Awesome! Thanks for joying me Misha! Was a pleasure to take you out!

@juanpaVlz

Жыл бұрын

Very nice driving, the downshifts seemed very smooth and perfectly executed

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

@@juanpaVlz ❤thanks

@x2jzdave668

Жыл бұрын

Is it worth getting the satchshift for it, really in two minds on fitting one on my loeb

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

@@x2jzdave668 in my opinion, a short shift linkage would be enough. However the, Satchell shifter is superior to that. To answer. Yes, it's worth it

@x2jzdave668

Жыл бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography I had a go in a 205 gti with one and it felt like the best gear change ever, but anything will feel better than the standard pudding stirrer😂

Nothing looked slow in this lap :O Please, let more people bring their pocket rockets to the Ring!

As an owner of this little car i am very pleased see one on your Channel

This car makes the most of 125 hp! You two must have had great fun!

this car is really effective when driven, I would have aimed to add some horsepower to your stock engine. You have to give power to take advantage of the braking system you put in! my C2 had 187hp, so I was able to get a lot of satisfaction, even if it would have served a nice LSD.

@NicolaasPhotography

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, fair point. Could do with a bit more power. I went for the handling mods instead. Really makes the car come alive.

@kedi2176

14 күн бұрын

how did you get 187hp?

One of the car I loved driving the most. Bucket seat with harnesses is one of the best mods (with a proper steering wheel) for this little hot hatch. Extremely funny, especially thanks to the fact it's pretty easy to drive at its limit. A friend of mine tuned one of these with pretty similar setup and asked me to make a proper ECU tuning on it, so I had the possibility to test out pretty hard engine and chassis of this little french toy. I literally fell in love with it after the first corner. I liked a lot the pedals position, it's pretty easy to perform heel and toe also during hard driving! Glad to see one of these on this Channel

I had a C2 VTR and it was a awesome car for drive ❤

In Portugal we call these the C2 Cup , it started with the Saxo Cup( know as the 1.6 VTS outside of Portugal, his preceder), to celebrate the national Rally trophies, but most people prefer to do the c2 engine swap in the swap to the saxo because of being a lighter and better handling chassis, improving the weight/power ratio and being better at receiving upgrades like cams, pistons from citroen/ Peugeot sport

@amdimilker5773

Жыл бұрын

What kind of setup would you prefer for swap?

@pedrogomes2554

Жыл бұрын

@@amdimilker5773 c2 engine, a CatCam higher lobe/duration camshaft, ITB’s, 4-2-1 exhaust headers, 63mm exhaust with ressonator and PTS muffler (all its the correct ecu should be around 40hp or more

@amdimilker5773

Жыл бұрын

@@pedrogomes2554 I really want a c2 with a turbo

@pedrogomes2554

11 ай бұрын

@@amdimilker5773 you can and use extra weight to get extra grip of the c2 to get a bit more traction

I don´t own this particular car but I can relate a lot to this video. Had a MK2 Saxo VTS Cup 1.6 16 valves and boy oh boy words can´t describe how much I miss that little rocket. This video reminded me of that car, I believe the C2 VTS has the same engine with just minor differences in the internals. Loved how the Saxo handled the corners. Mine was 100% stock, the engine was healthy, the only thing i´ve changed was the tires to get more grip. I think that people don´t understand how much potencial these little frenetic french cars have in the right hands. There is something about high revving natural aspirated engines and light cars! Track days on that car were a blast, and in twisties roads that car could outrun some big boys. I own a 99 Impreza GT Prodrive now, it´s a great car don´t get me wrong but man, that little Saxo :D Great video as always Misha, and congrats on that amazing fun car Nicolaas! Have fun and drive safe.

