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@DirtBYA

Жыл бұрын

I've been selected how do I claim what I was selected for?

@matthewrose3525

Жыл бұрын

@DirtBYA I got one too. Thought it was my lucky day. Guess not.

@Petq011

10 ай бұрын

I like how no one notices that Sidney is clearly connected to Los Angeles, and they just skipped the cube there, thus probably making the game "a bit easier". 😅

"I'm working with the disease now!" Fun fact, there's an expansion where one player can play as a bio-terrorist to make the game partially competitive.

@therussianprincess7036

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that, that’s terrifying. I played the storyline version of this board game and even with everyone working together we had to redo every other in game “month” because we kept losing.

@justgoaway123

11 ай бұрын

We need them to play that now

The fact the video is exactly one hour is so satisfying.

@HonorThyTarkus

Жыл бұрын

I clicked extra quick for it

@onyxkrow

Жыл бұрын

Been awfully curious about this game. Can't wait to see this.

@BrockliDawkins

Жыл бұрын

And ominous given Pandemic's tendency to crush dreams.

@ChristopherWalrath

Жыл бұрын

I think 1: 00: 00 was clickbait. It worked.

@alharron2145

Жыл бұрын

It felt like a game of Atmosfear, where they had 1 hour to stop the pandemic

countries working together to stop a pandemic. fantasy games are the best

@TheZotmeister

Жыл бұрын

Incredibly underrated comment.

@yankeedude252

Жыл бұрын

The pandemic in the board game is unlikely to be created in a lab and unleashed for political purposes.

@sub7se7en

Жыл бұрын

I don't get it. Didn't most countries agree on policies and restrictions during covid? That's working together.

@pepperroni6252

Жыл бұрын

​@@sub7se7ennot really they only agreed on measures to stop themselves getting infected, so tightening immigration but not emigration and the rich countries hoarded vaccines while saying everyone must be vaccinated

@VivBrodock

10 ай бұрын

@@sub7se7en bill gates personally interfered in making the mRNA vaccine OpenSource preventing poor nations from being able to produce it and allowing BigPharma to make a killing off the US and selling it to people who needed it in poor countries after already making a profit off it. not exactly what I would call cooperative.

I see Adam has finally worked out how to get more wins on the board, play co-op games

Absolutely fantastic game! One minor rule that I think didn't get touched on is that, as any character besides the medic, you can spend an action to treat all diseases cubes in a city AFTER its disease has been cured. So at 42:30, Sullivan would've removed ALL black cubes in that city instead of one, because the disease was cured. It didn't matter much nonetheless, but that's just a clarification for your future games!

@Disapproving_Welsh_Corgi

Жыл бұрын

1 other rule is that the opening hands can’t have event cards

@Disapproving_Welsh_Corgi

Жыл бұрын

@@HarryBuddhaPalm you are correct. My dyslexic ass read this wrong once and has been playing it wrong ever since 😆

@TheCrimsonSpace

Жыл бұрын

@@Disapproving_Welsh_Corgi That is definitely NOT a rule. Consult step 4 of the setup, which says to remove the Epidemic cards and shuffle the City amd Event cards together before dealing out the starting hands.

@JesusSanchez-yg3uv

Жыл бұрын

And in 33:00 as well right?

@harshilpatel684

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but I thought the game ends once you find all 4 cures and clear the remaining cubes (which then becomes a race against time and involves effective movement of players (the medic) and is when we usually lose, we call this a half win when I play with my mates, and the few times weve played, we always just about get the 4 cures but fall short of clearing all the final cubes.

Based on where the cubes were, yes. They won exactly because Adam choose Ho Chi Min to cure. That’s how close this game was.

@markpolo97

Жыл бұрын

This game is so cleverly designed. It seems like every game you're just right at the line. One wrong card could destroy you.

@yeasstt

Жыл бұрын

@@markpolo97 absolutely. I used to play this game a lot back in 2018/2019. When the difficulty is right, it is genuinely stressful. The game is super fun though, since winning actually feels like an accomplishment

Laurie is in such a weird mood this video I love it

As the year progresses, I would love to see you all play MORE co-op games on BGC. I feel it could be interesting to watch the great dilema: do the players accept a loss in order to force Adam closer to his Monopoly marathon? Or does their pride mean they MUST win and inadvertantly help Adam escape his dark fate?

