Good to see and hear how the English spoke and thought back in the day. Brilliant documentary, thanks for sharing 🙏

@frenchgoldenboyfan

7 күн бұрын

It’s amazing because in my country under yours French is going downhill at an amazing speed too ! Young adults have lost so much vocabulary it’s insane !

The fact that these criminals can talk and explain themselves really well compared to some of the knobs in prison today.

@Mistwalker67

3 жыл бұрын

Illiterate, spice fuelled meat heads today true.

@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah times are a changing for sure, and for the worst in this respect unfortunately.

@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610

3 жыл бұрын

@cross hatch2 True that!

@Stiffd1

2 жыл бұрын

F**k! Hope that fella is out and about today walking the str8. Army gave him discipline.

@1700iDiGuy

2 жыл бұрын

I know, now they are illiterate mongs that need sterilizing

imagine them interviewing people in UK prisons today for a documentary lol! ''Ya get me bruv!! I bare wetted him up. In here now fam. Ya get me?? Jail tings, fam....''

@v8cool231

18 күн бұрын

Innit like you know wot I mean

@Man_Raised_By_Puffins

18 күн бұрын

They don't make convicted criminals like they used to mate, we'll miss them now they're gone

@yungc5444

18 күн бұрын

Trust bruv what u sayin? mumzies good yh? Anuwaus wahalli send the ps to mans baby mum ting a dat for some baccy and ting g

@user-pv9kg9ou1l

18 күн бұрын

@@Man_Raised_By_Puffinsconvicted murderers 😂

@str0kedj

18 күн бұрын

brap brap blud

For anyone wondering what happened to the first guy, his appeal eventually made it to the House of Lords (which acted as the Supreme Court at the time) in 1985, where it was accepted i.e. his sentence was overturned. The case is called R v Moloney and it's an important case in the development of the law surrounding murder which all British law students learn about

@1stBowman

26 күн бұрын

Incredible how calm he was. I wonder how long he served for manslaughter and what happened to him when he was released.

@breakfast917

22 күн бұрын

Bang to rights

@user-ly8bq3tx5j

21 күн бұрын

​@@1stBowman he was trained to kill remember

@Saxonybedwitch

21 күн бұрын

One of the reasons I'm watching this is to listen to Moloney speak and talk about his stepfather. I'd heard my father talk about it. Indeed, shocking. Oblique intent!

@user-ly8bq3tx5j

21 күн бұрын

@@Saxonybedwitch you have only HIS word for that....we weren't there

excellent doco. got depth to it...and no pathetic background music attempting to tell you how to feel.

@Ken_oh545

22 күн бұрын

As a musician I agree with this sentiment entirely - nothing more irritating than unwelcome music

@KinEllKokabel

20 күн бұрын

@@Ken_oh545👆This

@robertbryan4640

20 күн бұрын

The standard of sociological documentary and investigative film back up until the 1990s was just much better.

@KinEllKokabel

20 күн бұрын

@@robertbryan4640 I’m watching ‘em lately. Great to listen to as I potter around my flat 👍🏻

@robertbryan4640

19 күн бұрын

@KinEllKokabel there was a series called 'man alive' on BBC. Have a look at them.

Great to see old school documentaries like this 👌

@CharlieEdward25

8 ай бұрын

💯 %

@derp8575

3 ай бұрын

You can say that again, pecker head!

@Ickie71

10 күн бұрын

As soon as "Linda" the gay murderer appeared i remembered i've seen this documentary sometime in the late 1980's or possibly early 90s. Most Documentarys back then were really good, i guess you could say it was the decade of the Docs!.

The first story is a great example of having a positive mental attitude. Four years in the army can instill discipline.

11:23 "What have you done about your alcoholism now you're inside?" "Well, I've stopped drinking."

Look how well and well spoken young people were. Now go and watch Michael palins ‘confessions of a railway spotter’ filmed in the same year. Look at how beautiful and stunning the uk looked both in London and the north whilst he made his way from London to Scotland.

@stuartj1234

19 күн бұрын

And now look at the state!!

@IngramCars

18 күн бұрын

in 1980 you would listen to people on TV programmes 10 or 20 years previously and think they were more polite and better spoken!

@DJ-GOLD-TRIGGER-81

17 күн бұрын

So true. Now look at it. Utter shit hole

@hicmad

6 күн бұрын

@@IngramCars They were, standard have slowly dropped, not sure when it started but there are documentaries of highland crofters and people in slums etc that are well spoken, working class accent but quite good at communicating their thoughts.

