Lightroom or Photoshop? - Why you need to use both
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@ruiflores76725 жыл бұрын
Another great job from Marc! I went trough the Lr and Long Exposure courses from TSOP. In one, learned Lr and on other, besides the long exposure techniques, I also learned to "play" with Lr and Ps together. Thx to Marc! Excellent training courses presented by an outstanding teacher!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rui, really appreciate the comments 👍😊
@irusdev54575 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting if you compared it with some free one such as Dark room/gimp or for that matter Canon's Digital Photo Professional 4 which comes with all EOS cameras, just a thought and thanks for another great video/tutorial, as always
@bfsbev47405 жыл бұрын
I have to check your school out, learning more is always a plus!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
We'll be glad to have you on board 👍
@Noealz5 жыл бұрын
I try to stick to lightroom only, mainly because my PS skills are poop
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
👍
@cinnflowergirl4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It helped me understand what I need. I was trying to decide whether I should just get Lightroom or the Photography package Adobe offers and add more storage later. I'm excited to dig in. I appreciate you being sensitive to the editing of models. It is ubiquitous and insidious. Doing things like brightening eyes, adjusting clothes, or doing things that can easily be done with makeup are all golden. It's when the bodies start changing that the real problems occur. But I appreciate your mentioning it.
@chuckdevlin61435 жыл бұрын
I use both, but especially use PhotoShop to use "open in PS as layers and add maps in order to combine pictures into one where you use a brush on the map to add part of the underlying picture to to top picture. I have not found out how to do this in Lightroom. Thus, lightroom for basic editing and syncing a bunch of pics with same edits, then open in PS as layers.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck 👍😊
@terrymcgovern68463 жыл бұрын
This is a serious question. Please don't answer with some form of "To each his own." I want to know why anyone needs Lightroom at all if you already have Photoshop, which installs with Bridge (for organizing, kewording, star-rating, libraries, favorites folders, etc, etc.) and Adobe Camera Raw which IS Lightroom. When you have all of that, as well as Camera Raw inside of Photoshop which can be applied as a filter, what is the advantage to having another program which effectively duplicates what you already have with your Photoshop install? Why is having another Camera Raw an advantage? Obviously, if you don't have Photoshop and only need to develop and touch up raw files, Lightroom is the way yo go. But if you have Photoshop installed, why not just use the Camera Raw that came with it and skip Lightroom? Eidt: If in fact Lightroom is so much more than Camera Raw, then why not a video contrasting Lightroom with Camera Raw, instead of Lightroom and Photoshop which are entirely different programs?
@josiahbrown59604 жыл бұрын
I bought the adobe photography as an upgrade to editing on just the mobile google Snapseed. I wish I learned how to use these sooner but I’m learning. Great tutorial!
@theschoolofphotography
4 жыл бұрын
👍
@xanbloodwalker2 жыл бұрын
Intersting, Ive only ever used PS. Ill have to explore LR. It sounds like the learning curve will be less, so thats good.
@theschoolofphotography
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck 👍
@speedbird15984 жыл бұрын
I realize this is just a fact of the industry, but I genuinely think she looks more beautiful before she was retouched.
@juanperez-df1mo
3 жыл бұрын
This was great, I been tryin to find out about "lightroom cc sync settings not working" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Piyamilla Aphonic Prestige - (just google it ) ? It is a smashing one of a kind guide for discovering how to use these lightroom presets to edit your photos without the hard work. Ive heard some great things about it and my partner got amazing results with it.
@bryanevans53985 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent tutorial. Like most have said in the comments, I mainly use LR and jump to Photoshop for simple things like background swaps etc ..keep up the for work!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan 👍
@michaelroberts51603 жыл бұрын
Marc & TSOP thank you for this quick overview of Lightroom and Photoshop.
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@elies75 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I'm not that skilled in any, but I use more of Lr than Ps. Most of my use of Ps if any has to do with spot removals and rarely playing with filters
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ellie, thanks for the comments 👍
@kevinbranner18412 жыл бұрын
YOUR CAMERA QUALITY IS BANGING MAN
@thomasjcahill27985 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to doing one of your 4 day courses!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, see you soon 😊👍
@lostpov69222 жыл бұрын
I dunno ( I know this video is old) but It seems more like Photoshop is the must have. You can do 70% of what lightroom can do in photoshop as for file management im sure there's free offering that can do something similar as far as sorting and labeling photos. Though of course as you said using lightroom and photoshop is more ideal!
