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@harryroesser3916

7 ай бұрын

Wow You have another sponsor other than Lenoad

@Mushroom67

7 ай бұрын

I've got all notifications on, but didn't get one for this video. Found you when scrolling down my sub feed. Sort it out KZread 😢

@theatheisthammer

7 ай бұрын

I reckon most of the problems would have been fixed with software updates and I guess that was the plan. But the folded

@catchnkill

7 ай бұрын

@@theatheisthammer I am not so sure. ASIC is not software upgradable. If the functions performed by the ASIC chip are vital, software upgrade cannot help.

@rockpie.squashfs

7 ай бұрын

friendly reminder to not call me rocky pie

when you said "these guys are legit" i expected people who understood photography, not a software guy and a network guy

@justwatchinguboob

7 ай бұрын

Legit as in not the kickstarter way better cooler type

@RobeonMew

7 ай бұрын

keep watching past 3 minutes

@toptiertech7291

7 ай бұрын

He means “these guys are legit” as in real people with reputable experience. A lot of products on this series use fake creators with fake back stories

@GoHARD99

7 ай бұрын

That just got past you

@thermidorthelobster4645

7 ай бұрын

You wouldn’t expect the founders to be doing the engineering. It’s their role to understand how to run the company, not code the software and design the hardware.

Those buttons at 6:12 were supposed to be used as capacitive zooming buttons. They were never programmed to work before light went under.

@xluumu

7 ай бұрын

Is the hardware already there?

@Kaldosthesergal

7 ай бұрын

@@xluumu it is, it was just never programmed

@Mrcaffinebean

7 ай бұрын

I figured but why on earth did they not have that ready before shipping? Not like that should have been hard. Short of makes you think they knew they have bigger problems.

@txtpeer5179

7 ай бұрын

its a mouse pad with a right and left click

@anteshell

6 ай бұрын

@@txtpeer5179 It is not. You cannot make reliable vertical movement with small touchpad.

From a technical perspective this things is really interesting. Building a custom ASIC sounds like a massive investment, which is probably part of why it was so expensive. Computational photography was just not ready at the time, but I wonder how it would turne out if Apple or Samsung used modern algorithms and engineering to build a camera like that today.

@Photo0021

7 ай бұрын

Would probably be amazing. It was too ahead of its time back then. And even something more simple like a Micro 4/3s sized camera with computational photography using modern algorithms would be very amazing to see.

@miskatonic6210

7 ай бұрын

It will never be as good as a proper optical lens. It's all a bunch of bs, only usable by amateurs. A pro doesn't want some software black box taking creative control over a picture.

@metaforth1271

7 ай бұрын

​@@miskatonic6210the camera wasn't designed for professionals It's meant for hobbyists and ametuers who want something as portable and convenient as a smartphone with a much better camera Not everything is designed for professionals

@metaforth1271

7 ай бұрын

It'd probably do incredibly well today, given photography as a hobby is more popular than ever

@probablyanadult7354

7 ай бұрын

A custom asic is often used before the finished product can be mass manufactured onto a micro controller. It is also more expensive.

It's really unfortunate too. I wanted one of these to do video, but eventually determined it wouldn't really work that well. I do wish somebody today would create a camera that is small and thin like the Light camera and use multiple sensors. Basically, something that is NOT a smartphone but a dedicated camera with a card reader. But, it would need to have similar quality to the multi-sensor smart phones we already have. and have a TRIPOD MOUNT!!!!!

@BrunodeSouzaLino

6 ай бұрын

You mean like the Galaxy Camera?

@lachlanlau

6 ай бұрын

@@BrunodeSouzaLino but with more lenses

@lachlanlau

6 ай бұрын

@The8BitGuy but wouldn't a carousel or other storage method of lenses with one sensor be more economical and less wasteful?

@qv43v

6 ай бұрын

​@@BrunodeSouzaLinoyeahhhhh, I mean the camera on the galaxy is so good I don't think a thin camera could be that much better.

@LaNoturnaisafeg

6 ай бұрын

Buy a spare phone and a BeastDOF grip, problem solved

It's harsh having spent $2K on a camera that's outclassed by the phone that's in your pocket, even in 2016.

