It's still pisses me off that the wife got immunity even though she knew what was going on or participated in those horrible acts.

@ambroulard

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed,,, very likely also destroyed evidence-

@amyschildgamerlive4519

2 жыл бұрын

@@ambroulard I mean she did immediately get spooked when they found evidence despite her "cleaning"

@ephar133

2 жыл бұрын

I'm agree why she refused the key

@comicbooks9249

2 жыл бұрын

Woman always have it easy in this criminal justice system. Patriarchy SMH...

@chelsey4188

2 жыл бұрын

They had enough physical evidence! Why would they bargain with her ? Prosecutor not competent enough

That's REALLY SICK. I mean, migrating to a country, then becoming part of a rape and murder spree, then hiding in another country, then studying loopholes in the law to manipulate it and use it to your own advantage, then after getting arrested, you once again use loopholes in the law to manipulate it and use it to your own advantage to keep delaying the trial.

@janetrawlings1691

2 жыл бұрын

Not so dumb 😳🤔

@unmermaid

2 жыл бұрын

@@janetrawlings1691 it's easy to get away with crimes when the law is THIS incompetent and stupid

@makkahcadey

2 жыл бұрын

That just shows how weak the justice system is! If criminals had severe penalties- only a few would do crime.

@g0dseye80

2 жыл бұрын

That what happens with life long crims.

@Moodboard39

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to USA democrat

Serial killer evades state police, FBI, RCMP and gets stopped by a mall security guard. That's incredible!

@whensomethingcriesagain

Жыл бұрын

Ted Bundy got caught by a traffic cop. Three times. Funny how arrests like this can come from the most easily overlooked sources

@wagnerp1213

17 күн бұрын

Stop this right now 😅😅

Kudos to the police officers who arrested Leonard for the stolen vice and impounded the car. Without that this may never have happened.

The wife and mother pissed me off. They should have charged them with obstruction and more. They told them not to go to the cabin and she goes anyways! She "cleans up" oh yes the ridding of evidence. Our justice system is far from perfect that's for sure.

@ritaranee4787

2 жыл бұрын

Illuminati justice

@bethanybuller8145

2 жыл бұрын

If it were a warrant search instead of voluntary then they probably would’ve prosecuted. Still sucks

@emanq23

2 жыл бұрын

I thought right when she requested immunity that she was guilty as heck, crazy story stuff like this is why I always lock my doors and windows even though I live in the country

@Devi_Seona

2 жыл бұрын

Yes how horrible these two women helped this sick pervert abuse and kill young women for over 20 years… how can someone do that, and at the end he was dead they could have just let police helps the victims families, but nope they went to clean up and refused to help, how sick.

@scrolex

2 жыл бұрын

Can you legally stop somebody from going to their property without even having a warrant?

These true crime shows with reenactments are so much more compelling to watch than just KZread videos of people in front of a camera telling the story.

Charles Ng hid out blocks away from where I grew up as a kid in Calgary. I was apparently still in my mothers womb when she would take walks with my two older sisters down in the park where they found his little "camp-out" She got chills, and decided to go back because she had a bad feeling. Mother instincts. Later on he got busted downtown...

@Dee-JayW

2 жыл бұрын

Im in Red Deer and remember this very well, it was National news that this psycho was in Canada on the run. Scary times.

@lovecats6856

2 жыл бұрын

I was in the Hudson Bay and saw it when they got him.

@johnmcallister5382

2 жыл бұрын

Èeeèweee

@sneakysasquatch6014

5 ай бұрын

Canada is complicit as well because they didn’t want to extradite him because of the death penalty and they thought a can of stolen smoked salmon was more important than justice

@crookedfingersgirl7356

3 ай бұрын

@ love cats 😱 did you know like, who he was?that's bananas!!! It's good they got that thing.

The monsters say "I love you" to their family, and talk about emotion, but then turn around and had r8 and tortured all these people and killed them. It goes to show man many people say "love" or "freedom" and have no idea what they mean and have no respect for the words.

My cousin's roommate was murdered by this pair. They supposedly gave him a job, and he was never heard from again. Also, at the time, I was living in the Sierras right over the mountain from where this all took place. So creepy and so sad.

@charlesdowns1691

2 жыл бұрын

thats terrible. pure devils.

@spacecowgurl57

2 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine. ❤

@HoneyQuint

2 жыл бұрын

Txts like this are attention seeking

@AliceA333

2 жыл бұрын

@@HoneyQuint Not really, people post it because others find it interesting. If you don't, you could always try to be polite & keep it to yourself. Just an idea.

@joenugent1306

2 жыл бұрын

@@HoneyQuint no it is not!! Yours is!!

The best thing this guy could've done was to take the stand . Love it when criminals think they can explain anything and people will believe them.

@rpmcmurphey927

2 жыл бұрын

He knew damn well that he would never get off- he was simply wasting time and money on purpose, from day one.

@barbaradavis8686

2 жыл бұрын

It makes me mad to and they knock charges off to make a deal

@HDsharp

2 жыл бұрын

@@rpmcmurphey927 they only had circumstantial evidence, thats it! Nothing to connect him to the fantasy world the other guy created.

@Cruisey

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the video of Ronnie O'Neal attempting to represent himself if you haven't already. Absolute dumpster fire. 😂

@timtags

2 жыл бұрын

Like Anthony Todt. Watch him take the stand on KZread. He comes off so unlikable and cocky.

Leonard's wife knew about the murderers at the very least and my gut feeling tells me that she may have participated in the murders. She was cleaning up evidence when she was clearly instructed not to, what more do you need. Her daughter is also complicit in atleast the cover up and tampering with evidence.

@crookedfingersgirl7356

3 ай бұрын

Shes IN their videos... And she's roaming free.

