Here’s the thing, I met Carl and Lindsay separately at Bravocon. Carl was amazing, kind, generous, and Lindsay was COOOOLD. I’m big on energy and I Carl was amazing.

@Free420Love

3 ай бұрын

Yup. The people in these comments make me scared for the people in their lives. They are excusing and defending outright abusive behavior…likely because they exhibit that exact same behavior themselves.

@meganreardon5381

3 ай бұрын

Saw her at LaGuardia 2 weeks ago- COLD

@prodigalson1870

3 ай бұрын

@@Free420LoveShut up Danielle. You’re equally as pathological

@megan_sea3

2 ай бұрын

I can sense this exactly through the tv screen. Lindsey has always given me high anxiety. She knows how to play a room. Carl, especially through his mental health and sobriety journey, has found himself and uncovered peace in his life.

Not Lindsay acting like she isn't one of the most toxic personality types anyone could ever be in a relationship with. Everyone around her tried to voice this to her last year and she was exploding on everyone. Now she's miss innocent. Please.

@tavaresleora4286

3 ай бұрын

THAT PART

@marienieto6608

15 күн бұрын

THANK YOU! longtime viewer of summer house and I’m shocked at the narrative I’m seeing of poor Lindsay 😮 like have these people watched the show at all?? Not saying Carl is innocent by no means but I really don’t think there’s anything he could’ve done differently when ending it that wouldn’t have made her cry victim

@hunterandolive2693

15 күн бұрын

@@marienieto6608 Facts. She just took the Ariana playbook and RANNNNNN. If I had time, I'd make a video on all the things she has literally copied that Ariana did during her breakup in an attempt to turn this into her path to instant global fame. She went on a PR campaign INSTANTLY when they broke up, even though the season wasn't airing, using some of the same words to describe her situation that Ariana used. She was attempting to capitalize on this but she forgot we've seen the show for several years. Even her outfit choice to "meet the girls" in that last episode was deliberate... the sweatsuit? She literally even attempted to recreate Arianas outfit... the cozy "I'm heartbroken" sweatsuit with no makeup even though we're filming this days later...please.

@irenetsomidis2167

7 күн бұрын

@@hunterandolive2693Only difference, Ariana’s was genuine!

Lindsey is the biggest RED FLAG & GASLIGHTING ON BRAVO 😂😂😂 She's NOT a good person & it's clear that Carl's family didn't like her. She's controlling & has ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY; it's laughable if anyone believes her story 😂😂😂

@megan_sea3

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree!

Narcissists go on a smear campaign. She is claiming he gaslit her? Laughable!

@mayap6623

3 ай бұрын

if we're being fair - Carl has also gone on a smear campaign ever since he got bad press from how he broke up with her. With the show premiering, they're both obviously going to talk and share their sides.

@lillybethford1915

3 ай бұрын

Bingo.🎯👍

@kristenfreiburger1000

3 ай бұрын

@@mayap6623 for sure, they are going to be asked questions. Lindsay loves it though, you can tell.

@kshejohnson9207

3 ай бұрын

The people who u all label a narcissist like Lindsay, Tom Scandavol proves that u have never in life met someone with real diagnosed npd. It takes a medical diagnosis, not from watching them on TV for 30min a week. Lindsay doesn't even almost meet the traits. Nor does she have the childhood. Some people are just arrogant, liars, cheaters whatever. Not everyone is a narcissist. It gets much much worse than Lindsay.

@conniekrebsbach2641

3 ай бұрын

He is out there as well. If you watch the show Carl has a history of being a gaslighter

Lindsey was very committed to achieving certain milestones - marriage and kids that she wanted it with anyone. Glad they both dodged bullets.

@StancyInTheCity

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t consider Carl anyone. They’ve been friends for a decade. Do you call that just anyone? What is your definition of anyone? It’s obvious that this was her best friend for many many years and they fell in love. I don’t think Carl was a hostage. In one of the previews, he talks about her, not trusting his sobriety. I think any loved one would focus on their partners sobriety if it’s only been one year.

