This video are sick.

@imveryangryitsnotbutter

4 жыл бұрын

🤘

@ZeldaLover6

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@7capsulecorp7

3 жыл бұрын

this series are sick

@danhectic5629

7 күн бұрын

Tim Rogers OWN.

“Just go to Japan and wait 10 years.” Unparalleled advice.

"Turds! What is happening?" is a line my 10 year old self is distraught he was robbed of.

I love how these videos gradually become more "Tim Rogers"-y with each video. Like he was holding back in the first video, or something.

@orangejjay

5 ай бұрын

Had to find that groove. Or, probably was creating several of these from different games all at once and by time he got to the later videos in this series he got more comfortable with his video editing and narrating skills.

that japanese description of aeris' name makes me thing her original name was aerosmith

Chunky Purple Freakwagon is something else

@nfpgamingchannel

4 жыл бұрын

My next band name, for sure

@johnnynorrisjr.39

4 жыл бұрын

@@nfpgamingchannel I would gladly lend my lead guitar/background vox to the Chunky Purple Freakwagon

I'm curious about Aerith's sense of humor that you mentioned kind of got lost. Would love to see you elaborate on any differences in characterization you find.

@idiotette

5 жыл бұрын

Very much same... I'm a year late here, but if notes exist on that any place, I'd love love love to see them.

@alanlee67

4 жыл бұрын

Thekiss play remake. It was not lost in translation this time.

@Cudgeon

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the remake does solve it pretty much. ;)

As an English and Spanish teacher, I can verify that this man would be a bomb-diggity Japanese teacher. Proceed.

Actually I think it was that choosing the "be strong" option scores points with Barret, while the "I don't think I can hold on" option scores points with Tifa. Kinda interesting, when you start wondering why those appeal to either of them according to their perception of Cloud at the time

ROFL *crashes into church through roof* "this is the exact opposite of what I did figuratively when I was a teenager"

@andrewdwilliams

7 жыл бұрын

I don't understand this one. Did he crash out of a church through the floor?

@tchenku

7 жыл бұрын

"Figurative" is the opposite of "literal." Basically, he decisively and emphatically left religion (the church) behind LOL

@andrewdwilliams

6 жыл бұрын

Ahh! Now I understand.

@christinerhei1228

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewdwilliams wouldn't that be nice lmaoooo

Thank you so much for making this series. I'm japanese and I love Aerith since I was a kid. Although Aerith is really popular and likeable character in japan, I was surprised and didn't understand why ppl blaming Aerith so bad and calling her a whoxe or bixtch on the internet after I played Remake, and also some ppl think zack was her ex. I was so shocked by knowing those mistranslations. Your understanding of japanese is wonderful and I appreciate that. I hope more ppl will know the true meanings.

@Supernerd471

2 жыл бұрын

It's less the English translations fault and more the last 2 decades of internet trolls peddling their head cannon narrative as objective fact. If someone wanted to know what FF7 was about they would see the vocal minority screaming CloudxTifa and assume "I guess this is FF7" and it just snowballed from there. Thankfully Remake is here to set the record straight and public opinion of Aerith is on the up swing.

@stopbeingignorant

Жыл бұрын

"and also some ppl think zack was her ex" Are you implying that you think Zack and Aerith weren't dating? Because they were, lmao. This is common knowledge that has nothing to do with the OG's translation issues.

@Maerdy

9 ай бұрын

Zack was Aerith's ex. Crisis Core makes that pretty obvious.

@Haganeren

5 ай бұрын

@@MaerdyThey liked each other, but they weren't "ex" really.

@madelinemcmillan4020

5 ай бұрын

@@Supernerd471 but like they were dating. he wrote home about a girl he was seeing, are we arguing against canon story aspects now.

This series got me to subscribe to the Kotaku KZread channel. You should be real proud.

@Armitaco

7 жыл бұрын

Ling Zhou same here actually. This is literally the only series I'm here for. Also these are getting better and better

@squall9930

7 жыл бұрын

Same, i just saw another KZreadr make a video about this and just had to check it out, fascinating videos

@Deses

7 жыл бұрын

Highligh reel is great. Snaktaku is garbage, tho.

@lingzhou6067

7 жыл бұрын

Highlight reel is good, but didn't get me to subscribe. Because of it's self contained nature, it doesn't really matter if I miss an episode here or there, whereas I definitely want to be here for every one of these.