@dahliajoy23603 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video, it was really helpful :)
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@notleks24115 жыл бұрын
Hey, would you be able to do a video on organising your Lightroom? I see loads of options and features for organising but I've no idea how to really utilise them. Would love to see you explain how its all done.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi there is too much to that for a KZread video but we cover it in depth here www.theschoolofphotography.com/courses/lightroom-course-online Thanks
@Chinazaoge5 жыл бұрын
I'm new to photography and I'm learning photoshop
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
👍
@dovidell
4 жыл бұрын
photoshop or photoshop elements which is( IMHO ) better for entry level photographers
@aussiestephen4 жыл бұрын
I've always believed, if you can take good photos WITHOUT editing then you're a good Photographer.
@mrrohitjadhav470
3 жыл бұрын
Well you can be the best
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
Right! Why use any software for our photos? Why don't we take pictures like we used to without any alterations afterwards? Why go back and change the past/history? Isn't that cheating? Isn't that ruining photography? Photography was something that required skill years ago and now we can fix our "mistakes" or what we don't like afterwards. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to digital world. I used to shoot film years ago, and I'm thinking about getting into digital world of photography, I just have a hard time with changing what we actually capture. Thank you.
@lostpov6922
2 жыл бұрын
Well that's just one ideology...Post production is another. You can take great photos without post edits.. But you're effectively at the complete will of well "reality" your photos will always be grounded in reality (not that that's a bad thing) but it's simply the truth. Post edits allow you break free of that "reality" scope as well as save bad photos or make "ok" photos appear "great". I solemnly believe you shouldn't place limits on your self especially in a creative atmosphere it's well and fine to have a preferred way of doing things or have a taste for what you feel is best. Of course good edits start off with a good photo, someone who does post production should always strive to take the "perfect" photo because that means less "destructive fixes" and a cleaner canvas to edit/add. Which means less work ultimately.
@MarkSmith-qt7wi
2 жыл бұрын
@@EEEBA1 I also started in film with a bathroom darkroom. And we used masks, burning in, over/under developing, and many other tools in the production of our images. We didn’t consider it cheating, lazy, or unskilled. Quite the opposite.
@vivientatt5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍
@TheOkieammo5 жыл бұрын
I used Photoshop years ago when CS came out. Was doing portrait and car/bike photography. Been out of the action for some time and i am back now. Plan to get lightroom...but know hardly nothing about it. I will be heading more to the art side of photography and mixed media art. So any vids on that side i would love to see !!!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes sure, check this out www.theschoolofphotography.com/courses/lightroom-course-online Hope that helps 👍
@dilukabeylk3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍
@RondellKB3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with the bit about retouching making photos unrealistic.
@MrAtomicmachine2 жыл бұрын
How do you know or how do you decide when the photo is ready to pass from one program to another?
@theschoolofphotography
2 жыл бұрын
Just personal preference
@michaelmorgenstern55442 жыл бұрын
video seems to say you need photoshop to do things you cant in lightroom. But do you need lightroom to accomplish things you cant inside of photoshop?
@sheilakavanagh22985 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this tutorial and wonder why you didn’t mention. Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). I use ACR and photoshop (ACR is free and = LR) I would appreciate your input.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sheila, yes good question and a thought a lot of people have. ACR is pretty much the same as the develop module in LR but lacks the rest of what LR offers. Lightroom just makes a really quick and easy workflow. Hope that helps 👍
@nighwish772 жыл бұрын
Retouching models is the reason why there are so many filters used on social media. Society is still telling people what is acceptable in personal appearance. At least you admit you don’t like doing it, but have to accept the fact it’s needed.
@Hazelminker Жыл бұрын
Hello! Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Lightroom allow you to retouch things you mentioned at around the 3:00 mark as well ? I've only recently started using Lightroom myself and I've found that it allows you ( must be a recent feature ) to detect a subject and then to apply masks/Layers to different parts of the body. I could easily apply masks to iris, sclera, hair and face with the press of the "detect subject" Feature, which then allowed me to have control over those aspects, making a portrait look much like the photoshop version you presented :) . Great video comparing the two !