@definitelyabot

7 ай бұрын

eh 2016 smartphone cameras weren't that good, image quality of this camera was bad by todays standard but still better than 2016 smartphones

@SianaGearz

7 ай бұрын

@@definitelyabot But this is not a smartphone, it's a camera, so it's going to have to compete with cameras. All the way in 2006 you'd easily get a flat compact periscope-lens zoom compact with 6MP which well that's not a lot of megapixels but the colour they do is WONDERFUL compared to this mess, and they're quick too, and all it would cost you is maybe $200. I still use a Pentax Optio W10 from that era, that one is waterproof! If you're wondering how a periscope zoom lens works, look at the promo pictures of Minolta Dimage X, i have a whole zoo of those cameras, a very interesting lens geometry where it's like Tardis, it's bigger on the inside, adequate sensor size (1/2" typical), adequate light performance, all the zoom and focusing movement is internal and the compensation on these lenses is excellent, there is no colour fringing ever. By 2016 the models available are basically almost the same ones you can still get today, with like 14MP 1/2" sensors and there's two manufacturers left Ricoh/Pentax and Nikon i think, but back in the day in 00s everyone was building something similar. Granted they're a good bit more expensive than $200 today but also way way less expensive than $2000. And they're super robust quick and reliable. Now look again at the pictures this one makes and they're no match to even 4MP pictures off a Powershot G2 that i got in 2002 which look like every pixel has got meaning to it. Colour yes but also computational photography failures where there's oversmoothing and overshaprening, you aren't actually getting a great amount of genuine consistent detail. You're pissing all the nominal resolution away if your camera can't even focus, which... well case in point here. That era's bridge Canons throw a super narrow flashlight beam to aid contrast focus. As to smartphones... well i have a Huawei P7 L10 from 2014 here ($330) and i'm not convinced this is much of an improvement either. These photos just do not look good.

@rainbowbunchie8237

7 ай бұрын

@@definitelyabot I find myself regularly surprised by the quality of some of the pictures I can get out of my collection of iPhone 4 and 4S', even compared to my S22 Ultra at times. Neither catch as much detail as my Rebel XTi, but that 2010 iphone sure has some good qualities. This thing falls short of the iphone 4 across the board, if only due to incredible inconsistency in focus and white balance. So it not only falls flat compared to a Note 8 with a steady hand in 2017, but an iphone 4S from seven years prior. Especially for video performance...

@femboichik

7 ай бұрын

@@definitelyabot Hey, in 2016 Google Pixel's camera was amazing

@rajat1960

7 ай бұрын

@@definitelyabot you had the og Pixel and the iPhone 7+ in 2016 and they were p good

I think your chosen charity is a brilliant one. My current pc tower is second hand and cost £90. My Chromebook is second-hand and cost round £140. Most of my clothes and quite a lot of furniture is second-hand - working next door to a charity shop helps - but I grew up next door to a landfill site, so I'm a big fan of recycling and re-purposing, having seen (and smelled) first-hand the consequences of a throwaway society.

@mat8448

7 ай бұрын

Poopy

@robt6425

7 ай бұрын

Poopy

@graphicsgod

7 ай бұрын

I also buy "e-waste" and repurpose it for either myself or for resell.

@motionoftheocean7524

7 ай бұрын

I like my shoes a little off..so i splurge online from time to time....aside from that, my electronics (phones, laptops, tv, kitchen wares were all bought used, and I'm happy that way...😊

@DavidFrankland

7 ай бұрын

You can't just take stuff from landfill any more. I took a broken appliance to our local tip last week, and there was a great condition Commodore PET sitting in the shipping container. The guy working there wouldn't let me take it away ;-(

"quite a freaky little thing isn't it, that's what the doctor said about me when i was born" ken... you are a frickin' legend

@sn4ketooth220

7 ай бұрын

A freaky legend

@aregulargenericname8794

7 ай бұрын

Wow, he did another self owned joke, so funny, laugh now

That camera had some interesting features but it really needed more time in the oven, especially for the software side of it (both onboard and external). The annoyances for me with that camera are the lack of removable battery and memory card as when you're out in the field taking pictures or shooting video you need to be able to swap out said battery and memory card.

I remember when this camera came out. I thought it was a cool concept. I know it failed but I bought this camera in June of this year. It can take incredible photos under certain circumstances, but it severely struggles in low light conditions. What I’ll say is it’s one of my favorite cameras because of how different and unique it is. However, it can never replace an actual DSLR for professional use. One word, lenses. But I do not regret ever getting this camera in June for a cool $180.