@Free420Love

3 ай бұрын

@@StancyInTheCityyet she TREATED him like he was just another dude she could pressure into checking off her little timeline life goals IMMEDIATELY, when he was newly sober, and literally everyone, including her, knew that ALL of the things she was pressuring him to do, immediately getting serious, immediately pushing to get engaged (& she definitely planned it herself for the cameras, Paige was spot on), even mentioning in the trailer, before they’re even married, about how she has to do this & that this summer, because she (“I”) might be pregnant next summer. Wtf. He shouldn’t have even been in a relationship, let alone engaged & about to married, and be talking about having a kid within the next year. Absolutely reckless. She’s always been only about The Lindsay Show; everything is all about her, all the time. The staged, fake therapy appointments she’s forced us to endure the past two seasons are laughable. She’s the only person on the show that hasn’t grown an ounce with her emotional, and overall, immaturity, and complete lack of control of her emotions, particularly her explosive anger/temper. Regardless of everything else, anyway…this relationship was never going to work with Carl being sober and Lindsay being a mean, combative drunk who constantly demeaned and insulted Carl ON CAMERA when she was drinking…we saw it with our own eyes, and she was probably reeling it in because she *was* aware there were cameras. And still acted like that. How do you think that escalation goes at HOME?

@theresaterry164

3 ай бұрын

@@StancyInTheCity I definitely don’t think Carl was any prize, I think they both dodged very big bullets.

Lindsay joins the ranks of such toxic Bravolebreties as Lisa R, Erika J and Teresa G. All of these women spend their time gaslighting the audience trying to convince us not to trust what we've seen with our own eyes. In Lindsay's case, we have seen since Summer House started her systematic emasculation of every partner she has ever been with. A man hurt her very badly when she was young, preventing her from developing healthy relationships with potential partners. Alcohol plays a large part in the destruction of her relationships as well. Compare Lindsay's behavior since the break up and Carl's. Carl has remained silent since he called off the wedding, confident that the record will show what really happened. Lindsay, a publicist by trade, has made it her mission to get out her warped version of events out prior to the season starting. But Bravo has turned on her in the promos, showing Carl expressing his concern that Lindsay will act as if she is completely blindsided by the news, then showing Lindsay on the phone, squeaking to her dad that she is completely blindsided by the news. It will all play out. Carl dodged a bullet and until Lindsay gets help for your unresolved issues, we will continue to see her kill every relationship she gets into. She takes men hostage.

@mcmc8959

3 ай бұрын

Erika J isnt Toxic.... she actually is the star of the show... you karens just dont like her because u are ultra woke

@badm972

3 ай бұрын

Do you think calling someone ultra woke is an insult? Is that supposed to hurt my feelings? What are you in grade school? Keep tying @@mcmc8959 so far you're batting at zero.

@k8tzz03

3 ай бұрын

Don t watch then boo tf 😂

@badm972

3 ай бұрын

So don't watch if you don't like someone? Why do that? That makes now sense? Love everyone else. @@k8tzz03

@badm972

3 ай бұрын

You act as if calling someone ultra woke is an insult. That all you got? What are you, in kindergarten? Triggering you is so easy. I live for it. @@mcmc8959

PLEASE bring on Carl for his side

@RealityTvLover

3 ай бұрын

Nah. He’s trying to run a narrative that Lindz is evil for asking if he was high . She knows the signs. So for him to act all offended is wrong , imo.

@ajr3770

3 ай бұрын

What the guy Lindsay supported through all the shit he was going through at Loverboy, and now he’s BACK working with them and blaming her for the rift? The guy cant lie straight in bed.