@theschoolofphotography
Жыл бұрын
Hi, yes there has been an update in Lr, click here for more details kzread.info/dash/bejne/X55oyreMZr3ggJs.html You can now do some face retouching in Lr but it is limited in comparison to Ps. Hope that helps 😊
@jamesetwa5 жыл бұрын
Program I like to use is Picsart to really cool program to edit pictures within do some photoshopping for people who are amateurs who don't really know how to
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍😊
@lensmanonline5 жыл бұрын
I've been using Nikon capture Nx for many years and switched to NX-D as capture NX is longer supported, NX-D is okay but for me LR is the way to go
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@dovidell4 жыл бұрын
how much memory would you recommend one has in one's computer for both programs to work to the max ( please )
@theschoolofphotography
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, you want at least 16gb. Hope that helps
@pradkphotography5 жыл бұрын
Is Photoshop just for some healing? I really do not think that Lightroom is just for some global adjustments as is clear from your other tutorials themselves. But I think Photoshop is for some geeky features to use. Other than that, you can do everything else in Lightroom, especially in landscape photography. But a great video nonetheless. And it is always pleasure to watch you.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comments. You can't do everything in Lightroom I'm afraid, in the video is an example of the difference.
3 жыл бұрын
If you not count in library feature i LR, is there something that you can only do in Lr and not in Ps?
@mallamick5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Adobe Bridge that supplements Ps which I still use and and find easier and less complicated to use than Lr.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, there's one I haven't heard in a while. I haven't used bridge since Lightroom come on the scene but good to see there is life still in it. Thanks
@woodydroneson2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks. I have tried lightroom in the past as well as other software. I only work on a series of photos at a time, usually holiday photos or days out. I personally find the copying of all of my photographs back as thumbnails that I no longer want to work on annoying. I file all of my photos onto 3 separate hard discs and put them into year folders and then folders with date and description in this format say 2021.10.31 Day Out At Spooklacular, seeing 21 years of photographs as thumbnails would drive me crazy and I am never going to want to work on them ever again in most circumstances. For me either a simple fix of a photo is usually enough and then when I have time for something more creative, I would always use Photoshop or similar Free software. I just do not see a need for lightroom in my life, but I can see it could be a help to a professional who has repeat work, but again I work in Architecture and projects are arranged by year and job number and potentially can be grouped by the client if needed, so the photo management for me would again be second fiddle to Photoshop.
@aerialgroundpictures45494 жыл бұрын
So Light room to edit the exposure and photoshop to make any changes? Can you not do the changes in photoshop? Ive never used these before thanks
@nurb2kea5 жыл бұрын
What about Camera Raw in PS? The only thing missing is the gallery and sorting.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Yes Camera Raw is pretty much the same as the develop module in Lightroom
@davegoslingphoto
4 жыл бұрын
@@theschoolofphotography So you don't need LR!
@gernerchristensen81144 жыл бұрын
Why would the combination of LR and PS be superior to say PS alone? PS do have the whole LR build in using smart objects, though not being able to utilize the LR cataloge database. There we are forced to work in the PS OS system's general library through Bridge. I see no benefits adding LR in parallel. Anyone?
@MrCraptakular4 жыл бұрын
Catpure One is awesome, should do a video on that?
@bfsbev47405 жыл бұрын
I have both programs.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
👍
@DaveTaste
4 жыл бұрын
👍
@Fred-xz5hh5 жыл бұрын
does it make a difference in HDR if you use more than 3 shots i.e 7 shots.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Yes but I find not by much. It's each to there own when it comes to that. Hope that helps 👍
@stephaniepegg53255 жыл бұрын
How do you link Photoshop and Lightroom together ?
@bryanevans5398
5 жыл бұрын
They are automatically linked. When you right click on a photo while editing in Lightroom there is the option to edit in Lightroom.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi yes as Bryan says, right click and select open in photoshop. More in depth info here www.theschoolofphotography.com/courses/lightroom-course-online
@stephaniepegg5325
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I pay for both , but have only used Photoshop up until now, for about three years....it's taken that long to get used to it.
