Hey everyone- to the one million people telling me the inside corners for the frame didn’t need to be square, as I said in the video, I did it that way because I wanted to try it. It was fun, and that’s the whole point of this endeavour! If you’re not having fun doing this stuff, then it’s time for another hobby. I’m removing those comments because they are boring. To the other million people saying I should have silver soldered it- As I said several times in the video, the goal is to have the seams disappear. Silver solder won’t do that. Furthermore, Loctite is plenty strong for this application and doesn’t require getting out the torch, brazing hearth, pickling acid, and buffing wheel. But hey, you do you, this is how I did it, it was fast and easy, and worked great. Tedious comments are removed, as always. Don’t be tedious.

@leerogers6423

3 жыл бұрын

I'll drink to that.

@davidewing9088

3 жыл бұрын

I like what you did. I am keen to make one - Exactly as you did it (but metric).

@ehsnils

3 жыл бұрын

We always try to make ideas work so nothing wrong with that. Personally I would have considered a variant where different punch sizes could be supported, mostly because I have two different punch sets.

@pixelkatten

3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to point out that there are brass solders available for the explicit purpose of color matching, but I understand that getting all the soldering stuff out can be a hassle.

@manyirons

3 жыл бұрын

Regarding 19:18, I'd re-pin it, because I'd be banging a hammer at random angles, sometimes with force against the joint. It might take twenty years, but I've run into Loctite failures before. But that's me. You're doing you. Keep up the great work!

This one should be of interest to ToT. He stamps like I write.

@LCOOTS

3 жыл бұрын

TOT IS THE MAN>>> HE KNOWS HOW TO RIDE TRIALS AN THAT"S A BITCH. I THINK YOU ARE MY BROTHER AS WE SPEAK TH SAME MACHINE LANGUAGE, THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT. RIDE BROTHER RIDE!!!!!!!

@EllaBananas

3 жыл бұрын

Hah true. No fucking clue what that reply above me is on about.

@sithus1966

3 жыл бұрын

This is the first thing I thought of when I saw it. "TOT needs one!"

@awesomo9262

3 жыл бұрын

@@EllaBananas His comment is on steroids or something

Clickspring wouldn't broach this. Clickspring would file the square hole to within a micron by eye using a home-made file that he made with another home-made file.

@troglokev

3 жыл бұрын

He would but the home made file is made using a cold chisel, case-hardened with an ancient technique that he found in the original Library of Alexandria on an archaeological research expedition funded by the 5th Earl of Carnarvon.

@leerogers6423

3 жыл бұрын

TOT would do it with a sharpie.

@FinboySlick

3 жыл бұрын

@@leerogers6423 To paraphrase Quinn, TOT stock removal techniques are what separate him from the humans.

@mpetersen6

3 жыл бұрын

@@leerogers6423 ToT would simply karate chop. Project done. Myself I'd use the mill as a vertical shaper to square the corners up or simply make the base plate longer so the arcs at the end of the slot don't get in the way

@Reman1975

3 жыл бұрын

Chris does seem to like taking the hardest hand tool route possible in his projects. :) In some of his early videos I remember seeing him use an indexer and home made single point fly cutter to machine gear teeth, but a few videos later he'd begun cutting and filing gear teeth by hand !?!? He's the engineering equivalent of an artisan baker who's first step in making bread is to prepare a whole field using nothing but a normal garden spade, then planting some wheat ! :D

"chanfers is what separate us from the animals" 😂 for the book..! chaMfers animal me...

@NeneExists

3 жыл бұрын

When I heard this I mentally replaced "animals" with "wood workers"

@12345NoNamesLeft

3 жыл бұрын

@@NeneExists We all did.

I was saddened that youtube didn't recommend your channel until today knowing damn well Im subscribed to AVE, this old Tony, and abom79. I love the precision work you did.

If you have an arbor press, try using your guide and punches in that. The letters will come out deeper and clearer.

@NicholasMarshall

3 жыл бұрын

This is getting dangerously close to movable type

@mpetersen6

3 жыл бұрын

The ultimate answer is an engraver of some type.