@Taluien

Жыл бұрын

That could lead to some interesting extortion. I can absolutely see just about anyone... okay, maybe not Tilly... going "Adam, if you do not do [Random Task Whatever], I will tank this game and bring you so much closer to Monopoly."

@sjd83

Жыл бұрын

@@Taluien This plan is insidious and I LOVE it.

@Taluien

Жыл бұрын

@@sjd83 I can already *hear* Laurie in my head going: "Adam, you know, I think you really should do a 'How Adam Would Book... Disco Inferno'...", insert evil laughter here.

Finally, an on location game of Pandemic where chaos will reign once more!!! Also the decision to show the city cards upside down was a choice.

Wow they managed to snag a WATER sponsorship? What a huge moment for the channel 🤩

When doing the outbreak in Sydney at 41:27 they forgot to put a cube in Los Angeles. The cities are connected

@Petq011

10 ай бұрын

Oh, someone has already pointed that out... Obviously. I don't know why I had to point out the same thing 11 months later without checking if someone hadn't already. 😂

I'm absolutely here for Laurie this session. Favorite nrb personality.

Dispatcher, Medic, Scientist, Researcher.. absolutely the optimum team build!

@sintanan469

Жыл бұрын

They got very lucky with the team draw. This is the second edition of the board game, so I don't know if the rules changed... But in the first edition you would shuffle the character deck and deal out a number of characters to equal the players then decide who gets whom.

Looking back, this game kinda got me into board gaming. I remember being blown away by the creativity of playing against the game, everyone having different abilities, and being transported into a different reality by cardboard and wood cubes.

@binnieb173

Жыл бұрын

You should check out 'the captain is dead'.

@MoriMemento117

Жыл бұрын

Same with me!

That 1:00:00 run time though

i love how pandemic always has you on the edge of your seat in the final part of the game, and it's so satisfying to bounce ideas off of each other to try and optimize each turn, one of my favourite games!

One minor mistake I noticed - at 27:10, Adam uses the Beijing card to fly out but is in Seoul (you see he draws the Seoul card after on that phase).

I'm in love with today's weird energy

You know that copy of Twilight Imperium is continuing to sit ominously in the corner... Waiting. Patient. Inevitable.

@Nukie144

Жыл бұрын

The last time my partner played Twilight Imperium, they played for 11 hours and technically didn't finish. I'm picturing the video runtime now....

@plzletmebefrank

Жыл бұрын

@@Nukie144 I've actually finished games in 4-6 hours. To be fair, everyone knew how to play and that's not including setup and packing away.

@Nukie144

Жыл бұрын

@@plzletmebefrank To be fair to my partner and his friends, they had the full eight players and had lunch and dinner at some point during the session. I think I already subtracted setup time but maybe not cleanup time. Plus my partner and another player are both notorious for taking their sweet time planning their moves 😂

@daveautzen9089

Жыл бұрын

That would be a multi-part series of videos.

@plzletmebefrank

Жыл бұрын

@@daveautzen9089 And? Sounds even better to me.

Man... My table must have misread the win condition. We always played that we had to eradicate every disease. Needless to say, we did not win often

@jacobmiller7175

10 ай бұрын

I believe that is the rule. Also I think the cities can still get cubes placed on them, until it is eradicated.

Love the weird post-lunch energy

Just in time! My dose of No Rolls Barred!

I'm in awe on how the editor put the country cards upside down.

Would love to see you guys do the legacy version of this!

@housecaldwell

Жыл бұрын

That would be brilliant!

@angelicdsb

Жыл бұрын

Would have to be a series, would like

@mmwiggersable

Жыл бұрын

Completely agreed. I have the game but no one to play it with and i have so many unopened boxes (got to play twice years ago so saw some things) but i need to know !!!!

@naomil7830

Жыл бұрын

@@mmwiggersable if you enjoy solo gaming (I know not everyone does) it actually makes a great solo game. Legacy games in general tend to be really fun solo gaming experiences.

@helgecko

Жыл бұрын

I doubt they will, to be honest. So much about legacy games are about the discoveries and unfolding stories as you play, so watching others play them kind of means you get “spoilers”. We’re currently playing Pandemic Legacy Season 0 and definitely wouldn’t want to watch someone else playing.

at 41:35 well it also would spread to Los Angeles as you can see the line going off the board will tell you.

