LG C4 VS Samsung S90D | WRGB VS QD OLED | This Wasn't Expected

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  • @ClassyTechCalibrations
    @ClassyTechCalibrations3 ай бұрын

    Samsung could change/fix some of the issues with firmware, so it may change in the future. That also brings risk of something else getting changed or broken with a firmware update though.

  • @iphilologos

    @iphilologos

    3 ай бұрын

    Especially since what we have learned over the last years is that Samsung TVs are typically at their best performance in early firmware. Not sure if it’s possible to revert if one decides to take an update and regrets it.

  • @TheCrucialQ

    @TheCrucialQ

    3 ай бұрын

    Both were playing content(film) in HDR10?

  • @michaelfoster3441

    @michaelfoster3441

    3 ай бұрын

    That's why I love Panasonic I have the LZ2000 for 2 years with 3 updates .

  • @mankat6562

    @mankat6562

    3 ай бұрын

    you should know that samsung brings down their tvs with future updates, not the other way around. You think that Lg is fool to not turn up the brightness without taking their safety measurements like samsung did .But now see what you get

  • @ChromeJob

    @ChromeJob

    3 ай бұрын

    The Samsung Firmware Update Clownshow is notorious. I had a Sammy BD player literally brick itself one Saturday morning performing a firmware update without any provocation. God bless the Costco electronics clerk who accepted it for a return/refund.

  • @michaelfoster3441
    @michaelfoster34413 ай бұрын

    Dam didn't see this coming The C4 beating down a A QD oled , great job classy for nit being bias towards any tv manufacturer .

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    This is without MLA

  • @zachrhonheimer2787
    @zachrhonheimer27873 ай бұрын

    I didn't realize that the professional tone mapping option was on the C4 as well as the G4. Makes me wonder if this feature might come to the C3/G3 next year when they get WebOS 2024. Has LG ever back-ported features like this? I know they say the older models will get Chromecast support so I wonder if this could come as well.

  • @carywatson1146
    @carywatson11463 ай бұрын

    Well done Classy! Exactly what I needed right now in looking to buy my first OLED!

  • @user-vq9gd2di9x
    @user-vq9gd2di9x3 ай бұрын

    you're killing it with these reviews classy

  • @HiKielLiHi
    @HiKielLiHi3 ай бұрын

    how's the uniformity on the LG C4...and how do you know if the S90D is a QD-OLED panel?

  • @DhasseLOL
    @DhasseLOL2 ай бұрын

    Would the improvments to C4 also apply to the 42 inch, or are they linked to the increased brightness that only applies to the larger sizes? Looking to get a c3 or c4 as a monitor but it's really hard to find info about the differences at 42 inch size.

  • @AllAboutTKK
    @AllAboutTKK3 ай бұрын

    Great video. Couldn’t justify the S90D this year, been enjoying my C4.

  • @jnvivian
    @jnvivian3 ай бұрын

    I am starting to wonder if the S90D was nerfed in order to try to convince buyers to instead choose the S95D over the S90D. A battle between the S90C and S90D could sort this hypothesis out, and make the S90C and/or S89C even better value kings if your S90D is worse than the S90C and S89C.

  • @polishdude001

    @polishdude001

    3 ай бұрын

    Now you’re thinking ;)

  • @exhibitD79

    @exhibitD79

    Ай бұрын

    Depends on what size and what country. That is to say, some are WOLED and some are QD OLED.

  • @DawgFan18
    @DawgFan183 ай бұрын

    Hey great vid classy! Is the C4 better than the G2 I have the G2 and was debating on upgrading. Thank you for your input.

  • @hansklaus8657

    @hansklaus8657

    3 ай бұрын

    Rather go for the g3 or wait for a price drop on the g4 rather :D

  • @bloomerb4162
    @bloomerb41623 ай бұрын

    I know on my cx, that out of game mode, with allm on, too much latency compared to game mode. So your saying that you can get the color saturation back and have the same level of latency as game mode on the c4? There must be a difference in lag out of game mode.

  • @ghnbtrcv8672
    @ghnbtrcv86722 ай бұрын

    My man got the Samsung WOLED version 😂😂

  • @davidrubec2759
    @davidrubec27593 ай бұрын

    KG just put out a long comparison of the s90d vs g4. He mentioned a couple times how the non gaming color brightness of the s90d was superior but the g4 whites were better while going through the modes. Does this mean right now the c4 has better colour volume then the g4 or are your specific calibration at play? I don't remember him finding a mode where the g4 was particularly better that way while you found the opposite result with the c4 vs s90d.

  • @Embre_2
    @Embre_23 ай бұрын

    The QD-Oleds always have a pink tint on camera, it doesnt show in real life except for blacks when there is direct light pointing at the TV. Not sure why its so visible on camera.