@Inf1n1ty11

7 жыл бұрын

Same here

The scene in the basement of 7th Heaven is one scene I really hate that they didn't have in the Remake. It was one of my favorite scenes in the original game!

@elb0w

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like barret angrily assaulting his comrades as slapstick wouldn't really work with the tone of his character in the remake 😶

I've been enjoying learning along with these vids and hearing your perspective on the script and how they impact the characterization (the "childhood friend" description was well presented and captures a lot of the challenge of translation). It certainly makes me prepared for unexpected differences when the Remake finally comes out. The section about Aerith and Zack's past clarifies a lot of the confusion as a result of Crisis Core. As an Aerith fan, I was also glad to hear your opinion on her portrayal and easy chemistry with Cloud - I always felt that from the English script but good to know it's reflected in the Japanese script too. I hope you keep going as far as you can with this project!

Did you know that if you chose the “I don’t know if I can hold on” it actually increases your love points with Tifa and if you choose “Be strong” it increases your love points with Barrett

@SimonPiano42

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that's wild. That doesn't make sense to me, haha.

@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649

Жыл бұрын

​@@SimonPiano42 the mechanics who is gonna knock on your door when you are trapped over night at the Gold Saucer are sometimes hidden and sometimes obvious. Depending on your choices either Aeris, Tifa, Barret or Yuffie can knock on your door that night. Although I never got Barret or Yuffie to knock and the one or two times I got Tifa to knock I would go deliberately for Tifa in the answers. There are guides out at the Internet if you are curious.

@SimonPiano42

Жыл бұрын

@@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649 I know about the love point mechanics. I just find it weird that Tifa likes you when you say you're weak and dislikes you when you say "be strong".

@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649

Жыл бұрын

@@SimonPiano42 ah I see, I misunderstood you, sorry for that (:

@harinimarchadi1204

8 ай бұрын

@@SimonPiano42I feel like it makes sense! Tifa likes cloud best when he’s not trying so hard to be tough

I realize I'm very late to this. But the use of osananajimi also seems like it might have been a conscious decision as a way to poke fun at the idea that at this point in the game, Cloud may not, in fact, be able to recall how he knows or met Tifa at all, given the literal amnesiac gaps in his memory.

I'm just going to mosey on through this series again in 2021, don't mind me

As somebody who is studying japanese, I find these interesting and extremely helpful, keep up the good work!

So seeing that "Aerith" looks like "earth" was interesting and makes that a little more viable in my book. But when it came to "Aeris" I always interpreted it as a play on words for "heiress", as in she was a descendant of the ancients/cetra who terraformed/cultivated the planet and was possibly the rightful inherit-er/protector(what have you) of the planet. I dunno maybe I just read too much into that.

@aerithsu

5 жыл бұрын

Eris is greek goddes of strife

@echo7836

4 жыл бұрын

Her name was supposed to be a mixture of Air+Earth, which means her name should be spelled Earith [1] (/ˈɛəɹɪθ/). As a personal preference however, I always found Eairth (/ˈɛɪɹθ/) more fascinating. If you don't know how to read IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet), either search on Wikipedia "IPA vowel chart with audio" and "IPA pulmonic consonant chart with audio", or type "IPA Reader" on a search engine then search for a site whose top-level domain is xyz. Source: [1] Fenlon, Wesley (2012-04-15). "GameSpite Quarterly Interview: Richard Honeywood on The Rise of Square Localization". Wesley Fenlon Blog. Archived from the original on 2016-12-26.

@DutchDread

4 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure it's just a reference to the second part of the Tifereth, the path to balance in the Sefirot, represented in FFVII by Tifa/Aerith. With sure, some "earth" mixed in.

@spudsbuchlaw

2 жыл бұрын

What book is this now?

*"iS tifA yOur GirLfRienD?"*

@incogniftoar3943

3 жыл бұрын

"No" hEeeHeEeee

@ZeldaLover6

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

Such a great and funny video! Parts got me laughing too much. "Chunky Purple Freak Wagon." Also, I loved how you included the deeper nuances to the Japanese words used. It gives the whole dialogue more meaning, imo. It's interesting to see how a lot of the Japanese words got lost in translation. I'll be sure to stay tuned for your next videos. And I'm really thankful you like Aerith, as well. I'll be looking forward to seeing more of how funny and cute her character was in the Japanese version! I also want to applaud you for saying that "the story sets Aerith up as the true love interest option" and how her death gave Cloud "tremendous determination." It's something a lot of us agree with. Please do continue and keep up the awesome work!

