BTS with DTS on a vintage Mercedes?! What could possibly make for a better Christmas gift eh?! Thanks Derek, for continuing to share your knowledge and passion with us for yet another year! Looking forward to 2024!

@michaelschneider-

4 ай бұрын

+1 Copy that. .. Re; 1994 E-320 C124 Coupe.

@tomfurstyfield

4 ай бұрын

I got bad news for you he's not continuing on ISSIMI

@derekheeps1244

3 ай бұрын

A W201 , or any other modern Mercedes is NOT a vintage car : the term Vintage applies to any motor car built between 1st January 1919 up to 30th December 1930 . The likes of W201 and W124 cars can be referred to as Classic Cars , or Youngtimers as is becoming accepted on the continent .

@griffins750

3 ай бұрын

@@derekheeps1244 Jesus Christ and I thought I was a carmudgeon 😂

I hope Derek continues to make these films as part of his new venture.

@hottub2249

4 ай бұрын

What?!? He’s going away??😢

@RetardsOfPaloAlto

4 ай бұрын

@@hottub2249 (15:15) of the Two Cars & General Update Curmudgeon episode from 3 weeks ago for told story But yes, no longer used car salesman but dealer

@yonypanofsky2763

4 ай бұрын

​@hottub2249 seriously?? WTF?

@Wirenfeldt1990

4 ай бұрын

@@hottub2249he will be getting a dealers license and starting for himself in the new year AFAIK.. they mentioned it on the podcast..

@hottub2249

4 ай бұрын

@@yonypanofsky2763 clearly I’m lost!

couldn’t have asked for a more Derek video as a sendoff from ISSIMI. happy holidays, DTS, and good luck with your business endeavors 🎉

@spongeborgtheford4971

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Makes me sad there won't be any more. I perk up every time I see a new one released.

@yonypanofsky2763

4 ай бұрын

What happened?

@coopersRyan

4 ай бұрын

He started or is starting his own dealership

Great review on one of my dream cars. I had a 2.3-16 as a daily driver for 16 years and loved every minute of it. You absolutely nailed it in your video when you say it's a bit clunky and unremarkable at normal speeds but comes alive as you start to cane it. My car (named "Marlena" - she was German, had a square head, & sang a sweet song!) had the same trait although she was "only" a 2.3. The harder we went the more I had the feeling I was dancing with her and the better her song became. I always got annoyed with road tests because I don't think the journalists ever drove hard enough to appreciate this side of the car. Sadly I had to sell Marlena in 2016 for financial reasons and I must admit I shed a tear when she left. Still miss her - best car ever.

@duncanhamilton5841

4 ай бұрын

This was my feeling with my '86 2.3-16 - that chassis was remarkably delicate, precise, and poised... but only once you drove it on the door handles. Anything less than 8/10ths and it was a bit wooden. Genuinely, the one car I wish I'd kept.

@930Tony

4 ай бұрын

how gay

Owning car #146 of the 500 was an honor. I’ve yet to slide a car that has that level of balance.

@Dirkietje8

4 ай бұрын

Jealous! I drive a C220 CDI Sportcoupe, but these race Mercedeses are my absolute dreams of cars. Gawd dayum Mercedes made some real beauts back then.

@Skipjack14

4 ай бұрын

Nobody needed to know these numbers, even though they are very impressive... A gentleman never tells.

@commandohazelnuts

4 ай бұрын

Are you Ashton Ellis or Shaun Platinum? Tall claims to make in a KZread comment section full of probably the most aggressive Mercedes-Benz fans online.

@commandohazelnuts

4 ай бұрын

@@Motosmostwanted ok

@commandohazelnuts

3 ай бұрын

@@Motosmostwanted You are trying so hard to make me believe you. You obviously didn't own that car, ever. If you did, you wouldn't need to convince me that you bought a quarter million dollar 35 year old Mercedes. Unless that is the pinnacle of your life, which in that case, that's pathetic. Or you're lying, which is equally pathetic.

I am always struck by the beauty of the filming location you have found for these pieces.

@bmwe30armo

4 ай бұрын

california is like no other place on earth

@borntodieworldisafuck

4 ай бұрын

Looks a whole lot like the santa cruz mountains

@claudiomarangone614

4 ай бұрын

@@bmwe30armo go to Italy

@HardRoad2Travel

3 ай бұрын

@@borntodieworldisafuckSanta Cruz is highly likely, based on ISSIMI’s location, but I also wonder if in some videos they are shot in perhaps Sonoma or Mendo. Edit: Just noticed Alice’s showing up in one cut - Santa Cruz it is…

The most Hyphen Christmas gift possible. Talking about an old Mercedes. Happy Holidays!