@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341

3 ай бұрын

@@crookedfingersgirl7356 Justice system...... More like injustice system. Spitting in face of victims is considered justice by these corrupt people.

*One thing that almost we all can agree on is that Leonard's ex-wife, Claralyn was definitely not innocent. She must have had a part (or atleast knowledge) in the torture & murder of the victims.*

@nabi-kurokawa

2 жыл бұрын

u

@TheNameless0n3

2 жыл бұрын

@FIND HIM it's not about her to be witness , she need to be in the prison

@nabi-kurokawa

2 жыл бұрын

@Get w/the New Age i didn’t mean to comment 😭😭

@pigparade2122

2 жыл бұрын

I can also get the money

@larajones175

2 жыл бұрын

Sad if she did She's a murderer just the same. Tge BTK killer was a pillar of the community. His wife had no knowledge. Somehow I think this one did . Its disgusting.

It's scary to think people like this are out there right now looking to destroy lives.

@colleen3107

2 жыл бұрын

What is worse is that many of those they killed are referred to as being “friends”. To have such a monster as a friend and not know it.

@one1onetime935

2 жыл бұрын

🤔🤐

@infinnagoat3454

2 жыл бұрын

also watching this doc and commenting at the same time

@mariamab.8126

2 жыл бұрын

Purewonka@ indeed!

@sidneyh11

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariamab.8126 me too xx

My husbands cousin was one of their victims. His uncle had to watch hundreds of hours worth of tapes to try and find his sons face. They were never the same after this.

@waynevanrensburg8037

2 жыл бұрын

Terrible 😢

@silentvoiceinthedark5665

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody should have to go through that. So heartbreaking

@jomama5186

2 жыл бұрын

So sorry for your family's loss. What a terrible thing.🙏❤

@patricatfurever4051

2 жыл бұрын

God bless the victim’s families

@jmartin4204

2 жыл бұрын

that haunts you for the rest of your life

Kudos to the actors and members of the creative teams on the re-enactments. Quite well done and they really help tell the story.

@bt2133

2 жыл бұрын

Lol dude I thought it was the actual case being filmed. Congrats to all the actors. Could’ve fooled me

@lennybunkley7380

2 жыл бұрын

U

@magdalenamezydlo6150

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!

@HumanDrillBit

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%! Superior acting by all! 😎👍

@the-finn

2 жыл бұрын

That was actual real court room footage.

I think it’s poetic justice for Ng to have Tanaka as a prosecutor lawyer who is a fierce and intelligent woman to question him and reveal the exact truth about Ng as a co-serial killer to the jury.

Dude murdered those men, women, and babies BEFORE I was born and he is still sitting in prison waiting for execution. The babies he murdered would have been older than me. I am in 30s with a child of my own now. My entire life has taken place in the amount of time he been allowed to avoid his sentence being carried out.

@deborahsanderson697

2 жыл бұрын

🤬🤬🤬🤬 heartbreaking

@rdred8693

2 жыл бұрын

You should read Ng's prison "bio". He says he loves animals, and the environment, blah, blah. I seriously doubt it. Frightening men, I remember when this happened!

@MsSweetlove90

Жыл бұрын

That's California for you.

@blacknight2149

10 ай бұрын

You can thank Gavin Newsome for that. He’s a psychopath who has destroyed California and will continue to destroy this country when he runs for president.

@donkeyhanger

Ай бұрын

Ng be needing the E chair .he,s Burning

There's absolutely no way Leonard's ex wife, Claralyn Balazs wasn't part of this whole thing. She was weird from the very beginning.

@kandykane5147

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@Prince-jb7pv

2 жыл бұрын

being weird isn't a crime though

@phyllisyovone8961

2 жыл бұрын

@@Prince-jb7pv Right! and she is still out there roaming!

@eddiesroom1868

2 жыл бұрын

@@phyllisyovone8961 IDK killers keep secrets sometimes...

@eddiesroom1868

2 жыл бұрын

@@Prince-jb7pv I'm not in jail and I'm pretty weird.

Hanaka was incredible. Her voice is powerful! Ng is a disgusting creature for toying with the system so much. I think the judge is crazy for letting him fire his attorneys so many times!

I find it unbelievably offensive that baby-killing monsters like this have a loving wife and mother all in the know. And that they even are granted immunity.

@brittneyhagan-busbin6555

2 жыл бұрын

That truly pissed me off smh there's no way they should've gotten immunity

@faggianogeuiseppi5135

2 жыл бұрын

And us regular dudes can’t get a second look lol

@TheMartyandy

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is, often without those witness testimonies, it's difficult, sometimes impossible to charge or convict. "Regular dudes" can't get a second look because the majority of regular dudes who get arrested don't hold information that could incriminate someone for a much more severe crime. It's like granting immunity to a car thief because he was the only witness to a murder while he was stealing a car - He likely wouldn't testify otherwise, since it would incriminate him, meaning the murderer could get away.

@forpetessake3532

2 жыл бұрын

only because without them, they had a mountain to climb to PROVE guilt without a shadow of a doubt. SO, better to get HIM if that's the ONLY WAY . Better than all getting off ! horrific as that is

@sarahvand3628

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy :(

I've always wondered why Lakes ex wife wanted immunity before she would talk to the cops? Cuz she said she didn't know about the murders..so WTF did she need immunity from??

@3shellyiam

2 жыл бұрын

Helping a fugitive is a crime. She was also aware of other crimes they had committed.

@jimwerther

2 жыл бұрын

@Jennifer Brown Is that a serious question? Would you talk to the cops under that circumstance without immunity?

