Let's Talk About Fuel Pumps

While choosing the right pump for your exact application is going to be very specific, there are general rules that apply to nearly all street/strip systems. Here's the what and why of the pump we've decided to go with on our '68 Roadrunner.

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  • @buffdelcampo
    @buffdelcampo3 жыл бұрын

    Still here. Still paying attention. Thanks Tony!

  • @AtZero138

    @AtZero138

    3 жыл бұрын

    What's up Man..

  • @georgebonney90
    @georgebonney903 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate ya Uncle Tony and Kathy, thank u both

  • @smallbee1234
    @smallbee12343 жыл бұрын

    Question: Why do I like Uncle Tony? Answer: No pandemics and a shared love of Mopar cars.

  • @briang4470

    @briang4470

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is nothing more annoying than when people try to bring politics into everything even when the topic at hand has absolutely nothing to do with anything political.

  • @AtZero138

    @AtZero138

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes... thanks for saying ..

  • @Fee.1

    @Fee.1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@briang4470 it’s becoming just as irritating to see the constant comments about “no politics” ....as if nobody who makes these comments is capable of able to do exactly what they’re claiming is so critical that people do. Just appreciate it by stfu don’t mention the crap you’re saying you appreciate people not mentioning. It’s pretty simple.

  • @keepyourbilsteins
    @keepyourbilsteins3 жыл бұрын

    I'll add a tip I learned, especially if you drive your hotrod a lot in hot climates and use a return line regulator: Do NOT oversize the electric pump by too much. Most of the fuel is being returned to the tank and is getting hotter and hotter as it circulates. Remote mounting the regulator out of the engine compartment helps, as does installing a cooler on the return line. But for simplicity, I switched to a pump that more closely matched the actual peak demand of the engine.

  • @lonwillis783
    @lonwillis7833 жыл бұрын

    Wow Tony I haven't seen a crank driven fuel pump in 30 years. Your one of the best thanks again.

  • @kramnull8962

    @kramnull8962

    3 жыл бұрын

    Places like AutoZone drove people away from them. My Dad dailied a 68 F100 for about 30 years Dad worked there in the 90's-2000's and I don't know how many got the split in the side and squirted fuel all over the suspension. We'd start smelling gas and instantly knew what was wrong. So he was on the fuel pump, power steering pump and alternator warranty rotation plan. Rotate them out every 6 months... But hey, they were free and he was on SSI so he had to do what he had to do...

  • @lonwillis783

    @lonwillis783

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BRIAN14263 Thats what I meant a couple of years ago😁

  • @chasmontecarlo7271
    @chasmontecarlo72713 жыл бұрын

    Hi uncle tony thank you for all the good information on fuel pumps👍🔧🚘

  • @electrolytics
    @electrolytics3 жыл бұрын

    First repair I ever did by myself, Changed the fuel pump on my 69 Dart. Worked good.

  • @moparmike857
    @moparmike8573 жыл бұрын

    I have the same intake on a 400 with 509 purple shaft cam, windage tray and milled heads in my sons 86’ 2wd ram charger. She’s a screamer 💯

  • @plumcrazy_trackpak2545
    @plumcrazy_trackpak25453 жыл бұрын

    Great feedback Uncle Tony! Keep it 100 and stay loyal to efficiency! Much appreciated!

  • @DrShankenstein
    @DrShankenstein3 жыл бұрын

    As always thanks for the knowledge Uncle Tony

  • @HereIsRick
    @HereIsRick3 жыл бұрын

    That Roadrunner is the coolest car you own (in my opinion) and I'm looking forward to future content revolving around it.

  • @haros4567
    @haros45673 жыл бұрын

    Damn don’t see anyone talking about the fuel lines he used kinda wanted to read more about them

  • @dietervaloczky6051
    @dietervaloczky6051 Жыл бұрын

    I ran a holley red years ago in a 78 4dr C20 I stuffed a 4.3 V6 in with a Q jet and home built HEI, Mounted it on the frame up front and worked great as a puller.

  • @kgooch69
    @kgooch693 жыл бұрын

    I think you missed safety on this one uncle T. An electric pump should also have a shutoff for when the engine isn't running...I always wire mine through an oil pressure switch..got to crank a little till pressure comes up to start the pump...but if you ever roll the car you don't want the pump still going.

  • @wolfmanrebel874

    @wolfmanrebel874

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes..also handy for when your "wife" leaves the damn key on ...I have bypassed your crank issue 2 different ways, one I put a relay timer,that's an additional cost that many don't find necessary but 15 sec on is nice for priming the carb then it shuts down until oil pressure comes up....the other which is cheaper is wire up just as you do then have a "temporary on" push button in the car that runs the pump while you physically hold the button down , this setup also will get you home in the event your oil sending unit stops working but either way I have grown against switch on stay on wiring since I have had wife and childern,never was a problem when I was single imagine that😉

  • @wolfmanrebel874

    @wolfmanrebel874

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tom Cat i have thought of that but never took the time to do it,I primarily tinker with 40-50 year old ford trucks they all kinda get a different treatment but haven't went that far yet...now if/when I get a 70's 4door ford cab I'm going all out on something really special,the rest are beaters I work and play with now days

