May 2021, and it made me so sad to see them go, they were very powerful locomotives then but then PSR hit

@MatthewPowell509

2 жыл бұрын

Try riding in one, there pretty loud in the cab, and they ride like crap. They led to the SD70ACe, there better off being sold off and being stored than being used by NS.

@cody8217

2 жыл бұрын

They are junk. Better in a scrapyard.

@ejdsndnj

2 жыл бұрын

@@cody8217 do you have a favorite locomotive

@cody8217

2 жыл бұрын

@@ejdsndnj yeah, the one that I'm not on when I'm on my rest day

@ejdsndnj

2 жыл бұрын

@@cody8217 ok

Love this, it very cool to see all of these EMD beast here but it is always a sad time for railfaning seeing a locomotive that you grew up with just vanishing from the rails it gonna be a sad day when the ACe, Gevos and other tier 2-3 locomotive go away, and then you got the p42 coming up in there last year's so hopefully the futures bright

@richharris9489

2 жыл бұрын

It sucks i love these engines

@THE_IRON_HORSE

2 жыл бұрын

@@richharris9489 but with Norfolk southern buying new SD70ACEs with T4 engine and ge still going strong these locomotives are gonna be hear for a long time :)

@richharris9489

2 жыл бұрын

Jelly bean you know ge is part of wabtec right ?

@THE_IRON_HORSE

2 жыл бұрын

@@richharris9489 yes of course

@richharris9489

2 жыл бұрын

I work for ge in lynn Massachusetts. Aviation.

Awesome video!

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@railfanningthesoutheast8318

2 жыл бұрын

@@v12productions your welcome!

The hartwell also has a bunch of older power going back to the mid 50s

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

I'll probably do a video about that soon.

Adam’s Auctions is based out of Belleville, IL, near St. Louis, MO. They also sell Real Estate, etc. 👍

@Unknown_Ooh

Жыл бұрын

Trains and real estate - an interesting mix lol

It’s pretty cool watching this because i live in barnesville and work in thomaston and I’ve passed and stopped and looked at them Engine before

Great video. I’ve already subscribed to your channel. But watching this made me double check. I love the 70MACs.

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that! Thanks!

The SD70M-2s are back in service on NS

Stored or ditched? The terrible situation.

Nice job.

It’s sad to see this kind of thing. The UK has its fair share of loco storage yards (Crewe, Leicester, Loughborough) , where there’s lines and lines of Class 56/60 diesel-electrics from the 1970s/1980s displaced by the Class 66 in the late 90s. Crewe sidings also have a few Class 90 AC electric locos stored. In a sorry state, but stored.

Nice and why does kcs not use them

There used to be a huge number of engines in Arizona but recent Google Earth images reveal the area to be free of any engines. At one time the line of engines was miles long totaling way more than 100 but they are all now gone.

Correction. All KCS MAC's were EX TFM except 3974 (Ex BNSF 8945) Which was traded from BNSF in exchange for one of their MAC's BNSF wrecked on their Rails, also only 75 were built, TFM 1600 -1674 which were built in London Ontario

@AbelG8781

2 жыл бұрын

KCS guy for sure

@omarhorcasitas6860

2 жыл бұрын

Buenas noches Estás SD 70Macs De TFM fueron ensambladas en México en Cd. Sahagún HGO. Saludos.

@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@omarhorcasitas6860 huh. I swore i saw a photo online of like 10 of em when new that came from London ON. I did find out TFM 1674 was wrecked or something, never did become KCS 3974

I am a train 🚆and I approve this video!!!!

if the engines were missing their horns, it makes me wonder if some or all of the internal equipment we can't see has also been removed from them. Parts would last longer if kept in secure storage where thieves have a much harder time getting at them. While it's not often talked about, there are people who will steal valuable parts for their metal content. It's just a fact of life. Hopefully that's not happening here.

Miss seeing those KCS MACs roaming around my area. Especially the ghosts.

I think we should preserve the NS SD70M-2'S.

So cool but at the same time, so sad… hoping something can happen to have most of these back in the rails!

I live in Thomaston ga! I know exactly where these are!

I live out here in Barnesville by the cpr tracks I never knew these were abandoned out here kinda want to go see them

They could be awaiting AC conversion by progress or rebuild by some other company but what do I know.

@wafflesnfalafel1

2 жыл бұрын

I'll bet you are right - given these are all EMD and all somewhat similar use units it could very well be a collection for rebuild. Could explain why all the horns have been pulled too.

@jordansewell8790

2 жыл бұрын

@@wafflesnfalafel1 Unlikely PRLX loves to cut stuff up lol. Scrap prices are crazy right now. Just research the SD80MACs disposals.

@Pimpdaddy_payne

2 жыл бұрын

@@wafflesnfalafel1, I’m surprised Norfolk Southern didn’t do it themselves at Juniata. They sure love rebuilding older locomotives and converting DC to AC

@Pimpdaddy_payne

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordansewell8790, that’s also a possibility lol

Damn now there's another auction I'm gonna have to attend. Bring my suitcase full of money

Crazy that locos made in 06 are sitting but a lot of companies are still using sd40-2, gp38+40. Engines that are 2-3 times older then that

Those trains were here for a few months but have moved now.