@brigidtheirish

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I'm a Cloti shipper through and through (partially because I have a huge soft-spot for the victorious childhood friend), but Aerith is still one of my favorite characters and her contribution to Cloud's motivation should not be minimized. Though I see her contribution as Cloud feeling extreme guilt because he was standing *right there* when she was killed and very nearly killed her himself while also mourning a relationship that might have been. I don't think *Cloud* really knows what his feelings for her were, since he still wasn't himself when she died. Hopefully, after Advent Children, he'll move on and maybe even marry Tifa.

@Heikkopeikko1989

2 жыл бұрын

It was true only because Cloud thought of himself as Zack and Aeris saw Zack in him. The game is going long-con with Tifas and Clouds relationship.

"chunky purple freak wagon" is legendary

6:48 When I was a kid, I didn't know bad could mean "badass". So I misunderstood Barret as saying "don't feel bad just because you were in SOLDIER"

this is brilliant. please don't stop after just FF 7. keep going.

amazing the part Aries discribe about Zack make scence ! please continue

Great work! Can't say it changes how I view any of the relationships, it gave me exact info I had and needed at this point of the game. I'm more interested in future videos, further down the story, where things get often confusing and plot twists get unveiled.

Dude, please please continue this series until the end. I can't even imagine the amount of time it takes you (and you have my respect) but this higly educational. Not just to how sometmes japanese works but because we can finally see what FF7 was reallly all about. I hope you continue!

Just wanted to say that I appreciate your hard work on these! I'll watch every one you make, so please keep making 'em~

I was dreaming for such a through out comparison of the dialogue for such a long time now. Great job. I mean when you give explanations to the actual word and their context in their culture is what drives this whole thing home. Those minor differences painting a much bigger and different picture from what we used to know. Keep on going, subscribed!

man, i really hope you can keep these coming. this is incredible.

Awesome work, as always.

@PierceArner

7 жыл бұрын

High five for the assist on things mentioned at 1:32!!

Chunky Purple Freakwagon is my new band name.

I know there is a scene between Cloud and Aerith in the church that got horribly translated in english and that you didn't show. It's when she's about to jump. In japanese, Cloud says he'll catch her and Aerith tells him to hold her tight (in a nervous "you better" way, in fact, it could be shortened to this). In english, this little bit of interaction is lost and becomes... this : Cloud "All right. I'll hold them off." Aerith "Right. Make sure they don't get through!" So, in english, it's like they're talking about the soldiers... not about Cloud assuring Aerith he'll help her jump safely.The english translation made no sense at times.

@zombiejade898

7 жыл бұрын

RadicalDreamer17 Wow, I had no idea about this bit of interaction. So different! Another, a more humorous section I was wondering about was the "slum drunk" line, and how that might have been in Japanese.

@RadicalDreamer17

7 жыл бұрын

It was actually discovered because Aerith's line was used in a Valentine Day bit of fanservice in the japanese version of Record Keeper (mobile game). Non japanese fans were confused when they learned it was from the jumping moment in the church (because what's romantic about it in english?). Japanese fans apparently explained why this quote was used for the Valentine event. That's how we/I found out about the english translation fail.

@Ferelmakina

6 жыл бұрын

RadicalDreamer17 no big deal, we have crisis core

@RadicalDreamer17

6 жыл бұрын

???????? What about this game ?

Also - it'd be cool to get another Japanese-fluent person or somebody with localization experience on these episodes, so that you can enter into a dialogue and show different perspectives on the tricky business of translation.

9:48 - Her name was supposed to be a mixture of Air + Earth [1] (after all, she has a deep connection with the Planet and "Cloud" has something to do with "Air" #Clerith). While Earith (/ˈɛəɹɪθ/) is closer to the katakana, as a personal preference I always found Eairth (/ˈɛɪɹθ/) more fascinating. If you don't know how to read IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet), either search on Wikipedia "IPA vowel chart with audio" and "IPA pulmonic consonant chart with audio", or type "IPA Reader" on a search engine then search for a site whose top-level domain is xyz. English is such a weird language, not only it has way too many vowels (you and I both agree on this), but also if you hear a word for the first time more often than not you can't spell it correctly and if you see a word for the first time more often than not you can't pronounce it correctly. Source: [1] Fenlon, Wesley (2012-04-15). "GameSpite Quarterly Interview: Richard Honeywood on The Rise of Square Localization". Wesley Fenlon Blog. Archived from the original on 2016-12-26.