@tejasvatisingh4603

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure she knew abt them, in one of the few second long clippings available of the tapes, she says something along the lines of - ' I've seen some 13-15 yr olds and i won't mind watching them doing certain things'. She creeps me out, and the fact that she wasn't punished is really frustrating.

@treaty8631

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly correct...she knew everything

@treaty8631

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly correct...she knew everything

I think this is one of the most terrifying stories I’ve ever seen involving serial killers.

The most frightening thing is..Serial killers are the everyday people we interact and they hide in plain sight hence committing the killings without being noticed

I admire the family members that pushed through this trial. Especially the ones testifying. This is insanity.

The immunity granted to the wife almost falls into the category of negligence. They got almost no useful information from her and yet it is almost impossible to rule out her knowledge and or participation in the crimes.

@jimwerther

2 жыл бұрын

Hindsight is 20/20. The priority at that moment was nailing down the two killers.

@borahjones9018

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't sound like they had anything approaching evidence against her, either. It was a gamble that didn't pay off.

@g0dseye80

2 жыл бұрын

there is also no proof she knew. u cant put her in jail because u think she did.

@TurkeyCreekGal

2 жыл бұрын

@@g0dseye80 she knew, or she wouldn't have went to the cabin and took his mom with her, the night before to "tidy up", and she would've let the detectives in the cinder block out building that morning without a search warrant! Plus she wouldn't have ask for immunity before she was questioned. Also IMO his mom knew too, or she wouldn't have went in the middle of the night, with his ex to "tidy up", which actually means get rid of the damming evidence that would have tied the ex and possibly his mom, to the case! I'm not saying his Mom was involved in killing, kidnapping and torturing any of these people, I'm saying she knew! Which IMO she could have saved lives by going to the law before at least 12 people and BABY'S had been KIDNAPPED, TORTURED, and MURDERED, then thrown away or burned like garbage for nobody ever to find!! 😭

@g0dseye80

2 жыл бұрын

@@TurkeyCreekGal ya i made that comment b4 i watched it. 🙄🙄

Two of the most terrifying serial killers I have ever heard of

@lovelife7278

2 жыл бұрын

I think thier worst then them trust lol

@caleclayton1987

2 жыл бұрын

@@lovelife7278 I don't not when it comes to the way men, women and children was brutally tortured by them both in that creepy cabin

@cedrics5241

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I've seen a lot of these serial killer documentaries and this has always stuck in my mind as one of the worst I have seen. Sexual sadists are the most twisted, evil bastards...

@amyschildgamerlive4519

2 жыл бұрын

2?... you don't believe the wife was in on it?

@caleclayton1987

2 жыл бұрын

@@amyschildgamerlive4519 yes I do definitely

And to add to the already chilling story, "calaveras" literally translates to "skulls" in Spanish. So this all took place in "Skulls" County, California

“I determined, through my training, that it was a silencer.” Officer Einstein

@AWM8841

2 жыл бұрын

I know I couldn’t stop thinking about too

@harrydobell9629

2 жыл бұрын

haha yes must have been some pretty difficult training for him to figure that out

@kathryntipton1494

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrydobell9629 hu Jun b😮😮😮😮😅😅 😊😊 kilo😮😮❤❤

@buckmelanoma2200

2 жыл бұрын

Officer "Einstein" was employed for less than one year in 1985. He was also explaining, during a documentary, for those who wouldn't know. He also broke this case wide open by a simple theft investigation.

@dwigg7700

2 жыл бұрын

@@buckmelanoma2200 you got some on the corner of your mouth. Did you know?

I have heard the story of Leanord Lake and Charles Ing many times but I have never seen it with reenactments so detailed that they found the same model and make of car, vise, gun case and gun, actors that look like the people involved. This is really good.

@drewhempwood2113

2 жыл бұрын

Well there's real video available , clips of the videos Leonard taped of the victims

@joeottsoulbikes415

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewhempwood2113 I don't think I would be able to bring myself to watch those videos knowing the real people in the videos had died at the hands of those two. It would not be an entire complete snuff film but close enough that I wouldn't be able to do it.

@drewhempwood2113

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeottsoulbikes415 oh it is awful. I don't recommend it. It's probably definitely traumatized me man lol I have a soft heart. But all of this does. Her asking for her baby will forever haunt me her exact voice.

@joeottsoulbikes415

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely see your point and actually agree. Watching any portion even just a second of the real videos I couldn't do it couldn't I couldn't do it not knowing that the people in them actually died. The film since it's just a reenactment of what happened it's kind of a different thing even the sections of film that they shows not the real film it's simply reenactments. I guess the point in doing a reenactment of the film's The Killers took is to show the public just a potential of how horrible those men were. Anytime I watch any of these true crime documentary shows it's hard for me to comprehend even an inkling of what it takes for mine to be so warped to do those things to another human. You would have to be extremely desensitized to the things around you in the world. It always seems to be the people that can do those horrible things and be Killers like that are either from the deep inner city where life is hard and brutal weather from the countryside where they grew up slaughtering chickens and cows and animals around them. By the way you almost have to come from a background where you've seen a dead person or dead animals around you often enough to not care.

@govinda102000

2 жыл бұрын

The vise sounds sick. Can you imagine the torture done by Lake and Ing?

How is it possible that your husband, or ex-husband, kidnap and hold eight people captive against their will on your family property and you don't have any notion of it at all?? And why wasn't this woman being looked at more closely? It's her family's property.

@antonieoostendorp1616

2 жыл бұрын

She was cunning enough and knew exactly what went on , She was either Complicit, Associated, or Witnessed what went on. So through her Legal representation become immune from prosecution before giving limited information. She knew as did her or his Mother as they went up to clean up the Cabin.