@tylerperry2252

3 ай бұрын

Nah don’t need it

@Free420Love

3 ай бұрын

ew. Making wild accusations against your now years-long sober FIANCÉ, who has worked so hard for his sobriety, especially in the face of dealing with an emotionally unstable, abusive, and manipulative partner, solely because she wasn’t getting her way, and he wasn’t doing exactly what She wanted, and was doing exactly what he said he wanted to and showing people that you can be sober and still be allowed to have fun, that he doesn’t have to always be Serious Carl, sitting out on the sidelines while everyone else has a good time, just because he isn’t drinking. He’s made a point several times of saying how much stereotypes against recovering people are bothersome to him, and that he wanted to use the show to show people that you don’t have to give up your personality or your ability to have genuine happiness and fun, just because you’re staying sober and in control of yourself. That’s an immediate, incredibly hurtful accusation she made, out of nowhere, yelling and screaming at him “what are you on!?” repeatedly? Yeah, hard no. Hilarious of you to think she could recognize anyone’s “signs”, when she can’t even admit she has a problem of her own. Once again, Lindsey goes into her “classic”🤢 mode: deflect, deflect, accuse someone who isn’t even doing anything of doing something to try and take the heat off of her, deflect, deflect, deflect.

@sh.boogies

3 ай бұрын

@@RealityTvLoverLindsay is a blackout drunk who accused him because she was on one but ok?! lol

Ending a relationship is not a mutual (or civil) decision; are people supposed to consult with us before breaking up with us? That's beyond ridiculous. People have the right to exit a relationship for the reason they see fit, how they see fit, move on,

I don’t think Lindsay sees or hears herself. She lacks so much self awareness. Carl didn’t blindside her but she has to tell the world that to protect her ego. Lindsay lives in Lindsay world. She didn’t want to marry Carl, she just wanted to be married. There’s a difference.

So Carl told her how his Stepdad felt like he wouldn't marry them and Linds continues to pretends everything was fine and she was completely blind sided. Riiiiight. Lol

Lindsay is a toxic mess and a hub of red flags galore herself. For PR person she has always done terrible job with her own image. It's a win for Carl to get rid of her.

@megan_sea3

2 ай бұрын

Agreed!!!

KZread-only watcher here! Wish I could show my appreciation when Spotify Wrapped time comes around but I don't miss any episodes lol

@ChicksintheOffice

3 ай бұрын

🫶🫶🫶

@dakotasmith5559

3 ай бұрын

same here!!

@amyarnold037

3 ай бұрын

Same !!

Lindsay can never keep a boyfriend, she's always in the center of drama, but it's always someone else's fault. Lindsay, maybe YOU are the problem.

There she goes. Projecting. If anything, it is Carl who ignored the Red Flags of Lindsay 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 Glad he finally woke up from the Koolaid and called it off. Dodged a bullet!

@stephaniespain9849

3 ай бұрын

I just posted the same thing!! I totally agree

@stephaniespain9849

3 ай бұрын

@@nameless.faceless.why do we have to get over the Lindsey hate?

@lillybethford1915

3 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree.👍 Carl should’ve taken note, when she treated her long time friend (Danielle) without empathy. He may not be perfect, but Lindsey is toxic from the core.

That's rich because we all couldn't ignore all of Lindsays if we tried... It's just unhinged to be dragging him when he clearly was unhappy with her from the start and she just kept pushing it. I know it's "a show" but after that season watching her compete for Austen's attention this outcome surprised me very little. She needed this time to heal herself, let's try to learn and grow from it without blame.

@KA-eu9sy

3 ай бұрын

Night of her birthday that episode was wild and vile! She made sure Ciara didn't get Austen. Hoarded him for herself. Then went out and brought a strange man into her room and banged him! What a classy broad Lindsay is. Carl was nuts to think she is marriage material and be a mother to his children. Super glad he called it off.

getting my hair done next month and can't decide if i'm gonna go with the Ria or the Fran...both of you guys are major inspo with the hair 🤌🏻

Look, I don’t kno Lindsey, the person, only what she chooses to present to us as her “reality”. From get, she’s always been the highly aggressive one with Every 1 of her cast members. She’s the personification of that book “How to make enemies and lose friends “ 😢. I’m sad for her but I’m happy for Carl who’s gone thru hell and back (brother loss, sobriety). It’s not fair she buries his character every chance she gets. Btw, did she get amnesia on how she treated Danielle, her supposed BFF last season? Or terrorizing all the girls with screaming and antics? Look at how these same SH amazing girls showed up for her, Lindsey would’ve NEVVAH done that for them! Period. I hope she gets some self awareness and learn how to be a real girls friend and not sooo narcissistic. Hope she finds a dude who can take the punches she will land every time. I’m sad for her, maybe therapy 😢

