If only the Burn in NP was before damage. That one simple change would make this buff actually good.

@Vierdro

Ай бұрын

Would make her the next salter. Idk if that would be too broken but I think it's kinda balanced since she has such a low attack stat for a berserker anyway.

@acesockvims1671

Ай бұрын

Praying for a future NP Buff that makes her NP apply the Burn before damage 😭🙏

@xpotoh356

Ай бұрын

I'd prefer Kiyo's 1st skill to be buffed for defensive purposes. Prolong defense up to 4 (or even 5) turns and add a 500-1000 damage cut for the same duration. Like, she's a literal dragon, she's supposed to be durable. Because I don't think being able to loop gonna help Kiyohime as much as a solid defensive buff which is more far more versatile and usefull in the long run.

@markwakefield2030

Ай бұрын

Well Kiyo is still missing a NP buff so... Who knows?

@acesockvims1671

Ай бұрын

@@xpotoh356 While I agree that re-buffing her 1st Skill would have its uses and that she needs more defense, there's no way in hell Lasagna is giving any Servant 30% Defense up and a 1000 damage cut for 4 or 5 turns both, especially because the Skill is already on a 5 turn cooldown. Alternatively, the NP buff *could* also include a Defense up or a damage cut, since the NP is specifically her transforming into a dragon.

Most F2P servants usually don't get broken buffs anyway, i'll take what i can get

@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU

Ай бұрын

Counter point Ushi had an awesome skill buff and with the others she's very solid

@brunosanto3488

Ай бұрын

"Most F2P servants usually don't get broken buffs anyway" Except Nero.

@xpotoh356

Ай бұрын

@@brunosanto3488 Most people picked Salter 💀

@grimlock1440

Ай бұрын

@@brunosanto3488 Nero is story locked, not general pool servant.

@markwakefield2030

Ай бұрын

​@@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAUThere's also Regend

New farming meta with Kiyo/Caster Liz combo 😂

@mistertaz94

Ай бұрын

Caster Liz, Kiyo, and Yang Gufei

Nero's Buff: Broken, Overtuned, and Crazy. Kiyohime and Dobrynya's Buff: "Bad", Insignificant and Mediocre.

@kuryst8174

Ай бұрын

That's the power of ROME supremacy \o/

@providencebreaker1558

Ай бұрын

What? Dobryna can now enter the koyan/oberon meta when she couldn't before. It was what she needed even if most people are mad about it.

@cyrilmechai2918

Ай бұрын

Yes dobrynya bad

@cyrilmechai2918

Ай бұрын

​@@providencebreaker1558 no

Best way to probably use is a burn command set up but you'd get more back with vitch skills anyways. Or use an aoe burn unit then plug out on a 6 enemy wave

@Jack_Rakan

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the only AoE burn on a skill comes from Caster Elly. Still, I'll take any and all buffs for Kiyo, it's nice to see Lasengle finally remembering she exists.

@solitare4602

Ай бұрын

@@Jack_Rakan Lancer Kiyo's buffed Skill 1 has an AOE burn on it. Plushie used it in his buff demonstration.

@Jack_Rakan

Ай бұрын

@@solitare4602 huh, thanks for reminding me. I don't play on JP so I tend to forget some of the more minor stuff happening there.

@thefool8224

Ай бұрын

@@solitare4602 oh, so a burn amp also is considered as a burn debuff. i wasnt sure since it doesnt deal damage on its own

@solitare4602

Ай бұрын

@@thefool8224 No, it isn't. Lancer Kiyo's 1st skill actually burns all enemies instantly.

She is more of a CQ unit than a boss one. Eg, that TeslaFest CQ where the enemies had like 90% damage resistance though not against DoTs, making Spreading Fire really valuable.

Probably would've been good if the skill also inflicted Burn on the target, so you can actually immediately make use of it, even if it's only vs. 1 enemy.

Whoa, maybe now one of her buster cards can deal more damage than an entire cu lancer brave chain 😂 (I might be misremembering the joke).

If her burn on np goes before damage it would be better. Like how nitocris assassin is bad onky because death procs pre damage as she can loop very well if it was fixed like later units. Still don't like kiyo but whatever I don't use buster much aside Spartacus

I commented this in another video, but now she can loop her np 3 times in a very scuffed way, she would need maxed Kscope, one Koyan, two Oberons and some burn CC's in either the supports or herself, it would require hitting the enemy with a face card before the np but that way she can refund 10% on wave 1 so the Oberons fill her bar on wave 2 & 3. Someone should try it out to confirm, I cant do it myself since I dont have a JP account.

Is there anywhere we can find these tier lists you pull up or are they made on the spot?

I'm super early to a Myst vid? how rare. I think I've only used Kiyo maybe ~5 times? But always nice to see buffs!

i think what kiyohime needs is a way to get her burns before her NP but this feels like setup because unless another buff comes where its nero level busted this isnt a good buff giving her such a harsh demerit.