@maninironmask79253 жыл бұрын
Can't you smoothen skin in Lightroom as well and retouch? Or is the photoshop smoothing 10x more dramatic?
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
Much better to do in Ps. Thanks
@maninironmask7925
3 жыл бұрын
@@theschoolofphotography 🙏
@DKNex5 жыл бұрын
I need a mobile photography video. And (End Game Spoilers Ahead) Bruce is now professor Hulk. So Bruce, You need to change your regular replying words😜
@EEEBA13 жыл бұрын
Why use any software for our photos? Why don't we take pictures like we used to without any alterations afterwards? Why go back and change the past/history? Isn't that cheating? Isn't that ruining photography? Photography was something that required skill years ago and now we can fix our "mistakes" or what we don't like afterwards. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to digital world. I used to shoot film years ago, and I'm thinking about getting into digital world of photography, I just have a hard time with changing what we actually capture. Thank you.
@woodydroneson
2 жыл бұрын
I come from both eras in photography and basically all being digital does is help us to achieve better photographs like some of the professionals of the time shooting film could only achieve. I have worked in B&W printing and you can mask off overexposed areas to get detail in clouds and bring details out of shadows. In the past, we have extensively used filters over lenses to get great sunsets or capture perfect soft and dreamy skin tones. I agree that if pushed too far then maybe the results can be too unrealistic. Printers in the past adjusted colour and saturation etc, so in reality, all Digital allows us to do is to enhance what the sensor pics up (Which can be unpleasant and unrealistic) My Canon 850D for instance captures a dull almost grey centred image with lots os scope for getting the full detail out of the image to get full white and black tones and a nice spread of colour. It is only something that a professional printer worth his or her salt would have been able to do in the past by exposing different amounts of colour onto the film. The great advantage in the digital age is being able to eliminate items like a stray piece of rubbish ruining a shot taken on holiday or getting rid of that spot on your nose that appeared on your wedding day. When I was young I did not have access to specialist printers and if I could take 28 pictures a month I was lucky. I hope this gives you some inspiration into taking up photography again. You will be able to take as many photographs as you like and also edit them to the limit that suits your requirements. I never look back to using film, so sad that I was unable to enjoy photography due to the cost of developing photos all of those years ago. If you have a reasonable smartphone why not start your digital world with that, as there is a lot of apps like Photoshop and lightroom that are free to use for basic edits, the world is your oyster :)
@HondaDASHProductions5 жыл бұрын
Great video Marc! I really appreciate your videos they have been me such a better photographer and videographer they have help me to be Wimmer professional and to get a ton new gigs I watch your videos regularly I’m not professional myself by any means but I do try my KZread career has been so ever-changing but I think I have just landed and I’m gonna stick with photography and videography for a while feel free to check it out and critique some of my videos especially the Foto Friday series I would appreciate any feedback you have critical or not I want to be better photographer/ Videographer thanks again Marc CHEERS Mate
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments and liking our channel, I'll try and take a look soon 😊
@tomekjan794 жыл бұрын
I'm not against software like this but if 50-70% of the image is generated in a computer than it stops being a photography
@feny8
3 жыл бұрын
Photography itself is an ilusión of what really is out there. If you capture the exact colors and lighting, you won’t have anything interesting. You have to manipulate to create art. There’s no difference.
@genghisbunny5 жыл бұрын
Darktable and GIMP.
@Alexxpb5 жыл бұрын
can't afford the subscribtion plan that lets me use both.. :(
@slap99
5 жыл бұрын
Single app Photoshop or Lightroom...23 Euro/Month, but Photography plan include Photoshop and Lightroom for 11,99/Month ;)
@ToastandJam525 жыл бұрын
I use neither. Like a lot of people, I moved away from Adobe when they introduced their subscription service. With the pending 100% increase in monthly fees, their will be a lot more people moving to Adobe's competition.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, maybe you could share what you use for Lightroom and Photoshop. I'm sure others would be interested.
@ToastandJam52
5 жыл бұрын
The School of Photography I use Affinity Photo and, on rare occasions, Gimp.