@kellyngrey4950

2 жыл бұрын

Sociopaths prey on the weak and easily manipulated. She likely felt some relief that he had turned his wrathful attention on someone else, other than her. Do I think she was completely oblivious? No, she was willfully blind, but not oblivious. Do I think she is culpable and should have faced justice? Absolutely. But I also think she was a victim, if a different type, of his.

@gmonkman

2 жыл бұрын

yea, I get static for throwing some additional logs on the bbq and staying out and having a few more beers past 11pm.

@blacknight2149

10 ай бұрын

She knew something was going on there. She knew he was a weapons collector and she must have been in to kinky stuff being married to him and still letting him live in the family house after they were divorced. Did she actually know they were killing people? Not sure but she knew bad stuff was happening there. He must have been paying her with some of stolen money and property.

That prosecution lawyer is incredible to watch, she's so professional and collected. Mad respect.

@JakeKoenig

2 ай бұрын

Um.. this is all a reenactment. You realize that right? They are all actors. This wasn't the real trial. Do an image search of the real people involved in this case. None of them were in this video except for the few snippets they threw in.

@wriggleby

2 ай бұрын

@@JakeKoenig omg thank you, that makes so much sense 😭 I like to think I've gotten better at not taking things at face value since I commented this!

The defense attorney really did have a fool for a client. Putting the wife on the stand just to have her look guilty was definitely a move I didn’t see coming. Great documentation of this case

@Bootmahoy88

2 жыл бұрын

I had hoped that action would've put a bullseye on her back.

The prosecutor making him trip up on his own lies is legendary.

These 2 were truly sick and dangerous for anyone around them. They fed each other's sicknesses. Think of how many secrets went with him when he took his own life.

@jkeezy93

2 жыл бұрын

THREE. His "ex wife" signed documents for immunity for murder and kidnapping.... she was in on "the miranda project"...... it wasn't just those two his ex wife helped....

@BayMacDre415

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, you mean to say THREE. FOUR if you include the grandma, who went along to clean up the evidence with the daughter.

@marymorningstar4508

2 жыл бұрын

He thinks he escaped justice by killing himself but where he went there will be true justice. He will not be able to lie or manipulate his way out of his evil.

@rhondaalbrecht

2 жыл бұрын

All three, in reality. Clara Lyn Balazs was there, too. Then we have the women who managed to survive. I'm sure that they were complicit, as well, but realized that they were getting too close themselves to being victims, and escaped. They were likely the first victims of Leonard Lake, who was still refining his techniques when they were with him, which allowed them to survive.

@rhondaalbrecht

2 жыл бұрын

@@BayMacDre415 Yea, I was thinking on that aspect, too. Went to clean up the cabin, Clara Lyn lived with Leonard Lake's mother... yet was divorced from Leonard Lake. That's a rather WEIRD relationship. So, that tells me that mom was involved, too, but they never connected her.

Most of the time I forgot that its an enactment. These actors and the way these enactments are directed is just fantastic.

So sad that people go missing for months and no one even notices

It's ridiculous how the criminal gets away with as much as they do..oh let's keep delaying and costing the state money, repeatedly!!! It should NOT be allowed

@borahjones9018

2 жыл бұрын

What surprises me is that Ng was close to a few murders that happened before this and no law enforcement could put 2+2 together.

@bostonplace2314

2 жыл бұрын

Its the Prosecutors EGO's that dont let it go...& they cant

@bostonplace2314

2 жыл бұрын

@@borahjones9018 Law Enforcement agencies do NOT speak to each other... watch any cop show and they fight even on tv. Male Ego - God calls a sin "Pride" creates the Devils work...

@mariaarmstrong-smith2274

2 жыл бұрын

They leave the arsehole alone in the interrogation room where there is a camera that obviously nobody was checking what he was doing? Nice work

Thank you prosecutor for keeping him off the streets for the 12 years it took to bring him to justice. You saved many lives & those lives weren't tortured.

@umadbra

2 жыл бұрын

You think you could've done better? Effing captain hind sight.

@thisisthebestnameever9090

2 жыл бұрын

@@umadbra I think he is being genuine

@jkeezy93

2 жыл бұрын

His ex wife was in on it that's why she signed documents for immunity from murder charges and kidnapping... if she was an innocent victim she wouldn't need immunity....

@peterjongsma2779

2 жыл бұрын

Strong Sarcasm.

@TurkeyCreekGal

2 жыл бұрын

@@umadbra what the heck is up with your hateful comment??

Damn, a criminal, a murderer, was treated better than his victims. Just how incompetent this justice system was to allow that criminal to get the better of them? Just utter incompetence for allowing the criminal to delay proceedings thus wasting resources and taxpayers' money. 🙄

@gmonkman

2 жыл бұрын

at the time he was presumed innocent thought. You get the principle dont you?

@crookedfingersgirl7356

3 ай бұрын

And the westly allen dodd... Literally turned my stomach....

Will Lymon, a top narrator. Right up there with Mike Wallace, Rod Sterling, et al.

I’m so grateful there are so many super-intelligent people in this country who are willing to take on these horrible jobs and endure such sickening, base, and horrific behaviors men like this and other serial killers think of in their diseased minds and then act on. This includes the detectives, staff involved in scientific evidence gathering and processing, and prosecutors.

@grant9005

2 жыл бұрын

Some people like it tho

@dadycreations100

2 жыл бұрын

I'm grateful also Ng was so stupid to shoplift with a warrant out on him!

@jennphanat1286

2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad you are not supportive of "Defund the police" movement.

@realascanb222

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by base? Just curious.

@BeckBeckGo

2 жыл бұрын

@@grant9005 yeah this is true (and it’s good that they do in a situation like this, don’t get me wrong) They get a rush from it. I had considered once a career in forensic biology. But I realized quickly I couldn’t do it. The cadaver tells the story, of their final day and it’s not a happy one.

