NOTE: FX Loops 1 & 2 are fixed at the front of the signal path. They are special since they are 100% analog, fuzz-friendly loops. Loops 3 & 4 can be moved anywhere in the signal path.

@TrumpetsInMy4x12

9 ай бұрын

This is an awesome feature \m/

@TySharron

9 ай бұрын

Great idea!

@alexsdmmx

9 ай бұрын

exactly what I imagined, because of the option to link loop 3 and 4 it seemed to me that they would have the option enabled to go post amp, nice feature

@70mcnevin

9 ай бұрын

I was wondering how it would take drive pedals, it seems they've thought that through! Nice! This Device is a win if Fender continues to support and update it for 5 years until the next model comes out and beyond. That would make Fender a permanent fixture in the modeling world. BTW, if you're listening Fender, add your SuperSonic 22 model to this unit so we can use some Fender gain/distortion instead of relying on other companies models for the "heavy blues/hard rock," sounds!

@ljbanko1

7 ай бұрын

@@70mcnevin The Bassbreaker series delivers serious rock tones and pretty decent cleans as well. Those models are included.

I've watched a lot of reviews of this box on youTube. this is a very good and comprehensive look at it. I get a kick out of the cork sniffers who are nit picking it. It not only sounds great to me, it has a an extremely friendly interface. If you can't do a gig with this, you just can't.

WOW!? Only your demo of this have shown me how much cool thought Fender has put into this great unit!!! Its SO good! The interface is SO easy to understand! Nice thank you!

Hi RJ. Love your channel and your playing is phenomenal. They couldn't have had a better player to show off the unit. My TMP is arriving this morning, just in time for my 63rd birthday! God bless you and all you love.

I've been watching guitar stuff for over 2 years now and this channel finally popped up. Really excellent demoing and guitar playing!

As always a pleasure to watch a gear review here. Good Job RJ

Holy cow!!!! Ron you did an incredible review of this new product I have been hearing so much about and have done an excellent job to introduce this new Fender product!!!

Bro I just wanna say YOU ARE A BAD ASS. Not to mention you are the best to watch explain/demo new products. Hats off to ya my brother.

Two "fuzz friendly" loops and two fully routable loops is what the manual says. "Fuzz friendly" equals, always before effects, analog loop so input impedance of the fuzz pedal is correct for all the roll back volume clean up goodness.

@RJRonquillo

9 ай бұрын

Ahh that makes sense. Sure wish I had the manual. Thanks!

A really good in-depth review and demo of the unit, really appreciate the time & effort. Looks really enticing this unit, a guitar players holy grail.

Thinking of moving from Helix to FTMP, I've watched tons of videos - this one is head and shoulders above the rest. Thank you RJ!!

Man that's too expensive. Maybe they'll do a Squier version of this 🤣

@YesItsReallyKeith

9 ай бұрын

lol !!! QC was higher priced but was told they lowered to match this one !!

@neilkorsgaard

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Give me the Squire TM Pro.😂

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

It already sounds like an entry-level modeler

@mikebromelow8514

2 ай бұрын

@@BrendanMakesMusic You must be joking right? The presets are dialed in perfectly and sound incredible!

@Worklikeyoushouldbe

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm hoping for the Tone Master Amateur...

Awesome review RJ. Very thorough.

I looked at the price and that stopped me in my tracks. But, very well done demo, thanks R.J.

You can really hear the separation on that ping-pong delay even out of MacBook speakers. Well done, my dude!

Great review. Thank you for sharing.

Awesome video RJ. It was fun learning that w ya

Awesome video and production. Thank you for the review

Sounds good. An excellent option for those who don't want to spent 10 years and several tens of thousands of dollars building pedalboard and amp setup

@AkimboVermon

5 ай бұрын

Though you were going to say several years and thousands of dollars researching and developing your own multi effects unit 😂 🤣

No one does JH like you my Man. Love it! I need more of those JH moments.

Thanks for this R.J. All I've done so far was play with the presets, because I'm afraid of messing something up. Your very helpful explanation has given me the confidence to go have some fun doing my own selections.