  • @francis147741
    @francis1477413 ай бұрын

    Awesome work. Quick question...Does the wall mount of the G2 fit the G4

  • @lewisevander
    @lewisevander3 ай бұрын

    Is the c4 still more colorful when both are in standard and vivid mode? Samsung probably purposely kept the colors muted on the accurate modes to make the tv look more accurate. Also using the color booster setting may increase the saturation on the samsung.

  • @westibbs
    @westibbs3 ай бұрын

    There are some reports out there claiming the C4 10% window goes over 1000 nits. Curious where it clips on the ps5/XSX system level calibration. Still 14 clicks / 800 nits on ps5?

  • @onlineservices2050
    @onlineservices20503 ай бұрын

    Great comparison video. Surprised by c4. Classy, as a monitor 42 inch size comparing c2 to c3, is the c2 just as good as c3 for use as a PC monitor? Thanks

  • @JosephKarthic

    @JosephKarthic

    Ай бұрын

    C2 42 is perfect, i have fixed that absl auto dimming thing from a reddit tutorial and it's perfect, i also have x82l 75 and x90l 75 and nothing comes close to oled....

  • @westibbs
    @westibbs3 ай бұрын

    On the LG, you can enable HGIG through the Windows Color Control app remotely as a setting for one of the non-GO modes. So you can use FMM+ HGIG for extra brightness and color, while retaining the true accuracy of HGIG. You just set it once and never need to use your PC again unless you turn HGIG off. This is the way.

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    Color Control connection to the TV will implement a flag in the service menu that can cause LG to deny warranty service. With the adjustable tone mapping options you no longer need to do that anyway. Just set 4000 mastering to 100 and set the game to 1000 nits and it will mimic HGiG.

  • @westibbs

    @westibbs

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ClassyTechCalibrations got it, but as you point out, your method isn’t as 100% accurate, but I suppose it’s a good compromise to avoid potential warranty issues.

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    @@westibbs it'll clip if the game supports console HGiG setting or has a working slider. If it's outputting higher than 1000 nits then it will still have some tone mapping, which is imo better anyway.

  • @user-lm7wq9xm1p

    @user-lm7wq9xm1p

    3 ай бұрын

    As long as the eotf will be tracked up to 1000 nits, the roll off with higher luminance values is irrelevant in this case of hgig

  • @tbecket4890

    @tbecket4890

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ClassyTechCalibrationsspeaking of warranty, does the C4 also include a 5 year warranty or is it only on the G4?

  • @Jordanfiend361
    @Jordanfiend3613 ай бұрын

    @ClassyTechCalibrations quick question, do you still have to break in a QDoled a certain amount of hours Before Calibrating??

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    Some yeah. Comp cycles are the best to get done over straight hours.

  • @Jordanfiend361

    @Jordanfiend361

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ClassyTechCalibrations Ty brotha. I appreciate it.

  • @smokingbarrels7019
    @smokingbarrels70193 ай бұрын

    Game mode in sdr? Super dim like the c3 or worthwhile improvement ?

  • @ex2j52
    @ex2j523 ай бұрын

    Why the color luminance drops so hard on gamemode on c4? On your first few mins, I love the c4 image but while gaming, i am getting sad. I want to replace my cx48 for c4 42 this year but I mostly play pc games on it…

  • @MarcosAntonio-rt5vz

    @MarcosAntonio-rt5vz

    2 ай бұрын

    Burn in protection maybe?

  • @joelman1989

    @joelman1989

    17 күн бұрын

    If gaming is your primary concern I’d gamble on Samsung if I were you. Their TVs don’t see the dramatic brightness reduction that the LGs do.

  • @dan3mx
    @dan3mx3 ай бұрын

    I'd like to see a side by side of C3 vs C4. Hard to believe there is that much difference.

  • @polishdude001

    @polishdude001

    3 ай бұрын

    They had to compete with the s90, they had no choice but to step up, shame we don’t get the newer chip in there though

  • @trevhib

    @trevhib

    3 ай бұрын

    In AV Forum's review (edit: apologies, I mean the WhatHiFi review), of the C4 they found the same thing, that it is significantly better than the C3. A nice surprise after recent C series stagnation.

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad i returned my c3!! C-series is back baby!

  • @polishdude001

    @polishdude001

    3 ай бұрын

    @@beammeupscottsp7952 giving c9 vibes lol

  • @stevenhocking6407

    @stevenhocking6407

    3 ай бұрын

    The speakers are significantly better on c4 compared to c3. Lg finally is improving their speakers on their tv's

  • @hamptonparadise3146
    @hamptonparadise31462 ай бұрын

    42" Sony A90k and 42" LG C4 are now the same price (LG is $100 more). I can imagine the C4 edges it out in brightness, as did the C3, but what about sharpness and detail? Is the processing in the A90k still better since the C4 didn't get the a11 chip? I'm still debating between them even though the A90k is 2 years old.