@bluedark_polo

Жыл бұрын

Já estava a achar estranho não encontrar nenhum tuga com saxo cup aqui nos comentários 😂😂 carros muito bons para andar no ring

@guilhermeribeiro3770

Жыл бұрын

@@bluedark_polo Hahahaha grande patrão Francisco. Eu acho que tuga que é tuga tem que ter pelo menos andado num Cup/106 GTI 😂😂 Acredito que sim, deve ser uma experiência incrível e penso que dá um tracktool espetacular, têm muito que explorar. Pena que muitos carritos destes estão nas mãos de quem só anda com eles para a frente. Ensinou-me muita coisa o Cup, foi uma escolinha. O mais importante ensinou-me a ir aos meus limites e aos do carro sem nunca perder o respeito ao carro.

@solitaryclusterofneurons598

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I own a C2 Loeb myself (VTS trim variant). Off the line, you'd be outrun by just about everything in a straight line, but come into some twisties and you'd be shocked with the cars you can get held up by! I regularly come across dudes who think they're hot shit in their relatively new M Sport BMW's, Audi's, Golfs etc showing off accelerating hard off the lights, but then when the corners come up, I catch up in an instant, and I'm held up by them stuck behind their rear bumpers. The F2/Kit Car/S1600 lineage of these small French hatches really does show in the corners. Always good to humble these types with only a 16 year old Citroen and some skill

@hobizoli

3 ай бұрын

C2 engine has more torque at 3500-4000rpms region

Excellent . Nice to see another low cost / budget type build. More of these please 👍

Ah this brings back memories. it was my first car back in 2006 and the one i popped my Nurburgring cherry with. The stock brakes faded during the first lap but I still had a blast. The mechanicals were bulletproof 40k and no issues and I gave that thing hell. A fun little car. 🙂

nice ride Misha! good luck this new year

Im pretty sure its a fun daily small sport car :) Ofc on a big track like nurburgring it feels underpowered Pretty cool you show us alot of different cars keep it like this Misha

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

It just happens to be a daily driver aswell...

@Jonas-hh9fu

Жыл бұрын

I have the same car but heavily modified, it’s basically a road legal c2 r2 with just around 150-155hp. It’s just perfect for the narrow mountain roads in the Black Forest. So much fun, character and speed for such little money.

@zoltanjuhasz8198

Жыл бұрын

@@Jonas-hh9fu where do you drive it in the black forrest? I also drive in Black Forrest with my saxo vts 16v 😀 I would be happy to drive with other vts's in the black forrest :)

@Jonas-hh9fu

Жыл бұрын

@@zoltanjuhasz8198 in Bad Säckingen, its at the Rhein between Waldshut and Basel. Directly at the border to Switzerland

What a hoot of a little car, friends wonder why I own little fast cars & this is the reason, their just so much fun, & you don't really break the speed limit very often, great young fella & awesome little car, Rj in Oz

So many summer laps still. Good stuff.

Living the momentum life and doing a good job at it. Hopefully he can enjoy many laps like these.

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

🤙🏼and I sure have!

That was Epic, awesome little motor, Nice quick lap Nicolaas, Enjoy watching the little rocket

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Cheers bud!

I just love this kind of cars!!! small cars, easy to handle.. and most importantly fun!

Very smooth lap! Nothing better than driving a slow car fast :)

@0xas

Жыл бұрын

Why slow, I could keep up with new 911GT3 on a very very windy and narrow route. Got 150bhp on 840kg, lsd with A052 on Bilstein group N. It is always funny to compete with obviously faster and more expensive cars.

What’s fun with these small cars, if they are well set up with the right tires and suspensions, you can send it hard all the time in every corner almost. So yes it’s slower but you are having fun!

Need a tiny turbo... Or maybe some weird camshaft setup

It’s going to take a while to go through you library, but it always cheers me up.

love this small car content :)

Looks like fun! Perhaps not as good a driver as you but he knew how to send it! And that's a cool car in my eyes. I had the ax GT and that thing ripped for the 1.4 it was packing. It had been modified quite significantly and I could keep up with my mates golf with over 300bhp - big turbo and intercooler system.

@NicolaasPhotography

4 ай бұрын

Nowhere near Misha, he's a much better driver than I am.

My boss bought this car couple days ago for pizza delivery! It's awesome and everyone loves to drive it

Oh man i had 1.6 C2 VTR semi automatic 110 HP it was plan to go on Nurburgring but i had shifter problem sadly (C2 VTR owners will know) but i am happy to some C2 on track.