@alexbruce4639
5 жыл бұрын
@@theschoolofphotography I subscibe to the Adobe basic plan but am considering moving completely to Capture One 12. Find it just as good and more intuitive than LR and catalogues to be less complicated. Soon Adobe will be doubling the subscription fee to new users and I fear eventually to all users.
@nigelwest34303 жыл бұрын
Really don't like her eyes in the Photoshop edit.............She looked much nicer in the RAW file, A beautiful Lady does not need editing, You (The industry) are creating false perfection that young girls think they need to live up to in real life :-(
@UFGator19725 жыл бұрын
Bottom line, if you want to edit your photos to look realistic use Lightroom but if you want to make images look like paintings then use Photoshop.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments 👍
@dovidell
4 жыл бұрын
I use the vibrance tool on Photoshop to add or subtract " emphasis " in my pictures , including skin tone
@hansisbrucker813
4 жыл бұрын
@@dovidell can't you just use the adjustment brush in lightroom for that?
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Another great job from Marc! I went trough the Lr and Long Exposure courses from TSOP. In one, learned Lr and on other, besides the long exposure techniques, I also learned to "play" with Lr and Ps together. Thx to Marc! Excellent training courses presented by an outstanding teacher!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rui, really appreciate the comments 👍😊
it would be interesting if you compared it with some free one such as Dark room/gimp or for that matter Canon's Digital Photo Professional 4 which comes with all EOS cameras, just a thought and thanks for another great video/tutorial, as always
I have to check your school out, learning more is always a plus!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
We'll be glad to have you on board 👍
I try to stick to lightroom only, mainly because my PS skills are poop
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
👍
Thanks for the video. It helped me understand what I need. I was trying to decide whether I should just get Lightroom or the Photography package Adobe offers and add more storage later. I'm excited to dig in. I appreciate you being sensitive to the editing of models. It is ubiquitous and insidious. Doing things like brightening eyes, adjusting clothes, or doing things that can easily be done with makeup are all golden. It's when the bodies start changing that the real problems occur. But I appreciate your mentioning it.
I use both, but especially use PhotoShop to use "open in PS as layers and add maps in order to combine pictures into one where you use a brush on the map to add part of the underlying picture to to top picture. I have not found out how to do this in Lightroom. Thus, lightroom for basic editing and syncing a bunch of pics with same edits, then open in PS as layers.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck 👍😊
This is a serious question. Please don't answer with some form of "To each his own." I want to know why anyone needs Lightroom at all if you already have Photoshop, which installs with Bridge (for organizing, kewording, star-rating, libraries, favorites folders, etc, etc.) and Adobe Camera Raw which IS Lightroom. When you have all of that, as well as Camera Raw inside of Photoshop which can be applied as a filter, what is the advantage to having another program which effectively duplicates what you already have with your Photoshop install? Why is having another Camera Raw an advantage? Obviously, if you don't have Photoshop and only need to develop and touch up raw files, Lightroom is the way yo go. But if you have Photoshop installed, why not just use the Camera Raw that came with it and skip Lightroom? Eidt: If in fact Lightroom is so much more than Camera Raw, then why not a video contrasting Lightroom with Camera Raw, instead of Lightroom and Photoshop which are entirely different programs?
I bought the adobe photography as an upgrade to editing on just the mobile google Snapseed. I wish I learned how to use these sooner but I’m learning. Great tutorial!
@theschoolofphotography
4 жыл бұрын
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Intersting, Ive only ever used PS. Ill have to explore LR. It sounds like the learning curve will be less, so thats good.
@theschoolofphotography
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck 👍
I realize this is just a fact of the industry, but I genuinely think she looks more beautiful before she was retouched.
@juanperez-df1mo
3 жыл бұрын
This was great, I been tryin to find out about "lightroom cc sync settings not working" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Piyamilla Aphonic Prestige - (just google it ) ? It is a smashing one of a kind guide for discovering how to use these lightroom presets to edit your photos without the hard work. Ive heard some great things about it and my partner got amazing results with it.
Thanks for the excellent tutorial. Like most have said in the comments, I mainly use LR and jump to Photoshop for simple things like background swaps etc ..keep up the for work!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan 👍
Marc & TSOP thank you for this quick overview of Lightroom and Photoshop.