@workhorse7134

9 сағат бұрын

And then watch the TV comedy show Porridge. Good times to be growing up in England compared to today after the immigrant invasions of the last 40 years.

Why do prisons back then seem almost safer and more cultured than British streets today? 🤔

@teddiemack8071

3 күн бұрын

diversity

@andysaunders3708

3 күн бұрын

Because they were.

@astroemerald3175

3 күн бұрын

Too many lenient Judges and do gooders who let thi garbage out onto the street .

@mikepxg6406

2 күн бұрын

Immigration

It's so weird how peoples accents change over the years. The voices seem softer, yet more mature. Maybe they just interviewed the best talkers?

@kitharrison8799

21 күн бұрын

Kids these days put on that daft rap/grime gibberish innit.

@tylersweet5994

21 күн бұрын

@@kitharrison8799 Also need to add several 'Likes' in every sentence as well.

@young_legend8091

20 күн бұрын

@@kitharrison8799was the good days of England a time where I would have been proud to call this my home now I dread it. Immigration and adding culture diversity has destroyed England for good. The next generations our gonna be even more fucked!

@Ickie71

10 күн бұрын

Nope. This todays generation really is that diffrent!.

Wow iam amazed how eloquent these people are

@DMWBN3

15 күн бұрын

Shows how the English language has been butchered by outside influence. England was better 20+ years ago.

Stay sober and don't fuck around with shotguns.

@fredmercury1314

16 күн бұрын

Or at least don't do them at the same time. lol

@tuforu4

6 күн бұрын

Avoid. Ireland. As. We'll.

No TV's or play stations back in them days, a radio, piss pot and a few scud mags.

@m75s87

21 күн бұрын

Scud mags 😂😂 Tremendous 80’s dialect!

@DMWBN3

15 күн бұрын

Scud mags 😂 Skin flicks. Jizz mags.😂

@Ickie71

10 күн бұрын

never heard that term scud? wank mags over here!

@terryfishbourne6927

7 күн бұрын

Scud mags 😂😂😂 Jesus I haven't heard that for years dude. Just spat my beer out 😂😂

@terryfishbourne6927

7 күн бұрын

​@@m75s87I had same reaction mate

When the UK was a very different place

@derp8575

3 ай бұрын

Diversity is terrible.

@1stBowman

26 күн бұрын

It was in the process of changing. Unions being destroyed plus mass immigration - many of them unskilled. England lost its identity and is now one of the wokest, craziest, places in the English speaking world. Imagine telling these blokes that biological men would hold records in women's sports and that you could go to gaol for intentionally misgendering someone. Sad.

@th8257

21 күн бұрын

​@@derp8575and you're a russian troll

@th8257

21 күн бұрын

Why would it be the same? This was literally last century

@user-pe2pt2bs7x

21 күн бұрын

Diversity is our strength 😂😂😂

Would much rather be in prison in the 80’s that the 2020’s !!

@Hoxton66

11 күн бұрын

I was lucky to be, than now

A lot of people get life for bumping off troublesome family members - makes me feel a bit better about having no contact with mine.

@StuartWhelan-up8vs

21 күн бұрын

Your not alone l lived on a farm my dad was a horrible man with drink in him l wanting to plenty of times l had a shotgun when l was 11 many years later l talked him out of killing himself when my mam left him l got no thanks for it why l rescue dogs never been married lm happy doing my own thing

@jonjames7328

19 күн бұрын

@@StuartWhelan-up8vsbless you Stuart. I wish you all the best.

@richardmorgan607

14 күн бұрын

Stuart glad your doing ok and looking after yourself and your dogs.

@tuforu4

6 күн бұрын

Land and property. Wills. Cause. Murders.

A phenomenal documentary. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

As of 2024 I’d like to see a update video of these mam and their life.

The searing honesty is incredible .

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

I know. For me it's the brevity in the way they talk, they just get straight to the point, no messing about.

@truetothegame2928

6 ай бұрын

they got chocolates / cigarettes for their interviews - never trust the television

@paulmcdonough1093

20 күн бұрын

@@truetothegame2928 who cares

@Ickie71

10 күн бұрын

you wouldnt get that with the shits of today.

@truetothegame2928

Күн бұрын

@@paulmcdonough1093 you do because you replied 😝

"So I went upstairs and grabbed a couple of shotguns".......like you do!