They better reduce the price quickly, if they want to sell a lot of these. It's not great by any standard and it's way over-priced. I played one yesterday. No better than anything out there and far inferior to many. Sorry, swing and a miss. Great demo on RJ's part as usual. There is still nothing like a great tube amp and pedals. This is one man's opinion of course.

@xlr8r2010

9 ай бұрын

The price is way too high...I agree.

@CerealDust-nStuff

9 ай бұрын

Using my $300 Sony headphones, it sounded fizzy and not in a good way.

@therealtech833

9 ай бұрын

I think the sound quality, particularly the amp modeling is quite good actually. Perhaps his particular demonstration isn't the best representation of this. However I a hundred percent agree with you regarding the price. The unit sounds good, but not in a way where it justifies the price point versus competition. What they've achieved is superior Amp modeling to headrush or helix, but not in a way where results in such a notable difference, where the price is justified. The unit would be a great deal closer to $1,000 price point. If it were to have a bigger brother with a few more foot switches and pedals built-in, perhaps $1600-$1700 would be justified. It's very new, so a lot of things could happen, hopefully the price gets realistic.

@joelanderson6777

9 ай бұрын

​@therealtech833 I am anxiously awaiting Doc McFarlands deep A/B between HR Prime/Core and FTMP... but it's a foregone conclusion that FTMP is at best worth the price of the Core. Fender is counting on its name to sell a Honda at Mercedes prices!

@fadlyhans82

3 ай бұрын

Agree that it’s wayyyy too overpriced.. maybe I’ll wait for a discounted or a demo unit at my guitar centre. If not I’ll just get them HR Core which has a bit more features.

wow man, great video! and great review

That jewel light tho!

Nice Demo, I just noticed this system on Fender website yesterday 3/11/24. I like this set up. Infinite sounds really

thanks for the demo Kind of liked the powered speaker, seemed to sound good and had the right look. Still a little big for a Travato!

I new to his channel. I love it. The reviews are fantastic.

I use Neural DSP plugins through Pro Tools and Focal monitors. Pretty close to this. I am talking about home studio use. I like this unit. It doesn't replace a tube amp, but it is a lot of fun have all the sounds at your fingertips

really good review

AMP CTRL is for amps that have multiple channels, like a Marshall DSL/TSL or a 5150. Neat!

Thanks for a great review/demo. I primarily play through Guitar Rig 7 at the moment and haven't liked the way Native Instruments have moved away from those of us who need/prefer a floorboard form factor/live setup (and generally ignored guitarists full stop). I was looking at the Helix and QC but this review totally adds a third contender and makes for a more complicated decision. The UI looks very impressive and intuitive - and combines the best of other products while adding a lot of flexibility and accessibility. It sounds great too - I was going to ask how it reacted to different guitars and pickups, and then you went right there. :) Lack of a built-in expression pedal - agree, almost everyone is going to need one, and it adds to the significant purchase price too (and having jacks on the sides as well as the back might have been a good move), but this looks very impressive out of the blocks. A significant investment that will hopefully save money (and extra boxes) elsewhere and pay for itself over many years. As for carrying case/gig bag. Whoever spoke about Peli cases below speaks from a good place. Altho if I got one of these I'd be building a custom floorboard/flight case to hold the TM Pro plus pedal(s) and my other offboard stuff. Wondering if you had a chance to look at the MIDI functionality at all? Being able to program the footswitches on this to command external FX/amps/etc would be massive for me, even more if it contained a simple internal sequencer. Looks like I need to download the manual and really check this thing out. Again, thank you!

hey RJ, what are the holes on the bottom for ? can you put this on a stand ?

GREAT REVIEW !!!! GREAT PLAYER !!!!!!

FYI - FX Loops 1 and 2 are always at the beginning of the chain as they are before digital signal path. 3 and 4 can go anywhere.

@RJRonquillo

9 ай бұрын

Good to know thank you!

@sh1137

9 ай бұрын

Loops 1 and 2 are analogue , 3 and 4 are digital. So put your fuzzes in 1 and 2

I love Fender. That said, the modeling sounds comparable to everything else out there. I wasn’t blown away, it’s not bad at all, but it’s not $1699 good. The interface looks pretty cool though, if this was 800 bucks, I’d be more into this, but 1700 isn’t a price I’d pay when I can get a Quad Cortex or kemper with years of bugs worked out and patches. Plus knowing Fenders history of abandoning Fuse software, Im very hesitant to trust Fender will be updating this unit in 3 years. I’m curious to try it, but not buy it.