At 19:26 they weren't supposed to put any on Beijing because the medic was there thus preventing any infection cubes from being placed there And two less outbrakes

Laurie’s long ass wave got me- this episode is such a vibe already

Loving the vibes in this episode; even more unhinged than usual

Nice win! Especially since you made it harder on yourselves because once a disease is cured when any player treats they're supposed to remove all cubes, not one at a time anymore. And the 1 hour run time on top of it, *chefs kiss*

An all time board game classic, cool to see it live-played. All three of the legacy editions of this series are so good as well, and actually have a quite interesting connected story through them all.

I love how all the graphics for the City Cards are upside down 😂

My three Pandemic Hot Takes: 1. Pandemic is a classic and should have a place in everyone’s collection. 2. If you love Pandemic, you need to play Pandemic Legacy (at least the first one). As a side note, I’d love NRB to do a series where they do a legacy game (either Pandemic or Betrayal). 3. The best version of Pandemic is Pandemic Iberia.

@exodia1510

Жыл бұрын

I've been amongst the Season 0 of Pandemic. Just as touch and go

the editing with the cards and the highlights on the map are beautiful, it adds so much and most people will overlook it.

You know... A part of me hopes that Adam gets to the final week with those 6 wins, convinces everyone to play a co-op game, and on the last turn everyone turns heel on him

I can't help but laugh when Sully starts laughing and he turns red. Keep taping games all !!!

Welcome to Board Game Club where the first rule of Board Game Club is unprecedented.

27:11 when you move both pawns, you move them each 2 spaces. Wouldn’t that mean all 4 actions were used there?

@midifool99

6 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking too.

@averageman7769

Ай бұрын

No, because he can warp the pawns directly to the player at the station, so it’s one move each.

I’ve never felt more connected with Adam than when he made the internet deep cut to the George Washington song.

This is one of the hardest games to win, and the most satisfying when it happens.

LETS PLAY BOARD GAMES

Another few rules mistakes, but a very fun episode! I imagine with all the different games you guys play a few mistakes are inevitable! I wish i got to play this often, my group are onto Clank Legacy Mission 2 tommorow night though, I am very excited to continue....

Adam making a Professor Brothers reference cements my love for him.

One of the best board games of all time!! I always play Pandemic when I visit Draughts, can't wait to see how the NRB family handle this

Apparently I've been playing this hard mode. No wonder I never win. Thought you had to cure AND eradicate

Wooo pandemic. Love me some good ol pandemic board game! One of my favorites along with Betrayal

Amusingly, this was the last board game I played with my extended family before... ... you know.

If you like this game and want a bit more of a challenge, I highly recommend the Legacy version of the game where each play-through affects the *next* play through.

Love the low oxygen vibe of this episode

As a Kiwi I’m personally offended every time New Zealand isn’t on a “world” map

Pandemic is probably my all-time favorite. The expansions are really good, too. As are the other games using the Pandemic system-of which there are MANY. Between my friend and I we have them all.

@GQSmoos

Жыл бұрын

Which expansion do you think I should try if I get one? Love Pandemic, been loving Legacy Season 1, but it’s winding down. I could see myself getting an expansion to play around with before getting Season 0 or Season 2

@MaryinColorado

Жыл бұрын

@@GQSmoos I think it depends on how you've been doing on the original Pandemic. Did you find it getting easier and easier to win? Each expansion has its appeal. Are you looking for a greater challenge to ease into? Are you wanting to really test your mettle? I think On the Brink is good for easing into an expansion. There is an added disease challenge. If you really just want to see how good you are then I think State of Emergency is pretty intense. My friend and I are really into the Pandemic games and with just two players we found we lost almost every single game of State of Emergency. And we had gotten *really* good at the base game. I'd be more than willing to answer any questions you might have about any of the expansions. We also have the Pandemic system games (all from ZMan Games) like Cthulu, World of Warcraft, Rising Tide, Fall of Rome, and Iberia.

This game almost always seems to come down to the very last turn..means it remains exciting.. Good show all

rule goof: you spent beijing to fly from seoul to baghdad.. you spend a card to fly to that city or fly from that city to anywhere else.