Very interesting channel, thanks for the content!!

i loveeee those type of cars man haha so much fun!!

I own one... these are very under rated cars very nippy too

Great drive, talking and driving, what’s most important, having fun! Did you have any gearbox problems, they’re known for failing on this engine unfortunately, however ppl say it’s reliable car for track also!

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Hi Uroš, thanks! The gearbox only failed once on my car. Overal, pretty good I think.

Nice. There quite a quick car. Not a bad lap. ✌

Very nice lap and good to see all kind of cars on your channel Micha. To me it seems like it doesn't have 125hp anymore but I could be wrong of course. I would expect it should easily reach 160 and 180 on the long straight or is it because of going up hill 🙂

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Ah, yes... It had 125hp or PS at some point... but I suspect not any more...

@TheSkyline35

Жыл бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography seemed a bit slow yes, I went with a Honda CRZ this year, so 124hp with hybrid, 114hp if batteries are empty and yet I reached the same top speeds without trying as hard ! Impressive drive nevertheless!!

@ThatOldGrey

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSkyline35 Have you calculated for pancakes? 😁

@TheSkyline35

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatOldGrey Pancakes always AFTER the laps ahah, but the CRZ is a car easily +150kg over a C2 so 😅😅

@jerkzao

Жыл бұрын

This engine has its peak torque and power at lower RPM than most 16v engines, add that to a short ratio gearbox and at high speeds the engine starts to struggle.

i have c2 too! really nice car for beginners

The tach gauge reminds me of the doctors play set from the 80's for some reason 😂

Great point made by the driver, better to learn the lines in a slower car first, good advice. So many people rock up in fast cars and drive slow as they don’t know the track, me included and that’s why I’ve bought a Clio RS 200 cup for this years trips and leaving the 911 on the drive at home.

TU5J4 120hp SAXO, C2, is the brother that TU5JP4 110cv 206. I think the owner drive smooth and chill in track

@NicolaasPhotography

4 ай бұрын

First off, thank!! TU5JP4S, NFS different head compared to the engine in the Saxo

Looks like a fun car!

Some air......weeeeee hahah had me in stitches 😂👍 brilliant

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

🤣🙌🏼🙌🏼

Dang, Misha ! You’re the first guy that I see in my favourite T-shirt

I love my VTS to bits! Fun-to-price factor is just unbeatable. And I love the faces of people in way more expensive and more powerful sedans or SUVs when they’re overtaken by this little bugger.

@NicolaasPhotography

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree!

I got a clapped C3, but seng those numbers on a dashboard I see everyday made my day hahaha

Nice ^^ i think there's still some weiightsaving with the flywheel possible wich in turn would incurage the pedaltechniek ^^

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Correct!

I love your content and I can only dream of driving such cars that you do. Probably never will since I'm in a wheelchair but never say never. 😂 Happy new year!

@serbangardina277

8 ай бұрын

Maybe some sort of automatic? ☺️

Thank God! It’s VTS

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Has to be!

We have a c4 vts in the family and it's a cracker as well. One thing with it though is the awkward pedal position. I find it nearly impossible to heel and toe with it. Brilliant car otherwise.

I had the C2 Code which is 6sp manual, same power than the VTS, 125bhp in stock form, weirdly a tailgate.... I loved that car, it was awsome little runaround. (edit: Just a 5 speed not 6)

@mechanic_from_uk

Жыл бұрын

Which gearbox was fitted on it? c2 VTS doesn't come with 6sp gearbox from factory

@OllieW501

Жыл бұрын

@@mechanic_from_uk it was the special addition "Code", you're right, just looked it up, it was only a 5 speed. Here's a video on it kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6NqxNSAqMLTdco.html&ab_channel=JayEmmonCars I had the same hideous seat colour but mine was black metalic paint. Great little car.

That's a nice car to learn the nurburgring!

I'm kinda getting 7Up GTI vibes from this C2 which is awesome! Not a lot of power, not many quirks but mostly just good chasis and driver. Exactly what its all about.