@Brandonr757sGaming

7 ай бұрын

I'm a lover of mostly higher-brightness photography, such as car/automotive photography; do you think it might be a fun addition? I have an obsession with taking different types of photos; I already have a new Polaroid camera and a 4000D DSLR and enjoy the variety.

@OnnieKoski

7 ай бұрын

my sentiments exactly. I got a hold of one of these for $200 a couple of years ago and I'd saw it was worth it.

@Kaldosthesergal

7 ай бұрын

@@Brandonr757sGaming I personally love it for its novelty. Don’t get it expecting it to rival top DLSRs, get it because it’s a cool piece of tech. It’s also a fun conversation starter!

@Brandonr757sGaming

7 ай бұрын

@@Kaldosthesergal Fair; are there any use cases where it might take photos that are visually different/distinctive such that it might have some "usefulness" in some way?

@jamespulver3890

7 ай бұрын

Heh, I think the problem is you can't make this new for the "novelty" price point of $200, which I agree is probably where it needs to be just as a novelty.

Not gonna lie, I was blown away when I saw the camera actually looked like that! Not just a thumbnail edit..

Anyone whom has had their wife berate them for bringing their DSLR to Six Flags understands what these men were trying to achieve. Wife: “NO! I am not holding that damn thing while you get on Viper!”

@ashishkumawat6110

7 ай бұрын

These are always fake stories constructed to tell the investors how their hilarious ideas originated and they never want to mention money...

@DanielSmedegaardBuus

7 ай бұрын

*who

@wakomikro

5 ай бұрын

Damn this hits close to home.

@davemccage7918

5 ай бұрын

@@ashishkumawat6110 Yes, people love a good fake story about how a product was conceived, but my example is a true story. I always bring my camera on vacations and the wife can’t understand why I need my DSLR strapped around my shoulder when I have a decent enough iPhone camera in my pocket. But you haven’t lived unless you shoot in RAW!

@DaveTexas

3 ай бұрын

@@DanielSmedegaardBuusthank you! I’m glad I’m not the only person bothered by terrible grammar.

"HOW DO YOU CLOSE A BEAN?!" is going in my list of favorite sentences. This honestly seems like a really cool product, and I'm sure it had the potential to be something great. I personally am interested to see how the multiple cameras on the S23 Ultra perform once I get mine.

As a working product photographer in London at the time the story began, I was one of the first backers. The concept appealed to me, in a similar way to the Lytro project. I could see that things were not going well though, as the fundraising bulletins were continually obsessing over small technical challenges, not the bigger software issues. There came an opportunity to pull out, which I did. A lot of the work that was done, however, has found its way into many other products and technologies. Apart from unfocused marketing, the thing that killed it was smartphone multi lens cameras, and soon phones will be using AI in their imaging software, so that will start a new era in personal image making.

@nooneinpart

7 ай бұрын

AI is already finding its way into smartphone image processing. Samsung is the most blatant about it, it will "enhance" the detail if you take a photo of the moon (not a literal replacement of the moon, but they have a neural network trained on pictures of the moon and it will add detail to your photo using that) and the digital zoom shots look like they've been thrown through one of those AI image upscalers. Apple's image processing doesn't go that far, but I wouldn't be surprised if they use a bit of AI for some things considering how they talk about the camera using the Neural Engine.

@JH-pe3ro

7 ай бұрын

@@nooneinpart Even on my phone from five years ago or so, I noticed that it was sharpening and brightening close-up text I was photographing to diagnose an electronics issue. Actually very helpful for that. I've had several upgrades since then. My previous phone had four sensors, and my current which just arrived the other day has two larger ones. The new one can do an OK job with night landscape shots, which is a pretty remarkable achievement for something that I got deep-discounted to $20.

@SianaGearz

7 ай бұрын

But it's not a phone, it's a camera. As such it would need to compete with Pentax Optio WG2/WG3 and Nikon AW130 back in the day. And it would not be a comparison it was going to win. Bloody hell are the photos it makes absolutely hideous!

Trypophobia may also be an evolutionary aversion similar to that most people feel towards spiders or snakes. Instinctively staying the heck away from snakes was an important survival advantage to our ancestors. Trypophobia could be similar aversion towards wasp nests, in fact those trigger trypophobia in some people. For sure there are few things more horrifying than the idea of a wasp nest growing _in_ your back!! Also as you said it may be related to skin conditions, but perhaps in the sense that instinctively avoiding people with drastic skin diseases is a survival advantage.