@edforbes1563

20 күн бұрын

What could possibly go wrong??

@bowwowrapha7790

16 күн бұрын

@@edforbes1563 When you're drunk? Nothing!!

Said it for years the amount of people doing time being drunk/drugged is phenomenal.

Many thanks for this, top man. If you have any more of this series or even the follow up in 2003. I' be very grateful. all the best.

@CharlieEdward25

5 жыл бұрын

I have it but you have to watch it with a american vpn enabled its called lifers as well sadly channel 4 blocked it in this country as it caused a lot of problems with the victims family

@garypilling1968

4 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieEdward25 many thanks for your videos . I am out of the UK and VPN enabled . Is the other video on your page ? As I can't see it . Kind regards

@CharlieEdward25

4 жыл бұрын

@@garypilling1968 other video ?

@garypilling1968

4 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieEdward25 sorry you mentioned above you had one of the follow up ones to lifers unless I misread it

@CharlieEdward25

4 жыл бұрын

@@garypilling1968 yeah i had the latest one its there on my channel but needs a vpn yeah usa i think works

Just come from the 1972 Women in prison. Man alive series. Filmed in Holloway. A woman in the comments section mentioned this documentary so great that I've found it. 👍. I'm almost 37, first went prison in 2004, last 2019. Prison was different (lots of changes) throughout those years, so to see prison in the 70's and 80's is crazy! I love how they spoke back then! And it doesn't seem full of wannabe badboys and chavvy girls. Lol (Not judging as met some brilliant girls throughout the years, but there's always a few gobby cows who's bark is bigger than their bite) .

@CharlieEdward25

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy these few other good prison docs on the channel 😀

@BradCollier-zn2uc

18 күн бұрын

Gobby Cows 😂 haven't heard that one 😂😂😂

@BullyBoxer

18 күн бұрын

@@CharlieEdward25any first or 2nd names to the lifers in this film ?

@DMWBN3

15 күн бұрын

I'm glad you kept out since 2019! Keep it up. Had a close call a few times,especially, thankfully, never been in. Thought of doing any time with the dinlos you see about these days fills me with dread more so than the sentence! Good docu, there a few good ones on KZread from 70s & 80s. Good film about runaways in London called Johnny Come Home.

amazing vintage uk doc

The first man is unbelievable.

I've been in prison with many lifers,and most of them have told me the biggest punishment is the one they put on themselves, living with the fact that you have taken someone's life many told me is harder than doing the life sentence itself. I told them, tell that to the relatives of that deceased person!!!

@lewissmith3896

19 күн бұрын

Exactly James.

@Ickie71

10 күн бұрын

Of course you did james ofc you did!.

The guy there calling Alistair is a relative of mine,it happened many years ago and I was very young. Almost all of the family stories I've heard of it is,,, his dad was very tough on him(a prick of a man by the sound of it) and when Alistair came home from the army his dad continued to bring him down, and from what I've been told by certain family members that the only trueth in his story he told about what happened that night is,,yeah they both went out with shotguns. But his evil old step dad used the competition to get him out, but then started to belittle him and called him a coward and something along the line of,,, even the army couldn't make a killer of a cowardly idiot like you! and then pointed his shotgun at him, threatening to shoot him in the knees Alistair got scared and angry then retaliated, and as you heard in his own words "accidentally"🙄 shot him in the side of the head.

@kebabtank

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this with us mate. I hope Alistair is well? What did he do with his life when he got out? All the best.

@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610

3 жыл бұрын

@@kebabtank I'm not really sure what he's doing now, and after my dad died (the side of the family he is from) I don't see much of them much and there is a few crazy relative's on my dad's side lol but I haven't ever met him in person only seen him in this and an old family photo years ago but I'll always remember that story in the family and that is all I can honestly tell you, thanks for sharing this, it was a cousin of mine who told me about this video being on here 👍

@BlytheWorld1972

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info he was a lovely young lad in this film smart too i really hope he got his life back on track you can tell that lad is not a bad person .

@RetroRegan

Жыл бұрын

Someone in the comments further down said that he won his appeal and was released in 1985.

@weedee1477

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting us know what happened for him to be where he is. So sad that his evil dad did this to him. He seems such a good person, I really hope he made something of his life when he got out. Sending some love to him from a wee Scottish lassie. 💕Glasgow 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

this is rare...from the 80s bloody hell verry rare..