  • @bowlman2345
    @bowlman23453 ай бұрын

    @ClassyTechCalibrations for the most part, could I follow your G3 settings video for the G4? I recognize it might be a bit before you get time to do a settings video

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    Mostly should be similar.

  • @bowlman2345

    @bowlman2345

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks Classy. Just looking for a benchmark start since I just hung my G4. Look forward to watching your G4 content, setup and settings vids!

  • @IamBluesandBluesamI
    @IamBluesandBluesamI2 ай бұрын

    @classytechcalibrations would you guess that most of the comparisons and conclusions here regarding S90D vs C4 applicable when comparing the S90C 2023 77" QD OLED to the C4? Is the C4 a big upgrade over S90C?

  • @deebrown5744
    @deebrown57443 ай бұрын

    YO Classy TECH... IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU CAN SWITCH OUT THE GPU AND MOTHERBOARD FROM LG G3 TO LG G4 ...

  • @polishdude001
    @polishdude0013 ай бұрын

    Classy I must say I love your videos, you’re everything Vincent should be, also LG seems to come for everyone’s neck this year.. Damnnn the difference is night and day here, I’ll be coming from a 65 A8H, will the processing and 3D look be much better on the C4 ? Also going 77 for immersion.

  • @kyle1981
    @kyle19813 ай бұрын

    Wow the c4 is looking really good this year, great video well done.

  • @vinayshsureshram277
    @vinayshsureshram2779 күн бұрын

    So the samsung S90C and the S90D - 77" are both on sale here in Australia. S90C is a guaranteed QD-OLED whereas the S90D has the whole panel lottery with high chances of it being WOLED. Which one should I get?

  • @mati_wod
    @mati_wod3 ай бұрын

    Definitely surprised by these results, but I think something is up with Samsung's color this year. I saw the S95D and S90C side by side at Best Buy yesterday and the S90C colors looked more saturated and popped more. Thought that was interesting.

  • @lewisevander

    @lewisevander

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah that's because the matte screen reduces contrast and color.

  • @ahmet_10

    @ahmet_10

    3 ай бұрын

    No it isnt​@@lewisevander

  • @ahmaddoshan845
    @ahmaddoshan8453 ай бұрын

    I want a triple display simracing setup and torn between C4 42 inch or the new 32 inch QDOled 240hz displays. Worried the brigtness/reflections of the new QDoleds bouncing of each other will grey out the black. Are my worries justified?

  • @flyingpj

    @flyingpj

    3 ай бұрын

    42" size would be amazing for immersion in a racing sim

  • @arij.hoffman9446
    @arij.hoffman94463 ай бұрын

    Good morning Classy!

  • @Whitewolf_1186
    @Whitewolf_11863 ай бұрын

    LG finally upped their game with the C series, eh? They weren't available in Canada when I was looking to buy, so I went with the S90D thanks to the crazy good deal I got on it. I do remember you mentioning that your S90D was crushing black a bit in the early stages of you having it, and it looks like I'm having the same issue. I did a pixel refresh after about a week of using it, and haven't noticed too much of a difference. It's not by any means terrible, but it's noticeable, and I don't want to crank up shadow detail to much if I can avoid it. Any recommendations on how to possibly remedy this issue?

  • @mrwalker6026
    @mrwalker60263 ай бұрын

    Does the S90D use AI upscaling..would've that be better than LG C4's processing?

  • @eugenecia9424
    @eugenecia94243 ай бұрын

    How does the C4 compare to the G2.

  • @scottish-atechreviews
    @scottish-atechreviews3 ай бұрын

    Wow that’s incredible the C4 looks well more impressive the game mode sure is lacking but if can use filmmaker mode on games for same brightness and colour that’s perfect 👌 so instead me setting 800nits for HGIG HDR game mode, I use 1000nit on HDR outside game mode not 4000nit or until all blocks have same brightness? Thanks also can this be used on the C3 4:39

  • @unknownsource4359
    @unknownsource43593 ай бұрын

    Classy, I still have a 77” A80J . Would it be an upgrade to get the C4 ?

  • @bilalbiriri6596

    @bilalbiriri6596

    3 ай бұрын

    I had a 65 A80J and recently returned my C3. It was definitely brighter but the A80J had better screen uniformity (no colour tinting) upscaling motion (if you like a lot of motion smoothing the lg will be better because it has less artifacts with high levels of Interpolation), preservation of detail and the menu/os was much faster.