  • @wolfmanrebel874

    @wolfmanrebel874

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tom Cat oh yes..been there😉 been screwing around with these since they were on showroom floors...I'm convinced you just can't beat em if you ACTUALLY use your truck

  • @wolfmanrebel874

    @wolfmanrebel874

    3 жыл бұрын

    I typically ground straight to the block my obvious main cable, then a 10 guage ground from engine to firewall on a clean non painted surface and the small 14 guage accessories wire on battery cable to fender once again clean unpainted surface and with that i have never had any issues even running significant aftermarket accessories...actually I have a 74 that I added an additional wire from starter bolt to frame rail...I don't remember why I did that I did it like 20 years ago...I think it may have been tail light issue

  • @GnarshredProductions

    @GnarshredProductions

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfmanrebel874 Ive always just wired my fuel pumps to a flip switch in the car. It is a smart idea to have the switch hidden somewhere so if someone tries to steal your car the car wont run. We do this all the time with 1990's honda's because theft is an issue with these cars they get stolen all the time but if I had a muscle car I would still do it because you can never be too safe.

  • @tylerschultz2765
    @tylerschultz27653 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing info to know, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!

  • @connorwilson8696
    @connorwilson86963 жыл бұрын

    uncle tony going electric over mechanical? im crushed my life has no meaning now.

  • @emanyo

    @emanyo

    3 жыл бұрын

    With today’s gas, electric is helpful!

  • @bcbloc02

    @bcbloc02

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well it beats the ultra reliable gravity feed alternative that fills your motor full of gas when the needle doesn't seat perfect. :-)

  • @snakeballs8965

    @snakeballs8965

    3 жыл бұрын

    Electric IS better period. It will go above and beyond what combustion engines could ever hope to do. But combustion is art, it's vicious, it's measured, it's passionate... Photoshop may be better than what you can do with real paint, but it's still not the same.

  • @superduty4556

    @superduty4556

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@snakeballs8965 can I recharge my battery in 5 minutes?

  • @petermajkovica3700
    @petermajkovica37003 жыл бұрын

    Where were you when I first started playing with electric pumps, would have saved me alot of grief and money 👍again great info

  • @zarkeh3013
    @zarkeh30133 жыл бұрын

    Hah! I like how you mentioned the Ballast Resistors! ***Ohmmmmmmm*** I fricked up my '78 f150 resistor wire by that elec pump! now it's a copper wire with an inline fuse and completely EFI'd minivan wasted spark coilpack.

  • @tomtheplummer7322

    @tomtheplummer7322

    3 жыл бұрын

    OHM...😑

  • @AlienGrade
    @AlienGrade3 жыл бұрын

    I know it's two different things but, I love hearing the Mopar Starter whine and not start the first or second time and the third time it Rumbles to life, I am a purest and the sentimental feeling of how it was done in the 70's is pure Nostalgic Gold. My brother who is a "Mechanic" brought up the Idea of an Electrical Fuel Pump on my 70 Cuda.... after research of the Noise, connect to Battery, more Wires, Fuses, etc. it would have been a regret, goes to show a title does not mean common sense. Btw I looked up his horoscope and he should have been a bookkeeper Yup that says it all.

  • @Nfscarbon07
    @Nfscarbon073 жыл бұрын

    I ordered the Carter 4070, ran 2 tees with a check valve in between so the pump can't feed a little into the tank, and I got a momentary toggle switch to prime that can also stay on if I want, relay with keyed ignition so it can't be turned on with the truck off, can't wait to install it!

  • @justgriff1295
    @justgriff12953 жыл бұрын

    Can’t wait for the 451 Stroker build!

  • @wasitipico8742
    @wasitipico87423 жыл бұрын

    Thx needed this info my 72 kingswood is always dry after some time going to buy me a helper electric one to start it up 👍

  • @erickgalvan293
    @erickgalvan293 Жыл бұрын

    Great video as always very informative.

  • @jakewilkerson
    @jakewilkerson3 жыл бұрын

    Just here for the algorithm. Thanks for another great video Tony

  • @demogadget
    @demogadget3 жыл бұрын

    Here in holland I had a Hardi electric feul pomp on a secend gen Camaro. It was a pusher but used for years like a puller :P. The only downside was the hard "tikking" from under the bonnet

  • @Sedan57Chevy
    @Sedan57Chevy3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Uncle T!