I think things were good until Lindsay started drinking again. Carl is sober, and I think her drinking was too much for him to take

@theresaterry164

3 ай бұрын

I think it was because Lindsay is a horrible,mean drunk. Carl I give him Credit for being calm and cool. Lindsay outright lied. So for Lindsay to save face she lied and said it was because Carl wasn’t sober, yet he was!

Look up Borderline Personality and you’ll understand Lindsey. I hope she gets help but they say people with Borderline always think they are right.

Lindsay is a walking big red flag herself let's be honest.

She's ridiculous everyone seeks advice from someone when going thru things she had no problem being that person for Carl when he was having difficulties w/ Kyle (dont tell me the situations are different cause while the scenarios are the situation is the same) Lindsay just hated that she couldnt control and manipulate Carl first which is exactly y he probably needed the cameras present cause we've all seen how she twists things

She is the one with red flags... She is a narcissist and she is also is a control freak and thinks people should bow down to her!!! I love Carl...I know we don't know them from TV however I do see that he is one person on that show that has made great efforts to improve and work on himself each year and he is very honest about his faults and he is not confrontational which we know she is... She starts fights over sandwiches....I mean my gosh!!!

Was a podcast only listener on my commutes back in the day and then switched to KZread post covid now that I work from home…cant imagine going back I loveeee the videos!!!

Just watched the most recent episode of summer house and Lindsay accused him of being on drugs which is super fucked up. She’s very self centred and only cares about her feelings is what I’ve seen. Carl is not perfect and definitely has flaws no doubt. He can admit when he is wrong and he seems to have grown throughout the seasons.

These comments are so weird, Lindsay is not perfect at all but the level of hatred toward her (when yall literally don’t know her) is weird. I’m not a Carl or Lindsay stan at all but the dislike of Lindsay is odd

She a huge red flag 🚩

We all understand why Carl called the Wedding off. Its hysterical that she is saying she was blind-sided. Her behavior is toxic AF. Carl dodged a bullet.

I loved the energy from these trivia guests 😂😂

Between Ria and Lindsay, this show is triggering me to get highlights! 😍

What about her red flags?

Please bring on Carl 🙏🏽🙏🏽 Also, Fran… can we get jacket deets?!?

Lindsay is a drunk who became increasingly difficult to deal with as a sober man. Period. I can't wait to see this play out so the Linds loyalists hopefully wake up.

Frannn, where is this jacket from!?

I’m so sorry for your sister Ria 😣 Sending love ❤❤

@user-qy8sx3ds3x

3 ай бұрын

What happened to her sister?

@chelsea5595

3 ай бұрын

@@user-qy8sx3ds3x she talks about it in the beginning her sister had an emergency c section and had a very bad experience

@jahsimmeryl2286

3 ай бұрын

Yay sending love here

@chelsea5595

3 ай бұрын

@@user-qy8sx3ds3x she had an emergency c-section and it was a very traumatic experience it sounds like unfortunately

@chelsea5595

3 ай бұрын

@@jahsimmeryl2286 yay?

KZread watcher only! Also in regards to Travis visiting Taylor I think he will be going a lot but people have to be realistic. You saw his season, non-NFL fans learned they can't do much during the season because it's so strict, so their offseason is filled with plans like team and/or charity events, vacations, times with family and friends and especially for Travis some commercials etc. Even Donna has said in an interview she doesn't see her sons that much during the offseason. Seems like fans are also forgetting that Taylor was able to go to a lot of games because she was off, but still didn't go to every game she was available for and the games she did go to, she would stay for a day and then fly back to New York to hang out and go to dinner with her friends...when she could've stayed in KC. So people need to relax and let them enjoy their choices.