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
Great video as usual. I'm not that skilled in any, but I use more of Lr than Ps. Most of my use of Ps if any has to do with spot removals and rarely playing with filters
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ellie, thanks for the comments 👍
YOUR CAMERA QUALITY IS BANGING MAN
Looking forward to doing one of your 4 day courses!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, see you soon 😊👍
I dunno ( I know this video is old) but It seems more like Photoshop is the must have. You can do 70% of what lightroom can do in photoshop as for file management im sure there's free offering that can do something similar as far as sorting and labeling photos. Though of course as you said using lightroom and photoshop is more ideal!
Thank you for this great video, it was really helpful :)
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
Hey, would you be able to do a video on organising your Lightroom? I see loads of options and features for organising but I've no idea how to really utilise them. Would love to see you explain how its all done.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi there is too much to that for a KZread video but we cover it in depth here www.theschoolofphotography.com/courses/lightroom-course-online Thanks
I'm new to photography and I'm learning photoshop
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
👍
@dovidell
4 жыл бұрын
photoshop or photoshop elements which is( IMHO ) better for entry level photographers
I've always believed, if you can take good photos WITHOUT editing then you're a good Photographer.
@mrrohitjadhav470
3 жыл бұрын
Well you can be the best
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
Right! Why use any software for our photos? Why don't we take pictures like we used to without any alterations afterwards? Why go back and change the past/history? Isn't that cheating? Isn't that ruining photography? Photography was something that required skill years ago and now we can fix our "mistakes" or what we don't like afterwards. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to digital world. I used to shoot film years ago, and I'm thinking about getting into digital world of photography, I just have a hard time with changing what we actually capture. Thank you.
@lostpov6922
2 жыл бұрын
Well that's just one ideology...Post production is another. You can take great photos without post edits.. But you're effectively at the complete will of well "reality" your photos will always be grounded in reality (not that that's a bad thing) but it's simply the truth. Post edits allow you break free of that "reality" scope as well as save bad photos or make "ok" photos appear "great". I solemnly believe you shouldn't place limits on your self especially in a creative atmosphere it's well and fine to have a preferred way of doing things or have a taste for what you feel is best. Of course good edits start off with a good photo, someone who does post production should always strive to take the "perfect" photo because that means less "destructive fixes" and a cleaner canvas to edit/add. Which means less work ultimately.
@MarkSmith-qt7wi
2 жыл бұрын
@@EEEBA1 I also started in film with a bathroom darkroom. And we used masks, burning in, over/under developing, and many other tools in the production of our images. We didn’t consider it cheating, lazy, or unskilled. Quite the opposite.
Great video, thanks
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍
I used Photoshop years ago when CS came out. Was doing portrait and car/bike photography. Been out of the action for some time and i am back now. Plan to get lightroom...but know hardly nothing about it. I will be heading more to the art side of photography and mixed media art. So any vids on that side i would love to see !!!
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes sure, check this out www.theschoolofphotography.com/courses/lightroom-course-online Hope that helps 👍
thank you
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍
Completely agree with the bit about retouching making photos unrealistic.
How do you know or how do you decide when the photo is ready to pass from one program to another?
@theschoolofphotography
2 жыл бұрын
Just personal preference
video seems to say you need photoshop to do things you cant in lightroom. But do you need lightroom to accomplish things you cant inside of photoshop?
I really enjoyed this tutorial and wonder why you didn’t mention. Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). I use ACR and photoshop (ACR is free and = LR) I would appreciate your input.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sheila, yes good question and a thought a lot of people have. ACR is pretty much the same as the develop module in LR but lacks the rest of what LR offers. Lightroom just makes a really quick and easy workflow. Hope that helps 👍
Retouching models is the reason why there are so many filters used on social media. Society is still telling people what is acceptable in personal appearance. At least you admit you don’t like doing it, but have to accept the fact it’s needed.
Hello! Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Lightroom allow you to retouch things you mentioned at around the 3:00 mark as well ? I've only recently started using Lightroom myself and I've found that it allows you ( must be a recent feature ) to detect a subject and then to apply masks/Layers to different parts of the body. I could easily apply masks to iris, sclera, hair and face with the press of the "detect subject" Feature, which then allowed me to have control over those aspects, making a portrait look much like the photoshop version you presented :) . Great video comparing the two !
