Love Budget decks, love Joey, love Liesa. Win win.

@codymetz8689

3 жыл бұрын

I think thats a win, win, win

@mathimus55

3 жыл бұрын

This is a triple win here friend.

Yo keep this series up dawg, I LOVE watching the process of deck editing and how in depth about the changes you go. Always fun to watch and exciting to see budget being better.

Love the addition of Sunbond/Light of Promise! You know what goes great with those? Duelist's Heritage

😑 my playgroup is gonna hate me.. i was already saying "you're tearing me apart Liesa" but with the added "o, high Market" i'm not sure i'll have friends left...

@danielyarsky6128

3 жыл бұрын

First time? Try playing GAAIV

@Kazz1187

3 жыл бұрын

Oh gawd I love it

the sound that I made when you said voltron, having made a voltron style Liesa deck myself. I didn't know about Sunbond. I need to buy Sunbond.

Probably worth mentioning that Alhammaret's Archive is in the Witherbloom commander deck releasing next week, so it should be easier to find for at least a little while.

@caligo7918

3 жыл бұрын

yay! i preordered the decks before any cards were spoiled and had not seen that the Archive is part of it.

I love the image of your whole family playing magic together. Adorable!

Good timing! Yesterday I cracked some Commander Legends packs and got her foil etched and was thinking about building her a commander deck.

Woo! Liesa is one of my new favorite commanders. So glad you made this!

Great video as always. Please keep these coming!!

Why yes I was wondering how I could improve my Liesa deck.. Was waiting for this.

I love that black/white life gain has so many cool options. A lot of similiar cards in diffenrent decks yet they still are very different to play. Cards I absoluetly love with Liesa are Polluted Bonds, Ankh of Mishra, Sword of War and Peace, Rug of Smothering Isolation Cell and Painful Quandary. Also black/white is just boardwipe heaven. I always struggle to choose the few I put into my deck when there are sooo many good ones. I would love to see a decklist of your dads Karlov deck :D

I appreciate the budget version you include!

Shocked that you don’t have more subs! This content is great!

I love Innistrad's Lore and I was stunned when I saw her. It's one of my favorite cards in the game. Great additions to this video would be: Simulacrum (this card has an errata and is VERY NICE here); Wishclaw Talisman and Scheming Symmetry (politics tool and budget-friendly tutor); Pain's Reward (yes, you'll draw 4 cards 99% of the time); Wound Reflection (it works better in a Pillow Fort build, but watching your table tear themselves apart is nice too) and our beloved buddy, Gary, the merchant of Asphodel!! Thank you for the amazing video, Upping the Average not only entertain us, but we get to learn how to deckbuild better.

As usual a great episode! I'd definitely love to see what you would do to Hamza in this series

I made a Pestilence Liesa deck, based on an old favorite casual deck of mine. It has so many unique cards for Liesa according to EDH rec

Tragic that The Room reference will be lost on most of your viewers. But I personally appreciate you going for it.

I love this idea, thank you for making an effort to make such a strong commander so accessible!

This was a great way to change out a good amount of money to make the decks run smoother. Keep staying Pawzitive guys 👍

Loved this video!

Joe's scarfs are definitely upping my opinion on accessories.

great episode joey :)

I run a taxes/group slug version of the deck and it's one of my favorites! For a really nice repeatable life gain source on a land, try slotting in an inventor's fair. Using the tutor ability to grab aetherlux doesn't hurt either.

No love for Shattered Angel? It's an angel, gains you an absurd amount of life, and has a sorta taxing effect. Seems perfect for Liesa

I built Liesa with cycling and etbs in mind, running Astral Slide and Drift.

I know im very late to this video but the "oh high market" killed me

I love cleric class in my Liesa, you get that plus a soul sister, and then you can level it up to get "when you gain life, add a +1/+1" which doubles off of itself because of the separate triggers! Great budget card, I found it more useful than Rhox faithmender for sure.