@mpetersen6

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsteifel When is was still working and even now when I have to stamp something I generally just clamp a piece of 1/2" keystock the right distance from the top of the letter stamp character and eyeball it. Really good lighting helps alot. Stamping straight characters got stamped into me during my apprenticeship many moons ago*. Everything we made that was a stock item that would go into the stores cribs had to have its fixture number attached to the drawing and its detail number. I made so many parts for one fixture I still remember the number (KF-3170717 DET xxx). A production environment can be very hard on tooling. Plus we made a lot of stuff out of 1o18 CRS simply because we had carburizing furnaces in house for heat treating rear end gears. The gears were 4140 or 4340. If somebody really wanted to go crazy you could have a "die" that the stamps fit with a sliding fit. Mount that square above one of those inexpensive "milling" tables and go to town. *My last job before I finally hung it up the kids called me "old man". I either replied the following ways 1) Somebody had to sell Noah the Wood 2) Yah, I invented dirt. But I got screwed on the patent rights 3) When he said "Let there be light" somebody had to flip the switch

@Skinflaps_Meatslapper

3 жыл бұрын

Man what are you people talking about they're called punches because you're supposed to PUNCH THEM WITH YOUR MANLY FISTS

@rallymodeller

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyennis1787 Depends on the size of the lettering and what you want to put the lettering on. A one ton press should be able to do decent lettering impressions with 1/4" letters in cold rolled steel.

In the dim distant past I worked in a engine manufacturing plant. Once the bottom end of the engine was built the block was flipped to have the head face upper most and at that point a engine number was stamped on the block. This was a manual operation using individual stamps. There was only one man who could accomplish this feat without using a guide , and he was able to do it so it looked like it was machine stamped as was done in the Japanese parent company with a giant daisy wheel equipped machine. He had a 90 second job cycle time to stamp the 11 character number, fit the 2 head location dowels, head gasket, cylinder head, 12 bolts and tighten them down to torque. As a leading hand I dreaded having to do this job whenever he went for a toilet break. Cheers Eric

In CNC guitar making, we use a 1/42" inch end mill (0.6mm) to cut fret slots. They are hideously small and fragile. Spinning screaming banshees of death turn them about 30krpm.

@jonjohnson102

3 жыл бұрын

What in tarnation is a 1/42

@markneedham8726

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonjohnson102 I guess it would be .6mm, as he said. Don't be Anal, it does not become you.

@arkansas1336

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonjohnson102... .0238, same as #73 drill (.0240)

keming is serious business!

@therealpanse

3 жыл бұрын

Kerning is the difference between Pen Island and another place.

@SenselessUsername

3 жыл бұрын

Kerning is what separates us from the other primates.

@aerobyrdable

3 жыл бұрын

Had to highlight the letter to make sure I was getting the joke XD

@RyJones

3 жыл бұрын

@@aerobyrdable modem problems require modem solutions

"Chamfers are what separate us from the animals."

@Suinsap

3 жыл бұрын

send me one 🙋🏼‍♂️

@mortenb100

3 жыл бұрын

Laughing my head of 😅😂

@elizabethburgess7671

3 жыл бұрын

Round here I've heard they sometimes have to use crowbars! Just sayin' ....

@josephnorton1996

3 жыл бұрын

I laughed out loud at this. Good, but not good when watching before work and wife is still asleep. :)

@ManicSalamander

3 жыл бұрын

Would buy.

“Chamfers are what separates us from the animals”....another one to use in my class, thanks Quinn!

You're the best Quinn! Really nice project. That fly cut stainless certainly is impressive . Now if you could design a jig to help me think straight, it would be most helpful.

This 'method' of squaring the inner corners is blasphemous. No respectable machinist would ev... (What? Mr. Pete did this?) This method is genius!

@ErikBongers

3 жыл бұрын

@@Stefan_Boerjesson I watch all of the Tubalcain videos. I'm not being sarcastic. Just having a bit of fun, but I'm not being clear enough, it seems - oh well, better next time :/

@ErikBongers

3 жыл бұрын

Relax. It was just a silly joke...

@MaximilianonMars

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the name 'Respectable Machinist' would rile some feathers, maybe that is valuable somehow, like companies that trademark fancy sounding fictional product names to squeeze money out of big companies.

@JasperJanssen

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaximilianonMars next big KZread channel, The Respectable Machinist.