That's what most women do ! Both of them were different people. Opposites attract but never last ! They will be wayyy happier :)

I became an aunt at 17 so i had that realization Ria had at an early age.

Lindsey is a walking red flag. 🚩 😳

Speech therapist here! Ria, if you want your name to be one of the first that baby Luca can say, I’ll give ya the common first speech sounds that baby will be able to make! p, b, m, w, t, d Looks like Uncle Matty’s in better shape lol 😉

@vsfam5vsfam5

3 ай бұрын

Yes! Fran knows. Lol. Ria is more likely to be called Auntie Wee Wee. 😂

I loved those trivia guests. Bring em in again 😂

I've watched every season of summer house she is the red flag

I love watching even if I can't watch all the time I still put it on

Congrats 🎊🎉

Yuck she is so toxic, Lindsey is the bright red flag

Being an aunt is the best

@adish7275

3 ай бұрын

Being a mom is a 1000 times better

@sarahkessler2456

3 ай бұрын

@@adish7275I can agree.

LINDSAY LOYAL? WHEN? WITH DANIELLE?😂 WITH WHO?

Is that the dress Lindsay wore for her engagement on the beach? I remember shoulder pads!

@denisekinzle1672

3 ай бұрын

She said she had it in other colors

Lindsey says “like” way too much.

Hi new listener here, no love is blind recap ?

@ChicksintheOffice

3 ай бұрын

Coming Monday! Giving the people time to catch up

Like , like , like 😂😂😂😂.... just glad they both are moving on honestly

Haha the pronunciation of Melbourne is not wrong. It's just the American English way of pronouncing it. We don't pronounce London or Paris the way the locals do it haha

Carl if you look at all the past shows was Not a Great Communicator!

It’s so interesting that for a man tall can be their entire personality. But if a woman is tall, it’s definitely a hindrance, I know!😢

Yea this didn't age well. Watching episode 2, you can see how horrible she was. She just in general seems to not be a genuinely good human being. And I can see why Carl had to end it.

Says the giant red flag on fire flaming across the universe upside down and twisted in knots!! Like zero chance anyone believes her and anyone who says that they understand her is lying. Absolute worst but hey she wins the narcissist Oscar! So there’s that

More like Carl missed Lindsay’s red flags.

enoughhhh with the shoulder pad, cut-out dresses. enough.

@shiddity

3 ай бұрын

The outfit is cute but not for this podcast...too much

It blows my mind how women think Lindsay is to blame? I believe Carl was not ready rushed putting a ring on it n unfortunately it didn't work out. Lindsay is to blame for everything n it's sad to see. Just like Kyle gaslighting Amanda it is wat it is with Kyle n Amanda settled. I don't think Carl will ever be ready for a relationship n he is using Lindsay's past too make ppl feel sorry for him n he acts like she is now going to tell the world lies about him but I don't believe him. I think he just was not ready needs to find his own voice in every relationship including friendships n he would sleep a lot better at night. Even with Kyle he was not happy with the job n working for Kyle instead of saying it he became uncomfortable tried to run away from it n then finally Lindsay trying to tell him to be honest with Kyle she was blamed for Carl not wanting to work for him anymore when clearly Carl was done before he got with Lindsay.

Everyone judging before we actually see and hear for ourselves how the season progresses and Carl and Lindsay implode.

@alicehatch1001

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

Hey, have you listened to the Retrievals podcast?? Your sister should ask for an investigation regarding the anaesthesia. Many women experienced procedures without anesthesia because a nurse was giving patients saline instead of pain meds. I hope your sister heals well. Also, I've seen a baby come out of the womb, and did not freak out like this... And crazy complications happened also. You have BabyRabies.

whats with the pepsi?

aunt ri ri and uncle matty 🥹🥹🥹🥹

I felt somewhat sad for her when I heard the story of her and Carl. But watching the season opener that disappear fast. Can't stand either of them but for this I'm team Carl. Witch is painful to say. She's always been toxic why are you giving her a platform to speak can't stand her

Kids can’t say r’s so it will be aunt wi wi for the longest which is cute too

Watching you stare on your phone at 49 mins. Almost nothing interesting has been discussed in an hour. I'm never drinking Coors Light again.