The amount of people in for committing their crimes while drunk is scary

@BullyBoxer

18 күн бұрын

More in for what they smoke trust me .

@dg9015

16 күн бұрын

Alcohol is deadly

@mattgosling2657

16 күн бұрын

Yeah mate drink and these days especially drugs, they cause so many one off offences that can ruin lives too often.

@bowwowrapha7790

16 күн бұрын

Don't hang out with drunks. It's a nightmare existence. I know, because I was there, once upon a time!!

@HairyKnuckles222

5 күн бұрын

@@BullyBoxer yes in todays age mate, not back then so much.

Amazing footage with the fella who was with Bob maudsley.. mad to see that..thanks

@mattgosling2657

16 күн бұрын

Never at 13 minutes was that Bob Maudsley? I feel bad for that guy a bit.

@paulwoods3161

11 күн бұрын

The guys name is David Cheeseman.

@tedwards1604

10 күн бұрын

​@@paulwoods3161do you know what happened to him? Cheers

Just watching this and it’s excellent. Would love to know what became of some the inmates.

@CharlieEdward25

3 жыл бұрын

One of the best

@TheGBs1972

3 жыл бұрын

@@virusoaxzy9727 That great time hear. Just goes to show how people can make a success of their lives despite things not always going to plan.

Great documentary, very informative. People were a lot more articulate in the past, don’t know if it’s because of the education system or today’s social environment.

“Million pound and helicopter” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@CharlieEdward25

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌 classic

@edforbes1563

20 күн бұрын

Fuck it, just give us a bottle of pernod!

@Raggandrist

17 күн бұрын

I pissed myself at that too.

Amazing that the prisoners serving a life sentence back then speak more clearly and have more dignity than most people nowadays.

A very cold character the first guy. But an army man who didn’t know he was pointing a gun at someone? Not so sure about that.

@CharlieEdward25

5 жыл бұрын

Couldn't work it out myself probs a drunken arguement possibly we will never no :(

@kc8181

4 жыл бұрын

In fairness, these guys were a product of the WW2 generation. I think they were more blind about things. More matter of fact. It was a survival strategy used by their parents or themselves. But I still think an army man k own where a gun is pointing though.

@kc8181

4 жыл бұрын

In fairness, these guys were a product of the WW2 generation. I think they were more blind about things. More matter of fact. It was a survival strategy used by their parents or themselves. But I still think an army man k own where a gun is pointing though.

@CharlieEdward25

4 жыл бұрын

@@kc8181 for sure i was brought up by my grandparents grandad was in dday at sword beach landing they where very strict on me i personally found them days a lot better then today

@quantro65

4 жыл бұрын

He won his appeal, got out in 85 .

The artist guy is fascinating to listen to. Inteligent and articulate, explaining his crime with no bullshit. Eye opener, scary really how one bad decision in a moment of anger could conceivably happen for anyone and lead to someone dying and another being locked up. Heat of the moment.

I watched a video today about a 20 plus yr old who cot 110 years because his truck breaks failed. He could have been delivering medical supplies on a regular basis

I had a good time in the Scrubs in the hot summer of 1976. Plenty of books, exercise every morning and evening, a cell of my own, plenty of food, cats running everywhere.

@nickpn23

3 жыл бұрын

And the architecture is some of the finest Victoriana I've seen.

@nickpn23

3 жыл бұрын

@cross hatch2 Blue plastic spoons. big mugs of tea and a cake each evening after lock-up. Bliss!

@nickpn23

3 жыл бұрын

The pottery I'm not so sure.

@rexterrocks

3 жыл бұрын

I was there in 85 and there were 3 of us to a cell. I'd only give it 2 stars.

@nickpn23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rexterrocks I was awaiting a psychiatric decision and was in hospital with Ian Brady and Graham Young, poisoner. Saw John Stonehouse MP when he arrived. 300 young prisoners shouting out from B wing 'Do your bird Stonehouse, you cunt.'

Getting old is a TRIP

Rubber dolls for prisoners 😂 . We must start a campaign for rubber dolls .

@Mrmallet777

19 күн бұрын

His ass is getting pummeled

@Stanly-Stud

18 күн бұрын

More like dildos

He said he could not remember a thing due to being so drunk, yet he explained everything what happened. Thats why he was found guilty of murder, he could not use being intoxicated, as a defence for manslaughter.

