I went with Ryan romance and when he didn’t believe me it truly hurt. Alex is injured and explaining that Jed did this to her, that he tried to kill her. I understand why he didn’t believe me and I didn’t hate him for it but I didn’t love him anymore.

@navymustang4687

2 жыл бұрын

That’s on you for not making him believe you

@KIWIMADNEZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@navymustang4687 Whatever… 🖕🙄

@bean6453

2 жыл бұрын

@@navymustang4687 do you have a single brain cell? That ending is so unrealistic

@navymustang4687

2 жыл бұрын

@@bean6453 I never said it was realistic, I’m just saying it’s up to the player to make him believe you, and that it’s not hard, I agree it’s unrealistic, calm yourself lmao

@bean6453

2 жыл бұрын

@@navymustang4687 why would you tell them to get one of the most ridiculous endings LMAOOOO and then wonder why people disagree

Alex hadn't even been reunited with gabe for a week before she lost him. And she had already lost both of her parents prior. Ryan was best friends with gabe. Ryan was the 2nd person alex told about her powers with the 1st person being gabe. When ryan was all sulking despite what alex was going through and feeling she cheered him up. And made him feel better. Yet when she needed him the most he had let her down. Unlike steph. She was concerned for Alex. Always had her back. Apologizes for leaving if you lash out at her and ryan. Is understanding and supportive.

@cutepinkyo

7 күн бұрын

Yeah also i feel like steph is on your side no matter what she's such an og 😭

I would forgive Alex , mainly cause in the end he barely knew Alex and she was accusing his dad which is the man who raised him and saw nothing but doin good things for him and Haven Springs.

@Athmel

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He only even believes Alex if the other people he's known most of his life also believes her.

it’s the fact she walked in with bullet wounds and dirty and ryan still didn’t believe her, i wouldn’t forgive him either

@dami_mage

11 ай бұрын

I mean, she could’ve injured herself in another way. And anyway, Jed was still his father. It’s not that easy to believe that you father is a criminal, you know

Even though he took my side in my playthrough i could never choose not to forgive him. In my ending i left Haven with him.

@sunmoon8131

11 ай бұрын

Me too

Gabe is dead, Jed killed and lied, and for the last shot: Alex rejected Ryan's apologies. In my point of view as a concept, this route could give a tragic ending to Ryan. Fragile things can be broken. So, Ryan's gonna feel that his life is a lie, so just like Kate Marsh, he tries to kill himself, on the same place Gabe died, but this time no one can stop him. Two options: Ryan can jump like Kate or Ryan is gonna use Jed's gun to end himself (like if the gun represents all the Jed's lies and crimes and this is the concequence of this ending) until he falls. Tragic and sad, but better than knowing nothing about what happen to him after the events (except when you follow the Ryan's love route).

I rather him to keep silent and turn away like he’s in turmoil of what to believe. Then the dialogue he actually had when he doesn’t want to against his dad and doesn’t believe you.

@bean6453

2 жыл бұрын

Literally. Itd be understandable if he didnt immediately start attacking alex, it was so shitty to do - especially to someone half dead

@Athmel

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's actually a great alternative. But I also think players would still hate Ryan because what they want is unconditional support, even turning away would be bad. In this aspect, compared to Steph - Ryan always looks worse. To build on your idea, I would not have had Alex confront Ryan at all, because I thought it was tacky and super inappropriate. Have the camera pan to him looking despondent and then have him speak up at the end, on his own. And if he does believe Alex, it's reluctantly because Jed is still his dad. And if he doesn't believe her, then he suggests she's delirious or something like that. I think it's a nice balance between a Ryan that totally believes Alex on the jump - which I hate the idea of. And Ryan calling Alex a liar, which was more nuanced than that, but whatever.

People, Alex being injured and bloodied isn't proof that Jed, in particular, tried to kill her. The state of her injuries don't prove that anyone tried to do anything to her. A grazed bullet could be likely be misidentified as her scraping her head on a rock. It could be reasonably argued she simply fell into the mineshaft. If she said she had fallen into the mineshaft by accident, it's not as if someone would've said "Are you sure? It looks like Jed tried to kill you!" People like to point to Steph as a comparison to Ryan, and I'd point out that Steph is a newcomer and has little to no ties to the town. It's really nothing life changing for her whatever Alex's motives. Leaving the town is much bigger for Ryan than Steph.

@knighthawke5605

11 ай бұрын

Steph has been there since 2016 she's been there long enough with Gabe and Ryan to have influence on what and how he feels and what is a lie vs truth it's like if you don't try to help others especially at a period in time where not only your own flesh and blood dies before you got a real chance to the know the man Gabe turned out to be thanks to Haven Springs and the people he surrounded himself you might as well say you never gave him or yourself a chance to be more this game was meant to show so much more than what you see at Face Value.