Lived in Germany from 88 to 92. There was a Volkswagen dealer across the street from the building my family lived in. I remember seeing one of these Evo 2s parked there while walking our dog. Spent a good long while admiring that car.

Great piece and a good reminder that Mercedes was once a great company.

I never knew there could be someone who could capture the beauty of this piece of art. That's the only car that has remained a dream since childhood. The body shape, the front grill to headlight proportion. The interior. Everything even the base 1.8 model for example is beautiful. And the heritage it carries... such an outstanding car.

This is by far the BEST content from your channel so far! Not focusing on chit-chat or giving us only the drive-by views / talking heads. This stuff is gold - it gives you the epiphany of loving the car that started it all, along with the E30 M3 (I am a BMW guy), AND the history around it. During this now modern weird time of car journalists focusing on touchscreens inside the car instead of *Driving Feel* is very different. And just trust me on this - there are people who actually care on Driving. Not just moving from place A to place B.

I believe that you and Jason, and production teams behind you, are making some of the best content available! Bravo Sirs! Thanks for all the time, research, archival footage and beauty shots that you assemble to make such great films.

Saved the best for last. Couldn’t have asked for a better final BTS, the automotive hobby is going to miss DTS’s poetic lines while absolutely caning a classic around a forest backroad!

Love the drive through the redwoods and the truly beautiful 190E Evo. I’ve taken my E500 on that exact same road. It’s magical.

The 3 spikes wooden stearing wheel is the go-to for a 190. My aunt had a 190e with the 2.3l 16v with a 3 spikes wooden stearing wheel. It was white and for some reason it had the BMW stripes (light ble, blue, red) on it on the corner of the hood and trunk. Beautiful 16" BBS aluminium rims with 225 55 tires on it. It was such a beauty

One of the best looking cars ever made imo. Iconic

Been waiting for this video for years. DTS is easily one of my favorite automotive reviewers.

This is an EXCEPTIONAL video. Everything from the research and archival footage, to the writing and presentation, to the camera work and editing, are top-notch. And you could not have picked a better or more evocative location. Some of the best drives I've ever had were through those redwood forests. Such a shame about Big Basin...

The "Yakuza Special", it's an amazing car in every way.

This will always be a special car to me. Watching Klaus Ludwig race it live in DTM when I was a kid is something I will never forget.

Absolutely loved it! Derek has a talent of telling the story, lots of history and details mixed in with how the car feels to drive and to the eye plus the crazy nice scenery, he makes it just right. Awesome work DTS, love the episodes, ride safe!

Never knew, but am dam happy to learn, about the wing/window cheat. 👍👍

Speechless. I love this era, this car, and these videos. Thank you so much!

Your videos are criminally under viewed. Freaking impressive.

Gran Turismo first made me aware of this car, and then made me love this car. There are lots of cool AMG's, but this is the only Mercedes I want to own. Forever.

Lovely video. Thanks. I have always loved the W201. I almost got the crazy 6 cylinder E300 that sounded like a mini muscle car. These things were well made.

This has been a wonderful series Derek! Good luck and best wishes with your new venture. I think we’d all love to see more BTS With DTS under any name moving forward. Happy New Year sir!

This car is the benchmark for both compact 4-door styling and performance. The body kit and wheel diameter on the Evo II are pretty close to perfect. No cartoonish air dams and polished, deep-dish wheels but just enough to mount competent rubber and fit decent brakes. Magnificent.

This is a beautiful video about one of my favorite cars out there! Great visuals from the past and stunning ones as you drive through your iconic forest. Thanks for this video!

Those old racing footage are so cool! Thanks for the video. This is so well done.

An old friend had one of these stashed away for years before they made it roadworthy again. I respect the hell out of that dream.

Love all the historic development videos and photos. Very interesting, Nice work!! 👍

One of my customers took me out in a brand new 2.3-16 before I knew what it was. First time I had experienced anti-lock brakes, on a roundabout. I remember how well it was built, the Recaros, how well it moved, smooth and the revs and noise. Stunning car. (I bought a 968CS however)

What an amazing video! Lovely deep dive on the Evo 2 truly conveying how this car makes you feel.