  • @kencohagen4967
    @kencohagen49673 жыл бұрын

    My buddy built a 68 Charger with a 383. It ran 9.5-1 compression flat top pistons, solid lifter cam with flat tappets, Holley Street Dominator, 906 heads ported with Mopar Performance Templates, and of course Headers. I can’t remember the size, but the engine shifted at 7,000 rpm. This was a street strip car that probably would have run a hydraulic cam for any of our customers, but this was built by the Machinest who owned the car. The exhaust heat crossovers were blocked off, and it ran a windage tray with a deep sump pan, ran one quart low. We estimated hp to be between 450 and 500 hp. The car was also set up for drag racing with 318 torsion bars up front, an 8 3/4 rear end with properly adjusted pinion snubber. Aft Er the engine was broken in, 3,000 miles according to Mopar Performance’s DC engine Bible, we took it to the track to see what the car would run. We took it to Firebird Raceway when it first opened for some Friday Night drags. They had some teething problems there from the start. The owner dialed in a 13.0 on the fist pass because we had no idea what it would run. We estimated low 12’s but you never know. The car was runn8ng 104+ Octane boost in a mix of regular and High octane which in AZ was 91. Most everyone else gets 93 octane. I don’t know why they shorted us. The car next to us was a regular at the track, a 70 Maverick with a 300 cid truck engine in it. That’s a big six with 4” bore and 4” stroke. If he punched it out .030” that makes 306 cubes. The car ran consistent @11.0’s every time I’d ever seen it run, and that was a lot over the years at two tracks, Firebird and Phoenix Dragway in Whitman AZ. So we lined up next to him and his light went off first, ours 2 seconds later. In other words they swapped dial ins at the lights and he got our leave. The Charger launched hard, just like it was supposed to. When the driver sidestepped the clutch the car stood up, axle wrapped as far as the pinion snubber would let it moving the instant ant center towards the rear tires and then if lurched forward, hard and T by the end of the track it started to fall off. Perplexed we made a second pass, and this time, the lights were still reversed, but by mid track my buddy had caught the Mavick, u til it fell off, a bit sooner the time. We brought it back to the pits where we had towels soaking in ice water, put them on thr 8ntak runners to cool things off and began checking everything, the car had an alternator cutoff switch, but in the pits the battery was right up where it should be. So it wants a battery issue. We checked the distributor cap and rotor, and they were fine. We swapped the fuel filter next to the carb checke the 0lug wires with an ohmmeter and everything was fine. We began to suspect the fuel pump, and we didn’t have a paste with us. The next pass it was more of the same, sweet launch, catching the car next to us by mid track, but this time it fell off much sooner. We made one more pass and it fell flat on s face by mid trac. Obviously there was something wrong and it was geting worse, so we packed up and headed back to his house, and I followed in case had to tow him home. The next da we got a new fuel pump. Mechanical, and an electric that we mounted just outside the tank. He test drove it down all empty road and it did the same thong. We brought it back h9me, took and at hose and blew out the sock filter in the gas tank. But it didn’t blow off any debris, it blew the sock off the pickup tube, completely. So we drained the gas tank and put it n his street car and what wouldn’t ft there or in his five gallon tank went into my truck. Always willing to help! The we pulled the tank out of the car and discovered that it was full of rusty, and the tank sock had gotten plugged during our race night. So we got a replacement tank mounted it a made a 1/2” steel line from the electric pump at the tank all the way up to the mechanical pump, then int9 the carb. The mechanical pump had a pressure regulator so we could adjust that slightly, and we kept it at 9lbs pressure. So now the car was getting gas when it was needed, we ran a second battery mounting both in the trunk in parallel so it would lose a charge running the electric fuel pump and electronic ignition during each pass. The next weekend out saw high 11’s. What else could you ask for. A few weeks later I had an opportunity to drive the car and it was extremely docile at lower rpms with the four speed. Very 0leasent to drive, and after we sorted out the fuel delivery problems it rams very well at the track! I think we were running Carter pumps as we were factory direct with Carter, and when your paying cost plus 5% for inventory control and shipping, why wouldn’t you? The Holley I take was a used piece and it ran a thermoquad tuned for the motor.

  • @adamrodenberg1557
    @adamrodenberg15573 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Carter electric pump a few years ago. I don't remember which part number it was, but it didn't work well at all. I tried remounting several times as close and level to tank as possible, still didn't work... Sent my hard to find mechanical pump off to be rebuilt, and it's been fine ever since... I can't wait to see how it works for you, please keep us updated... Really like your channel, keep up the great work/videos!!!!!

  • @adamrodenberg1557

    @adamrodenberg1557

    3 жыл бұрын

    One downside to electric pumps is that some of them are very noisey.

  • @wheels-n-tires1846
    @wheels-n-tires18463 жыл бұрын

    I went electric out of paranoia once... My 318 67 Dart GT fuel pump had an uncommon failure. One day the car wouldnt turn over. Ok, changed starter. New one, same thing. WTH?? Tried to bar engine over, it was really difficult. Uh-oh, time to drop the pan. Pulled the plug and the stream blew the plug outta my hand. Overflowed the drain pan by a few gallons!! The pump had completely filled the crankcase with gas til it was hydrolocked!! After dropping pan, wiping everything out, and a few oil changes back to back after just cranking engine over without spark, was back in business!! That engine was absolutely spotless inside after that!! Hung an electric pump out back and blocked off the mech hole because of sheer paranoia of a Hiroshima-like future event. I was young...🤣🤣

  • @AudiophileStooge
    @AudiophileStooge2 жыл бұрын

    This was very helpful. Thank you

  • @easygoing2479
    @easygoing24793 жыл бұрын

    Great that the Road Runner is getting the spotlight on you channel! All the hot rodding and mods you do on the A-bodies and other metal is good, but the B-body Mopars RULED the streets back in the day. They were the brutes that kicked sand in everyone's faces.