  • @bearclaw5115

    @bearclaw5115

    3 ай бұрын

    I have the same tv. I'm still hanging on for another year or two. You can probably compare the two on Rtings but I don't think there is enough in it to justify getting a new tv atm.

  • @ericadams7834
    @ericadams78343 ай бұрын

    Classy, any caveats for the C4 in the 83in model? Liking the value for money I am seeing in the C4 vs the pricey G4 in my desired size.

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    Haven't seen it yet.

  • @optimalsettings
    @optimalsettings3 ай бұрын

    could be hgig the problem in game mode? what if you set dtm to off and rolloffpoints to 100%?

  • @ozeiasmoreira1
    @ozeiasmoreira1Ай бұрын

    Hello, I would appreciate it if you could answer, I wanted to buy the S90D 65, but Samsung has not yet launched it in this size in Brazil, and it is also not shipping to my state because of the floods that occurred, the S95D in partner stores is very expensive, I'm in doubt between LG G3 or S90C?! both with great prices

  • @bilalbiriri6596
    @bilalbiriri65963 ай бұрын

    Crazy never expected that. How do both tvs compare to the S90C because i would pick one up literally right know if it's worth it. It's discounted and my C3 is getting sent back tomorrow (can't stand the colour tinting). Would really appreciate your advice. Use case is watching content/gaming (70/30)

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    At this point I would recommend the S90C/S89C, especially for the lower prices.

  • @bilalbiriri6596

    @bilalbiriri6596

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot. Is there a possibility for the S90D to be fixed with a firmware update. And does the S90C still beat the C4 in brightness and colour luminance/saturation. Sorry for bothering just want to make a well informed purchase 😅

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    @@bilalbiriri6596 yes they could change it in firmware. I would be concerned about them breaking something else in the process but if not, then it could get better. I'll try to compare the S90C to the C4 when I'm back from vacation later this month.

  • @bilalbiriri6596

    @bilalbiriri6596

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ClassyTechCalibrations Got you. Thanks a lot for the help. 👍

  • @WiljanWiljan
    @WiljanWiljan3 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot. Hope you will soon create a video on the best settings for the Samsung S95D

  • @ComicalMusic
    @ComicalMusic3 ай бұрын

    Wow the C4 came out swinging this year

  • @Vetteman6363
    @Vetteman63633 ай бұрын

    What would you rather get 65” g3 or the c4?

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    G3 still better than C4

  • @AndrewB23
    @AndrewB2313 күн бұрын

    So are these 48 tvs BOTH with woled because I've seen the s90d in person compared to the c4 and it definitely doesn't look like this

  • @undone14
    @undone143 ай бұрын

    Classy! Hope all is well. I'm torn. I have a 42C2 i use for work and gaming. I was thinking of upgrading to a 32" QD OLED monitor (one of the 2024 models). Then I started thinking of perhaps using a 55" Samsung QD OLED. Then I was thinking maybe that is too big. With this video, im thinking of swapping the 42C2 to a 42C4. Or even to the 48C4. What i like about the C series - 4 x hdmi 2.1 ports, glossy screen, dolby vision, apps built in. The QD Oled monitor has a bit higher peak brightness, better color luminance, higher refresh rate, a bit more comfortable screen size. The QD OLED tv would be the brightest, high color luminance, but I'd be about 3 feet away (if gaming, i could probably scoot back but while working, id be about 3-4 feet from the screen). Hmm. Or just stay with the 42C2? Help!

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    I had similar considerations, and 42C4 is the best overall option. The monitors are not actually brighter either, they only measure 1k nits in tiny window sizes and the APL luminance is lower

  • @RenatoKazuo8w
    @RenatoKazuo8w3 ай бұрын

    Excellent comparison, it seems that because the S90D uses both WOLED and QD-OLED panels, they nerfed this year's QD-OLED outside of game mode, not surprising, because Samsung already does this with Galaxy smartphones that use both Exynos and Snapdragon. For example, you won't get Wi-Fi 7 on the S24+ Snapdragon variant, because the Exynos variant doesn't have a Wi-Fi 7 compatible modem.

  • @kingyogesh441

    @kingyogesh441

    3 ай бұрын

    Stop making excuses fanboy LG just has the best oleds period.

  • @jenifersue585

    @jenifersue585

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@kingyogesh441The S90D is literally a more capable tv, just with bad processing.

  • @johnb4905

    @johnb4905

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jenifersue585There’s a minuscule amount of content that can take advantage of the higher color volume of QD OLED. There’s a reason Panasonic and Philips went with MLA and I wouldn’t be shocked if Sony switched to MLA next year.