I love these deconstructions, you should make this a ongoing series!

I am enthralled by this series. Here's to hoping you do lots more! (And maybe other games too one day?)

I'm loving these. Keep 'em coming.

I was inspired by this series to replay final fantasy 7, but through the fan retranslation mod. I started after episode 1 and finished it a week ago, but I also don't have a job. The translation's ... pretty good, but I find it gets a little literal sometimes. I first played this game when I was about 8 or 9 and I saw the "baby" line. I thought it was referring to marlene for a while. I think it's interesting because those typos and issues slowly disappeared for me on subsequent replays. I figure I was older, and my understanding of context helped smooth them over. Basically I'm trying to say that language is a really cool thing and this video puts that on display.

I always pour through these videos. I love seeing the translation and would love to be able to do what you do.

A chunky purple freakwagon flies out…on the back of a chocobo cart, amirite fellas?

I was searching for "Mosey" on Highwind and got this. Great videos!

The flubbed "little baby" Barrett translation probably survived the editing pass because it sounds like Barrett teasing Cloud about romance.

These videos are so great.

I'd been interested in watching these but rarely watch long youtube series, then I saw your "video games forever" clip and caved. Great work, the jokes you've snuck in there even get my girlfriend (who is 6 feet away and not even really listening) laugh.

His sense of humor is great! "He's using the Japanese drama device of saying something just to say something. You might remember this from metal gear"

Love this series so much

Chunky Purple Freakwagon are my favourite jazz-funk band.

Fantastic work, thank you so much for bringing this into my world.

FFVII predicted minimalist living! #PipeLife

@incogniftoar3943

3 жыл бұрын

Even you could live on a small box these days... (Pointing at you, squidward)

Ah, so original Tifa like to tease too I see (in the remake she also love to tease, but not too on the nose like in this vid for example)

I hope this series never ever ends.

So you're telling me in the original Japanese script Zack was not in fact Aerith's boyfriend but a guy she had her first ever crush on? *Fatality* on all Zerith fans.

I live for this series.

Ooo.... The shipping war has been reignited!

Oh, ever since I was a kid I laways liked the idea of living in a cramped space with only the essentials. Like a hidden base.

Thanks that was really entertaining. Liked the small Cowboy Bebop reference at the end !

Chunky Purple Freak Wagon. lol. If I wasn't a fan before I definitely am now.

This series is freaking fantastic

These are fantastic, keep it up!

Love this series.

dude, i love these videos. please never stop making them. even if it takes you years to get through the whole game. :P i really love ff7, it's my favorite game, but the english version sounds so stiff at times. it's kind of hard to get through the story with all the dumb lines. i can't wait for the remake's updated script.

Minor typo at 2:30: young (おさない) is written 幼い.

These are awesome videos and I can't wait for more, more, more, more (until they become my osananajimi)

Good stuff Tim

These are great! Go go go, more more more.

It's funny how these English terms for Japanese terms have changed the way the simple English term is viewed by people who have some context, an anime fan will get a lot different connotations from the words "childhood friend" than a normal English speaker will...

Damn right I can't wait to find out where the chunky purple freakwagon is going!!!

There's always been the "subs vs. dubbed" debate, but I was always more for subs since they were most often so much closer to the original Japanese meaning. And, if I knew any phrases, I could mildly translate myself. But in dubbed anything (even translated manga in print), so much can get lost or even changed in translation.

This is such a fun an interesting series!

Quite interesting. I will definitely subscribe to this channel because I want to see what you say about the original script in the scene I just got to in my latest play through. It's the flashback scene where you see Cloud and Zack escape from the experiments in the Shinra Mansion and head to Midgar in the back of the old man's truck. There are some lines which at least in the Steam version suggest to me that they were together. I took some screenshots when I saw it, but the line from Zack is basically: (To cloud) "What will you do when we get to Midgar?" "I have a place I can crash" "No wait, the mother lives there too" "Guess that's out" This to me suggests that the "place" he can crash is Aerith's house, then decides not too as her mother (the mother) also lives there. I don't think he's talking about his own mother because firstly, why not mention his father too, and secondly, they live nowhere near Midgar. So with this in mind, I definitely want to see how the script in the original Japanese looks in this scene, and whether it strengthens, or weakens the relationship argument.