You know when you hear this narrator, it's about to be good

My dad was a Court Of Queen's Bench justice in Calgary for 32 years. He had MANY high profile cases - the largest mass murder in Calgary history at that point - a guy named Russell Rafuse who killed 4 people at a party. The first murder case in Alberta to go ahead without bodies - a guy named Alois Dolejs who took his two kids fishing during his court-ordered visitation and the kids never came back etc. But his highest profile case internationally was Charles Ng's shooting of a security guard at the Bay store who caught him shoplifting. Ng had been camping in Fish Creek park while on the run. He had actually had interaction with some kids that stumbled upon him in the bush. Those kids didn't have any idea how lucky they were to come out of that alive. Anyway, my dad was eventually appointed Associate Chief Justice of Alberta in the late 90's which he grew to hate because it took him off the bench and largely relegated to administration work. He loved the law and the courtroom and lawyers too much to be stuck behind a desk.

My mother’s landlords secretary lived next to Charles and Leonard before they got caught and my mothers landlord had told her how she said she had dinner at Charles and Leonards cabin house with her husband a few times and they seemed like sweet, normal people. They never suspected!! So crazy. Guess they were lucky they weren’t also victims.

@brandonhaygood6824

2 жыл бұрын

Sick mfers

@LOLFIELDANDLOVE

2 жыл бұрын

My name is Patrick. I'm the creator/producer of a KZread True Crime video series. I would love to speak with your mother's landlords secretary! Can you please convey my message to them? Would like to invite them on my podcast.

@kinkytailmopogo3389

2 жыл бұрын

Bet they knew or partaked as well

@damienholland9432

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, hottie.

@eleven9286

2 жыл бұрын

I call bs

To think Lake carried cyanide capsules around on him is crazy.

@ButtSauceversion1

2 жыл бұрын

If only Ng had done the same thing could have saved a lot of time and money.

@lesliesmith5797

2 жыл бұрын

But so glad he did 🤣

@WindDancer435

2 жыл бұрын

No, its not crazy. It shows pre planning in the event of capture. He was a an organized in his thinking type of killer, unlike his partner in crime Ng.

@mytoesarecold5555

2 жыл бұрын

@@ButtSauceversion1 - seriously, though. Would’ve saved taxpayers millions.

@suzannefranklin7946

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad Ng didn't. They had the tapes and bodies.

"Through my training I observed it to be a silencer". Yea, through my video game training I was right there with you.

@PeterStawicki

2 жыл бұрын

My training via episodes of CSI gave me the same knowledge

@ondersfreedom6094

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. I said exactly the same thing. 😂 Proper high end training lol

@evasanchez3596

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha. Too funny.

@EllicottCity1

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, brilliant comment!😆

@robinwhite3264

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Atrocities beyond anything committed by any of the worst of the worst serial killers. There is something horrifically unique about guys with no qualms about abducting and murdering 2 couples and their infant children. Then you have the additional cruelty of sexually savaging the women on camera, the victims knowing that their rapes will be watched many times after they’re dead. Both mothers tortured and raped in a tiny prison while simultaneously enduring the agony of knowing or suspecting their babies were dead. I’ve never heard of even War Atrocities as extreme as that.

@sanitarycockroach9038

2 жыл бұрын

That's Nanking levels of messed up.

@johnscanlon2598

Жыл бұрын

You’ve never heard of the Rape of Nanking ? Truly horrific what the Japanese did to the Chinese

@johnscanlon2598

Жыл бұрын

@@sanitarycockroach9038 dang beat me to it

I can't believe how long they got away with this. The neighbors go missing? The brother goes missing? The friends go missing? These people were all undeniably linked to these two guys. Took way too long to search the property. It looks like a dump, some states protect their criminals too well. I guess innocent civilians' lives don't matter much in California.

Should've arrested the ex wife too for accessory.

@jimwerther

2 жыл бұрын

After she received immunity? How does that work?

@umadbra

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimwerther prior to given her immunity... the fact that are went there to tidy up is accessory.

@umadbra

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimwerther accessory after the fact at least...I don't now... Jim... that's why people like are are giving out deals like that when simple facts are there and a 5 year old toddler could've figured out. Just saying.

@jimwerther

2 жыл бұрын

@@umadbra Well, Jeez, you're 43 and you haven't got a freaking clue. They gave her immunity on the assumption that she was barely involved and could help them nail Ng and also solve the crimes. That's common sense. It turns out she was far more involved, but they couldn't do anything about it once they gave her immunity, a deal which took place _after_ she interfered with the crime scene. I'm sorry you don't get it. Have a five year old explain it to you.

@umadbra

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimwerther ok dunce, she was there to clean up the scene before they gave her the immunity. They should've have arrested her at that point instead of giving her a deal. I know you can't comprehend. You just need a couple more years to grow into understanding common sense.

Ahh, I remember this. I was about 14 and lived in Fremont Ca. When this case broke open and they figured out everything people were seriously blown away. Myself included. Normal people could never imagine something like this ..it's a real life nightmare.

@flstffatboy3910

2 жыл бұрын

Me too Santa Clara these guys are the worst of the worst

@Tom-vl8kk

2 жыл бұрын

i was murdered by him

@5kr3aminMunk33

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tom-vl8kk I was the knife he used

@Tom-vl8kk

2 жыл бұрын

@@5kr3aminMunk33 noo =(

@therealdeal3672

2 жыл бұрын

These guys were a horrifying duo. I always feel bad for the people who have to sit on the jury for these trials. Ng fighting so hard against his trial shows what a cowardly murderer he is. Lake's ex-wife must have had some sense of something going on because she knew about the cinder block building enough to seek immunity and lawyer up before it got searched. I don't think she was involved, but she had some kind of knowledge of something going on. She knew Lake and Ng were freaks, at the very least. She was an ex-wife so she obviously wasn't wanting to be married to Lake. This is one of California's most chilling serial killer stories.