  • @joelman1989

    @joelman1989

    17 күн бұрын

    Definitely has nothing to do with WOLED panels. The issue is they are still gen 2 panels. Which are the same panels used in last years S90C. Now, that doesn’t mean they can’t get brighter. But they’d have to improve cooling and processing. So, it’s a bit brighter and has a bit more volume as a result of improvements. But it’s still going to be limited by the gen 2 panel. They don’t produce these panels by the way. It’s not really up to them. Samsung display is actually a separate company entirely. It’s where Samsung and Sony buy QDOLES displays. Just like every WOLED display is produced by LG display. So Samsung can’t just make new panels. They are buying them from Samsung display. And yes they are both subsidiaries of the same parent company. But they’re still very separate companies.

  • @gangs0846
    @gangs08462 ай бұрын

    Dynamic Tone Mapping On = C4 is brighter than S90D in HDR?

  • @eslamarida
    @eslamarida2 ай бұрын

    I have a LG CX for 4 years now and wanted to upgrade. I can't decide which to upgrade, the 95c or the S90d. I don't want to go with LG this time because of the banding in colours and woled screen is not as colourful as qd oled. Which one would you recommend?

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    2 ай бұрын

    S90C is my main recommendation.

  • @eslamarida

    @eslamarida

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ClassyTechCalibrationsnice thanks for replying

  • @kardeon4503
    @kardeon45033 ай бұрын

    It is good that you talk about FMM for gaming. I have been playing on my G3 with FMM+Allm+HGIG(using colorcontrol)+4:4:4 since day 1. Latency using FMM has never been a problem at all. Many youtubers talked about that without any proof. It was a big lie. Moreover LG FTDA is a game changer for HDR gaming. Most people do not realize how important it is to fix black level floor. Conclusion:despite all the BS said last year, the G3 is absolutly amazing for PC GAMING. However for console players, HGIG cannot be used with FMM. I am so glad I did not buy a samsung oled. Why ? For me HGIG and FTDA are 2 essential features for HDR gaming that bring a massive visual improvment. Also, being able to play with FMM is a great option for better color accuracy. In my eyes, the only weak point for my G3 is that color banding can be seen sometimes in few specific scenario. So that needs to be improved.

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    Hgig can be used for consoles in fmm, what are you talking about. I did it with the C3 and PS5.

  • @jonathanparle8429
    @jonathanparle84293 ай бұрын

    Do the Samsung OLED panels come from LG Display?

  • @ye-rochawkins5432

    @ye-rochawkins5432

    3 ай бұрын

    Depends…if it is QDO, it’s a Samsung Display panel/tech. If it’s a WRGB OLED (new this year in Samsungs line up) it’ll be a LG Display panel/tech.

  • @gangs0846
    @gangs08462 ай бұрын

    S90C or C4 (+$350) ? And why? Can you confirm that the Samsung has better motion processing with less artifacts? If you put trumotion to 10 does it still create alot artifacts? Thank you man

  • @calibrador
    @calibrador3 ай бұрын

    It could be that because the S90D sells both WRGB and RGB panels, Samsung was applying a common tone mapping mode for both types of panels, and that this tone mapping was more oriented to the characteristics of the lower WRGB and that is why in a panel RGB with higher brightness and color volume specifications, is the applied tone mapping excessively aggressive?

  • @bearclaw5115

    @bearclaw5115

    3 ай бұрын

    Could be. Seems like they screwed up this tv this year.

  • @rovosunny1687
    @rovosunny16873 ай бұрын

    Need help I’m using a lg c3 tv with my pc and every time I set the refresh rate to 120hz instead of 60hz I get vertical grey lines noticeable in dark areas of a game I have tried replacing the cable and it doesn’t go away not sure what to do?

  • @optimalsettings

    @optimalsettings

    3 ай бұрын

    try a different source

  • @optimalsettings

    @optimalsettings

    3 ай бұрын

    or reset the tv to factory settings

  • @gangs0846
    @gangs08462 ай бұрын

    Never saw the C4 brighter than the S90D anywhere besides here. How come?

  • @AndrewB23

    @AndrewB23

    13 күн бұрын

    That's actually a good question, when this first launched everyone said to buy the s90c because they're the same tv basically and now it's somehow worse than the c4 that is supposed to be on paper 200+ nits dimmer

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3xАй бұрын

    So which one should I buy

  • @DETERMINEDMINDZ
    @DETERMINEDMINDZ3 ай бұрын

    You said the grey scale was good classy do that mean banding ? I watched dune 2 on my lg c3 and on my s90c and some very dim desert scenes I could see those annoying bars on the screen as it panned across the desert on my lg but not the qd oled but I prefer the lg for motion … if they significantly improved this I would switch back

  • @JSWolf
    @JSWolfАй бұрын

    Can you please do a review of the C4 vs the S90D at 48" where they use the same panel? Thanks.