Would love to see an Upping the Average for Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign

Day 1 of asking Joey to make a Ruric Thar Upping the Average episode.

Omg, I about died when you said "you're tearing me apart Liesa"!!

I am so surprised by some of those prices! For me Resplendent angle was a bulk mythic, and phyrexian arena only worth $5. So many prices have changed recently (even in Europe, even though it increased less)

I would love to see an episode on zaxara.

"Oh! and that is only half of it, there's another way they treat me cruely, how often I remember someone saying "There she goes Liesa shroud of desk, or dawn or draws or dumb or dark, so is it a wonder I very often cry! It's D U Single S then single K, that's the way you say Dusk!, Liesa Shroud of Dusk."

@none-vr6vr

Жыл бұрын

this is absolutely hilarious

Heliod ballista is in my liesa deck as a win con. Sometimes you just need a way to win now

Just in time for my lunch break!

It would be nice to see an Upping the Average of Brago, King Eternal, if not already happened + I like the content :)

This makes me reexamine my Lurrus the Dream Den deck, which uses Liesa, Kambal, Crypt Ghast, and just about every other Extort card.

I particularly like the new Veinwitch Coven and Stinging Study for this deck! Stinging Study especially is just a better Phyrexian Arena that I think will cost less, so there's no downside to adding it! I've also got a video about Liesa, but mine focuses a lot more on the high budget "life and taxes" style of build, if anyone's interested :)

Glad I picked up Hatred back when it was $20

@LovedandTheLover

3 жыл бұрын

Wait what? That card is worth something?

@AlexOvTheAbyss

3 жыл бұрын

@@LovedandTheLover Current average on MTG Stocks for Hatred is about $140

@LovedandTheLover

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexOvTheAbyss well damn, I got to find my copy. I know I have one somewhere but I thought it wasn't worth anything and forgot where I put it

A whole family nerding out over magic is hard to believe

Celestial mantle seems a good inclusion: 3 colourless 3 white Entchanted creature gets +3/+3 Whenever enchanted creature deals combat damage to a player, double it's controller's life total

As a long time gain and drain player, I can confirm that sunscorth regent and angelic accord are good. Also, if you really want life gain voltron, uncle Karlov can be a beast.

Recently I tried using Liesa as commander instead of Karlov for my orzhov life gain deck and the results were impressive.

@tiborrosenthal8307

2 жыл бұрын

I am thinking on doing the same thing. How good is it?

I was playing Liesa recently, I got a KO on someone with a top deck Sign in Blood lol Opal Palace for Liesa let her swing for 9 (it was a 3-person game) plus the Sign in Blood was exact lethal at 11

"Oh hi, Market" got me, you little rapscallion.. well played 🤦

I'd love to see an upping the average for The Locust God

Do you happen to know, is there a way to use phrexian gremlins to manipulate winter orb to my advantage?

love The Room references

Wait a second, is that a Liza Minnelli reference in the wild??

Think you could try upping the Lyra Dawnbringer average?

Even when people know the damn card's in your deck, nobody is ever emotionally prepared for the moment Hatred drops on them.

11:26 i dont think the average of 1 and 10 is 5... sry for nitpicking :)

10:24 feel like Joey missed the opportunity to say thank you, next 😅

I'm building a Liesa life swap deck. It's really tricky to balance I think. We'll see how it turns out after I can play again.

@adamapple8638

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds really interesting!

@Stevie28

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamapple8638 the goal is to intentionally drop really low with cards like Bolas's Citadel or Ad Nauseam and then use something close to Axis of Mortality or Reverse the Sands to switch the lifetotals with mine. After that it should be easy to finish someone of with just 1HP with Liesa triggers combat damage or extort.

@dorsalfin22

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! I have a Selenia, the Dark Angel deck with this exact strategy :P it's so fun

@adamapple8638

3 жыл бұрын

@@Stevie28 I have a liesa deck and I was thinking of making that exact style of play. Let me know how it works out!