Out of all the serial killer docs, only Leonard Lake's comes with a warning... because he popped that cyanide.

"Then I did something very clever. I made what looked like a bookcase, only for tools and things, out of some old wood and fitted it with wooden latches in the doorway, so that if you gave a casual look it just seemed that it was an old recess fitted up with shelves. You lifted it out and there was the door through." The Collector, p.25 It's eerie to read first 33 pages of The Collector, knowing Lake read it and clearly followed parts of it to the letter.

@jackhamilton9604

Жыл бұрын

I read that in Lake's voice

I had bought this documentary on DVD about 4 years ago, I watched it only one time and tossed it. It was a well-done documentary but I had nightmares after watching it for weeks and still get chills every time I even hear the word Boneyard, like some sort of PTSD. I cannot imagine the devastation/fear/stress the family, friends, and police feel from living it and watching unspeakable things on those tapes.

@TheTwinFiles

2 жыл бұрын

My channel does true crime and we did a video on the serial killer Maury Travis. He recorded what he did to some of the women he kidnapped and actually listening to the audio is heartbreaking. It's really hard to listen to.

@no_peace

2 жыл бұрын

I saw a true crime show about it when i was relatively young and I've never gotten over it. I keep pausing this. I don't know why i clicked on it. This one and the toy box killer story, along with a few others, keep running in my head if i get reminded of them

@Kolamite78

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTwinFiles I know ! When someone bought his old house and found out what happened there, they moved immediately

@PFlaw317

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTwinFiles I could only watch the Maury Travis doc once..chilling and horrifying

@arongilbert5828

2 жыл бұрын

And yet, here you are again

I remember this case when I was a teenager living and still living in New York City. It was one of most horrendous and disgusting cases I have ever seen and heard about. It offended me back then in the 1980(s) and still rings in my head every so often and I thought the world had forgotten about this case and I can’t believe it that they made a documentary about it. These people were some sick people even by today’s standards.

@MikeBarbarossa

2 жыл бұрын

I don't remember the case, but we had our own serial killer (BTK) about the same time that lived in the same small community as my family and was trying to get my cousin to meet him under creepy circumstances, possibly to try to kill her

@gracieamazing2076

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeBarbarossa Wow. How frightening. Will your cousin grant an interview or write a book someday?

@StonersAutoService

2 жыл бұрын

yeah its crazy because i live in the Bay Area not a good look for our area):

@mitch5699

2 жыл бұрын

@@StonersAutoService hey , so what would be a good look for the Bay Area , I mean no disrespect , just curious is all .... you don't have to answer that anyway

@HooLeePhucingSheet

Жыл бұрын

@@StonersAutoService my bf took me to his hometown and maaaannn is it a Shthole. Like- no offence, it makes me sad to see. I really expected the Bay to be nice but everywhere I turn, there's homeless, tweakers, road rage, needles and trash everywhere! Worse than LA imo because at least LA isn't so compacted with people and buildings. There's some serious corruption going on in those cities...

This show left out a lot of the sadistic horror Lake and Ng inflicted on their victims.

@sixthsenseamelia4695

2 жыл бұрын

Series was made for television. Content would've been sanitised for general viewing.

The most unbelievable part of this story is a San Francisco police officer responding to a shoplifting call.

that poor mother and her innocent little baby😰😭💔

I was 6 in 1985, and I'll never forget the name Charles Ng. It was a huge deal when he was caught here in Calgary, and even as a kid I could tell that it was a major arrest. That Hudson's Bay Company is still in downtown Calgary.

@stnz908

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that too.

@lovecats6856

2 жыл бұрын

I was there at that store and saw it happen.

@SuperMcbonez

2 жыл бұрын

I lived in calgary a couple of years ago. Was it the store in the core (I think that's what it was called) off 6th ave

@w.everett8860

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperMcbonez Near there, 7th ave and 1st SW

Killing babies is so sick! The video of the poor mom pleading for her baby is horrible. These poor people in many cases knew and probably trusted these maniacs. The terror they all went through breaks my heart.

These guys were real peaches. Anybody opposing the death penalty should take a close look at this case. Leonard lake in particular

Love how much depth and info was put into this story. I watched this same case on 2 different channels and they didn't come close to putting as much information as this one did.

@michelleburt3468

2 жыл бұрын

This is an old professional T.v. show. Thats why.

@kimberlymandera7672

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You for your comments. YOUR Comment/Review made Me Watch It & you were so right!!! Thank You!!

@debgersh5555

2 жыл бұрын

And this is why I can watch the same story told many times🙂

@sharonletchford9375

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I read that as I ve seen the case on numerous utube channels, only I found their wasn't enough info.

@BlytheWorld1972

2 жыл бұрын

@@michelleburt3468 yes not a cheep sky TV or freeview channel program this is the real deal

I cant even imagine being a defender for this monster.

@juandiego9164

2 жыл бұрын

A barrister cant pounce fast enough at the opportunity though. so be satisfied that you're not a monster.

@Tinthia82

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think even they could believe that he didn't murder anyone. They taped him doing other stuff to the victims, they can't seriously think killing them was beneath him!

@Third_Eye_on_the_Sky

2 жыл бұрын

I farted

@cheryallenjenkins9800

2 жыл бұрын

Yep,I'd pass on that one

@TBonerton

2 жыл бұрын

Defense attorney is the proper term. Ng is the defendant.