@leerogers6423

3 жыл бұрын

@@ErikBongers . I got it straight off. Humour is a tricky thing particularly in a second language . Maybe just don't do it in front of the children?

I have been a machinist by trade most of my life, and I am very impressed by your knowledge.

This is absolutely brilliant. I think it needs to be over-engineered a bit, though. Maybe see if you can hook it up to your steam engine somehow.

@markmiller6817

3 жыл бұрын

That was funny .

@ChristopherTate

3 жыл бұрын

Shhhhh, you're giving away the long-term "steampunk Linotype" project, to go with Tom Lipton's intaglio press!

@SethKotta

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChristopherTate Oshit my b

@derschwartzadder

Жыл бұрын

This NEEDS to happen. Stream powered typewriter for metal!

"Watch me eat crow on this in 9 minutes." Oh my god that killed me hahaha

I am always impressed by your work. You are a talented machinist, educator and "work hard for your $$". As a Patron I recommend others support you.

Beautiful piece. I also love how this doesn’t make the letters too perfect, there should still be that hand made feeling to it.

Dammit you genius. This saves my lettering for leatherwork. firing up F360 and heating up the 3d printer.

I worked for a company back in the late 1980s that made those punches, along with embossing and debossing steel type for canned food. I used to engrave the punches on a 3D pantograph. We also made holders for those punches so you could make up to 5-character production codes.

I enjoyed that one a lot, as is the tradition. I had just been losing sleep over what it is that separates us from the animals (since it obviously wasn’t toothbrushes) so thank you for that. You are always a slice of sunshine. 😎👍👀

It's nice when you hold your breath machining Stainless and the rough cut comes out like a mirror. Very satisfying.

I learnt so much from a single video, thank you so much for narrating all the decisions you're making along the way!

Nice job ...MR. Pete is so Cool........Enjoy Both you and MR. Pete. Thank you to all the folks who take the time to make these videos.

Beautiful, as always. Appearance counts. Love the bearing hack for truing up the material for the pins!

Variation in the letters is also a function of the length of the cutting edge of each letter. Thus, the 'I' is cut more deeply than the "Q' or the "N". Now, you could make a drop hammer with a guide with a scale to allow you to deliver energy to the stamp in proportion to the length of cutting edge. Some might say that would be obsessive.

@OmikronZeta

3 жыл бұрын

There exist commercially-made "moveable type" stamp sets where you insert letters into a fixture to 'roll your own' die - since all the letters are joined together in the fixture which receives the blow, they should all imprint to the same depth. I think that is how job shops would do parts for customers.

@Bosbulls

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that a sliding hammer would work nice. You could let it drop from the same height each time.

@OmikronZeta

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bosbulls Since each letter has a different area, if the height was the same each time, the smaller letters would be more deeply punched than the larger letters. Hence the reason for joining the entire word into one fixture.

Hi, something very similar to the Mr Pete method was documented by the late George Thomas for his single stamp punch holder many, many years ago. Being old school he used silver solder for the join which was in steel. I suspect the technique pre-dates even GT by many decades, if not a century or two but it is good to see it used in this application. George's two books are well worth read, combined with the modern kit like DROs and Loctite available now they give a very good solid foundation. They got me started with this wonderful hobby. It's not overstating it to say that GT was the guru's guru. Have a read folks, you will not regret it. BobUK.

Another dose of Quinn. You guys ( Adam, Tony Keith etc) are my theropy these days. One of the few things I look forward to these days. Hugs to shop cat from England ❤💚💛💜

I love your videos because your not afraid to share your mistakes and challenges. Most dont do this, and they are missing out on a lot. In the end it makes your videos for more educational, and the subject far more accessible for those of us who are learning, even someof us who dont own a lathe or mill..... yet ;) Cheers and keep up the good work!

Your videos are my favorite part of Saturday mornings.

Thanks for crediting Mr. Pete. I admire him. He reminds me of my shop teacher from 1958, Mr Bennett.

The CAD in the corner pointing out the feature you're working on is a nice touch. It really helps clarify what you're doing in each step.

The disappearing pin trick is magic and thanks for sharing that! My best magic trick is to make the lower half of #0-80 taps disappear, into otherwise finished parts.

K - A - T - Y - W - O - M - P - U - S Machinists do not want their work described as this under any circumstances. This is a word for wood elves.