@zuglymonster

7 ай бұрын

This makes sense. The tryophobaia doesn't bother me nearly as much in something like that phone than in nature because something deep in my head says "ok that's safe. It's just plastic, it's designed that way" but in nature its just huge alarm bells and a feeling of disgust. Like some bug is burrowed into it. I don't feel itchy, it's almost nausea for me and just extreme uncomfortable feeling. In something purposely made that way I feel that way for a brief second but my "oh it's that way for a reason" comes in fast. If not I immediately expect grossness

@michaelcalvin42

7 ай бұрын

My parents once had a lot of mud daubers living under their porch, and they created quite a horrifying mess of irregular holes in the dirt all along the length of the porch. It always triggers my trypophobia if I accidentally happen to get a good look under their porch.

@scaper8

7 ай бұрын

Also infection and decay. Holes can looks like worms or maggots have eaten into something. Doubly so for ones like lotus blossom, where you have the pod part looking very "maggot like" in that context. Throwing that onto a body part screams, "STAY AWAY! THAT PERSON IS DISEASED! YOU WILL GET SICK!!!" in the primitive, instinct parts of our brains.

@trejkaz

7 ай бұрын

I got one for you - a wasp nest growing in your scalp

@alaric_

7 ай бұрын

Was about to comment this exact same thing. Most (if not all) of human fear/disgust responses have formed over time out of of necessity for survival. Height, animals and such are rational fears and fear of beehive or bunch of larvae inside the skin are a very good reasons to stay away. Those who stay away, survive more often. Repeat many million times and you have born innate response to possibly dangerous situation! Making fake typtophobia pictures have existed at least from about early 2000's with the famous 'larvae breast' so it's not a new thing. There is a Snopes article debunking it with background info.

Always glad to help with researching this episode! Here's a couple other tidbits regarding the Light L16 that weren't mentioned: - The Light L16 claimed to offer 4K video recording capability at all three focal lengths according to the box, but that feature never shipped with the product when it first came out-a software update from November of 2018 did add video recording, but it was "beta" and was limited to 1080p at certain focal lengths. Since Light never delivered on their promise of 4K video, you could technically call this false advertising. - Speaking of software updates, the Light L16 and Lumen had plenty of missing features when it first came out, and Light knew that. For example, at launch, the camera had no burst mode, no face detection, no priority modes, no on-device editing tools, etc-software updates from 2017 to 2018 added those features later on.

@ComputerClan

7 ай бұрын

The 4K on the box totally shocked me, haha. They were biting off more than they could chew.

Ah, a biblically accurate Camera 😅

They have a bunch of these cameras for sale on eBay, some new in box, in the $150 to $180 range. I can see die hard camera collectors picking one of these up for that price as this oddity will certainly become a collectors item. It's definitely unique.

@metaljacket866

7 ай бұрын

Collectors items with dead rechargeable batteries , not so sure .

@SianaGearz

7 ай бұрын

@@metaljacket866 Some people are enthusiastic enough to rebuild things with a fresh cell. Or just extract the cell and leave the item safe against accidents but non-functioning on the shelf. Look the photos it makes are hideous anyway, it has no utilitarian value, it is only a unique item.

@metaljacket866

7 ай бұрын

@@SianaGearz I suppose , to me it looks like more old electronics clutter .. not exactly a popular item like Apple II C

@SianaGearz

7 ай бұрын

@@metaljacket866 I've been thinking of picking up some mid 2000s digicams for cheap. I already have some good items including a very unique Sanyo from the 90s. Half of my cameras died the SONY sensor plague of 2004. These things can be lots of fun. I'm not the sort of collector to strive for this one but there are people out there who are into all sorts of failed shit even the Nintendo Virtual Boy.

@cvspvr

7 ай бұрын

​@@metaljacket866but, an apple ii c is just as much of useless clutter as a light l16

Did you update the firmware? The official servers are down but someone on XDA got a copy of the latest version and doing a offline update drastically improved the experience for me. Also, I find the camera to work best for wide shots of larger scenes, such as landscape, instead of close up subjects.

@Brandonr757sGaming

7 ай бұрын

I'm a lover of mostly higher-brightness photography, such as car/automotive photography; do you think it might be a fun addition? I have an obsession with taking different types of photos; I already have a new Polaroid camera and a 4000D DSLR and enjoy the variety.