I feel like it's a pretty underrated buff for a 3-star. On a 5 turn cooldown, the value is actually pretty good. I'm especially a big fan of the gains on top of her already strong arts card, and the buster charge effect from a Koyanskaya support, so she can actually spam her NP pretty well. 30% defense down + 30% power mod is also nothing to sneeze at in terms of damage. The demerit does suck though.

6:28 she can farm now, you need: Kscope, Koyan, 2 Oberons and tons of burn CCs. See u/matowaar post in r/grandorder

They need to make the mana burst have aoe burn on activation and 30 np charge. The np should also burn before damage and make the stun chance 100%. All year 1 servants should have an np interlude by now. It's year 9

Why they hold back on the buff😢

They could fix her just by buffing any of her skills to apply burn 300 damage for 3 turns to all enemies since all skills have 5 turn cooldown at max level then again i doubt they want to make another 3 star able to buster farm easily

Im not even disappointed it isnt an OP skill, just happy my snek waifu is still loved😊

Kiyo + Cleo is probably a Nice farm setup for anti rider and with base Melu you can anti archer

Now they could give her a np buff and put the burn before the damage

Could of been way worse, honestly its still great regardless. She always had problems getting her np so pretty pog buff. Her np still hasn't been buffed so theres still hope for this skill to be amazing in the future.

I am happy with my 61 copies of Kiyo 😊

Lancer kiyohime does give enemies burn on skill and same with caster liz

next year kiyo s3 buff be like "remove debuff, apply burn every turn for 3 turns, buster up for 3 turns". i'll get her to 120 asap!

The cu brave chain is DONE

Take a shot every time Myst says "It's Kiyo"

Just use a super aoko support with burn command code on her buster so kiyo can get the full refund on np ez kiyo top tier confirmed

Yeah this just helps more with CQ than farming . The level 120 Kiyohime users in Japan should be pleased.

@thefool8224

Ай бұрын

the guy in my NA friend list is going to be happy with his 120 kiyo

Honestly would've just rather had the 30% pmod and a 30% battery, atleast make her usable for F2P farming. Sure it would put spartacus out of business but who cares anyways, its F2P vs F2P, and the pmod wouldn't even matter for farming anyways since the burn is after damage, but i guess free np5 3 stars as farmers is too value for them, -even though we have welfare farmers like summer valks coming up that is the 2nd best option in their slot behind tez-

What do you mean "still trash?" Kiyohime is great, the problem is the other ~90% of servants that fulfill the same role are overpowered!

An additional 6% DEF- on one enemy is better than the additional 6% DEF+ of her first buff. Getting the SAlter refund type is good. But the burn on NP only makes the damage+ pretty mid, and only made easier (but still not necessarily very easy) with CCs. I'm still hoping for an NP Buff, one that makes her burn pre-damage now too, and a buff that increases her Debuff Success Rate too maybe.

lol, just make her NP deal burn before damage then she'll be super solid

Double stacking 30%def down + 30% power mod seems like it would make up for her low attack. And now she has easier NP spam. So I think she could match Darius at tier C+, but with the major caveat that she's ironically NOT new player friendly as a 3*. She super wants HoneyLake and CCs to be viable. So maybe that does still warrant C...idk, just glad there's a buff, haha.

she can farm with double oberon koyan dark xD koyan s3 start with 100 np refunds 30 + 30 koyan s1 + 20 +20 oberon s1 50 + 50 oberon s2 she would still probably hit like a wet noodle at 120 gold fous but SHE CAN LOOP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

She's a little better so maybe she will see more plays with Paris or Summer Barghest.

The only time i use her is when i use paris xD

myst youre so extremely and unfairly biased sometimes its annoying

Let's be real: not everyone has Koyan (LimitedSSR) and I don't think a 3 _Berserker_ should have the same place for farming as 5* servants (In reality I simply not a big fan of -brainrotting- looping). Besides not every AOE servant should be about farm, because otherwise every character would be reskin of each other. She's a good F2P option for newbites who doesn't have iconic supports. (Unless they pick Jeanne/Waver/Tamamo from ticket) So always having an option of DPS berserker allows you to bring any support for specific situation. On another hand wtf I'm telling this, if devs changed support system and allowed to use NP's of non-friend servants, meaning you can bruteforce every single battle all to part 2. Edit: People go the easy (stupid) and boring path of "Just buff her to apply burn before NP damage", I as a genius, propose to buff her 1st skill into proper def.skill -Prolong def.up to 5 turns -Give her damage cut (1000) for the same duration. That change would make her into a solid unit for people without Koyan/Oberon/Waver and more importantly - she wouldn't be trash in every other area outside of farming. It's not a good thing that without support unit is _completly_ worthless.

@markwakefield2030

Ай бұрын

*To Shimousa if you are not a filthy EoR skipper.