The prosecution should have pointed out that there were survivors of Leonard Lake but not so once Charles Ng became involved.

So I pay a premium to not watch ads only to now have ads integrated in the videos.

I'm surprised how many people in the comments thought the actors in this were actually the real people. They showed the real footage and pictures several times to let you know the rest is a reenactment.

@Gl-my8fw

2 жыл бұрын

People dont like to pay attention apparently.

@wilemmcdubs5682

2 жыл бұрын

@Sharon 20 y.o - check my vidéó stfu bot

@corylepire342

2 жыл бұрын

Same people who watch all the KZread pranks and believe it’s all real, i call them sheep.

@direktive4

2 жыл бұрын

shout out to the production team

@asmith4549

2 жыл бұрын

People generally aren’t too bright

Who else can’t get past being pissed off that Lake took his own life

@fraxizztv6433

2 жыл бұрын

Why pissed off? Saved the taxpayer quite a bit of money.

@Jdat1212

2 жыл бұрын

@@fraxizztv6433 I’d personally pay money to watch this guy suffer years in prison. It doesn’t pack the same punch if he’s dead.

Ugh, this documentary is FANTASTIC

This was HUGE news in Canada 🇨🇦 because Charles Ng was on the loose here.

I watch these shows during all my free time 😭😭😭😭

@staceysmith8292

2 жыл бұрын

You’re not alone love 😅

@genevaherbert5686

2 жыл бұрын

@@staceysmith8292 lol 😂

@travelerforever8849

2 жыл бұрын

same.. 🤣.. it help me to be more aware of my surrounding..

The actaul video of his neighbor begging for them to not kill her baby as they mock her and continue to let her know that they are going to kill the baby still haunts me to this day. Its one of the worst things ive ever seen and anytime this case comes up i am reminded of it.

@Jbrowni3

2 жыл бұрын

Yupp...

@RefRed_King

2 жыл бұрын

Wheres the video?

@heatherhubertz4161

2 жыл бұрын

Same here 💔

@rdred8693

2 жыл бұрын

I hate them so much. Also hate the wife and mother of Lake, for covering for him.

@GrifoStelle

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god. That's not in this documentary right, they would have age restricted it. I don't think I could handle, I'm only half way through.

Thank you for this story , I no it will be good ,cuz you guys always have great stories !

Never having heard of this case, not knowing anything about the outcome, this is the WILDEST. RIDE. EVER. And then the juror said they were deadlocked .... On one count. Prosecutor and defense attorney are BOTH geniuses. I mean I hate to say it, but if I'm ever on trial, I want that guy defending me. Calling the wife to the stand, reading her immunity agreement, and "no questions." That was brilliant. BRILLIANT. If Ng hadn't insisted on testifying, I think he'd have gotten off.

I can't believe the wife was granted immunity. It was clear from the start that she was in on it. Driving up to the cabin in the night to 'tidy up' ? That should've been enough to raise suspicion. And BTW, that's a nice toupee the Sheriff is sporting.

@lilmissnobody4815

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice to me!! Haha👌

@alvaromaharg9768

2 жыл бұрын

The toupee is epic

@geenadasilva9287

2 жыл бұрын

agreed! quite apart from his being a decent cop, he ought to be applauded for carrying it off with ablomb... 👍🏽👨🏻‍🦱

I dont really believe in torture or knee capping people but for this dude id let that slide.

@govinda102000

2 жыл бұрын

Well that's one good think about other countries. They know how to teach a lesson. Torture just like these two guys performed on the victims.

It’s so creepy to think that when they replayed the disgusting videos in court Ng got to relive the event one last time. I feel like they shouldn’t be able to watch the videos they made so they can’t enjoy it.

@crookedfingersgirl7356

3 ай бұрын

Yup. I never thought of that...very good point.... This actually should be presented to the legal system...

I cannot really understand how people can commit such acts of pure evil. I know it is apart of us as human beings but, I really wish these sorts of events did not happen. I understand in reviewing these cases why women are scared of men. All I can do in my life is try to be an example a good man a defender of women and the helpless. Real men stand up to this sort of evil.

@forpetessake3532

2 жыл бұрын

they are rare these days

@fraxizztv6433

2 жыл бұрын

It's often a gradual thing. Nearly always a toxic nurture growing up or some really messed up genetics, like a wolf. I believe most people are actually capable of committing these acts, but ofcourse and thankfully they rarely get to these extremes.

@clairejohnson6522

2 жыл бұрын

You need cloning.

Makes me feel a bit queasy listening to what these animals did to innocent people… especially the babies! Tough guys while people were handcuffed but when they were handcuffed they were cowards! One killed himself and the other just reminded me of a spoiled, entitled brat!

I just can't wrap my head around the fact that his ex wife is just living her best life... She definitely knew about everything. She definitely played a role in some of these murders. She literally helped Charles ling get out of town! She knew what was going on. Guilty!!!!

@kaylengrimm6088

2 жыл бұрын

67>l8l⁰]

@syriasmith4842

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@awwwyouknowit5971

2 жыл бұрын

I Agree Texas, That's Nuts!

@jillianchristensen8991

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaylengrimm6088 I have to say that the things I have b

@jillianchristensen8991

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaylengrimm6088 I have to say that the things I have been

Damn I miss 90s crime shows! This and Forensic Files were my jam 😎

Yikes. I was there when the security guard took down Charles Ing in the Hudson Bay store in Calgary, Alberta , Canada. I didn't realize at the time what was happening, until it was on the 6 o'clock news. He was one sicko. I shudder to think what they were going to use the vise for.