  • @GoZipper
    @GoZipper3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the great info!

  • @GeekAndSon
    @GeekAndSon Жыл бұрын

    super helpful. I am doing this now. Geek and Son

  • @taylorsutherland6973
    @taylorsutherland69732 жыл бұрын

    I also put a cheap crash switch from a Ford cop car crown vic in the trunk inline with the pump circuit. That way if you are in a crash or impact of any kind it cuts power to the pump. Just hit the red button on the switch to reset it. Can be mounted anywhere in the car. Got it for $10 at the loca yard. For guys running the electric prime pump for their mechanical pump, wire it through a relay, ground the relay cpil from the oil pressure switch. That way when the engine is running (has oil pressure) the pump automatically stops.

  • @martinwallingford3773
    @martinwallingford37733 жыл бұрын

    My '66 F100/351 Cleveland has had mechanical fuel pump issues, going thru them every 5000 miles or so since I moved to an area with just ethanol fuel. The issue was the weep seal was blowing out and oil was sprayed everywhere, popular opinion is that the ethanol in the fuel is eating away at the seal. Wether this is the case I too decided to use a Carter P4070 and plan the install next week. I also hope this will solve my cold start issues I have with the truck. Thanks for the vid, it confirms I made the right choice on which electric fuel pump to go with. About the size of the line, I have 3/8" from the tank to the pump and 3/8" from the pump to the carb, is this ok?

  • @Fentertainment
    @Fentertainment2 жыл бұрын

    @uncletonysgarage Can you use the 3 way fuel filter at the top of the engine with a holley blue line electric pump? My 85 c10 has the electric pump and also has vapor lock issues when restarting the engine when it is hot. Thanks

  • @stoneylonesome4062
    @stoneylonesome406211 ай бұрын

    I’m a big fan of Bosch K-Jetronic. That is the most reliable, analogue fuel injection system.

  • @Jimmyk63
    @Jimmyk633 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your insitghts and video 🙂❤👍

  • @gregleenyit
    @gregleenyit3 жыл бұрын

    Wait is he actually using a fender cover! Or are my eyes playing tricks on me again?

  • @markg7030

    @markg7030

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's one of the few cars that has paint on it. I think Tony has 13 cars and maybe 3 have a decent paint job.

  • @venge1894

    @venge1894

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markg7030 He daily's alot of them but I imagine even Uncle Tony has a few garage queens.

  • @SirEpifire
    @SirEpifire3 жыл бұрын

    Really curious if Tony is still running the vapor separator filters from one of his older videos. My stock vapor line is rusted out, so sadly I can't reroute my fuel troubles back to the tank till I replace that.

  • @SuperJoes70
    @SuperJoes703 жыл бұрын

    Tony great video you were talking about getting fuel line from a pluming supply place could you explain a little more on the type and where I can get it ? can you buy it on line ? thanks Joe

  • @billhill7330
    @billhill73303 жыл бұрын

    On my 61 Chevy pick up, I bypassed the mechanical pump and put in an inexpensive electric pump. Truck doesn't even need the choke anymore. Just run the pump for a few seconds and it fires right off.

  • @scotthuenemeier2018
    @scotthuenemeier20182 жыл бұрын

    Awesome channel!!

  • @joshuap3188
    @joshuap31883 жыл бұрын

    May I suggest a momentary switch for the helper pump as that will make sure you don't forget to switch it off.

  • @joshuagarvey9362
    @joshuagarvey93622 ай бұрын

    Another great video ty.

  • @MikeAndNary
    @MikeAndNary3 жыл бұрын

    Electrical fuel pumps from now on? Tony, is that you? What are you smoking?

  • @sandysanders5137

    @sandysanders5137

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnpossum556 he hasnt finished the 1st dam thing since he started... hes hittin the bong w/Cali sour diesel buds & these dreamers run behind him... pitiful...

  • @luisgonzalez8423

    @luisgonzalez8423

    2 жыл бұрын

    @UCxJbFmPaqkF9lxJ8zkCMb2Q bitch you still in his comments , if you was respectable you would watch him at all. Who raised you?

  • @FranksModelAviationWorkshop
    @FranksModelAviationWorkshop2 жыл бұрын

    I love the Amway fuel squirt bottle. 👍

  • @armygreenfj3924
    @armygreenfj3924 Жыл бұрын

    Question for you. I recently bought a edelbrock 650 avs2 carburetor and edelbrock mechanical fuel pump rated at 6psi. Would you still recommend installing a fuel regulator?

  • @Tommy_Mac
    @Tommy_Mac3 жыл бұрын

    I was going to use a 70 Gallon Per Hour pump, but I wasn't going to be out that long.

  • @dieseldave71

    @dieseldave71

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get one that pumps in gallons per minute

  • @fitformandfunctiondearborn7155
    @fitformandfunctiondearborn71553 жыл бұрын

    Excellant information

  • @Tk-ou9ec
    @Tk-ou9ec3 жыл бұрын

    Over here in oz my 1980 Chrysler with a 318 was running a mechanical fuel pump but once the cam,intake and 4 barrel edelbrock went on I was told the wheezy little mechanical pump supplied only 25gph! Which wouldn’t be enough,So he installed a carter gold electric fuel pump. Seems to run fine and the pump is not that noisy at all.