@iHaveTheDocuments

7 ай бұрын

The sound of cope after you spent so much money on junk

@iloveplasticbottles

7 ай бұрын

​@@iHaveTheDocumentshe probably didn't considering you can buy it for cheap

Man, I love your content. Just came across you for the first time this afternoon and have already binge-watched this and several other videos. I love the way you go in-depth to the tech but in a way that is really helpful and clear for the lay-person like me. I was particularly interested in how Light got on, so this is a fascinating watch!

Relating to the trypophopia: When I was a little kid - we had a very old garage with a metal flood light attached on one side. Wasps would always build their nest in it. I would literally avoid going on that side of the garage purely because of the abandoned paper nest 🫣 Those nightmarish camera cutouts are the sole reason I remember the L16.

@jjjacer

7 ай бұрын

a yes wasp nests, even dead they also freak me out, i got several paper was nest around the garage and a few mud dabbers in the garage (luckily they play solo and dont bug me as much as the hords of aholes with wings from the outside)

@NopeNaw

6 ай бұрын

Seems more likely that you were afraid of the wasps, not their nests.

I feel like a part of the problem with this device is that it was trying to solve was how to achieve multiple focal lengths on a phone, and it came out just as multi-camera phones were becoming mainstream. That served only to make the already ridiculous backside of the camera seem even more comical a solution.

Interesting idea. Reminds me of the pre smartphone times, when cellphone manufacturers started adding cameras to their phones and some company (maybe canon, don't remember) tried to make a digital camera that also would double as a phone... but it also didn't get far

Thanks for the warning system. Much appreciated

I usually skip sponsorships etc, but your charity sounds amazing and I want to commend you for preventing waste and, more importantly, helping those in need.

That price for a camera that didn't even survive long enough to get newer versions of it make the prices of our iPhones and Samsung Galaxys (or any other phone in this price range or lower) sound reasonable. (Even if we're only getting 3-5 lenses on our phones.) At least in the phone we get improvements regardless of how big or small they are.

@ComputerClan

7 ай бұрын

Well said : )

Love your videos. I so can't wait wait for the next one. You find the most amazing junk you review.

I loved this deep dive of the L16. I remember when they came out and were the talk of the town. It was such a neat idea in theory. I had no idea that you were a photography nut. Hoping we get to see more of these types of videos.

The sensors are so small. A micro 4/3rds is alot better. I shoot mostly with Canon crop frame dslrs and a mirrorless R7. I don't even own any L glass and mmy photos ate pretty shop Nice 7D by the way. You should get the R7 it's awesome.

I had one of these at launch. I had a buddy on the creative board so I got an even larger discount (I think I ended up getting it for $700?). my first unit was DOA and after some trouble shooting and several calls with their customer support team, we opted to swap it for a new unit. the second one worked no real issues. I tested it by taking pictures of my gunpla kits at the time. I tried using lights and bounce boards, but the photos still came out underwhelming. I would eventually shelve it and end up selling it at a loss.

Those founders are resilient. They just counted the L and kept it moving on to other things immediately.

Keeping lenses in your pocket is not a good idea. That's what camera bags are made for.

This is a case where the hardware was so bleeding edge that the software/processing couldn't keep up. I think the camera has massive potential and now with the processing closer to what may be required for this to work, this concept may show excellent improvement.

@bocahdongo7769

6 ай бұрын

I mean We already did with newer phone anyway. It's 2024, lots of thing happen

Thanks for the warning before those icky photos. I absolutely hate them. They don't make me itch it's just a grossed out feeling. It doesn't bother me nearly as much if its in something like the phone, its not natural and my brain can work out it was designed that way, but in nature or if its supposed to look "natural" something in my brain just screams "this is not right. This is not correct. Run"

@meetoo594

7 ай бұрын

Uncanny valley is the name for this, its why people don't like clowns and why almost photorealistic characters in video games look somewhat unsettling. I think its because our fight or flight response is tuned to spot anything that appears natural but looks a bit `off` as a potential threat. A preprogrammed subconscious response to camouflaged or hidden/disguised predators. A clown appears human but the face is wrong or that npc looks like a human running but the arms aren't moving quite right etc.