Such a close game and exactly an hour long, great job! First time my wife and I played this game, we had one card left and managed to cure the last disease. To make it more tense it was only 2 turns before that when we realised we’d forgotten to focus on the black virus at all 😅

Boy this version of Pandemic looks a lot more fun then the version I just finished playing 😂🤣

41:26 and Los Angeles too! great video btw

Adam now has 11 Board Game Clubs left to get 7 Wins, this is getting close

Please play the On the Brink expansion with the bio-terrorist. Always great when one of you is playing a role to actively screw everyone else over, haha

they practically spent the first 10 minutes of the video giggling at each other like beavis and butthead and i love it

I'm not familiar with the expansion sets, so here is my ranking of the base game characters... 7. Contingency Planner (F tier) - The ability of reusing event cards is extremely beneficial. However, by the nature of the game, this role is completely luck dependent. Far more so than any other character role, in my experience. I have had multiple games where few to none of the event cards were drawn until reaching the last quarter / fifth of the player deck (by which time it was too late to be of any real impact). Essentially meaning that my character had no use (outside of general actions) and no significant way to help the team. In the right game this role can be a benefit. But it's completely down to chance. And it's never as thrilling to win a game of chance as it is to carry out a successful strategy. 6. Quarantine specialist (C tier) - This may be my most controversial choice, but hopefully by presenting this role with a C-tier, you will see that I do not think this role is ineffective. Just that in my opinion, the other roles are more useful. The ability of this role, to prevent infection cubes being added to any city you are in or connected to, is incredibly powerful. And in more than a few games, it has saved my team from being overwhelmed by outbreaks. However, like the contingency planner, this role is quite luck based. If you draw the right infection cards, it can be really effective. But the wrong draw can mean its ability is neutered. This is particularly frustrating in games with multiple hotspots spread across the board. Essentially you have to guess which area to protect and hope the infection draw is kind. Also, if an area is particularly infected, it can be quite paralysing. Meaning your character has to stay still (or return to the same hub city) for multiple turns until the infections are cleared. A very powerful ability, but limited by the nature of the game and when it comes to cube management, there are more powerful roles. 5. Researcher (C tier) - One of the main challenges of the game is swapping coloured city cards, so that you can make sets of these city cards and cure diseases. In order to do so, you need to get two players to a specific city, just to swap a single card. The researchers ability, to give city cards to another player in ANY city, it therefore incredibly useful. The downside is that information can only travel one way (from the researcher to another player), so the usefulness of the role is dependent on which cities the researcher draws. Again, this role is quite luck based (I am seeing a pattern emerging). This puts it in a very similar position to the quarantine specialist, but I put it higher up the list as its ability helps to win the game (curing diseases), rather than just helping with cube management. 4. Operations Expert (B tier) - With the ability to set up research stations, this is one of the roles that can greatly aid fast-travel around the board. As movement around the board is vital, for managing cubes, stopping outbreaks and swapping cards, these fast-travel points can be game changers. However, even with six research stations on the board (the maximum amount allowed), movement can be quite inefficient. It is common to use actions getting to a research station, another action to fast travel, and further actions to get to a relevant city or player. Meaning that you cant remove any infection cubes or swap cards in that same turn. If your team doesn't have a dispatcher, I would say that this is the closest role to an alternative. But it is nowhere near as effective at the job of aiding fast-travel. 3. Scientist (B tier) - This role is a bit of a contradiction for me. The scientist is always useful...but never perfect! Let me explain. The ability of the scientist is to cure a disease with 4 cards, rather than needing 5. This is a very powerful ability, meaning that your team only needs to collect 16 cards (4 cards x 4 cures) rather than 20, in order to win. And in every game I have played with the scientist, this power has allowed them to cure at least 2 of the diseases. Sometimes 3. But never all 4. Luck, once again, dictates the usefulness of this card. As it depends on what you and your teammates draw from the payer deck. However, unlike some of the lower ranks, luck seems to have a lesser effect on this role. As I said, i have never played a game where the scientists ability has not been used. And as the ability is tied directly to the win condition, the scientist is aways a welcome member of the team. 2. Medic (A tier) - Like the quarantine specialist mentioned above, the main role of this character is cube management. However, in my opinion, the medic achieves this far better than the quarantine specialist. The medics abilities are two-fold. One, it can cure all cubes in a city in one action. (Always useful, particularly in heavily infected areas). And two, once a disease is cured, any city the medic visits is automatically treated of all infection cubes, without having to use an action (this is outrageously powerful!). What is great about this role is that it makes eradicating a disease (not just curing, but eradicating) a realistic goal. I have never eradicated a disease without this character on the team. And once a disease is eradicated, it makes the game much easier. Suddenly you do not have to worry about one (or more) of the colours at all. Not about infections or outbreaks or anything. And allowing a team to narrow their focus like that, can completely turn a difficult game around. Throw in the importance of cube management in general (as running out of cubes is one of the lose conditions) and the ability to visit 4 cities and remove all of the cubes present, IN A SINGLE TURN, makes this character a massive asset to any pandemic team. 1. Dispatcher (S tier) - If I got to guarantee that one role would be present on my team, it would be the dispatcher. Like the medic, the dispatchers abilities are two-fold. One, it can move a player's piece as it it were it's own (useful, but used more sparingly). Two, it can move any pawn to a city with another pawn. It's that second ability that it used constantly. One of the hardest aspects of the game is trading cards. As I mentioned earlier you need to get two players to a specific city, before you can swap a single, specific card. With the dispatcher, all you need to do is get ONE player to the right city, and the dispatcher takes care of the rest. It makes movement so efficient. You don't have to trek to the nearest research station and get somewhere near your target destination. You are sent straight there. And the ability is versatile, making it useful in combination with most roles. Is there a heavily infected area...move the medic so they can sort it. Has the scientist got 4 cards...move them to a research centre so they can cure straight away next turn. Has the researcher just drawn a useful card...teleport them across the map so they can trade information to the right player. The only limitation (having to move player to player) is easily minimised by spreading our your characters across the board. Which you are probably doing anyway, trying to manage multiple infections at once. This means that the dispatcher is always useful. Not just every game...pretty much every TURN! This role is so powerful that i believe it's presence alone can effect the outcome of a game. In the introductory game (4 epidemics), if the dispatcher is present...you WILL win! In the standard game (5 epidemics), if the dispatcher is present...you will PROBABLY win. And In the heroic game (6 epidemics), if the dispatcher is NOT present...you will NOT win! While I do not have any data to support this, I honestly believe it to be true. The dispatcher role is just that powerful! I hope you enjoyed my list. Let me know below if you disagree!