Steph was the easy romance Ryan ending always hurt my heart Steph leaves and you can just get the bad ending with Ryan and alex is alone Steph ending was cute and so easy to romance her and she'll always believe alex I'm a chengrich fan. I love you too Ryan but I just don't see alex and Ryan. I only see steph and alex. Why did they make Ryan likeable and cute I just want Ryan to myself.

Wow, that broke my heart, dude. I never felt angry cause he didnt support me, I could easily understand him. Come on, we're talking about his father. I didnt eanna be a dick to him in not forgiving him.

@matcha9250

11 ай бұрын

i feel like alot of people playing these games dont understand them. they lack empathy and introspection so bad. putting yourself in ryans shoes for a millisecond would make you side with him instantly (lost his mom, only has his dad, his dad is the most influential and revered person in the entire town, he looks up to him for everything, he’s all hes ever known. versus alex, a girl hes known for LESS THAN A YEAR) like ryan haters need to grow a brain and realize anyone with a heart would side with their beloved parent over a stranger with a bad past.

@BryanGolphin-ok9xq

10 ай бұрын

​@@matcha9250shut yo bitch ass up they aren't a real person

@sashakarasawa5794

Ай бұрын

@@matcha9250funny you said that because alex literally is a empath who has to bear everyone else’s pain and emotions also help to heal them, while nobody put themselves ever in her shoes when she need it. Kinda yikes

@matcha9250

Ай бұрын

@@sashakarasawa5794 thats the daily life of an empathy, no one gets them. it takes emotional intelligence to empathize with everyone and understand their motives.

I fell for this man so hard and when he didnt believe Alex I was so disappointed and heartbroken. I couldn't see him the way I first did anymore after that.

This breaks my heart.....

I actually didn't get the option to forgive in my playthrough - just texts confirming that he realized the situation and realized distance was best. I can respect that because in the end, it was his father's actions, but that man is still Ryan's father. To associate would bring a great deal of risk. Where I kinda disagree with my playthrough was my choice to stay in the town. In reality, I found myself in a situation where I was in a small village where some sided with me and others with an ex who was stalking and harassing me. It got bad enough that one of his friends got caught and also had enough substances on him to get a felony. That ended the bs, but I never felt safe in that town and I left. Forgiveness often ends up being the best option for ourselves, but there's also realization that just because you forgive someone doesn't mean they're automatically going to begin looking out for your best interests. Sometimes, forgiving and separating is the best and safest option for everyone.

The regret in his voice😭

I chose to try because I was really hurt that he didn't believe her. I realize it's his dad and it's hard to believe something like that but she was missing for hours and then shows up injured. When I said that, he gave up on running away with her from Haven and that really surprised me because it showed that he really does love her very much. I chose him as a romantic partner with Alex

out of topic but alex is so pretty

Ryan might not have known that they blew up the mine to hide the other mine, but I am pretty sure he always knew the truth about what happened with his father

this hurt my heart

it was hard for him, it was his dad, ofc he didnt believe it, his dad was with him all the time, together, i can understand, so i forgive him

omg I really hate this guy since the beginning of the game, I had identified him well with his angelic face that behind hid a beautiful hypocrite, what satisfaction to see him fallen well after this expected betrayal, fortunately Steph is able to think normally Unlike everyone else

I read some comments here that even if Alex has a romance with Ryan, he still is able to not believe her. I was certain that when they have a romance, Ryan always believes Alex, but I found it it’s not true. Why? I mean, what choice is the most important here to make Ryan believe Alex when they are a thing or make Ryan doubt in Alex’s words?

@Irritategaming

24 күн бұрын

Thats right, Ryan romance is not tied to him believing you. Its actually tied to the amount of town members who believe/like Alex based on choices you did towards them.

guys jeff was ryan's dad..... it makes sense that he wouldn't want to believe it

How tf could anyone not forgive him???????? Y’all act so high and mighty when you wouldnt believe her either if you were in his position

@its_ya_boi-hy5xs

2 жыл бұрын

I guess maybe people feel betrayed, if you were to enter a relationship, you would like to know that the person you love would have your back when it matters most, and when they don't, well it's kinda hard to just let that shit go, but that's just me

@nam9085

2 жыл бұрын

​@@its_ya_boi-hy5xs if anything him believing his dad shows that he'll have the back's of the people he loves, it was just unfortunate that alex was going up against his OWN DAD! I still dont see how anyone wouldnt forgive him

@its_ya_boi-hy5xs

2 жыл бұрын

@@nam9085 like I get that it's his dad and that's incredibly hard, but at that moment when Alex looked at Ryan and asked him if he believed her, that was a test for their love, and Ryan failed

@nam9085

2 жыл бұрын

@@its_ya_boi-hy5xs no ryan did not fail??? wtf. Love shouldnt be abandoning the people you love most. its completely selfish for alex to ask him to believe her over HIS OWN DAD.