@wiresmith2398

3 жыл бұрын

@@BobBlarneystone Lack of ability and training, usually. Not the elves, the complainant.

EXCELLENT video! Clear and well spoken. Very enjoyable.

Muito bom

Slick application of the Mr Pete method and excellent tool. I have been dissatisfied with my letterpunch abilities... now I know there is a cure. Thanks! 😁

If you use a dead blow hammer it might improve the stamping quality by taking some of the "bounce" out of the hammer strike. Another great video.

That’s a very nice tool. When I was trying to accomplish the same end result I drilled a square hole in the removable foot on the column of my arbor press and used my XY table to index. It was okay but slow going. Nice job.

Love your tiny end mill. The smallest I've used is 0.125". In my own letter/number punching adventures, I've found that a short length of 1" angle firmly clamped to the work gives me a solid ruler for character alignment, and I tune the kerning by eye. I try to strike each character only once. All my cars have aluminum tags on when the fluid was last changed! 😁

Excellent! Many years back I made a simple guide that I clamped in a quick-change toolholder of my lathe. It was fabricated from mild steel with a square hole to suit my punches. It worked far better than expected, with horizontal adjustment via the carriage giving complete control over kerning. Vertical alignment was courtesy of the toolpost adjuster. Thanks for your great videos. :o)

Very nice build. Must have been very satisfying when that line of letters turning out so beautiful.

So true! "...because chamfers are what separates us from the animals.." (13:42). Now that I come to think about it, I must say I've rarely if ever seen a chipmunk using a chamfering bit when he/she is machining brass blocks on the typical chipmunk-size milling machines that are so popular among the smaller mammals living in the prairie provinces in Canada. (Love your well-hidden and perfectly delivered humorous asides)

Brilliant and so very well narrated as always!

Your results with stainless are amazing. I love welding it but was scared of even 303, but after watching this I'm a lot more inclined to try that out.

That's an excellent solution young lady. Well done. Nicely executed also. You're an excellent mechanic/machinist.

An approachable approach. You may be pleased to know that I prioritize your videos the same way I do when a ToT video comes out. They get premium queue placement and normal (100%) play speed.

@Blondihacks

3 жыл бұрын

I am very pleased to hear that! That’s high company indeed. ☺️

That's a great idea Quinn. It's taken me years to get to a point where I can sort of do straight(ish) lettering. I'm just not using my imagination enough obviously!

Thank you for thinking of this and sharing!!! I haven't gotten all the way through the video as I comment- I wanted to express my gratitude! Now you have me thinking about modifying your idea to make a version for curved surfaces. Muchas gracias

Great project Quinn!! I think i may have a go at it. Thanks for the idea...i will definitely give you the credit!! Take care!!

Excellent piece! That works so good.

Love it. Great little design, fantastic showing of your steps.

Really enjoyed this project, best thing ive seen for holding letter punches straight - surprised I havent seen something like this in the hardware stores etc.

I have seen a lot of ideas on this. This is the best idea yet.

Love that your product has form AND function. Shop jigs tend to be short changed on the former.

Crazy how the universe works i literally just got a letter punch set and was wondering how I'd go about making a jig for it!

Great job. I was trying to figure something like this. I think putting a vee on the bottom though so it can be set on a round surface would be a nice addition

@Blondihacks

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea!

I did enjoy watching you do the Mr Pete method!very nicely done

Quinn, not only do I learn from this channel, but even more importantly, the word cattywampus never fails to make me smile. Thanks so very much for both.

Excellent technique! And well executed. Thanks for posting!

Brilliant solution to a common problem! Thank you. For those of us who have not your skills and tools, however, we’ll need to wait for a mass produced item or try something Q&D/DIY (quick and dirty) with a pair of Picatinny rails, set and squared on a mounting surface, with a couple of crossbars holding the punch in line - details not worked out yet.

Great Idea Quinn

I have sets of these punches but hardly use them because of the ransom note like output. Great idea! For a prototype it came out really nice. 👌

It’s simple and gets the job done. That makes it a success. Nice job!

Never going to make one of these, but I admire the craft work involved. Well presented. Respect.

Great idea for my arbor press. I think you solved my problem. Thanks, great video.