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

❤🙌🏼 Doesn't need to many mods either

@royliber3824

Жыл бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography I love the fact you left everything under the hood all original and focused more on handling. It's what counts in track days for sure

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

@@royliber3824 cheers bud! In my oppion it's what matters most with these little cars.

Ich habe den C2 VTR und der macht mega spass. Ich überlege ob ich mir den C2 VTS kaufe und den dann aufbaue mit bodykit Fahrwerk Chip tuning usw.

It was actually doing more overtakes than I expected: good........of were some other TFers sleeping? 😃

13/59 gear ratio, lighter flywheel, smaller disc, 195/50-15 tyres and wheels, head work or cam change, 60mm exhaust with 4-1 or 4-2-1 headers and it will be much more fun and faster.

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

It's possible! Not sure if I'll do those specific mods... For now, I like the setup

That rear harness mounting looks sketchy. I would really consider different mounting point

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

It's been altered already

Next one to test twingo RS !

That must be the lap with the highest percentage WOT so far :)

@NicolaasPhotography

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha! Yeah.. Doesn't get half decent mileage on track at all. Daily driving gets me around 500/600km per fill up of about 30-35L where on track the cars computers says it will get around 180-210km of range depending on the track.

@emirmontazeri

10 ай бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotographyMan that is mind blowing! I have a 206 with 1.6 16V engine, with a four speed auto and I roughly get around 270km per 30-35L on daily drives. Since the C2 & 206 are both based on same platform, I would like to know what engine does yours have and whether you have done any modifications to it or not. And also what octane fuel do you use?

@NicolaasPhotography

10 ай бұрын

@@emirmontazeri I run an OEM airbox and run the car on 98 or 95 E5 octane. Besides that the C2 has 5 speed manual transmission. It's got coilovers suspension, semi slick tires and a big brake kit on the front.

@emirmontazeri

10 ай бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography Wow that’s great! So I guess it’s the fuel that makes all the difference. The best fuel I can get in my country is barely 87 octane. And also that’s a very solid build my friend. Thank you for the enjoyable lap and your explanations🤍.

@NicolaasPhotography

10 ай бұрын

@@emirmontazeri anytime!

lil hot hatches for live 🚗💥

So fun

more cars like this on the channel  👍

hi! if you see a citroen C1 test it out on the race track!

For me, small cars are WAY more fun to drive fast. Especially with skinny tyres 😁

Give old mate a fast car. He can handle it.

Ballsy and skilled driving

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

❤thanks

Small cat, big send!

That thing looks not that bad 😂👌

Somos muchos españoles los que te seguimos.👍 podrías activar los subtítulos en español?muchas gracias.

Nice car and loved the lap. No disrespect to the young driver. I would have loved Sabine to drive this ❤

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

❤

I have this car new back then in 2009 and Im love it .Pocket rocket on the narow twisty roads take skalp much bigger and faster cars.Oh I love this car

We wann a see a 106 gti too

What are those harnesses with a single attachment point in the back called? Where can i find more information?

@NicolaasPhotography

11 ай бұрын

Can't recommend. Get proper belts

Can someone please explain the harness setup?

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

It's been changed already

Never forget a small ones! ;-)

Fun little car. My honda civic ex 1996 with 125 hp stock with same redline would have blown the doors off of this one.

@axamitidynamit8355

8 ай бұрын

You’d be surprised 😂 this driver just does not make the best use of it.

Good video

@lollypop9580

Жыл бұрын

Good comment

Pocket rocket!!

Push push pushhhh 😍😍

I have this car in automatic its fun on the road

@axamitidynamit8355

8 ай бұрын

VTS in automatic?

@Mairou44

5 ай бұрын

Vtr auto

VROOM VROOM!!!

Hey, Does anyone know if the Vts or Code came with cruise control in UK/EUROPE ?? Really want one but i need CC

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

They didn't come with CC, however of the phase II cars it a question of getting a CC module, and programming the car for. Literally checking a box, and it should work.