If you like tainted sigil try running children of kolis in liesa. Pay one white for a 1/1 body the dosen't require to be tapped but only sac it to gain life equal to the life you've lost this turn. I use it on combination with vilis broker of blood and any pay life to activate effect cards Ex: deepwood ghoul, to draw as much cards as you can spare and crack to reset. I run thought vesel and reliquary to hold in hand all the answers and plays for the rest of game.

Got the reference loloool

How do you feel about Necropotence in this deck?

Love this series, love Liesa, thank you very much. But I just can't skip over the fact, that average of 1 and 10 is 5.5, not 5...

Auriok Champion's price is due to the current modern metagame, so that is why it is 60 dollars (AKA don't buy it for a while). Also, alhammarret's archive is being reprinted in the new commander decks, so it should be a bit cheaper for a while.

Knowledge Pool seems to me like such a good card if you're going all-in on punishment. Most punishment cards are tax effects, making it cost extra mana or life to cast spells. Knowledge Pool takes that and doubles up the punishment cost while also not giving people what they want guaranteed. While it also leaves our strategy with a barrier to work through, it's definitely not something to sleep on especially since most of your tax effects are one sided.

"oh, hi Mark-et"

im building a Liesa deck atm. Tribal angels i will be making

What the heck, I totally thought that Tainted Sigil only cared about your own life loss!

Id add selfless geist. Saves all your soul sisters from a board wipe. Witg all the low cmc stuff that gets super appealing. Keeper of the accord fishes out soul sisters/serra ascendant. Great tutor and filters out the deck. Couldnt have asked for a more fun commander. The variability of winning with voltron/burn/token beatdown is too much to ever grt too bored.

Just in time. I started working on Liesa death and taxes. Any info for her is welcome!

Do Obeka 🙏🏼😁🖤

15:36 *chefs kiss

I guess im that guy since i want a Liesa Stax deck

Do K'rrik!

Maybe its time to rebuild my Vito deck ....

Snl skirt reference? Lll

Sun Droplets

MAKE OBEKA UPPING AVERAGE

I think that if you want to go tribal with liesa you could do a mix of clerics and angels as they both have lifegain themes

Li instead of Lee its simple as can be see Liza!!!!

maybe add timestamps of the parts? thanks

I did not hit her. I did not!

@curtishoward4489

3 жыл бұрын

Oh hi, Mark.

where are the decklists tho?

@EDHRECast

3 жыл бұрын

Both decklists are in the video description box

Joey, you have a 70 USD Command Tower! Put the 0.25 USD instead!

Wait ghostly prison doesn’t make tons of sense in the list, does it? There is enough creature to hold, enough lifegain to sustain losses, and no enchantement payoff in the deck.

When Joey pointed out that 1 and 10 will average to 5, anybody else scratch their head and think “Well that’s not true.”

Cutting Starnheim Aspirant feels like cutting Jeweled Lotus. Aspirant almost guarantees you play Liesa the turn after and any turn after she is out. Liesa rarely gets a full 2 rotations at the table, so I have easily have to cast her for at least 6 additional life each game I've played with Liesa. Aspirant let's you cast your spells and then cast Liesa, a flying lifelinking 5/5, for just 3 mana each turn. And even if Aspirant only helps me cast 1 other angel, that's just gravy! In my estimation, you're underrating it

@selkokieli843

3 жыл бұрын

every turn you cast Liesa, it helps you for 2 mana. every turn you don't, it does nothing and also dies to the first inevitable boardwipe. A mana rock doesn't have these downsides. Worn Powerstone is same mana value, gives you two mana for any spell and survives a wrath of god.

I don't want to sound offensive, but those inclusions are so bad, that even budget limit can not be an excuse. Like, really? Tap land that gives you life? That and a ton of other questionable cards... Liesa by her own is a weak card, only really strong deck can make her somewhat playable. All of those who I know will just rip me to shreads, and they are casuals! Anyway, thank you for your content