@nickpn23

3 жыл бұрын

You can't anyway. Intoxication is no defence in British law.

@Donaldtrunp2024

3 жыл бұрын

he said was going with what evidence says

@SiLoJayLo

2 жыл бұрын

Why are you looking to catch him out?! Who set YOU up to be his judge?! You're not fit for that purpose..................

@anenglishlassxx116

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Mangraper

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickpn23 Actually it can be used as a way of removing intent from certain crimes.

I like the segment from 15:05 to 17:13. It is refreshing to hear someone talk in this way.

The guy talking at 40 mins plus deserves a whole life sentence

Madness how quite a of these people will still be in prison at this current moment.

@eyefishinggunkchannel1011

2 жыл бұрын

this was the 80s now that is 42 years ago u only get 15 for a murder or a bit more none of them will be still in

@odorlesslebs8055

2 жыл бұрын

They are doing 15 years

@ptrekboxbreaks5198

Жыл бұрын

​@@odorlesslebs8055 the very first kid had a life sentence

@igor-yp1xv

Жыл бұрын

@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 they explain in the video that a life sentence in the uk doesn't actually mean the person will stay locked up until they die, they can be released but it depends when. Most serve p about 10 years.

@kebabtank

Жыл бұрын

@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 He got out in 1985 after an appeal.

I'm watching this after just watching the documentary Broadmoor - Serial Killers & High Security, where the hostage/murder by Robert Maudsley was a subject. What a coincidence that his co-conspirator David Cheeseman is starring in this docu talking about the incident 41:28. Great docu, thanks for sharing. Cheers from the Netherlands

@leetlbt

21 күн бұрын

Here's a canny channel about serial killers its a bit different thats for sure (LOLFIELDANDLOVE) The Satanic conspiracy

Ah - the bomber jacket - the hoodie of the 80s 😂

@DMWBN3

15 күн бұрын

Sta-Press, waffle cardigans, Ben Shermans, DM's, solo belts & M15 jacket.

Have you any other rare prison documentary there such good to watch thanks buddy👍

@CharlieEdward25

2 жыл бұрын

I have a few i need to edit and upload just haven't got around to them yet check out the channel some good stuff prison wise bud

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

@@CharlieEdward25 I'd love to see those docs mate. I am very interested in docs from the 70's and 80s, they just have a brutal reality to them. I'd love to see the 'Lifer' series from the 80s as it was originally broadcast. The follow up from 2003 was superb and I do wonder if another follow up is coming up? All the best.

30:40 theres a fine line between genius and insanity and this fella is walking right along it.

@MrGoneTroppo

Жыл бұрын

"I picked up a hammer that was lying on the side" - he's lucky I can never find a hammer when I need one

@granitesevan6243

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGoneTroppo have you looked in the toolbox?

@MrChipz900

Жыл бұрын

I’m assuming he never got out. Fascinating listen.

@MrChipz900

Жыл бұрын

Also, imagine how mental the blokes are he chooses to avoid 🤣

Sending the guy to the counter for some stamps was actually a rather clever test of honesty

Yes. I think people were a bit stronger. I think stoic is the word. I wonder what happened to these guys. I was nineteen in 82.

Different criminals back then unlike today

That guy Dennis who killed his mother - why on earth should that guy decide his own fate? His poor mother that he murdered likely begged for her life but he didn’t listen so why should the prison system to him? He wants a quick easy way out because he’s got ‘nothing to look forward to’ rather than serving his life sentence well tough it doesn’t work like that. If someone murdered me or a loved one and then was caught, I’d be pretty pi**ed if the offender got to dictate their life thereafter as to what suited them best like choosing to just take a nice little pill to put them to sleep i.e escape their punishment!

@thecoural

10 күн бұрын

Some of the comments here ridiculous talking about how well they speak who cares they murderers and should never come out

Note all the male interviewees had neatly rolled shirt sleeves with a white reverse showing. Shirts like that were a bit of a status thing in those days, with the alpha types picking them out of the stack on laundry day. It seemed to be a thing that professional villains did, as they had a real thing about neatness and cleanliness. They often grabbed a few white towels and laid them on the shelves and table in their cell like table clothes. It was a thing. Many if not most of the rest of the prisoners were indifferent to that pose or too shambolic to care. I reckon the cons in this video were given the best shirts for their appearances in front of the cameras.