@theschoolofphotography
Жыл бұрын
Hi, yes there has been an update in Lr, click here for more details kzread.info/dash/bejne/X55oyreMZr3ggJs.html You can now do some face retouching in Lr but it is limited in comparison to Ps. Hope that helps 😊
Program I like to use is Picsart to really cool program to edit pictures within do some photoshopping for people who are amateurs who don't really know how to
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍😊
I've been using Nikon capture Nx for many years and switched to NX-D as capture NX is longer supported, NX-D is okay but for me LR is the way to go
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
how much memory would you recommend one has in one's computer for both programs to work to the max ( please )
@theschoolofphotography
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, you want at least 16gb. Hope that helps
Is Photoshop just for some healing? I really do not think that Lightroom is just for some global adjustments as is clear from your other tutorials themselves. But I think Photoshop is for some geeky features to use. Other than that, you can do everything else in Lightroom, especially in landscape photography. But a great video nonetheless. And it is always pleasure to watch you.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comments. You can't do everything in Lightroom I'm afraid, in the video is an example of the difference.
If you not count in library feature i LR, is there something that you can only do in Lr and not in Ps?
You forgot to mention Adobe Bridge that supplements Ps which I still use and and find easier and less complicated to use than Lr.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, there's one I haven't heard in a while. I haven't used bridge since Lightroom come on the scene but good to see there is life still in it. Thanks
Interesting video, thanks. I have tried lightroom in the past as well as other software. I only work on a series of photos at a time, usually holiday photos or days out. I personally find the copying of all of my photographs back as thumbnails that I no longer want to work on annoying. I file all of my photos onto 3 separate hard discs and put them into year folders and then folders with date and description in this format say 2021.10.31 Day Out At Spooklacular, seeing 21 years of photographs as thumbnails would drive me crazy and I am never going to want to work on them ever again in most circumstances. For me either a simple fix of a photo is usually enough and then when I have time for something more creative, I would always use Photoshop or similar Free software. I just do not see a need for lightroom in my life, but I can see it could be a help to a professional who has repeat work, but again I work in Architecture and projects are arranged by year and job number and potentially can be grouped by the client if needed, so the photo management for me would again be second fiddle to Photoshop.
So Light room to edit the exposure and photoshop to make any changes? Can you not do the changes in photoshop? Ive never used these before thanks
What about Camera Raw in PS? The only thing missing is the gallery and sorting.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Yes Camera Raw is pretty much the same as the develop module in Lightroom
@davegoslingphoto
4 жыл бұрын
@@theschoolofphotography So you don't need LR!
Why would the combination of LR and PS be superior to say PS alone? PS do have the whole LR build in using smart objects, though not being able to utilize the LR cataloge database. There we are forced to work in the PS OS system's general library through Bridge. I see no benefits adding LR in parallel. Anyone?
Catpure One is awesome, should do a video on that?
I have both programs.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
👍
@DaveTaste
4 жыл бұрын
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does it make a difference in HDR if you use more than 3 shots i.e 7 shots.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Yes but I find not by much. It's each to there own when it comes to that. Hope that helps 👍
How do you link Photoshop and Lightroom together ?
@bryanevans5398
5 жыл бұрын
They are automatically linked. When you right click on a photo while editing in Lightroom there is the option to edit in Lightroom.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Hi yes as Bryan says, right click and select open in photoshop. More in depth info here www.theschoolofphotography.com/courses/lightroom-course-online
@stephaniepegg5325
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I pay for both , but have only used Photoshop up until now, for about three years....it's taken that long to get used to it.
Can't you smoothen skin in Lightroom as well and retouch? Or is the photoshop smoothing 10x more dramatic?
@theschoolofphotography
3 жыл бұрын
Much better to do in Ps. Thanks
@maninironmask7925
3 жыл бұрын
@@theschoolofphotography 🙏
I need a mobile photography video. And (End Game Spoilers Ahead) Bruce is now professor Hulk. So Bruce, You need to change your regular replying words😜
Why use any software for our photos? Why don't we take pictures like we used to without any alterations afterwards? Why go back and change the past/history? Isn't that cheating? Isn't that ruining photography? Photography was something that required skill years ago and now we can fix our "mistakes" or what we don't like afterwards. Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to digital world. I used to shoot film years ago, and I'm thinking about getting into digital world of photography, I just have a hard time with changing what we actually capture. Thank you.