  • @chrisbytwerk3712
    @chrisbytwerk37123 ай бұрын

    Thus far. How bright does the c4 get? And did you have a 77 inch?

  • @beammeupscottsp7952
    @beammeupscottsp79523 ай бұрын

    C-series is back babyyyy!

  • @josuexq

    @josuexq

    3 ай бұрын

    Yea babyyyy

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    @@josuexq lmao

  • @MrDulaboo
    @MrDulaboo3 ай бұрын

    Why does both tv's keep showing Samsung at the top right?

  • @dougdabbs8155
    @dougdabbs815516 күн бұрын

    @ClassyTechCalobrations Oh No! Something just happened to my S90C and I had to exchange for S90D, which means I had a pay a little bit more money. Did I make a bad choice? Is the S90D inferior to the S90C??? I feel sick. If you could, please let me know your thoughts so I can cancel the order if need to be.

  • @pablozapata9694
    @pablozapata96943 ай бұрын

    im ready

  • @othman0077
    @othman00773 ай бұрын

    accuracy is crucial people pay for calibration in my opinion easy win for LG you captured both TVs flawlessly nice job Classy!

  • @Boltvil714
    @Boltvil7143 ай бұрын

    What about for Sports? upscaling? Best for Football?

  • @1Aquadon
    @1Aquadon3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Classy .. you're tough but fair.. excellent excellent content!!

  • @joywonderful5804
    @joywonderful58043 ай бұрын

    Why not use cinema mode like hdr in c4 sdr games??

  • @trevhib

    @trevhib

    3 ай бұрын

    presumably due to the extra m/s of input lag, but what none of the reviewers are telling us, last year or this year (that I have seen anyway), is what the actual m/s difference in lag is between game mode and other full colour luminance modes. Will it even make any difference to the average gamer?

  • @sydneyatutahi3927
    @sydneyatutahi39273 ай бұрын

    Thanks Classy🎉

  • @Isles8
    @Isles83 ай бұрын

    I have the LG C3 great tv but is the c4 worth an extra 1,000$?

  • @HiKielLiHi

    @HiKielLiHi

    3 ай бұрын

    how's the uniformity on the C3...is the panel clean?

  • @PatrickA1
    @PatrickA12 ай бұрын

    Are you 100 percent sure this s90d has the QDOLED panel?

  • @alcidescollins9126

    @alcidescollins9126

    11 күн бұрын

    very unlikely. he didn't state the sizes. that would have cleared it up but im pretty sure it's a woled panel and not the qd oled

  • @shaunwilliams3387
    @shaunwilliams33872 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you show proof of settings before?

  • @DETERMINEDMINDZ
    @DETERMINEDMINDZ3 ай бұрын

    I wasn’t even considering the c4 hmmmmmm… wonder if the 83 will be at same level

  • @beammeupscottsp7952
    @beammeupscottsp79523 ай бұрын

    Oh damn!! G4/C4 Black Friday plus ps5 pro this year 😎

  • @FeherViktor-zl8bm

    @FeherViktor-zl8bm

    3 ай бұрын

    Beast combo,i am using 4080 with c3 48 gonna upgrade for c4 42 😎

  • @Kivancli79

    @Kivancli79

    3 ай бұрын

    Still 7 long months away ... I dont know if i cant wait that long ... need ... to be ... strong.

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Kivancli79 sameeee. I was set on G4 thinking the C4 wouldn’t be an upgrade but classy is saying it’s the biggest upgrade since the C7 damn 😅

  • @aideyl9626

    @aideyl9626

    3 ай бұрын

    Same C4/PS5P all the way

  • @Kivancli79

    @Kivancli79

    3 ай бұрын

    @@aideyl9626 Usually prices come down a bit after 3 months for the "C" models ... by BF it should be around $400/500 off the original price. I am guessing the PS5 Pro is going to be somewhere between $550 and $600/650 tops ... dont think Sony is going to ask like $700 for the Pro, that would be ridiculous. So by BF, in November, an C4 55 inch + a PS5 Pro should be around $2000, maybe a bit less with some discounts here and there. Prices are different between the U.S. and Europe. Anyhows, we ll see!

  • @RUY2323
    @RUY23233 ай бұрын

    Classy, you’re an absolute beast🔥🔥🔥🔥 pure facts! not personal opinions!

  • @gianni9628
    @gianni96282 ай бұрын

    Is the problem with LG's gaming mode so limiting that you prefer the Sony A90K even if it's two years old? or is C4 better than Sony? too bad Sony no longer makes 42" 

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    2 ай бұрын

    I do not usually recommend the A90K. The C series is brighter and a better monitor/gaming display.