When we play our disease cube colours are Yellow fever, Black death, Scarlet fever and...... Blumonia

@techoutsider5631

Жыл бұрын

We do the same thing but with “wet gangrene.” We may be adopting Blumonia now.

What a cool coincidence! The same day this video went out, we had our game night with Pandemic! We won as well (easy mode because it was the first play for most of the group).

hooray! this is one of my favorite board games and I've never won, not once haha great job guys! ❤

It would be nice if this game was played on your channel again soon.

So good! I have never been able to win a game of Pandemic lol

This is is such a stressful game. I almost would try to lose just so Adam does

Best time of the week!

19:10 So Laurie's medic ability didn't stop the epidemic cubes for Beijing. I thought cubes couldn't be placed down on Medics spot.

@undead_pr1est978

Жыл бұрын

@@AceFrahm It was more the Medics ability of cubes couldn't appear on the Medics space when they were there. I didn't know if that ability doesn't work if Epidemic card triggered.

@Keneo1

Жыл бұрын

The outbreak came in the infection phase not the epidimic, which was already handled. so i also think it should not have happend with the medic there

@rurallemas

Жыл бұрын

That part of the ability only comes into play once a cure has been found so they did do it correctly

Love the weird post lunch mood here tbh

"Water! Available now... In lakes. And falling from the sky, sometimes."

Laurie outright carried this and I am here for it. Cheers Laurie! 🎉

Those cubes look delicious

I found this game brand new at a charity shop. I've wanted to play it for a long time. Problem is my friend are mostly in their 80s and kind of set in their ways. We play the same games every, single week. I think I better start with some gateway games before I spring this one them. In the meantime, I play alone . It's still amazing

You forgot LA when Sydney got an outbreak. Happens us all the time when we play :D

I love this game! I’ve never beaten it though ahah. I’ve heard it’s possible to beat though :D

If they had drawn Baghdad as a determining loss I would have laughed so hard since on lauries last turn he could have cleared the city instead of going to the research center, since adam couldve moved him to a player from Baghdad aswell, and essentially thr team plan would've been the same with 1 less bad card

Rippa game. Love it.