So beautifully presented! Being a 190 16v Enthusiast for almost 25 years, and owning a small colletion of these cars here in Europe I was thinking "seen them all". But I saw few pictures (Race of champions) first time in my life. Yes Evo's are such a tempting cars, build back in a day, when engineers ruled the Mercedes-Benz factory and not the accounting managers like later on! Taking it for a spin is not like meeting an old friend, for me every new drive (mostly on sunny sundays) is more like going on your first date, feelings overwhelmed with performance unrivaled by the cars of the era. I am not 100% sure, but I think that some of the world speed records from the Nardo test track stay to this day. Thanks fot this video and cheers!

Still plenty of 190E's on the road here in Germany. They just don't build them like they used to. 300E was one of the best vehicles I ever had the pleasure of driving.

Awesome, awesome film, Derek! Content like this reinvigorates me and makes me remember WHY I've loved cars since I was a kid. Thank you so much for this wonderful Christmas gift. All of my ex's are gone...but my Benz is still in the garage. 😅

What a wonderful film! Thank you, sir! ❤

Thank you so much for this, Derek ❤

Derek another great episode of BTS, hope to see more from you in the future on YT, have a great holiday and awesome 2024. I wish you all the success on your new adventures and can't wait to hear more from you and Jason on The Carmudgeon Show

Im so thankful I got to experience this series before it came to a close. Absolutely fantastic job with literally all of them. Sad to see DTS go but excited for his future endeavors

I’ve always loved this car because I’ve always had a soft spot for Mercedes, but this video has deepened my love and appreciation for it. Thank you.

I think this may be my favorite BTS with DTS. What an incredible car.

I remember hitting 250km/h going downhill and the bonnet shaking....many many moons ago...

Mille grazie, Hyphen. Video fantastico. Macchina fantastica. E anche è la tua! 👍🏼❤️ Buon Natale e grazie per il regalo. 🎁

DTS does DTM! Awesome work as always. I've heard Jason talk about his 2.3-16 relentlessly but never realized there were so many differences with the 2.5 16 and also the evo 1 & 2. I really hope you go into more detail on the next carmudgeon. Who am I kidding, when it comes to Saco Mercedes when do you not spend an entire episode talking about it lol

Another home run! Keep 'em coming, DTS!

well done sir,,,,well done. A proper video about a true Mercedes legend.

Derek, don't tell Jason but I prefer BTS to the much flashier, sensational Icons episodes. Sometimes simplicity and subtly result in a more pleasurable experience.

@timmietz

4 ай бұрын

LOL. We gotta have them both!

@JasonCammisa

4 ай бұрын

Mmmhmm.

@dannyferguson9415

4 ай бұрын

@@JasonCammisa A truly Carmudgeonlly reply!

Amazing history lesson and incredibly fun rollers. Well done.

Thanks Derek for showing us your feelings for the car. A buddy of mine had one and today is devastated he sold it years ago.

Such a Brilliant car, top 5 for me, Thank You, Love the channel! Always excellent content!

Magic, simply magic. Thank you for this brilliant video.

The ending corner shot , just brilliant

Such a wonderful wonderful wonderful video! Thank you so much!

Probably the best video ever made for this car!

Thank you guys for this video! 👏👏👏 Bravo!

Great episode! Stunning footage! What I’d give to drive one

Gorgeous video for a gorgeous car. Well done all around.

This is a high quality video beautifully done.

I have always admired these cars, in an interview with Aryton Senna he was so happy driving the Benz. Hard to find a Evo 2, and being a E class fan. I have found a S124(Wagon) going to install a AMG E63 motor and getting a 6 speed ZF transmission installed. This video is amazing and shows how great Mercedes is and 1980’s-1990’s was pinnacle in my view of different models that were made as functional and rigid body but not hurt the passenger.

Awesome video!!! I loved it. Good research and info on one of the cars that caught my teenage dreams.

Awesome video and filming of an iconic car.

Awesome video & lovely car. I always forget about this car, then I get reminded of how amazing it is, and then again try to forget about it because of how rare & expensive it is...

Thank you for sharing another masterpiece. You're right, the question is painful: what could Mercedes have done if they had focused that engineering pedigree on sports cars...

Thanks, Derek for more awesome content before the end of the year and your new venture. Excellent video as always. It shows what happens when two great companies compete. The consumer wins.

@MTechn1k

4 ай бұрын

Also, as a BMW fanboy, I thought it was a win that Mercedes (with their automatic) stopped making sportier cars. Now I know we all lost out in what could have been.