@xfairfaeriex

Жыл бұрын

Don't know if you ever got the answer to this question. I saw a comment by the user 'hian' who speaks Japanese and compared the translations of the truck scene on the video "The problem with Zack and Aerith" by Orion85. This person commented several times on the video actually. It's not the pinned comment so you'll have to scroll down to find it - it's in a section discussing their compilation of all of the Aerith and Zack conversations. I copied and pasted their explanation of the truck conversation below: ★Zack convo on truck : ■ This is a real nugget, because it's almost wrong in its entirety. {Zack} “I know what I'm gonna do.” (ore haachikochini ategaarunda) 「俺はあちこちにあてがあるんだ END} ■ "I've got places to stay all over," {Zack} “I got a place I can crash for a while…” (minnano sewa nnatte ......) 「みんなの世話んなって……」 ■ "Got helped out by everyone/tons of people..." {Zack} “No wait, the mother lives there too.” ( a , dono onnanoko mo oya toisshoni sun derunoka ......) 「あ、どの女の子も親といっしょに住んでるのか……」 ■ "Ah, I guess each of the girls still live with their parents..." Zack literally uses the phrase どの女の子も or "ever which girl/no matter which girl", an explicitly plural expression in Japanese. He is not speaking of A particular girl. This is significant because in Japanese there is no demand to stress the singular or plural when it comes to nouns. Whether I have a dog, or 5 dogs in my house, the standard expression in Japanese when inquired about pets would be 私は犬を飼っています。The fact therefore, that the authors chose to have Zack explicitly stress plurality here is therefore clear intent to have it be understood and recognized as him having multiple girls. Also note that the previous statement about places to go also being plural in Japanese rather than singular.

@thfreakinacage

Жыл бұрын

@@xfairfaeriex Hi there. No, I never actually got an answer. Seems the guy never finished the series, and so never got that far in the game. And I didn't come back to the comments and so never saw that conversation either. Huge thanks for providing that to me! That's all really interesting then. Quite a big difference in interpretation for the two different languages. I'll try to find the original comment by that hian person to thank them directly, but again huge thanks to you for copying it up to me so I could see it! :D

This is amazing!This video is suki!

The MPH (memes per hour) of these videos are off the charts

wow I just commented on the 2nd video an hour ago asking when the 3rd installment was coming does this mean I have a new power?

This is so fun! Love it

These are sooo good

Amazing work

10/10

Can't wait for the remake so we can see the differences in translation there too :P

This is actually really good. I dont know if its supposed to be funny but im laughing my ass off. If japanese teachers teach like this maybe I can learn. somehow. Hope to see more.

10:50: You could alternatively compromise by calling her "Aerish". Which is my preferred compromise because it's silly and obviously wrong.

Thanks. These are great.

These videos are awesome

Dialog is super quiet at times.

You could have hust referred to the Japanese manual where they flat out write Aerith or the many other things where they do as it is also explained in the Kaitai Shinsho.

I could watch so much more of this. This guy ARE sick I guess :D

Nice background tune in this episode, at around 1:30. Anyone know what it is?

The chunky purple freakwagon, ahhhhhhh! 🤣🤣 That sounds like a B-list cover band~

In terms of the game's code: If you A) clip through the sector 7 guards into sector 5 early - or - B.) hack her into your party before Sector 5, her name will be AeriTH. It's in the game's code. It changes to Aeris when you name her, and changes her level from 1 to something closer to your party's average.

This series are good.

Amazing!!

You're doing Gods work.

Ok so that left me thinking if Aeris/th name IS some reference to the Earth as she can speaks to the planet and IS of an ancient race and all. A clue for the japanese that neve made into english?

懐かしい。。。

I love this

Good stuff. This episode seems a little quiet though

Whats with the whole "mon" thing Aerith's been using? I've rarely heard it, but I know Jurak ends sentences with that in Dark Cloud/Chronicle...

I really miss Tim Rogers commentary... 😕

For my slightly demented playthrough, I've simply named all my party as Cloud. Which is, I suppose, one way to deal with the whole Aeris/Aerith/Earisu problem.

When is part 4?