13:19 You should have given us a comparison of a good dynamic range image compared to the L16's image dynamic range so I can see it for my own eyes.

thank you for another educational and funny video Ken, I almost completely forgot about this thing, I was so interested back in the day

biblically accurate camera

this is so amazing technology , i wish they develop it to match the latest cameras technology

It's crazy to spend tens of millions of dollars developing a camera without knowing how camera works.

@DanielSmedegaardBuus

7 ай бұрын

That would be crazy, yeah...

Great video Ken! I liked your lighthearted sense of humor! I've never heard of this camera before. But it's good to know what they attempted to do and the idea was indeed interesting.

was looking forwards to this, definitively one of most anticipated coverage and review from you :)

I wouldn't be surprised if the way they implemented the video encoding is by using a software-based video encoder running at the fastest preset possible because the ASIC is only made to process photos/is not fast enough for real-time video processing and there needs to be extra headroom on the CPU for video processing (which is also nerfed because there needs to be headroom for video encoding). There's gotta be no way it's using the Snapdragon 820's hardware video encoder, the compression looks terrible compared to other phones from 2015 with the SD820. Or maybe they misconfigured it and made it only use I-frames or something. Meaning every single frame is saved as a whole image instead of only saving the differences between frames, that will either bloat your bitrate really quick or make video quality take a nosedive. Pro video editors supposedly prefer video codecs that are I-frame only (like ProRes, but that uses much more than 20MBPS because it's meant to be an master/intermediate codec, so it needs to be visually identical to the raw footage), so maybe that's what they were going for but they didn't get around to raising the bitrate above 20MBPS. I've heard that it's much faster to edit because jumping across clips is much faster when your computer doesn't have to decode multiple adjacent frames to generate the frame you're looking at. 🤷

By 2016, Huawei was doing computational multi-sensor photography in the P9, but more sensibly, with two sensors with the same focal length and aperture. By the time the L16 died, they were on their third generation product using the same system. The very next year, they went with simpler single sensor computational photography, with minimal cross-sensor input, because it just made more sense. People wanted faster output, and making them wait much longer for marginally better photos didn't make sense.

The heads up and heads up bell about those images was a win thank you ken

@ComputerClan

7 ай бұрын

My pleasure! I hoped some would appreciate that.

@robertl426

7 ай бұрын

@@ComputerClan I second that, I did look away so thank you so much for the warnings, having an itchy face is not fun.

I remember seeing one of these in a store like 6 years ago. I definitely spent a few minutes playing with it. Crazy looking

Biblically accurate camera. 0:04

Did you update the camera to the last firmware before doing this video, or is it tested straight out of the box?

Thanks for the warning before the weird images, I didn’t even know I needed it.

Nice job! really enjoyed watching this episode.

Biblically accurate camera

10:06 🤮 i never seen a deep dish looks this nasty

@ComputerClan

7 ай бұрын

Yeah… TRUST ME it was way better in person, haha.

i remember reading about this thing while it was in development. Completely lost track of it and along comes your video

I always thought you were a cultured man Ken , but seeing you are indeed a man of culture warms the heart.

I just wanted to thank you for the trypophobia warning and bell . As a person who nearly vomits on these kind of things online , it’s very nice to see you go the extra mile . Thank you !

Biblically accurate camera.

Ooh! Another episode!

I was sooooo hyped about this product, then i saw the price, and it was out of my range. few years later, i see this review. I'm releived to see that i didn't lose anything by not buying it the first place. I do find them on secondary marked farily cheap. Now i see why. Very comprehensive and toroughly made review

Seems they seriously overthought and over engineered an attempt to reinvent the camera and it turned into a huge mess.

Not only are you a great presenter, I extremely appreciate the trypophobia warnings and how you are inclusive!! Subscribed!

Great video on this... I was an early backer... and I still use this camera off and on even today. Perhaps a little bit more relying on a power bank to keep up a charge these days.. but it's been a great camera to take when traveling. While they always planned to have video, they sort of dropped a beta version enabled video part as the final update towards the end. nowadays phones have multiple lenses and computational photography and there is post production depth of field.. but this camera was ahead of the curve back then. Someday... mine will stop working and I'll kinda miss it.... warts and all.

Thanks so much for the warnings

4:20 - Correction, with that device you have 11 shots to make a good first impression.