  • @grantbellinger7403
    @grantbellinger740310 ай бұрын

    Beautiful mate,have a lovely day cobba!

  • @MikeS-ci5qw
    @MikeS-ci5qw3 жыл бұрын

    UT can you use anodized fittings with that braided hose?

  • @speedy_pit_stop
    @speedy_pit_stop3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, just what I wanted to know.

  • @ArthurSperotto
    @ArthurSperotto3 жыл бұрын

    Why do I not have those same percolation issues with that same exact mechanical pump on my daily 71 Dart? (360LA) As long as I'm using the oem vapor return line, that is.

  • @emanyo
    @emanyo3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I could’ve used this info a few months ago when I was having fuel issues. I been through a few pumps and fuel pressure regulators. I’m now using that carter 4070 pump you got. Has a built in regulator, it’s been great!

  • @lelenbates3367
    @lelenbates33672 жыл бұрын

    I have a 77 GMC K25 with dual tanks, what fuel pump would be right for that? I was thinking of going electric and using the driver side fuel tank as the primary with the fuel return to that tank because I am having vapor lock problems with the carb when I have a long red light and it want to stall. Will the Carter pump be a good choice since I have to place it past the tank selector valve? I plan on using a three port fuel filter with the restriction orifice.

  • @johnchrysler644
    @johnchrysler6443 жыл бұрын

    Uncle Tony whats a good combo for a 400 BB cam and headers 800 cfm thermoquad just trying to pick you brain on this topic i have 440 that im going to biuld but got the 400 cheap and thought putting in my car till i get the 440 done

  • @darkleg7355
    @darkleg7355 Жыл бұрын

    The fuel pump just went out in my 70 vette, 350 small block w/Holly 750. So now I have to have it flat bed to a garage to put a new one in. It kills me because back in the day I was a Chevy mechanic but I'm 65 and don't have any way to do it myself.

  • @peters8758
    @peters87583 жыл бұрын

    The push pump in my V8 Vega's fuel tank quit, so rather than dropping the tank to replace the dead one, I removed the dummy plate on the SBC block and installed an old 283 fuel pump there. It pulled right past the non-functional pusher pump in the tank. That shameful setup became a speed limiter if you tried to exceed 120 mph (which was unwise in that deathtrap anyway).

  • @dankruger1
    @dankruger13 жыл бұрын

    Tony, your hemi pump can be rebuilt. Mancini carries kits, and although i have done a couple im not real thrilled with the chineez feeling kit, but it can be done. As far as electric on the street = noisy and and i would run some sort of oil pressure or tach signal switch

  • @johnlewis135
    @johnlewis1352 жыл бұрын

    Again thank you..Guys..

  • @DyingWillofTheUchiha
    @DyingWillofTheUchiha3 жыл бұрын

    Hey so I have a question. I bought an electrical pump offbrand that looks like it was suppose to be a holley knock off. Rated at like idk 140gph? some high number 14psi. I bought a holley regulator meant for idk 4.5-9psi (says only use with electrical pump but idk what difference it makes with a regulator.) I plumped it all started it up and even with 2 regulators, I used a return style and deadhead and it over powered the system and had the needle on my reader at 15psi. Flooded the carb multiple times. Do you think this was an issue of too powerful of a pump or too weak of a regulator? Also I read on some forums that the size of the return feed is important on a regulator and can change the pressure. I never bothered to reroute the return line but I did notice it was way smaller than the "feed line" which I read isnt really good but the stock pump on my sbc had a smaller return line on the mechanical pump when I first got it.

  • @CheezyDee
    @CheezyDee3 жыл бұрын

    Every now and then, one of my gearhead friends has fuel issues and decides to put an electric pump in... then the REAL FUN problems start, like leaky float valves or a chinesium pressure regulator allowing a gallon of fuel into the intake.

  • @livewire2759

    @livewire2759

    3 жыл бұрын

    What I hate is when people take the time to install an electric pump but don't bother by-passing the mechanical one. Half the time they don't wire them up worth a crap, the wires get pinched or rub through (some people don't even bother wiring it through a fuse, just a wire from the battery, to a toggle switch, and to the pump) and the pump shorts out or they forget to shut it off and kill the battery, then they bring it to me to fix. I ask them why they didn't just replace the mechanical pump and they look at me like *I'M* the idiot.

  • @AtZero138

    @AtZero138

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had a Pressure regulator... ahhh, let's call it a Shower Head.. best description.. thank Jesus Chrysler that I was only moving my car 10 feet.. the word Gas is in the name and he's called Mr.. just sayin.. be safe out there..

  • @AlienGrade

    @AlienGrade

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AtZero138 Just speak plain English next time.

  • @livewire2759

    @livewire2759

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AtZero138 LOL "Jesus CHRYSLER" That's hilarious!

  • @AtZero138

    @AtZero138

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AlienGrade what the fuck is your problem... you took the time.. so what is it then.. I said a Mr Gasket Fuel pressure regulator turn into a shower head, filling the concave portions of the manifold with pools of gas.. you good now..