Great video - Curious as to how the Fender Deluxe model on this sounds compared to the UA Dream?

I love the UI, navigating it and getting tones seems super intuitive. The price seems crazy though, especially considering I think the Fractal sounds noticably better at the same price or much cheaper

I guess this is actually Fender's second try at a floor multifx. Somewhere around 2012 there was the Fender Mustang Floor that apparently didn't catch on. Music Radar has a review that claims it didn't quite keep up with the Zoom G5 (!). I had one at the time that had an annoying top end buzziness that I couldn't get rid of, but then I didn't really understand how to tweak it for optimum sound. The Floor cost $400 at the time (about $540 in 2023 dollars), and today they are available for $150-$200 used.

@greatvanzini

4 ай бұрын

I still have mine. Love it for the cleans, but yeah, there are some high ends buzzies in there.

Good morning Buddy thank you for your amazing videos. i have a question i just got the Fender Master Pro but i also have the Fractal 3 and 9 can you do scenes like on a Fractal FM9 and FM3 ? please let me know Thnx

This was a pretty good look at this product. It sounds great. The three 'cons' you arrived at are completely valid. As for a case--I'm a case guy as opposed to a gig-bag guy--I would suggest looking at a Pelican laptop case. They're not brutally expensive and they are very protective. More, there's enough room in them for cables, etc. and a tracking tag (if you're like me and despise thieves, a tracking tag is essential).

@UTAH100

9 ай бұрын

you clearly don't know good tone. try a fractal, then talk to me. learn son.

The Tone Master tones are so superior it’s shocking. I hope someone will compare the Fractals to it as nothing else even comes close. Fender would likely do great business selling a reduced IO, smaller unit for half the price once they’ve seen sales on this beauty pick up. An amazing piece of engineering.

I’d be interested in seeing how your cable setup was going into your computer?

I like how you could set it on a stand and just touch it if you wanted for destop use. I also like the loops. Plus it models my amp. EVH 5150III EL34 50.

Way 2 go Brother! U Did a great job without a Manual!! Not sure why that would have happened but someone should get a Time-out!?? GREAT RJ Ronquillio You Rocked it Brother 🤘🎸🤠

Excellent review and demonstration- your guitar playing is also fantastic! With a unit like this, I'm not sure why anyone would really need any external effects. It seems like the TMP has everything you could ever want. Your suggestion of an onboard expression pedal is a good one. Sometimes the marketing folks have discussions of what add-on sales could be made. In this case you see the suggestion of the expression pedal add-on on every web site that sells the TMP.

Hi, which recording interface you use for stereo connection?

Gday RJ. Fantastic review. Could you or someone else tell me how I would power this AC unit remotely in the street? I am a busker. Cheers.

Can the fender TMP control valve amp channels like changing from clean rhythm channel to high gain lead channel?

Would like to see how to save a preset I've adjusted.

I really appreciate your doing the review. I'm very impressed by the sound quality of the amp models and effects. I'm not as big a fan of the profiling amps as increasing esp for better amp modeling. This results in a much more authentic representation of an amp, not just on one capture, but adjusting tone controls on guitar or on the unit itself still sounds like you're using the actual amp. This is a fault when using a capture algorithm, which is more of a snapshot in time. Perhaps if you only play one specific genre music, with a very limited sound base, then capture may be perfect for you.

You can move loops 3&4. Loops 1&2 are analog. The manual is now online.

Are you using studio monitors for this video?

Great honest review , I like it but it would have been nice if Fender included an expression pedal but definitely a carrying case should be there for the price, those little things matter

I have been using it for a week its great but I feel it needs a digital out aswell as a 2 microphone option with panning on each speaker cab .

Looks, cool, but just checked the price on Sweetwater. Priced out of my league for an effects unit.

@elevenAD

9 ай бұрын

Its not an effects unit.

I'm curious how the pedal into the FRFR would sound side by side with the tone master deluxe, and how much they weigh compared to a TM deluxe.

I'm not sure if I mentioned this the other day, but loops 3&4 can be moved anywhere. Loops 1&2 are fixed at the beginning of the chain.