Cool project and nice work, Quinn. I do punch things with lettering quite a bit - until I find a cheap, used $50k-when-new laser engraver - so this will come in handy. Thanks for sharing this!

This is great! Just what I needed for my super secret Bitcoin private key pass phrase thingy. They sell stainless steel cards with letters for $100+ dollars for crypto passwords. I was thinking about making my own, but was not sure if I could live with misaligned lettering on something so important. So glad I found this channel, Mr. Pete sent me.

Hello Quinn, Nice little project tonight... Following any of the Mr. Pete methods is generally a smart move... Have a good weekend. Paul,,

Always a pleasure to watch ur vids

Great video. This is a pretty neat little tool. Thanks for sharing with us. Dan

Great design and a great build. They stay straight and your fixture looks really good. I have a set for letters and a set for numbers and I have often thought about making a guide for them but then I have not used them almost ever so my motivation is weak. Maybe this will get me to move on it sometime.

Great project

What a nice piece of kit!

I really like the inset drawings with arrows showing the feature being machined.

Beautiful work! so many awesome ideas in there!

An attractive and functional tool.

@therealpanse

3 жыл бұрын

Her name is... oh... nevermind.

Great job!

I love the use of the pins especially that they were purpose made for the project.

Excellent design, great job. Thanks for sharing.

i love this. I feel like the number one reason I want a lathe and cnc is to make tools that go way beyond “good enough.” This perfectly fits the amount of frustration of using punches without a guide. Not just good. Not just enough of a soliton to line them up like 4 pieces of wood. A solution that just annihilates the problem.

A very neat bit of toolmaking

Outstanding! Thanks for the lesson!

Your content is excellent and greatly appreciated.

Looks great

Thanks for demonstrating the method for machining the unmachianble corners. Having said that, this kind of jig with the same principle could also be designed with a machinable geometry. Oblong slot in the static part; rounded ends on left and right. Oblong slot in the carriage; rounded ends on top and bottom. When these slots intersect, they form a square well with sharp corners.

Impressive work!

Nice little stamping guide. I had to do some center punching on my 3 jaw chuck. Any time I swapped out the inside holds to outside hold or vise-versa I had problems of them being out of order - so I made 1 punch for jaw 1,,2 for 2, and 3 for jaw 3.

Random recommendation, then I saw all the measuring and I'm sold. :) Subbed

This is such a neat idea. It is almost one of those things where you can't believe it wasn't already a thing.

Nice Job! I made a very poor vertical alignment support for the punches to print equipment ID tags, but kerning was left to the user and some pencil marks. Your implementation is light year ahead of my kludge. If I ever get my workshop setup, I think this will be one of my very first projects.

Really enjoy your video format with the narration to them👍🏻

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Some of these methods look dangerously like woodworking 😁

@Blondihacks

3 жыл бұрын

That did cross my mind as I was installing dowel pins 😂

@perrybrown4985

3 жыл бұрын

@@Blondihacks with glue...

@MrRedstoner

3 жыл бұрын

For that matter KZread is showing me a list of related topics, and the second one is Woodturning (first is Lathes)

Neat! Great design! You could also make it work well for marking on cylindrical parts by making the bottom like an upside down V-block without much more work.

Yeah, these moments with the non-symmetrical parts. Happens way to often to me. Great video and very nicely made guide! I might try my own soon. Thank you for sharing.

Great idea, thanks for the inspiration.

Nice work Quinn

Back in grad school, I needed to make a rectangular microwave cavity with sharp internal corners and used what we called the “baseball stitch” method. Like the Mr Pete method, you make two “U” shaped pieces that fit over one another when one is rotated by 90 degrees. Solder them together and drill a coupling hole in one face and you’re done!

@andyinannarbor

3 жыл бұрын

@@cdorcey1735 this was a long time ago, and without the benefit of good modeling, it was impossible to know in advance the balance between soldered joints vs. poor Q due to rounded corners. Then there was the cavity loading with the frozen (1.2K - 20K) protein solutions, so I was thrilled that it worked at all.

I’m glad you mentioned clickspring because he probably would have used soft solder to join the brass bits and peened the ends of the pins to retain them and get them nice and tight before milling flush to make them invisible. That said, loved watching this, I’m jealous of your mill and lathe, and your presentation is great.