  • @Mile91903
    @Mile919033 ай бұрын

    I think i saw a KZread video that the s90d is panel variation. You may get a qd-oled made by samsung or a woled made by lg and no matter the size. I would say you have a woled s90d as the c4 shouldn't be able to be better. Maybe you can zoom in to the pixels to see the structure then you know for sure which panel you got.

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    No, all 55/65 that are released in North America are QD OLED. It was definitely verified as a QD OLED.

  • @Mile91903

    @Mile91903

    3 ай бұрын

    It's a weird situation then, the s90c looked much better compared to a c3 in the store and on the videos online

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Mile91903 yes, S90C was better than C3. The change in tone mapping could be changed in a firmware update on the S90D so we'll see what happens later on. Who knows if they will break something else if they do that though.

  • @lewisevander

    @lewisevander

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ClassyTechCalibrationsdid you check the pixel structure?

  • @Keivz
    @Keivz3 ай бұрын

    Did lg refine their filters to allow better brightness out of their rgb subpixels? I mean, how are they doing this? Spectacular.

  • @ervinstankovic2462
    @ervinstankovic24623 ай бұрын

    Did they nerf the s90d?

  • @andrethomas9071
    @andrethomas90713 ай бұрын

    This is it 😎can we have a winner🤔 I say LG life is good😉

  • @rkeith7766
    @rkeith77663 ай бұрын

    The C4 is 💣

  • @coludonegro7460
    @coludonegro74603 ай бұрын

    Is it worth buying a Samsung s90d or is it better to buy a Samsung s90c at a lower price.

  • @CarnivoryHODL
    @CarnivoryHODL3 ай бұрын

    Love to see this same review once the 42in S90D releases.

  • @umbro1893
    @umbro18933 ай бұрын

    Game mode on LG strangely dull. Need to check this

  • @flyingtoupee
    @flyingtoupeeАй бұрын

    These vs s90c 77 ?

  • @CFLDumpsters
    @CFLDumpstersАй бұрын

    Just got 77 s90d and Fak man the picture is crazy good, I haven’t calibrated anything just yet. But out the box this tv is really good. I saw s90d, a80l and g3 I kept coming back to s90d overall so I bought it. The lg clipping is bad, I’m sure you can adjust it.

  • @maumentum
    @maumentum3 ай бұрын

    Is S90C still the buy?

  • @joewozniak2231
    @joewozniak22313 ай бұрын

    Wait for these to drop or look for a good deal on S90C?

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    S90C at a good price is a safe bet and don't have to wait much.

  • @bearclaw5115

    @bearclaw5115

    3 ай бұрын

    Go S90C.

  • @Reaper_000
    @Reaper_0003 ай бұрын

    G4 or S90D for gaming only (on PC)? Looking to replace my Sony A80J 55" for either a G4 or s90d in 77" Waiting for Black Friday to buy them, question is which is worth more for the money. Guess G4 is definitely gonna be much more expensive than S90D in 77"…

  • @TheAntifluencer
    @TheAntifluencer3 ай бұрын

    welp, even the C4 STOMPS Samsung this year in terms of clarity and depth. I expected more out of the S90D here, but probably QTV was overhyping it.

  • @polishdude001

    @polishdude001

    3 ай бұрын

    Or lg just had a bigger gun

  • @icemanandbobtechandgaming

    @icemanandbobtechandgaming

    3 ай бұрын

    Most of us have expected the S90D to be better than the C4. The S90D is actually worse overall than last year’s models in terms of performance and accuracy. A few tweaks in the service menu as well as calibration and you have a better set than the S90D. I know we all talked about firmware updates gimping Samsung TV, but it’s already held back out the gate.

  • @andrewgraham8561

    @andrewgraham8561

    3 ай бұрын

    QTV is a joke

  • @verttisyrjala2897

    @verttisyrjala2897

    3 ай бұрын

    @@icemanandbobtechandgamingHow do you know this? Did you measure the color accuracy yourself?

  • @icemanandbobtechandgaming

    @icemanandbobtechandgaming

    3 ай бұрын

    @@verttisyrjala2897 Yes, I am a hobbyist calibrator and have the means to do so. The S90D does not perform better than last year’s models across the board. In a few areas of measurement yes, but not in real world content. Btw, measurement numbers are meaning less and less in terms of actual content, this is why we don’t speak or show it as much anymore. One set will measure higher and perform worse, be less bright, and etc in real world content.

  • @Bklynblaze1
    @Bklynblaze13 ай бұрын

    It’s a shame LG didn’t put the Alpha 11 chip in the C4.