  • @rzs17l
    @rzs17l2 жыл бұрын

    Would you be able to show how to check fuel pressure using a Vacuum Gauge on an upcoming video and if a fuel pressure regulator is needed? This would be in regards to a 65 Olds 442 with a 400 cui stock engine. Thanks

  • @SteelSurgeon
    @SteelSurgeon3 жыл бұрын

    You readin my mind Uncle Tony?

  • @mexicanspec
    @mexicanspec3 жыл бұрын

    When you put a helper pump at the back, can the mechanical pump pull the gas through it with no damage to the electric pump?

  • @mrdanforth3744

    @mrdanforth3744

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and the electric pump will push gas thru the stock pump without damage.

  • @maddkraut03
    @maddkraut033 жыл бұрын

    UT, as usual excellent, but I think I have seen some old GM mech fuel pumps with a tell tale hole, that if a diaphragm breaks, it will leak gasoline onto the ground, and not into the crankcase? Been a while.

  • @MoparMan-ff8fb
    @MoparMan-ff8fb3 жыл бұрын

    I noticed even the well known named brands / built mechanical fuel pumps like Carter ect are now made in china or Mexico ect and cheaply built . I've had to keep an extra pump in the box behind the seat . but I'm think about electric fuel pump . I was told 5 psi max of fuel pressure for 1 - 2 barrel carbs and 6 psi max for 4 barrels ?

  • @chrishensley6745

    @chrishensley6745

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same fuelpump problems for me man on all my ol Chevies in the last couple of years.even Delphi is made in China....sad times.

  • @allanmcelroy9840

    @allanmcelroy9840

    3 жыл бұрын

    My 4bbl Edelbrock will flood at 7psi. I have a electric high flow 155gph QuickFuel pump paired with a return Aeromotive regulator (1/2in pickup and return with 3/8 from regulator to carb, more adjustable that way)

  • @MoparMan-ff8fb

    @MoparMan-ff8fb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@allanmcelroy9840 make sure when you take the top of the edlebrock off and flip it upside down check the float level . I set mine at about 1/2" - 11/32's with gasket on carburator housing lid and make sure no more then 6 psi while running at idle and when you reev it up . I also take a autobody scotch brite pad and sand the hinges of the fuel float just to polish them only then take out the fuel needle and scrub the 3 spots of the fuel needle to make sure their smooth and then clean everything with carb choke cleaner and reassemble. you can use a long drill bit same size as mentioned up top just use the end the goes into the drill

  • @allanmcelroy9840

    @allanmcelroy9840

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MoparMan-ff8fb had not considered scotchbrite material for cleaning

  • @MoparMan-ff8fb

    @MoparMan-ff8fb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@allanmcelroy9840 its just enough of a lite adbrasive to clean the brass . I also lightly scribe the floats as well . check where the float pivots on the brass rod that flat round area the pivots up against the metal tower that the brass rod slides through and make sure its not rubbing up against it and the float has the freedom of pivoting als make sure on the floats that the brass tab on the back of the floats are adjusted rich so the float doesnt touch the bottom of the fuel bowl

  • @jamestaylor1078
    @jamestaylor10783 жыл бұрын

    Fuel filter before or after the electric pump?

  • @stevenbarrett9634
    @stevenbarrett96343 жыл бұрын

    Noticed gas in my oil in my 440, brand new Holley. Assuming it’s the mechanical pump leaking 🤔 sat for years before I got it going.

  • @GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
    @GlamStacheessnostalgialounge3 жыл бұрын

    I always wanted to go electric but heck I couldn't figure electric pumps out. I don't exactly like mechanical ones and I still can't get rid of the gas smell in my oil from almost half a year ago but it's simple and it works good enough for government work.

  • @70humbler
    @70humbler Жыл бұрын

    Might be a dumb question but how do you heat up the braided water line? Thanks.

  • @bobmoon9494
    @bobmoon94942 жыл бұрын

    On my 1972 Mercury Montgo, 351C engine, the mechanical fuel pump gets hot and quits pumping. I put a Holley Red pump on it. Bingo! Solved my problem. Installed fuel guage, the pressure never drops. Stays at 7psi. Factory fuel tank. Weiand Tunnel-Ram 2 450 cfm Holley carbs. Thanks for info.

  • @whatyoumakeofit6635
    @whatyoumakeofit66353 жыл бұрын

    Loved the close up of the engine bay. I gre up with my dads 70 satellite 383 alpine white.

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff1113 жыл бұрын

    I love the amount of knowledge you have. The haters may not understand, but I do perfectly. THIS is what is missing in many modern hot rodders, and they also tend to lack the ability to listen and learn. I have applied things you have talked about to much more modern cars, namely a 1993 Acura Integra with a high compression (12.26:1) B18A1 with a ported GS-R head, a 1998 Honda Prelude with a JDM H22 and my 1992 Honda Civic with its D15B7 engine. Everything you talk about, still (mostly) applies to those engines. There are a few things that had to be changed, mostly because Honda engines tend to be happiest around 13.5:1 AFR under heavy load, and like to run around 15:1 to 14:1 under light loads. I have shown some of these videos to my friend with the Integra, and he even understands better what I have done with his car.