Definitely a momentum car lol.

Je savait même pas que le c2 était un vts le 16s je connais pas le vts

Do a saxo VTS true rally machine

Have One...most probably my impression ...but this C2 looks slower than normal

@axamitidynamit8355

8 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

lekker paul

Nice lap, although there is definitly more in the car. With the mods, he should have been going faster in the corners. When the tires complained, he wastn't going that fast. Alignment issues? I would have loved to see Misha drive this car. He would have wrung out a faster time, and showed the river what the car is capable of. OR picked up how the alignment is holding the car back.

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It would have a been a fair amount of work to adjust the seat for Misha!😅 The alignment was fairly aggressive. It slowed down the car on the straights a little. What also didn't help, is that the engine was down on compression...😪

@raullasvegas

Жыл бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography It was a great lap! I really enjoyed it. THere is more in that car. Im sure you will find it. 😀

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

@@raullasvegas sure is! This lap was around 10 minutes flat, my quickest recorded lap is around 1 minute and 5 seconds faster

Needs a steering wheel upgrade, but otherwise great car!

Vous êtes pas obligés de toutes les casser nos Citroën 16s ❤

you brake too early and not enough with your left foot to keep power with your right foot, maybe the tires are too big and I didn't remember that the power was so high in the rpm 🤔😬

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Possible, my comfort and expirence aren't at that level yet, if I'm honest. Max power is around 6.5k rpm

Not quite sure what all that crunchy noise is between 4.5 and 5.5k rpm

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

The shifter rattling away

Jakis oficjalny czas C2 Vts?

@NicolaasPhotography

6 ай бұрын

There is no offical time for time.

i got a Citroen C2 VTR

@NicolaasPhotography

4 ай бұрын

Also great fun!

Gotta check the cylinder pressures. Seems like doesn't has 125hp.

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

It is not. Engine wasn't too healthy anymore.

i dont know why these cars hasnt a 6 speed gearbox as an option too, to have more torque in a gear at the wheels....this also uphills slowing down

@NicolaasPhotography

3 ай бұрын

Indeed! A six speed would have been nice

@hobizoli

3 ай бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography....anyway: get an LSD in it :P

@hobizoli

3 ай бұрын

@@NicolaasPhotography...or just install a NOS system, to have some extra power when it reqiures uphills

@NicolaasPhotography

3 ай бұрын

@@hobizoli 😆😆 NOS at the NOS😆👌🏼

@NicolaasPhotography

3 ай бұрын

@@hobizoli an LSD would be great. Got an LSD mechanism installed now.

👍🙂👍

If u coached him Misha there's at least 10 seconds there. Minimum

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Someone Misha knows coached me, ha!😅 My PB, if there is even a PB on TF is faster than this current lap.

Kleine auto's zijn leuk voor op de Nordschleife, hele andere skills nodig dan "pedal to the metal" met veel PK's.

😎😎👌👌🙌🙌👍👍🏁🏁

i really do miss C2, i lost it to a crash on the highway because of some random bullshit after a tight corner and i had to save other drivers and not go down the bridge(20m+ high) so i just banged it against the rails, really sad

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Sad to hear!

I'm surprised it made it round

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

After all, it is French 🤣

@christianrnnov4873

Жыл бұрын

You dont know any things of cars when you say that. French cars has always made the best gti small cars. Its only because in your eyes its only german cars. German cars is too heavy and you cant make a GTI with high weight thats why french cars is more fun its all about weight. Its not a gti with a weight of 1400-1500 kg like at golf r.

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

@@christianrnnov4873 Being silly my man, it's a joke

I know you like driving cars to it limit. Why not a real challenge drive any SUV brand just a regular SUV that you buy at the Dealership no modification and test it out on the track. Then tell us how good it is I recall you did drive a Van one time. So you up to the New challenge in the year 2023.

you in the car is additional +- 90kg of mechanical downforce...more grip, thats good :D:D:D

Good car for sure... But... Seems extremely slow (straight line)

@NicolaasPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Sadly uphill it is not very exciting...