How do you think the sound compares to others?

At 10:14, I heard that of guitar straight into a 50 watt amplifier; fenderish. I'm not moved. It won't make me go out and buy a unit right away, and it's probably a damn good device, but the demonstration doesn't jump right out at my ears within 5 minutes. But that's just me.

can loops be stored and imported and exported?

Great job job on the Demo!

Did you happen to do any post processing cleanup of the audio for this video? There was a minute in there where I could hear the quintessential single coil buzz noise (around 13:45), but mostly it's not audible in the rest of the clip. Or is there a noise gate we're not seeing in the signal chain? I'm wondering if it's actually a lot noisier in real life, as has been the case with other products from other YT reviewers. Thanks! pretty cool interface

@artnelsoncreative

2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing-the noise from the single coil guitar was too loud.

Hey folks. Wondering if anyone tried recording with the new Fender amp modeller, the Tone Master pro with just the USB-C Would the line out of USB C directly into your workstation work? If yes, would that be able to preserve any stereo effects/setup?

Thanks RJ. I love your demos. I am not convinced by this product. You are amazing! nothing to do with you ever my friend. I just don't feel this unit justifies the price for the functions it includes. Too much stuff to work with. The Mustang Micro Amp, does the job fine and / or the iRig2 new version too for under $200 bux

hello, I am a new subscriber. ❤

Anyone knows what song is he playing ? 19:30 It sounds so familiar but i couldn't find it.

Was I hearing amp noise in the background when the pedal was switch on?

Fender tone master is a win.

Thank you RJ, great review and this looks like a great unit. I disagree with the expression pedal con because I like to have the board on the right side of my mic stand with my wah over on the left side. I favour my left foot so more comfortable with the pedal separate to the board and not attached. Thanks again.

This is awesome!

I jumped on. Looking forward to trying I bought the unit for effects loops 2 x stereo Bit disappointed about the effects loop not moving I don’t understand why you would just not put fuzz before the tone master pro. And have 2 movable stereo loops. I use a drum machine or beat buddy and am always having to look for creative ways to insert them. I also hope fender resolve this in some way. I think most people used to integrating modellers into there analogue setup …will plug there real world gain boards in the front end . Effectively making 2 loops redundant for anything other than external modulation. ?! Hopefully fender have the means to adjust this or I might be sticking with my QC WHICH also can’t do 2 loops but takes pedals really well .. proven.

@davidgriffith3938

9 ай бұрын

Putting the fuz before the unit means you have to control it separately. With the loops, your can bring it in and out with your preset changes. It would be nice if you could configure them to be movable OR to be analog at the beginning .

Feels like everyone got send one but me 😂😂😂

How different are these algorithms from a Mustang? Are they the same code or is this all original component level modeling?

@joelanderson6777

9 ай бұрын

It's closer to Mustang DSP than Tonemaster DSP. But to be fair, Shane at Intheblues has been fooling people with blind A/B between even the original Mustangs and the real amp he is modeling for a very long time! It's a shame Fender just abandoned Fender FUSE and the Mustang Floor modeler!

At this point it becomes personal preference. I have a QC and an FM3. Both a great! The problem with the Fender Tone Master is it really doesn't bring anything new to the table. That along with the price are big negatives for me.

@joesatchton212

9 ай бұрын

Can't really disagree overall. But to me, from what I've seen, this thing appears to have taken the crown in terms of current best in class, deeply intuitive GUI navigation. Ola's vid was similar to RJ - no manual, nothing yet both guys were able to dig pretty deeply without much confusion. Truly effective, intuitive GUI design is an art form and I do think this one is the current apex, while sacrificing zero deep dive ability.

@BkBk-gy6vr

9 ай бұрын

Agree nothing new, tone doesn't beat FM3, Helix or the Cortex. They are a little late to the party.

@YesItsReallyKeith

9 ай бұрын

8 cores !! a little more power i think than the QC ? I think it's nice out of the gate.... so now it's a question of will they compete on the continuous improvements like the rest who always offer free updates?