  • @MrTheHillfolk
    @MrTheHillfolk3 жыл бұрын

    Was a shocker when a buddy put a gauge on his gto and went for a rip. Higher gears the more the pressure dropped. He added an electric in the setup and it felt like it added 30hp. (Not a gain really I know , just getting back what's lost due to issues)

  • @71wicker
    @71wicker3 жыл бұрын

    In one of my 440’s! I haven’t touched in 4-5 years I gave it a refresh,maniacal pump. No matter what I did it kept running out out gas????? My god I lost sleep over this..long story short.. the fuel pump push pin was worn down and wasn’t depressing the fuel pump arm in far enough! That’s a first time for me! Just saying.

  • @AlanSchildroth
    @AlanSchildroth5 ай бұрын

    You can put a few one way gas valves in to keep the gas where you need it!

  • @timcooper6389
    @timcooper63893 жыл бұрын

    Hi there!,1958 AMC Rambler Super (pt.21) here, watched this video and learned a thing or two, but I'll have to search for videos of people who go into details about how a mechanical fuel pump can be rebuilt (if it needs to be) my 195.6 ohv six cylinder engine that's being rebuilt uses one of those really old mechanical fuel pumps and I don't know if it works, I've got my fingers crossed!

  • @pauberrymon5892
    @pauberrymon58923 жыл бұрын

    An A/C thumper pump will push 5 gallons of gasoline in about 8-10 seconds😀 through a single Spread bore Holley 800 DP 😀 but it has to be in the rear of the car or it will stop pumping. I had 1 on a 454 in a 57 Chevy years ago, it sucked up 5gals of feul in 4 gears in about 10 seconds. What a ride. Wish I still had it😔

  • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
    @TOMVUTHEPIMP Жыл бұрын

    Mechanical fuel pump for the win. I dont have an issue changing the pump on occasion. The Chevy OBS truck in tank pumps give up the ghost constantly and you have to take the bed off each time and its a huge pain. A lot easier to lean over the fender and change one.

  • @OlympusHeavyCavalry
    @OlympusHeavyCavalry3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers :-)

  • @TheOverisel
    @TheOverisel3 жыл бұрын

    Tony do a video on the dual quad intakes you use. I see OEM iron 383 and Offenhauser in your garage. Many people have forgotten about Offy as Edelbrock became the biggest player.

  • @Welcometofacsistube

    @Welcometofacsistube

    3 жыл бұрын

    Had a duel 4 barrel spread bore offy for a b engine for a long time. Guy offered me a bunch of money for it. Still regret selling it

  • @jacobstrawn1986

    @jacobstrawn1986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Welcometofacsistube offenhauser still makes the daul 4 spread-bore intake for the 383/400, it's the offenhauser 5750. Summit racing has them on their website.

  • @AryDontSurf
    @AryDontSurf3 жыл бұрын

    I went electric too, I felt a little ...fancy... But it works really well. I'd run the mechanical but the China repros they sell for stovebolts are no good

  • @AtZero138

    @AtZero138

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... I've forgiven you for lots of things, let just get that out of the way... so I just added to the List.. 😆.. Oi oi oi Brother.. love ya

  • @markteskey2838
    @markteskey283810 ай бұрын

    would like to know where you get your braided hose. Cant seem to find what you are using.

  • @russriley3005
    @russriley3005 Жыл бұрын

    some fords have that helper pump in the tank,my question is can i use that helper pump with a mechanical pump? i am converting a fuel injected with a carb

  • @jon-christiankaczor5384
    @jon-christiankaczor53843 жыл бұрын

    @UncleTony'sGarage , why don't you get like a delphi pump for an lsi based engine and pull the sending unit and just put the pump right onto the outlet fuel line and push thru that and then you can mount the regulator underneath by the tank for that hidden stock appearance. Ive learned that Delphi pumps running straight and not off pulse width modulation work great on street motors

  • @jon-christiankaczor5384

    @jon-christiankaczor5384

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also they will suck gas also the have a v8 swap replacement electric fuel pump for the old bronco 2s that used a pump on the fram rails and those are also puller pumps

  • @kat5232
    @kat5232 Жыл бұрын

    I am about to run a 3/8 hardline from tank to pump then a -8 to filter and carb is that ok??

  • @livewire2759
    @livewire27593 жыл бұрын

    I just replaced the mechanical pump on my 79 suburban. It hadn't been running well for a few weeks, kept getting worse, turned out the pump was leaking internally, returning more fuel than it was getting to the carb. I plugged the return hose, which made it run a whole lot better, but it started spraying fuel out the side of the pump. I grabbed an old pump out of the shop, took about 30 minutes to install it. Hot rods are one thing, run whatever pump you want, but my stock, daily drivers will never, ever see electric pumps. I can still get gas without ethanol in it, but like Tony said, it still evaporates out of the carb if the truck sets for a week. That doesn't bother me, it just takes a few more cranks. As long as I can still get new replacement mechanical pumps, why bother spending 3x the time and labor to install an electric pump?