@moominmay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this insight I don’t feel so weird now for getting a little distracted with the first guys shirt thinking how nice the rolled up sleeves were considering where he was! 😅

@nickpn23

2 жыл бұрын

@@moominmay I knew it would bother some people, so I thought I'd explain.

@Neddyfram

5 ай бұрын

@@moominmayI think that’s the army tbh, looking at soldiers during the time they have their sleeves exactly the same

The punishment is losing their liberty that doesn’t mean treat them like animals. Treat people like animals they’ll act like animals.

Anyone know where I can find the end of this documentary?

That kids story, and I do believe him, is the saddest thing I have ever heard. Men aren't the same. A 'man' twice his age these days wouldn't be so willing to stand up and take responsibility for their actions. Not blame others. Not say things are wrong and they are being wronged. I feel so bad for him.

@user-pv9kg9ou1l

18 күн бұрын

Pleading not guilty and claiming blackout drunk insomnia isn't taking responsibility for your actions. The state of these comments. Folk saying the murderers back then were better than now. A murderer is still a Murderer, regardless of when in history.!

@karenwilson9528

17 күн бұрын

@@user-pv9kg9ou1l Well, I wrote what I wrote because I believed him. I didn't think his assertion that he was blackout drunk was a lie to get out of responsibility. I believe he was drunk; things went down just as he said, and now he owns that and is taking responsibility. It's a tragic waste all around - that's what gets me, I suppose.

Joyce is talking herself in to more time here... "I've not changed"

1750 Lifers in 1980, Forwards to today The UK has the highest number of life-sentenced prisoners of any country in Europe, the latest edition of the Prison Reform Trust's Bromley Briefings Prison Fact file reveals. There are 8,554 people in prison in the UK serving a life sentence-more than France, Germany and Italy combined.11 Dec 2018. It IS Doubling every decade! No wonder its in such a state in 2024!

I knew Trevor Kane intervied in this video 22:11 he died in a subway in Ashton Under Lyne. Freedom is very important, to go out for a walk, stand at a bus stop waiting in the rain for a bus. Things these men could only dream of doing for years and years.

@CharlieEdward25

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing sad to hear that 😢

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

Hello there, many thanks for sharing this sad news. I remember there was an article in the Times in 2003 about Trevor, shortly before the follow up to the first Lifer series was broadcast. And for me, Trevors' story was the most interesting of the lot. I was fascinated with his military and subsequent criminal background, and although he seemed very troubled in the follow up series (I believe he was in his sixties by then) he appeared to be living quite comfortably. He served a very long sentence and had a very chaotic life as a younger man, but it was so sad to see him weeping when he talked about the murder he committed later in life. Could I ask you, when did Trevor die? How old was he? And what were the circumstances? All the best.

@Sameoldfitup

2 жыл бұрын

@@kebabtank kzread.info/dash/bejne/aq2Cx9h6Ya-edpM.html

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sameoldfitup Many thanks.

The penal system isn't designed to rehabilitate. It's designed to break. No such thing as reform.

@starryian007

2 жыл бұрын

True, but many people cannot be reformed anyway.

@eyefishinggunkchannel1011

2 жыл бұрын

i was reformed 100%

@Mangraper

2 жыл бұрын

@@eyefishinggunkchannel1011 You reformed you not the prison system

@gurney2931

5 ай бұрын

Certainly was true, I couldn't tell you about nowadays.

@CymruEmergencyResponder

11 күн бұрын

The Scandinavian prison systems would beg to differ.

Am on a life sentence not for murder but to protect the public. My minimum tarrif was 7 years only got out 11 months ago now

@CharlieEdward25

3 жыл бұрын

Just actually read this how's it going bud must be mad coming out after that long hope u keeping well bro

@joulupukki1607

3 жыл бұрын

What happened? I mean if u were protectin other ppl how u get so much time

The bloke talking at 40:00 plus is not mad. He is articulate, aware and can understand everything he has done.

@quack437

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the guy he calls bob that helped him is robert maudsley known as Hannibal the cannibal

@SimDeck

2 жыл бұрын

@@quack437 I read your comment yesterday and today in our local paper there was a full article about Maudsley. You are right btw.

@quack437

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimDeck i was thinking that cus the case sounds similar wee fact although hes called a cannibal he never ate anyone

@supergrahamg

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, are you confused ? ; that is why he is a psychopath. The point is that these people are bad, not mad, i.e. they are malign, evil etc. Please note that we are hearing his version of events which is not contested, and, surprise, surprise, he presents himself as either not psychologically present at the events (though no mention of drugs etc), or as some kind of victim of circumstance.....No one has to beat someone's brains out with a hammer...if he was being exploited by someone, walk out of the front door......People are in Broadmoor because they are untreatable and fucking dangerous !!!!