@ironblast5

9 ай бұрын

The ui and form factor are its bigest selling points the fixed signal routing (like the headrush) high pricepoint and aliasing are its weekest points so far

@BkBk-gy6vr

9 ай бұрын

@@YesItsReallyKeith 8 cores 15 cores it doesn't matter it doesn't sound any better than what's already out there.

They've had the modeling floor pedal with the Mustang Floor for a long time already; and the Mustang Floor is awesome! Unfortunately, at this price, there are much better options, I'm afraid!

OMG. Fender!😂. It’s awesome

Good discovery on not yet being able to alter placing the effects loop in the chain. Update for sure

This looks and sounds very good. I bought the BOSS GT8 back in the day. Talk about crazy complicated, for me anyway. The Digitech RP series was the ticket for me. Pretty good sound and user friendly. Oh yeah, can't forget the original Line 6 Pod kidney bean. That was cool.

@mrblues1981

9 ай бұрын

price is same as quad cortex and kemper , i think its way too expensive , i bought my quad cortex 7 months a go for 1.300£

3:20 into the video I knew this was something I'll never use. Thanks for the heads up!

From a modeller user - how is it different to other modellers. I.e. why should I sell my Helix? It sounds good (and amazing playing), but, it doesn’t really stand out in a very crowded market.

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

It’s not different except for the audible digital artifacts. This is a beta product being sold at a premium price. If you’re going to be more expensive than a Fractal, you better justify it, and from that perspective this thing is just sad

@MintyBitesBack

9 ай бұрын

@@BrendanMakesMusic It's a shame that no company is really taking things to the next level really. E.g. they could start to integrate units much more effectively with in ears for a live mix and give the user some more control. They could have a unit that can be a modeler as well as a taking snapshots... (although Kemper seemed to have moved that way)... Just same old stuff with more power that I don't think it necessarily needs.

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

@@MintyBitesBack I build a board around my FM3, I’ve got an xvive IEM transmitter always plugged into the second output, works great. I think building too much stuff into a modeling unit risks things not being compatible or getting outdated. My FM3 will produce the same great sound until the board fries. I’d be really hesitant to ask my modeling unit to do anything other than modeling exceptionally well

@MintyBitesBack

9 ай бұрын

@@BrendanMakesMusic but unless musicians start demanding more, you are just stuck with 10 different versions of the same thing. Which is where we are now...

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

@@MintyBitesBack I generally agree, though my personal take is that the modeling field is in a really great space; using modeling full-time is kind of like being an EV owner: Some people early adopted 10 years ago, there are really great options out there, and it's obviously the future, but the field is mature enough that any new entrants really need to bring their A-game.

would be nice if for price included an ext expression pedal

That price is truly wild. Curious who actually developed the unit.

@stinkwhistle756

9 ай бұрын

exactly what people said what The QC came out lol. Give it time

@JStillwell-wm3ln

9 ай бұрын

The Fender R&D team in Scottsdale AZ developed all of the hardware and software, including the model algorithms.

sounds pretty flammin awesome.

Fender had a great mustang floor processor. A real classic.

@joelanderson6777

9 ай бұрын

And they abandoned it after one year!

@ericajohnson7535

9 ай бұрын

@@joelanderson6777 still, from the sound demos I've heard, it was a great little unit! very organic sounding.

@dewdude2112

8 ай бұрын

I had one and for some reason I get never get it to sound as good as Mustang III.

@joelanderson6777

8 ай бұрын

@ericajohnson7535 it was a good unit! But Fender didn't support it, so I'm sure not spending $1700 on a new one from them!

Maybe I've been spoiled by my Axe FX. But that AC30 model Edge preset sounds terrible. The shimmer and mod delay is also extremely digital sounding.

You sure make it SOUND GREAT! You do that with everything though😁

Somewhere Pete Cornish is crying - and Hendrix wants to come back for our time! LOL

Pretty cool that Lime 6 Helix has been able to all this an more for years. If helix had the touch screen, that would be great.

@lorenmorgan1931

9 ай бұрын

I'm not so sure the amp models sound half as good as what this sounds though. The Fender Tonemaster amps literally sound and feel like real tube amps, and in some cases better, simply because the parts don't degrade. This I'm sure is using the exact same technology, and to my ears what I hear from this demo is amps that really, truly sound like their real life counterparts.