LINDSAY WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO "DIDN'T" SEE 👀 THIS RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT WORK🤦🏾‍♀️

This is my first time watching this podcast. Do these guys listen to their own podcasts? 37mins in and literally nothing has happened. Also even if ppl are on a reality series, they are not obligated to you or your nosey demands about their personal details. That's pretty gross. They are real ppl with real children and their decisions have lifelong consequences. Feedback: you never pronounce your letter Ts 🤔

@theresaterry164

3 ай бұрын

I had to fast forward…..

loveeee Lindsay!

RIA you are way nicer than I would be with fedex - please let them HEAR IT from you cause they should feel awful for making you pick it up that should NEVER be acceptable lol and they should get in trouble

She’s a strong one, love HubbHouse ❤❤❤

Carlllll! ….Jimmmy!

lmao ria, "at least a week".

Is it me or did Lindsey seemed annoyed with them asking her questions. Like why did she come on if she wasn’t going to answer anything

Lindsay will always be judged. She's a beautiful, strong, intelligent woman. Im always the "bad woman " for being strong , attractive, and knowing what i want/need.

@WabiSabi1959

3 ай бұрын

Not so intelligent.

@kriss3015

3 ай бұрын

I feel like that's something someone says who has the same awful qualities

She is a liar…she needs control…

ria really out here giving me baby fever

Get ready for activated Lindsey

The way Carl called production …… was a dick move. I think they both dodged 💣

Accusing someone of being on drugs when they’re sober bc you are trying to deflect from your drunken behavior is NOT something normal couples go through. This chick is so delusional

Carl might have red flags, but Lindsey IS THE red flag. This girl is outlandishly pathological. Stop propping her up.

Stop 😂

I wonder if you looked up Lindsey’s lineage. If you would find traces of her family from the Cruella Deville era? Or maybe Ursula? At any rate, she is definitely a narcissist.

One thing you can say about Lindsay - atleast she's not boring AF ! Kyle and Amanda have got to be the most boring people on TV . Kyle's whiny voice just grates on the nerves like nails on a chalkboard .

She’s a train wreck but I still like her.

Hay when ever even if you’re face don’t move pep is 🍒

Lyndsey and Tom Sandoval need to get togerher

@You-got-to-be-kidding

3 ай бұрын

😂 I said the same thing not too long ago. But you can’t have 2 Negative to make a positive. She could try AI? Maybe then she could create the perfect man that would obey her every command.

Lindsay, we don't buy it.

She is the biggest narcissist on bravo. Why are you giving women like this a platform! Maybe watch the show again!! Shame!

I don't care what anyone says. I know she is not perfect. The fact he didn't tell her and told the cameras first was so brutal and I am hating how people are judging her now. He will relapse and Lindsay was on to something. Amanda and Kyle have the most toxic relationship ever and no one holds either cast member to task, but Lindsay who didn't get a proper engagement because of the jealousy of every other person in the house, was human to have gotten uptight and freaked out. I think that she felt Carl was being fake or disloyal and because she was drunk and loyalty is her biggest thing, and she thought he must have relapsed because he was being so friendly or fake compared to what he'd said to her. He owed Lindsay more just as a friend to end it kindly and its cruel to do it on camera. I think Lindsay will cop the blame because she always will. Carl needs to work on Carl. Lindsay needs a deeply loyal and comforting lover. Shes not perfect but this was handled so poorly and Carl has been framing Lindsay as a bad person, from his first episode this season because he knew what he was going to do. And he knew this so acted in a way making the audience want to give their support.

This was a waste of time! Talking about anything other than breakup!

She will always be single.

How on earth does this podcast have nearly 200k subscribers?? Ugh.. so bad

@ajr3770

3 ай бұрын

Bye bye!

Aw can’t stand watching women showing no emotion 😐 not refreshing