@marcp3788

Жыл бұрын

He's a nonce, called David Cheeseman

Lifer (1983) Rex Bloomstein / Thames Television

Reminds me of release for early dinners at school..Treacle Tart. Only if you’re good, mind!

So many faults in the convictions delivered. One questions the suitability of the jury system.

I was in the Scrubs in 1980. It was a hot summer that year, 3 to a cell, 23 hour bang-up.

@Stanly-Stud

18 күн бұрын

Must have stunk of piss, shit & sweat 😮

did you record this yourself fab quality

@jaycool5285

5 жыл бұрын

BlytheWorld1972 it’s 1980 dumbass what did you expect?

@maskoff9292

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaycool5285 😂😂😂

@BlytheWorld1972

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaycool5285 what are you talking about ya fuck .

Fascinating.

At 21:37 the inmate with a budgie in his cell, theres something about it that strikes me as so sadly poetic about that. A prison within a prison. Two inmates, one presumably guilty, the other innocent and the innocent one imprisoned as a reward for the guilty

@diggintheblueswithaparrot1329

11 күн бұрын

He was wrongly convicted in a famous murder case ( he was doing time for that whilst this was being made ) and was released after 20 something years,..he was a career criminal.

End part ,the fella sounds like red at his parole meeting at end off shawshank film 🤔

It made rather a mess ... 😬

I wonder what happened to all these lifers. How many of them would still be inside today, 40 years on.

@kebabtank

Жыл бұрын

Alright mate. There was a follow up to this programme broadcast in 2003 and half were out, half were still in and some were on the run! The young lad at the beginning, the ex-soldier, got out in 1985 on appeal and the man with the drop moustache @ 21:45 is a man called Trevor Kane. He was an ex-squaddie and French Foreign Legionaire (an amazing life story) and he died a few years ago in either Newcastle or Ashton undey lyme. And btw, if any of the others are still in, I'd be amazed. They are either elderly or dead, apart from the young lad, he'd be in his sixties now. All the best.

@lymarie1974

10 ай бұрын

​@@kebabtankthank you for the update.

@A_M_P_

6 күн бұрын

​@kebabtank Where can we find the 2003 follow up?

@kebabtank

4 күн бұрын

@@A_M_P_ Some of it is on KZread in bits and pieces from other docs by Rex Bloomstein and cobbled together. Just put 'Uk prison 1982' into your search bar and go from there. I clearly remember the follow up and recorded it on video at the time. Unfortunately, I have no means or the inclination to spend the money to put it on the tube. Best wishes.

@A_M_P_

4 күн бұрын

@kebabtank Thank you. I found one follow up video so far. I'm an American so I don't know much at all about UK prisons. This was definitely an eye-opener. What shocks me the most, however, is how eloquent those prisoners were lol

Wow! So this guy was with Mordsley when they did the whole 'brain spoon' thing?

"So how long you been doing a life sentence " . Reply " o week last Friday now "!!! Jesus

That's a manslaughter charge

Guy near beginning describing how he shot his father in detail, then says he doesn't remember a thing, that he had total amnesia.

So sad really how a persons life can be changed forever because of a serious wrong action.

@gurney2931

5 ай бұрын

What about their dead victims ? Their lives have also been changed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One towards the end that pushed his wife off a cliff. Am I understanding this right. Pushes her off a cliff, goes and gets her, takes her home, puts her to bed, she dies in the night, he finds her dead in morning?

If all screws were like this guy talking with the inmate prisons would run more smoother there is good screws you know give respect to them

@jamiecoulson1016

20 күн бұрын

We all know you was the screws favourite con . You was definitely the screws teaboy

“I’ll have a pair of breast before I get out” ........you’ll have a sore arse first mate!!! 😂😂😂

Jail today is 80 percent junkies 10 percent polish and 10 percent just normal guys getting there head down and getting on with it.

I'd love to see an update on the people in this.

@CharlieEdward25

3 жыл бұрын

@boxing fan uk yeah it's here on my channel I'm sure

@Dannydawson537

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure I’ve seen it it takes you to the 90s and most of these guys are in hospitals and don’t look nothing like they did

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dannydawson537 Yeah, there was an update that was broadcast in 2003, they looked at four who had been released and four who were still inside. And you're right, they all looked nothing like they used to. Prison left it's mark alright.