@Patrick-857

4 күн бұрын

It's got more powerful hardware than anything on the market, but it needs more updates to get it anywhere near the capabilities of more mature platforms. The IO, the user interface, and everything else about the hardware is almost perfect. Hopefully Fender don't abandon it.

interesting i am intrigued to the point of really dialing in patches for different songs, especially being in a cover band you can customize if you clever enough your entire play list for each song! but what if ya get a request or you change or alter that playlist and ya have to be quick to the draw? I wonder on stage how fast you dial in that preferred patch or rig? I would think I would be performing with my mind to much to the floorboard stuff? I also think this has way too much of everything? I mean, how many delays do you really use a night ? Or any drive pedals or whatever? You can come prepared for that show but for me it seems Id be in a pickle if something comes up on the fly and ya need a basic set up and quickly? DO you remember which patch or bank its on ? or do you say wait a minute I have to figure out that sound I need? So my point is as much fun and cool this unit may be - I could see me navigating back to my to basic coolest pedals I have and using what I have to create and easily at that? Less is sometimes more. I think this things sounds great but yet it still is a pedal board too, and i already have that covered, and I can see its advantages which I wish i can employ this unit live- but out on the road or playing wherever your still at the mercy of the sound eng. and the FOH gear at hand. How will this thing sound going thru a not so good sound system? I' am grateful i could follow along and ya made me understand how to use this. But I think the unit itself is just way too much and redundant? I don't know? I may get a lot of response schooling me on this comment and the units functionality -but whatever.

@kevone-eo6pq

5 ай бұрын

jeez have you got anymore questions?

@RADLADRICK

5 ай бұрын

my deepest and humble apology. i must of been having hi anxiety at the moment? i do suffer from it greatly.Reading my comment i guess i did ask a lot of questions., but no reply's ? I was hoping for some answers but i will look elsewhere. @@kevone-eo6pq

Honestly Strymon needs to make an all in one.

@AlfredHugecokk

9 ай бұрын

For 4000$ !

@joshuadillon4396

9 ай бұрын

Probably true. Strymon makes so much even for cloud pedal that does one thing.

Had one for 5 weeks !! Went back way behind helix neural and Light years behind fractal !! Bit like a Mooer !

This seems most comparable to the Headrush Core. But $700 more than the headrush, and no cloning, voice, fewer amps, cabs, effects, etc. It’s nice though, but shoulda come in around $1000 to compete. Look at half the comments- people think it’s too expensive for what it is. I’m interested, but would probably prefer another unit for the same money.

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

It’s not just that it’s too expensive: There’s no guarantee that this is a long-term investment. A Fractal unit will continue to be supported with software updates and new profiles for 5-6 years at a minimum. If this doesn’t sell like hot cakes, they might abandon the whole thing before they ever get around to fixing the digital artifacts you can hear.

@antonego8356

9 ай бұрын

@@BrendanMakesMusic good point.

Well. 5th vid i see on that. Interface seems really good. Applause. I hear a certain palasticky spongy harshness familiar from bos gt1000 and pre. Hx stomp got me back from the camp of modelling phobes after my brand new line6 axys crashed and blarred digital screeching mess into the pa for 15 seconds til i coul pull the plug. Neural dsp, uafx ruby, really won me. No more constant tweaking. Hx stomp just does amazing modulation and delays… sorry fender, 1700? Serious? Nope. Not convinced. Looking for that tonemaster vs helix amp modelling shootout vid. Dry. Cmon yt.

MISSING: His early version without the update is missing the eight-button looper. It's activated by holding down the FS MODE button. That's a rather huge additional feature.

It sounds pretty good

So far, TheGuitarGeek is only reviewer that tests a British Amp setup and it was not convincing. Early days... hopefully that will be sorted for us Marshall tone fans.

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

Don’t compromise, just buy a Fractal or Line6, they’re proven

1700? It didn't sound 1700 to my ears. Especially that Vox tone. Thanks for your effort here, though. Your playing is always a treat.

Pretty damn impressive.

Too mutch expensive! Crazy money! For mutch less money, BOSS GT-1000 does it all, and in some cases even more! Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹

Did he not include sound quality in the pros list?

@BrendanMakesMusic

9 ай бұрын

Listen with high quality headphones; the sound is not a pro