Great video! One correction, though: The 190E Evo II is not shorter than a Ford Fiesta (Mercedes 454 cm long, Ford up to 409 cm). It is remarkably 2 cm narrower than the Fiesta, though.

we own a c124 300e and I love this car so much! Seeing your video with the 190e is just beautiful to watch. Maybe when I am a bit older I will be able to buy a 190 too. These cars back in time are masterpieces trough and trough

A fantastic video beautify shot and presented. The W201 is a magnificent car.

Awesome. Wish you’d put out more videos, scenery is beautiful and narration is so relaxing. I know you do don’t many new cars, but would love an episode on the gr Corolla. One of the only intriguing (obtainable) new cars out there imo.

Awesome video,old footage and history of this wonderful car.Mercedes are true pioneer's in technology.I love how the Evo 2.5 always features in Gran Turismo.💯👌🏻✌🏻

Thanks for the video and the research you did. Greetings from Germany 👍

I adore these cars my dad used to own 2 190 mercedes with diesel engines back in the day so this car for me remains one of the all time hero cars.

Had the alternative in the e30 //m3 evolution. Never drove the Merc but friends had one. Merc was lovely but preferred the BMW to the Merc a true full on race car. Had mine for 22 years of sublime experience along side an e34 //m5 Nurburgring Edition. That era of motorsport cars were/are absolutely sublime.

Kudos on this finale for ISSIMI. Will be looking out for more...

Great video, Derek! Nice to see you pop up in Jason's Mustang video as well!

THIS CHANNEL IS SO UNDERRATED

Thanks for the depths of your nerdiness. Inspiring for sure.

Now this a fantastic Xmas gift! What a sensational video!

Just a wonderful video. Excellent work

So sad this is the last BTS video with Derek, but so fitting that it’s a Sacco Mercedes. Was hoping to see a r129 video (other than the podcast)

This is beautiful work.

W201 is finally catching on as a timeless classic. I bought my 2.5 diesel for a bargain an have 55,000 miles put on it so far.

Hyphen and old Mercedes Hope you continue making videos in your future endeavors it’s been nice seeing this series grow!

This is awesome. + bonus points for unexpected adjective use ; )

What lens you used? Beautiful Thank you

Outstanding as always

Amazing video. Thank you.I had an 86 2.3-16 in silver. Drove it on the exact roads.

@user-qn6yt3zx3w

4 ай бұрын

What road is this?

An absolute masterpiece, what a dream car 🙌🙌🙌 great video!

Man, your research is up there. Nice work. Liked and subscribed.

@Fastvoice

4 ай бұрын

What research? The quote that it's shorter than a modern Fiesta when it's indeed nearly 50 centimeters longer? 😆

I actually learned to drive in a 190E (just the regular diesel version). The only thing I didn't like was the handbrake pedal next to the clutch. Made hill starts more complicated. In a car with a normal handbrake, you lift the clutch until you feel the bite and slowly lower the handbrake and give a little gas and off you go. Not in a 190E. First to put on the handbrake, you have to keep the brakes on, put the car in neutral, so you can lift you feet of the clutch in order to press the handbrake pedal. The handbrake release is binary, it's on or off and there is no in between. Meaning that in order to start a hill start, you start with pressing the brake and clutch pedals, slowly release the clutch until you feel the bite, at that point you have both feet on both pedals, pull the handbrake release, slowly release the brakes and also the clutch if you feel backwards movement, release the brakes completely in order to hit the accelerator pedal in order to drive away. Luckily diesels are more forgiving when it comes to clutch control. I had a good instructor and passed on first attempt (hooray!) in Feb '95, 4 months after turning 18. My first car was an Opel Kadett E and it was alive! It drank, it smoked and it humped...

Damn this'll go down as one of the all time GREAT DTM cars built for road & race.!.

Beautiful scenery, I miss these Bay Area roads 😭

Nice work Derek!

Superb video. Thanks!

As a long time owner of a Mercedes Cosworth, I can honestly say when the car is properly gone through with proper performance parts, these cars are no joke, even by today’s standards. Straight line acceleration still has room for improvement, but on the race track in the tight turns, it keeps up with many modern performance vehicles.

One of my all time favorites!

Where can we find the pics that you guys took? Looks amazing 😍

Gorgeous looking car, one of my favourites of all time. The 190 is what comes to mind when I think of Mercedes-Benz. The Germans were making brilliant cars back then. Great video, thank you for sharing 🙌

Certianly one of my DREAM CARS and one of my FAVORITE cars to SIM Race.