  • @ArdFarkable

    @ArdFarkable

    2 жыл бұрын

    I HATE when you see a nice old classic and before it fires up, you hear an electric fuel pump GRRRRRRRRROOOAAANNNNNNNN . It's super obnoxious. I have a new holley 80gph mech pump and a holley 4160 carb, my car regularly sits for a week, it starts right up with one pump of the gas. I seriously don't understand what everyone is talkin about. I'm always using 93 octane, maybe it's a better blend and tony is using 87 could be worse?

  • @livewire2759

    @livewire2759

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ArdFarkable Thank you, I'm glad someone agrees. What I hate the most about electric pumps is that they're usually installed half assed, with self drilling screws right into the underbody, then plumbed right into the stock system by cutting metal lines and installing hoses so it has to pump through the old mechanical pump anyway.

  • @gulfy09
    @gulfy093 жыл бұрын

    Ut on my older diesel i made a fuel heater i wrapped it around my upper rad hose then back into injection pump i truly feel it run smooter than b4..my 2 cents again..

  • @2000freefuel

    @2000freefuel

    3 жыл бұрын

    yup even OEM Diesel engines like some heat in the fuel!

  • @bobbyparker3215
    @bobbyparker32152 жыл бұрын

    I have a dodge ram d100 Drive 3 or 4 miles down the road starves for gas and dies. Should I drop the tank? Or run a electric fuel pump?

  • @modularmahem12
    @modularmahem123 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, Tony. Thanks. You are great to watch. I always learn something from you.

  • @ericabercrombie6780
    @ericabercrombie67803 жыл бұрын

    A properly functioning mechanical fuel pump should not be malfunctioning or encountering any percolation issues. They will work perfectly fine on a 300-500 hp engine assuming all is well with your fuel system (i.e. no restrictions on the suction side, etc)

  • @SweatyFatGuy
    @SweatyFatGuy3 жыл бұрын

    I went electric way back in 1995 because the 455 I built for my 70 GTO would run out of gas half way through second gear with any mechanical pump I put on it. They just couldn't pull fuel from way back at the tank under hard acceleration. it only ran mid 12s with a 2.93 gear, but that was enough to do it. I've tried mechanical pumps since, like the muscle car pumps, the expensive high volume ones, and they just can't hang with my mild 455s. The more powerful 455s that ran 11s and 10s wouldn't even make it through first gear with the mechanical pumps. I run a power wire to a relay, then to the pump so I can put a switch on it. I run all my old stuff on E85 or HE100 (that is straight ethanol with 4%-10% water in it. I make the stuff from tree sap) I haven't had any problems with rubber line going bad in the last 14 years. Prior to that running pump gas or race gas it was a constant thing having to replace the rubber in the system. Its the additives they put in the gas that is causing the problems. I won't even build a pump gas engine anymore, why bother with low compression when I can crank the hell out of the SCR and run E85? $1.85 a gallon that will run great on the street with 16:1 compression and iron heads, or $2.40 a gallon for 87 octane that has a hard time with 8.8:1 compression... 9.5:1 that the pump gas Pontiac guys want so bad needs 93 octane that is $3.98 here. Yeah I go with the cheap stuff and run the 1967-1970 small chamber heads on my 400s and 455s. Hell my daily drivers have 11.5:1 and 13:1. One of my sleeper toys is getting 12:1 with iron heads on a 400 then a couple GT45s hidden under the trunk. Yeah 12:1 with boost, no problem at all on the yeast pee.

  • @livewire2759

    @livewire2759

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really? A couple of years ago I helped a guy put a 455 (big cam, high compression) in a '71 GTO. We used the stock mechanical pump for the 455 and it works just fine. He hasn't had the car on a track, but I'm guessing it runs about the same, mid 12s, maybe low 13s, with 3.73 gears. Which brings up another question, why did you run such high gears for drag racing?

  • @tylerkimble715
    @tylerkimble7153 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful, thank you.

  • @lucasgarza
    @lucasgarza3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you can talk about the wiring of a new fuel pump. Do you use a switch,relay,oil pressure cutoff. I just want to avoid the no no's..

  • @sweenep86

    @sweenep86

    3 жыл бұрын

    Run it through a relay as all motor driven devices pull more amps. Also consider using an inertia switch, you can get one cheap from a Ford Focus.

  • @holoholohaolenokaoi2299
    @holoholohaolenokaoi22992 ай бұрын

    @9:28 will pushing fuel past ruptured diaphragm into the motor happen without the electric assist pump?

  • @peepeesmelly1
    @peepeesmelly1 Жыл бұрын

    What if I'm rubbing 6an from the tank to the pump and from the pump to the carb with no step down in size ??

  • @chaningdodson4245
    @chaningdodson42453 жыл бұрын

    My fuel pump rn is making a metallic ticking sound an it goes faster according to rpms, atleast I think its the fuel pump its on a older chevy block. Is this something that happends offen with pumps?🤨

  • @Jerkwad152

    @Jerkwad152

    3 жыл бұрын

    More likely a pushrod or lifter.

  • @chaningdodson4245

    @chaningdodson4245

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jerkwad152 ok, ill replace it first, then go from there