@Dannydawson537

2 жыл бұрын

@@kebabtank hi and the difference in the lads was sad just pumped with medication I was in strange ways late 89s and was a very hard place for a 16 year old

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dannydawson537 Alright mate. Sorry to hear about your stay inside, I just hope that you stayed out and made something of your life.

My uncle spent two years in Brookshire because he broke into an abandoned hospital and stole a gynecologist chair. He thought it'd be funny to tie it to the back of my grandma's car using a super long rope. She pulled out of her driveway and went up the road about 50 yards when the gyno chair whipped out of her driveway and took off behind her. He made sure the rope was long enough that she wouldn't notice. Well, she didn't notice for a couple miles during that time the gyno chair was banging and scraping into things on the sides of the road. I guess she went around a sharp turn and the gynecologist chair struck a guy on a bicycle. They estimated the chair had to be moving at high speed considering the damage it did to him and his bike. It also weighed a ton which didn't help matters any.

1st class stamps were cheap back then, I couldn't believe it recently when I bought a book of ten I think it was over £10. More than a pound to send a simple letter and I think they're going up again soon.

Pretty sure the guy talking at 44 mins about the murder in Broadmoor is talking about robert mauldley who was referred to as bob ..

@bokane1963

2 жыл бұрын

He is

@RUTHLESS243

16 күн бұрын

At 19:02 That's Robert Mauldley right there sitting next to the guy That's talking

Screws were brutal in the Scrubs in the 80s and early 90s.

@daibennett9224

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Murphy all prisons back then was brutal

@dragonfitter

4 жыл бұрын

I would imagine when dealing with men as violent as these that brutal would be the best way to keep them in order

@kevm4035

4 жыл бұрын

@@dragonfitter 2 wrongs don't make it right...Screws are trained only to use control and restraint techniques by home office approval, anything ie kicks,punches, beatings is a criminal act.

@alogan5590

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevm4035 true but shame it doesn't work like that 😕

@nibbagee3640

2 жыл бұрын

I'm assuming it's just like Scum

He’s a VERY articulate young Man. Surely he would be better off in a High powered career.

These ppl will all be out now its 42 years ago wow that sounds crazy..in the 2000s i was like 12 and you looked bk at the 80s and 90 and would say its 10 or 20 years ago which sounded ok but we are now in 2022 and this was 42 years ago 42 years and its rare for sum1 2 be given a full life sentence in america life is life

Does anyone got the 7th shoe about the nonse called they call us the beasts please help

How refreshing someone how would like the death penalty back. Good man

@MrChipz900

Жыл бұрын

Disgusting in my view. Imagine the guy who has a duty of care for people advocating their hanging.

Hmm yeah ok I can’t believe a soldier of 4 years doesn’t know muzzle discipline 😂

Wonder where they are now

I wonder when it said average time spent in prison for life is 10 years there is one man who been inside for 30 year, wonder if that was Bronson

@craigmuscat613

5 жыл бұрын

jnicemint ahh okay 👍

@burnsy6982

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't of been. Charlie was sentenced in '74 this is in '82 he'd of only been inside for 8yrs when this was filmed. ✌️

@nickpn23

3 жыл бұрын

Probably George Davis (NOT that George Davis) who murdered an officer by running over him in a jeep. I was with him in 1976 and he'd served something like 27 years by then.

@kebabtank

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickpn23 Do you know if George Davis was ever released?

@Roscoe.P.Coldchain

2 жыл бұрын

He only got 3 years or something for robbery and never came out..

The siege guy, I want a million pounds and a helicopter, police :: No, Guy, ok a bottle of Pernod then 🤣🤣

@cooldiamondguy3376

Жыл бұрын

So funny

1:05:11 Why is she laughing and why is the interviewer laughing when they are talking about an old woman being beaten to death??

like the piano bit 👍

That guy who dose art anyone have information about him

@version736ha2

Жыл бұрын

Just what I was going to ask. Interesting guy.

Take me back to t5he 80s anyday as once the 2000s hit everything went to the s hit house. ( world wide that is.

That pianist guy is a strange case. A murderer with a conscience. I just don’t understand how he got himself into that situation. Imagine doing such a horrible thing then ringing the police to tell them