Nice, great camera work! Any photos for people like me to use as a screensaver?

might go there..

The second I saw the 2600 series number on that EMD, I smiled ear-to-ear. There's still a chance for Eastern railfans to catch a pre-Raised Letter K5LLA.

Sc/sd 70's are my favorite engine, Something about the body lines. I don't care for the fairings on the rest.

Wow this is cool I think the SD70-2 NS units are gonna be rebuilt to the New NS SD70ACEs coming soon 1225 - 1234

@mauricesmith8545

2 жыл бұрын

No, those are new built units coming from Muncie. They were actually built in 2019 but nobody took them. The KCS units I think were meant to be used as cores for the Metra SD70MAC rebuilds

@jordansewell8790

2 жыл бұрын

@@mauricesmith8545 Spot on but that Metra plan has been on & off to my knowledge. One day someone will make up their minds. Some could be up there already.

Most of these engines are not outfitted with PTC hardware and so they are at best B-units. They also fall below Tier 4 emissions compliance which means they are due for a rebuild before they can hit the road. So with all the work needed to update them it was cheaper to discard them at scrap value to Progress Rail who will likely convert them into the next Genset series of engines.

@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606

Жыл бұрын

That’s only for new locomotives, older locomotives and trucks are grandfathered into compliance, most states only require tier 2 compliance so these units could still be used, but yes they lack PTC and cannot be used in territory with PTC

Oh so this is where those long lines of SD70M2s went.

i was up there not too long ago and we are pretty sure all the horns are stored in the cabs of the loco's.

I wonder if cp plans on doing anything with those stored KCS engines. I know progress rail was doing the paint for the other rebuilt CP sd70s. Correct me if I’m wrong tho!

RIP locos

I'm surprised they don't rebuild those KCS SD70s. NS rebuilt some 2700s into the 1800s. Maybe they just rebuild enough to keep Progress Rail afloat.

Hell all I have to do is walk out my front door and see the things, the red yellow & black ones at least.

I also have a question: why do most of the units have "PRLX" on them, and why are some of the units (NS) the behind logo is blacked out? Are some of these units leasers?

THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO SIR , Abdul Rashid WAZIRABAD PAKISTAN

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I’m on central of GA

UP has probably close to 200 engines setting here in Topeka. All of them look to be EMD. Anyone know why?

It’s very likely too these locomotives are being stored awaiting disposition

Hard to tell between SD70M and SD70MAC? I always referred to the radiators

It’s a shame to see so many EMD loco’s not “making the cut”. Oh well…

Hola quería saber que paso con esas sd70mac de kcs si siguen hay o si las recuperado la nueva cpkc 👀

It’s so strange watching railroads in 20 years literally storing dash 9 models, 70macs, etc. they barely feel used

If it has PRLX, "do not fuel" on the fuel tank, and no horn, that's probably bad news.

There's NS SD70M-2 #2707.

What will happen with all these engines?

I would think they are not 'stored'. They are a form of trash that a corporation doesn't want to deal with. I can imagine there might be an expense to getting rid of all these old locomotives. That expense is something for the future to deal with. For now, it is out of sight, out of mind. Tags left on some from their 'auction'? Does that mean they were sold for scrap to another company? If that company goes out of business the cleanup expense will become a public expense someday.

@dianestevenson4996

11 ай бұрын

Just like the cotton mills

@dianestevenson4996

11 ай бұрын

Abandoned

Well dne!

Private property? If you have a Bell and Howell on a tripod, you're a friendly wave.

Aww they’re sleeping

Hi there, excellent video. I'm from Scotland and I'm really interested in North American Railroads. It seems all the big railroad companies seem to favour GE locos these days compared to EMD. Why is this?

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's a really good question. I'm not 100% sure. I think it may come down to affordability and financing, but I'd want an expert to weigh in.

@cody8217

2 жыл бұрын

@@v12productions because GE's are leaps and bounds better. They are quieter, ride better, pull better and harder, have better electronic packages, etc. I hate when they stick me with anything EMD, and most of the engineers out here strongly dislike them. You can't even have a conversation in them, they are so loud. The only advantage is the EMD cabs have a little more room in them.

Kcs is a smaller rail company still going ... im a union pacific head... Norfolk southern operate up and down the east coast..80 percent of the their freight is coal..I'm a true train fan

CP Rail should buy some of the SD70MACs

I can't believe they don't store them all running. 😁

Are those trains are lost and found train?

Whether KCS NS or PRLX I own these locomotives.

Could this be having to do with the global supply chain woes, due to the covid pandemic?

Thomaston is where I live. But where are they stored at ?

@v12productions

2 жыл бұрын

Most of them were on Hugo Starling Drive.

I live in tomesten end i been he and went insid one