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    Right, the C-series would almost be too good with MLA/new processor

  • @Mike-yc3lu

    @Mike-yc3lu

    3 ай бұрын

    It actually makes sense because the models were very similar

  • @polishdude001

    @polishdude001

    3 ай бұрын

    @@beammeupscottsp7952 your describing a g4 at that point dude lol

  • @beammeupscottsp7952

    @beammeupscottsp7952

    3 ай бұрын

    @@polishdude001 haha yeah at least put one of the two

  • @kasramoghaddam1389
    @kasramoghaddam13893 ай бұрын

    Wow, outside of game mode C4 looks significantly better to me.

  • @adoniscoolgaming1278

    @adoniscoolgaming1278

    3 ай бұрын

    Wonder if I should wait for the Sony 42 inch model

  • @Noobmaster69-gp5jt

    @Noobmaster69-gp5jt

    3 ай бұрын

    @@adoniscoolgaming1278 No

  • @tylerthere5832

    @tylerthere5832

    3 ай бұрын

    I honestly don't care for samsungs game mode as they usually have wacky color compared to their movie modes. I've actually been playing with game mode off when gaming on my s95b recently, much better colors when using bt.2020 in sdr. So if I got the lg I'd be totally fine keeping game mode off.

  • @astreakaito5625

    @astreakaito5625

    3 ай бұрын

    It's also better in game mode as it's more accurate anyway

  • @bloomerb4162

    @bloomerb4162

    3 ай бұрын

    Too much latency out of game mode. Even with allm turned on.

  • @chainvectorvideos3425
    @chainvectorvideos34253 ай бұрын

    How does the C3 compare to C4?

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    C4 is a pretty big improvement over C3

  • @khoido9240

    @khoido9240

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ClassyTechCalibrations Do you think that also apply to the smaller sizes 42 and 48 inch?

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    @@khoido9240 I'll get the 42 by the end of the month, but yes it was supposed to be improved and be brighter.

  • @nicolatulliocataldo3710

    @nicolatulliocataldo3710

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ClassyTechCalibrations please let us know your sdr and hdr settngs on your 42" tv!

  • @NoName-hy2cq
    @NoName-hy2cq3 ай бұрын

    damn the c4 is bussin. makes me regret just getting the C3 77" but i did get it for $1950 including tax and shipping.

  • @user-lm7wq9xm1p
    @user-lm7wq9xm1p3 ай бұрын

    Why comparing lg's Cinema home mode to fmm?

  • @etinosaoyemwense

    @etinosaoyemwense

    3 ай бұрын

    Son of perdition with nano cell ear, and micro brain, please start from the beginning and listen well, s90d in movie mode with active tone mapping ON and c4 bomb in cinema home with dynamic tone mapping ON(i.e. DTM ON)

  • @user-lm7wq9xm1p

    @user-lm7wq9xm1p

    3 ай бұрын

    @@etinosaoyemwense but also was the s90d in fmm static tonemapping compared to lg c4 cinema home. His tv was calibrated in cinema mode, not cinema home, what your micro brain hasn't conceived.

  • @etinosaoyemwense

    @etinosaoyemwense

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@user-lm7wq9xm1p 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅, will pardon you because I know you are in state of TIA

  • @nicholasparry2521
    @nicholasparry25213 ай бұрын

    Come on classy pull ya finger out and get the G4 review out 😂. I have the G4 in the basket waiting on your thoughts . Chromance overshoot is the improvement I'm hoping for over the G3

  • @tylerthere5832
    @tylerthere58323 ай бұрын

    I just wish the picture qaulity could be the same across game and movie modes.....

  • @kasramoghaddam1389
    @kasramoghaddam13893 ай бұрын

    Improvements to C4 brings the question: Discounted G3 vs new C4? 👀

  • @ClassyTechCalibrations

    @ClassyTechCalibrations

    3 ай бұрын

    G3 still the better of the two.

  • @micker9830
    @micker98303 ай бұрын

    Geez, the G4 should kill the QD oleds this year, if this is any indication. I thought the S90D would smoke the C4. Maybe if it's in it's brightest and not accurate mode, it will look better for most?

  • @CDSparks

    @CDSparks

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't be so sure. I think Samsung gimped the s90d to create a clear and bigger separation between it and s95d. The s90c was basically as good as the s95c. As was the s89c

  • @johnb4905

    @johnb4905

    2 ай бұрын

    @@CDSparksI actually think the S90D is better than the S95D because it doesn’t have the matte finish.

  • @randomstranger9494
    @randomstranger94943 ай бұрын

    i'm happy the color has improved on the lg, i found the c3 to look a bit washed against the s90c, but this improvement combined with that clarity i can live with 😍, and is just me or does LG just do something different with their whites, all their TV's in every category has some ridiculous whites.

  • @lewisevander

    @lewisevander

    3 ай бұрын

    That s90d definitely has a woled panel.

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