I’m so impressed by that prosecutor, she didn’t take her foot off the defence’s neck for one second

@scavenger38

2 жыл бұрын

n. . Hhbhhhh h. H hm. H. H h. Mhh. Mmmh

@xenn4985

Жыл бұрын

Lmao what? The women they made an immunity agreement with (for which they got little information) sitting as witness for the defense AND not being able to cross examine her? That was a massive hit to the prosecution.

The wife knew more than she let on, she became very nervous, when the police asked about the “fallout torture chamber”. That list of rules applied to her too!! And why ask for immunity if so innocent?🤔

@ozdavemcgee2079

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh thats a double edged sword. Its th3 same as presecuting say a s3cretary at Auschwitz. Both knew both shut their mouths to save their own lives

@ozdavemcgee2079

2 жыл бұрын

B

@dorisallos4564

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@mobilegameclips5628

2 жыл бұрын

@@ozdavemcgee2079 “I was just following orders” is not an excuse and secretaries from death camps deserve to be punished idgaf what the excuse is

@danosverige

2 жыл бұрын

@@mobilegameclips5628 - Seemed to be good enough for Lt Calley (and everyone above and below him) at his trial for the My Lai massacre!

Respect getting the voice over guy who does Frontline. He’s the sound of legitness

Thanks for doing the world a big favour, Lake.

His wife went back to destroy evidence of her own involvement. His letter to her was a hint to go keep herself out of jail.

thanks for this. I remember this case as a kid, and it was crazy! Often underrated in public knowledge that is.

This fella is a great narrator.

An excellent production

Good thing he was trained to tell that was a silencer because anyone under the age of 6 might not realize that. Also props to him for responding to a theft under lights and siren.

@MistressKarma6969

2 жыл бұрын

🤣 🤣 🤣

@camkraw893

2 жыл бұрын

It was actually dispatched as a "robbery in progress" as the 911 caller informed the operator a potential accomplice was still on site and becoming belligerent with employees; lights and sirens completely justified lol...

@italianchicky888

2 жыл бұрын

haaaaaaaaaaaaa its calaveras county haaaaaaaaaaa

Lake did horrendous wicked things to his victims and the coward in him took the easy way out. Truly evil man the wife is a piece of work. Greetings from the UK 🇬🇧.

@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325

2 жыл бұрын

Its not really cowardly though he chose death over incarceration , from what i gather its a painful death imagine sitting there with the pill in hand knowing you are about to die and face judgment Cowardly is overused its selfish

@stormbreak7003

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325 it is cowardly though. He died on his own terms and didn't face the consequences of his actions. He chose a short painful death then face a lifetime of prison or even the death penalty.

@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325

2 жыл бұрын

@@stormbreak7003 its not really cowardly though why would he want to go to prison its not a question of fear its a choice of death over a crappy future. Cowards don't murder or commit suicide its a ridiculous thing people parrot that makes no sense

Fantastic documentary.

Good job!

This was my favorite video from you guys. It was really satisfying to see the prosecution question Ng when he testified.

Those glasses on Charles NG could be used to view the Nasa space station. ..or teach a cub scout to start a fire while camping.

@okememaya2834

2 жыл бұрын

idk why this was so funny to me 😭

@Singinbluebird

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hamishanderson6738

2 жыл бұрын

But not strong enough to see the error of his ways.😶

Around 1:00:30, the prosecutor doesn’t say it, but you can tell he wishes he could unsee that video. He lost sleep over seeing the torture. 💕 I would, too!

I'm so glad I found this saw it years ago and definitely the best

I remember hearing about this case as a young boy. Finding the fact that Ing was kept in a steel cage at trial akin to something out of a movie. It was some 30+ years later I had found myself living in a small cottage with my new girlfriend and her daughter in a small town in the Sierra’s called Wilseyville. The kind of place that a well timed blink could cause you to miss entirely if driving through. I’m not exactly sure what it was that sparked my memory but after a little investigation it came to light that I was living about 2 miles away on the very same road as the property used by Lake and Ing. I’ll never forget the feeling that came over me wen I finally worked up the nerve to drive by the place. The main gate was exactly as it was in the documentaries that can be watched. The No trespassing signs, the heavy chain, everything. I immediately felt like a prey animal who knows the predators are out of his sight but that he is not out of there’s. Needless to say I didn’t stay long...

@italianchicky888

2 жыл бұрын

the whole property was very eerie and dark

@poindextertunes

Жыл бұрын

im getting chills over here. you just never know who someone really is on the inside

@janetwilhelm4435

Жыл бұрын

Did you pray for the Victims?

Charles Ng and Leonard are two sociopaths. This is evident from disturbing events of their childhood. Ng is very brilliant and thus used his brilliance to manipulate the justice system. The ex wife is well aware of the killings and may have participated in the crimes.

@kurtbrewski7050

2 жыл бұрын

Ng stole something from a store with a murdered man's car with an illegal murder weapon inside. You're right. He's so brilliant.

@MrLeglamp

2 жыл бұрын

Ng is smart alright. He knew how to manipulate the justice system but got caught twice for shoplifting.

@kellyngrey4950

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtbrewski7050 At that point he was emboldened and arrogant - common traits of sociopaths that often get them caught. But it's a good thing that stupid little mistake got him caught.

@Tigerfire75

2 жыл бұрын

Well that is obvious. If you were some of these victims like the women would you trust Leonard or Charles? No but the exwife

@davidng8870

2 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling it’s more the brilliance of his lawyers. Dad was a businessman and I guess he might have inherited by that point. Still, kleptomania and arrogance is not incompatible with brilliance

I can't believe someone killed thier neighbors. When these sickos go on their killing spree they usually spare the neighbors. The neighbors are usually the ones on TV saying "he seemed so normal."

i need more docs just like this one