@woodydroneson
2 жыл бұрын
I come from both eras in photography and basically all being digital does is help us to achieve better photographs like some of the professionals of the time shooting film could only achieve. I have worked in B&W printing and you can mask off overexposed areas to get detail in clouds and bring details out of shadows. In the past, we have extensively used filters over lenses to get great sunsets or capture perfect soft and dreamy skin tones. I agree that if pushed too far then maybe the results can be too unrealistic. Printers in the past adjusted colour and saturation etc, so in reality, all Digital allows us to do is to enhance what the sensor pics up (Which can be unpleasant and unrealistic) My Canon 850D for instance captures a dull almost grey centred image with lots os scope for getting the full detail out of the image to get full white and black tones and a nice spread of colour. It is only something that a professional printer worth his or her salt would have been able to do in the past by exposing different amounts of colour onto the film. The great advantage in the digital age is being able to eliminate items like a stray piece of rubbish ruining a shot taken on holiday or getting rid of that spot on your nose that appeared on your wedding day. When I was young I did not have access to specialist printers and if I could take 28 pictures a month I was lucky. I hope this gives you some inspiration into taking up photography again. You will be able to take as many photographs as you like and also edit them to the limit that suits your requirements. I never look back to using film, so sad that I was unable to enjoy photography due to the cost of developing photos all of those years ago. If you have a reasonable smartphone why not start your digital world with that, as there is a lot of apps like Photoshop and lightroom that are free to use for basic edits, the world is your oyster :)
Great video Marc! I really appreciate your videos they have been me such a better photographer and videographer they have help me to be Wimmer professional and to get a ton new gigs I watch your videos regularly I’m not professional myself by any means but I do try my KZread career has been so ever-changing but I think I have just landed and I’m gonna stick with photography and videography for a while feel free to check it out and critique some of my videos especially the Foto Friday series I would appreciate any feedback you have critical or not I want to be better photographer/ Videographer thanks again Marc CHEERS Mate
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments and liking our channel, I'll try and take a look soon 😊
I'm not against software like this but if 50-70% of the image is generated in a computer than it stops being a photography
@feny8
3 жыл бұрын
Photography itself is an ilusión of what really is out there. If you capture the exact colors and lighting, you won’t have anything interesting. You have to manipulate to create art. There’s no difference.
Darktable and GIMP.
can't afford the subscribtion plan that lets me use both.. :(
@slap99
5 жыл бұрын
Single app Photoshop or Lightroom...23 Euro/Month, but Photography plan include Photoshop and Lightroom for 11,99/Month ;)
I use neither. Like a lot of people, I moved away from Adobe when they introduced their subscription service. With the pending 100% increase in monthly fees, their will be a lot more people moving to Adobe's competition.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, maybe you could share what you use for Lightroom and Photoshop. I'm sure others would be interested.
@ToastandJam52
5 жыл бұрын
The School of Photography I use Affinity Photo and, on rare occasions, Gimp.
@alexbruce4639
5 жыл бұрын
@@theschoolofphotography I subscibe to the Adobe basic plan but am considering moving completely to Capture One 12. Find it just as good and more intuitive than LR and catalogues to be less complicated. Soon Adobe will be doubling the subscription fee to new users and I fear eventually to all users.
Really don't like her eyes in the Photoshop edit.............She looked much nicer in the RAW file, A beautiful Lady does not need editing, You (The industry) are creating false perfection that young girls think they need to live up to in real life :-(
Bottom line, if you want to edit your photos to look realistic use Lightroom but if you want to make images look like paintings then use Photoshop.
@theschoolofphotography
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments 👍
@dovidell
4 жыл бұрын
I use the vibrance tool on Photoshop to add or subtract " emphasis " in my pictures , including skin tone
@hansisbrucker813
4 жыл бұрын
@@dovidell can't you just use the adjustment brush in lightroom for that?