Designers: How many cameras and lenses do you need? Rajiv and Dave: Yes

I was looking to buy this camera years ago. I'm glad I didn't. Thank you for your review

When I look at that camera I get the same feeling when I see that picture of Breezewood PA

Had the Nokia 9 and it sounds like just 5 cameras worked better. Although I did find you'd have to take a couple of short to get the right focus or depth of field. Although for the time. I did find it as a very good phone camera for the time. Most of the time. Even if it was licking in megapixels for 2018.

Great idea just way too early to be implemented successfully. This is basically how all modern multi-sensor smartphone works, but back then I think the processor just wasn’t fast enough and AI image processing algorithms have improved a ton since then.

I'm very new too, and not very good at photography, but like, half the reason I like my DSLR is that it's nice to use mechanically. It feels nice, the controls are nice and intuitive and easy to use. vs my phone where I push a button and the photo appears and i don't get to fiddle with any nice controls or control anything without going into a couple of menus and fiddling with annoying sliders on a touch screen. This seems way closer to a smartphone in terms of that kind of experience which makes it really unappealing imo.

great video! love your videos man, soo entertaining!

Whenever a tech reviewer says "right...RIIIGHT?", it's a sign we're about to go WAY left.

@ComputerClan

7 ай бұрын

4SHADOWING

Is that the standard American pronunciation of trypophobia? In the UK it's pronounced trip-uh-phobia. Not saying you're wrong, just curious that's all. Edit: I experience trypophobia badly enough that even thinking of such images will cause my face to itch incessantly, so yes I looked away for the warnings, and I thank you providing a warning, much appreciated. I believe it may be a result of an evolutionary process for us to avoid diseases, but I'm no expert on that, I just know it makes my face itch like crazy, so it's very real indeed.

I got my Light L16 for $1400, iirc. It updated over time, and it unlocked features as they improved. To compensate for the delay in shipping, they increased the internal storage space by 500GB. I sent a question to them in email way back when, and they told me the two buttons on the top right would be updated later for use in zoom control. It's a trackpad-like surface, so you can slide across it to adjust the zoom or you can just tap one or the other. They never officially got it working, though.

I bought one on the cheap, and when you play to its strengths, it's a really fun piece of kit. It's like having a pocketable medium-format film camera. It certainly did not live up to its hype, and the $2000 price tag was just too steep. But the things it does well (such as architectural photography in good light), it does really well. Oddly, the Windows version of Lumen DOES reorient the pictures for portrait vs. landscape upon importing them.

Hey I have one of these and use it often for marketing and advertisement images. It's a really good camera for what I use it for and in decent light as long as you are a bit careful with focus and holding it steady it delivers fantastic quality images with great DOF from the Lumen software. Yes, the software is terribly clunky, the low light performance is rough, and the images from computational photography calculations can fail sometimes. But it's easy to throw in a pocket and get much better images than my phone, and I suppose that was the point.

@ninjak13

7 ай бұрын

you paid full price?

@havefilmwilltravel5860

7 ай бұрын

@@ninjak13 to be fair, no, I paid $150 on ebay. I understand price is a big component of perceived value, and I may not feel the same at $1600... But all digital cameras are of limited longterm value so meh.

@samuelalexander2992

7 ай бұрын

That's a lot of compromising for very little payoff. Did you buy this with your own money or was it a gift? Because if it's the former, I'd be very pissed that I paid four figures on a device that I have to handle with kid gloves, as opposed to running to Best Buy and picking up a thin Canon or an Olympus.

@definingslawek4731

7 ай бұрын

Honestly what phone do you have that it takes worse pictures than this thing?

@havefilmwilltravel5860

7 ай бұрын

@@definingslawek4731 no phone can touch the image quality from the Light L16 when used properly.

1:00 It doesn't just sound like a pokemon, it's literally only one letter away from Flareon, an actual pokemon.

The miracle is that it even worked with so much complexity

This was a great video bro. I’m not interested in any of this stuff but I clicked on it and watched the whole thing. Still feels like a cool idea if they could get a removable battery, SD card slot, and fix all the software issues you mention AND eventually drop the price (all easier said than done I know) I think it could become pretty popular.

Even the new super dupper iPhone 15 Pro Max is only capable of capture a high quality RAW video today, 2023, using an external storage unit, the software is not capable to store all that data while making it at the same time. The Verge showed a really good video about the new iPhone camera problems, and I think the problem with Light, apart this horrible and nightmare fuel looking, was to be way ahead of its time. The ISAC that cause the delays should be thought to be solution of this problems at that time, but it was way too beyond they. Hey, Crazy, great video, thanks and congratulations for your charity action. I hope something like that happens here in Brazil.