@its_ya_boi-hy5xs

2 жыл бұрын

@@nam9085 except it wasn't because jed tried to kill her?, Alex is there cut and bruised all over and ryan still chose family over love, Alex revealed everything about her powers to ryan first (not counting gabe), she trusted him to keep her secret, and he couldn't even give her the benefit of a doubt when it mattered

Nah nah nah nah. This is the most foul thing in the game. I was pissed at first but then the more I thought about it the more I realized he was just niaeve. But his logic was GARBO. I’m sorry Ryan?? What the fuck do you think happened I got bored one day and just threw myself down the the mine in hopes I survive to tell a lie just for the funsies?? Make it make sense please cause Ryan’s logic was awful. But I understood.

@Athmel

2 жыл бұрын

He said Alex chose his father out of desperation to stick it to Typhon. Not that she faked or staged injuring herself. Diane covered that aspect easily by suggesting Alex was fucking around in the mines.

@10plate

2 жыл бұрын

@@Athmel i mean, if my friend came in the room with a bullet wound and appeared to be heavily injured while claiming that my dad shot her, i’d believe her right away. like, did ryan just believe that she blamed it on his dad for no reason? he thinks that alex doesn’t know the person who literally shot her? or did he think that alex just shot herself? either way, none of these options are realistic. it made my blood boil when he didn’t believe her despite everything.

@Athmel

2 жыл бұрын

@@10plate This isn't Ryan choosing to be irrational or illogical. The only for sure thing is that something happened with Alex. When Ryan does believe her, it's through the support of everyone else, and even then, it's still entirely on faith. Alex even brings up that she's knows it's going to be difficult for them choose to believe her over Jed.

Nah cause I choose Ryan first but I like Steph better ngl my opinion I think Ryan is a really good character I just like Steph more

Wait that’s weird. Shouldn’t Steph be there ripping up her ticket to stay or leave with Alex?

@nadeshiko7

4 ай бұрын

Thats if you romance her

@epictensai

4 ай бұрын

This is probably from Ryan romance path

@Ricardo0954

4 ай бұрын

@@epictensai i’ve never seen that before. I’ve always picked Steph.😂😂😂

@epictensai

4 ай бұрын

@@Ricardo0954 so real, this my first time seeing this part too 😹

@Ricardo0954

4 ай бұрын

@@epictensai even when the first trailer came out for the game. I knew Ryan was gonna be friendzoned so hard when Steph was also in the game 😂😂😂

Wait...wut? How did yall get this choice? He believed me at the meeting and showed up at my door ready to ride off into the sunset! What yall been up to?

I went with the "I'll try" option with the intention of "i forgive you but stay away from me forever" and it automatically selected me to leave haven with him. Terrible ending. I was sitting there shit talking him and the stupidity of "I'll try" Alex as they went off into their happy ending. The reason I forgive but wanted to leave with steph instead is because Alex LITERALLY was covered in blood, broken body, and yet somehow he didn't believe her??? Talk about a maximum case of victim blaming. Red flags, red flags everywhere.

I'm quite shocked that some people hate Ryan for not believing Alex, i mean.. Obviously he wouldn't AT FIRST because guess what maybe bc JED IS HIS DAD? oh wow surprise! Would you believe a stranger or your dad? It's hard and emotional at first but when logic kicks in he surly realized that Alex have empathy powers, man idk if I'd be able to apologize if I was in his shoes because I will not have the balls to do so. Ryan is a good man

I went back at the checkpoint and wanted to forgive him but I actually can’t look at the state Alex was in everyone turned there back on gabe to trust jed

And this why steph will always be the better love interest

Good

thanks, everyone seems to be so weak and forgive that guy easily but that time when she appeard in front of everyone speaking the truth was the only time we could realise how bad people are.... They might smile, speak and drink with you, requires your help but once you're down nobody is there to give a hand. Pike was a simple guy, didn't spend much time with Alex but he covered her back during the adversity. That's a genuine person The best choice Alex could have done in my opinion is leave the city with Steph. (i don't even know if that is an option)

@Irritategaming

2 жыл бұрын

Best ending/choice for me at the end was being with Steph and leaving town

@kendriccoley7053

2 жыл бұрын

If someone accused my father of something horrible I wouldn't believe them either and people aren't weak it's called common sense that's pretty dickish way of thinking that.

@jarvisfowlkes3200

2 жыл бұрын

@@kendriccoley7053 It's the simple fact we know it's true and Alex would never make something like that up

@jarvisfowlkes3200

2 жыл бұрын

@@Irritategaming Agreed

@b5303

2 жыл бұрын

imagine someone comes up to YOU, tells you that your parent/someone you look up to tried to murder them. would you believe them instantly??