That's it, Laurie's new name is Ginger Jesus, that's just what his name is now.

Surprised the noti wasnt 12 hours late, Im here at 2 minutes since it was made public! Ive supported this channel for quite a while now, so Get on Board and help where you can! Its always appreciated and be well assured its worth it!

Board Game Club is pure goals.

I'd like to see them play '51st State' little gem of a game I stumbled upon and my gaming group loved to play.

Me very excited for call of cthulu pt 2, NRB : Nope. Still a brilliant and fun board game and video

Shout out from Atlanta

56:25 The editor making some mistakes there and ignoring Manila

Pov: You’ve go thesis defense May classmates: Best of luck!!! Me: 29:34

Omg the order they are sitting in spells LABS with the first letter of each of their names! That's hilariously topical.

Blair is the human version of the pilots taking the Simpson to Itchy and Scratchy land. Where nothing possibleye go wrong... I mean possibility go wrong, that'd the first thing to go wrong. 😂

Board Game Club 2022 Stats (only YT) Weeks: 41 Games: 63 Laurie: 24-37 Sullivan: 15-46 Adam: 14-47 Brooke: 11-8 Jon: 9-11 Blair: 8-20 Carley: 7-4 Tom: 7-11 Dom: 4-11 Rosie: 4-21 Isaac: 3-7 Teri: 1-1 Izzy: 1-3 Dan: 1-3 TomSka: 1-3 Ken: 1-8 Tilly: 1-13 Isa: 0-1 Holly: 0-3

@happenable

Жыл бұрын

Board Game Club All-time Stats Sessions: 97 Games: 158 Laurie: 55-91 Adam: 48-108 Sully: 34-106 Blair: 29-69 Jon: 27-60 Tom : 26-59 Brooke: 19-21 Isaac: 11-14 Carley: 8-5 Eliot: 8-7 Dom: 7-23 Rosie: 7-38 Maanuv: 3-5 Damo: 2-0 Denise: 2-1 Isa: 2-3 Teri: 1-1 Debra: 1-1 Izzy: 1-3 Dan: 1-3 TomSka: 1-3 Luke: 1-7 Oli: 1-7 Ken: 1-8 Tilly: 1-13 Sean: 0-1 Jay: 0-1 Holly: 0-3 Lucie: 0-5 Pete: 0-6

@greenlimeman1320

Жыл бұрын

@@happenable Damo is currently BGC Undertaker

Never a dull moment to play a game. It's like we spent years in a deadly respiratory pandemic and went into lockdown....oh wait...

Reminds me of when I played this on Xbox and rng royaly screwed me over. I mean, what are the odds, that the 5 epidemic cards are all in the top 15 of the draw deck? 😂

When will we get a live game of Saboteur staring Dom? :)

Plague Inc: The Board Game 1 to 4 players

While watching this I'm realizing how much quarterbacking I do. They keep making decisions I would never make.

Hearing you guys chant Paras, Paras, Paras to the Super Mario Bros. Underworld theme almost gave me whiplash

This doesn't change my hopes for the year. Can't wait for Adam to play Monopoly 🥰🥰

@skyblazeeterno

Жыл бұрын

if Monopoly is actually played correctly without the house rules which people seem to think are ACTUAL rules ( money going into free parking, not being able to buy a property unless you land on it) then it can be quite a good game. I would say that Monopoly is easily the most misunderstood board game in history. But the "adult" version really needs to adopt the "junior" versions end condition where the first player to lose all money triggers the end

7:55 I wish Laurie’s wave just lasted like 3 more seconds 😂

This is the way the world ends, This is the way the world ends, This is the Way the World Ends, Not with a Bang, But with a Whimper.

Adam actually has four weeks to spare, and that's assuming there's no more weeks with multiple games in one episode. Adam could pull this off. He just has to play out of his mind for the next couple months. No pressure.

@johnj2784

Жыл бұрын

With the batch filming they do, chances are Adam already knows his fate. Just all of us waiting to find out now.

They're playing with the best combination of cards but if you're playing with only 3 you can usually drop the researcher or dispatcher

Adam quoting "Washington, Washington" popped me more than it hand any right to.