@definingslawek4731

7 ай бұрын

Incorrect, iphone does not shoot raw video, and incorrect, the feature you're referring to is not limited to external storage, external storage is a quality of life feature but the phone is capable of recording in the same quality internally.

@FriedChairs

7 ай бұрын

@@definingslawek4731 You can’t shoot 4k60 ProRes Log internally with the camera app. You have to connect external storage. Apps like Black Magic get around that limitation though.

@EmanuelCampos

7 ай бұрын

@@definingslawek4731 I don’t think we are talking about the same iPhone. Did you see that The Verge vídeo about te iPhone 15 recording problems?

1 million views to donate a $50 chromebook 💀

@I.C.Weiner

2 ай бұрын

How many Chromebooks do you donate?

@PrincessAuroralovespink

Ай бұрын

Where are you getting $50 Chromebooks? And it's better than a lot of KZreadrs do

Man, the build up from 8:00 is good!

Fascinating. I had never heard of this, unlike the light-field camera you mentioned. I would love for you to have a go at a Juicero after this but I think it's probably too far from your remit!

@ComputerClan

7 ай бұрын

The juicer product? : o

@zh84

7 ай бұрын

@@ComputerClan Yes. And it was sort of computer connected because it demanded to call home across the Internet to confirm you were using the right kind of juice package.

I have a friend who bought one of these when they first came out. He was always talking about how it would replace his Canons. I remember the day he got it. He went out to do some street shooting like a kid with a new toy. Not long after that he went straight back to his Canons. I asked about his new camera. All he would say was "I don't want to talk about it".

This was ahead of its time

Honestly looking at that camera, my first thought was how do I hold it without one of my fingers getting in the shot? The lenses need to shuffle over a little to give my left somewhere to grip.... Talking about Grip, I tried the Ridge but preferred the Grip 6 wallet, while the Ridge can hold more cards and won't launch them across the room after an over excited squeeze, I just prefer not having my cards held in place by stretchy material. Awesome video Man, keep them coming.

The doctors said the same thing about me!!!!LOL!!! awesome video!!! The thumbnail was epic!!!!

Dude that thumbnail is hilarious 😂

That "Power of Friendship" paralleled Nuptials

Came for the camera, stated for the science and psychology 😂 great stuff!

I love when people say "They spent X$ and still failed, can you believe that?". Of course I can believe it, spending money doesn't bring success. It can help, but plenty of companies/people still need to learn the lesson that burning money doesn't magically make your shit not stink, just ask Disney. Edit: Seems a lot of their problems boil down to their software. Would be the reason the autofocus and such doesn't work, could also impact performance when shooting/video'ing due to all the computations it has to do behind the scenes to get the right picture settings and such as well.

Another spot on video very interesting

My mom has literally thrown up from the word “cluster”. This is why she ended up not going to med school

Excellent video! Subscribed!

This has been the best tech review I have ever watched on KZread. Thank you very much for the bits of history, the practical experience and the good sense of humor. One serious doubt. I have a good 2023 Smartphone. For a new L16 with a sale price of $180 USD, is it any worth it? Greetings from Mexico.

This reinforces what I learned with the first digital camera I used. A 640x480, noisy jpeg camera. I would take multiple shots and then bring them to Photoshop to experiment. What did I learn? No processing can outdo a big sensor with a good lens. I did learn a few tricks to squeeze more quality out of a camera though, tricks that I can still apply to current day, amazing quality cameras!

all that changed when the fire nation attacked.. cracked me up lol

Great video You got good energy keep it coming.

I was sold when I found out that Human I-T works with Appalachian communities. The most under served communities in the country. That's some good stuff.

I remember seeing a guy who had this camera and I was jaw-dropped when he told me it was 2,000 bucks. I originally thought that it meant that it was worth the money, but seeing all buggy and "barebones" the camera was...yeaaah I'm glad I stuck to my phone cameras before I got my Rebel T7.

After updating it is a decent camera that is still fun to use for not a dedicated phone for $149. Also makes for a nice IHeartradio Offline media player with bluetooth.

Finally decided to subscribe on patreon, those wallpapers are so pretty