Correction: 2242 m.2 isn’t “full-sized” but the middle size between 2230 (Steam Deck/Ally) and 2280 (actual full size). This channel is really going downhill! Also I called Cult of the Lamb the wrong game, forgive me. Finally, the device doesn’t have dual fans, just dual intake vents. I’ll look at that more when I tear it down for the review.

@marcello4258

9 ай бұрын

Even 2280 is not full-size

@redcrimson1028

9 ай бұрын

Lol.. People make mistakes lol

@kmieciu4ever

9 ай бұрын

​@@marcello4258that's what she said!

@officerminiwheats

9 ай бұрын

Downhill to handheld heaven and I'm on board

@M4RC0Geek

9 ай бұрын

20:04 One more to add: The Lenovo Legion GO don't have a dual fan design like the Asus ROG Ally it's only one big fan.

I really love the idea of the controller that can turn into a mouse, I think Lenovo should look at this and see a way to improve upon it to see if there is anything they can do to improve the experience because I think its a very cool idea.

@mouhalo

9 ай бұрын

i am thinking later down the line they could even sell specific right controllers that makes the experience way better idk

@Sir.YeetusIII

9 ай бұрын

Maybe instead of having a magnetic base, they could have a part of the controller that flips down at the press of a button for the base

“Premiers in 2 hours” Me: sadly puts drink and snack back in fridge

@dirge808

9 ай бұрын

yes, but is it your FAVORITE snack??

@randerins

9 ай бұрын

​@@dirge808probably the Rogallytos

So happy to see handheld tech reach a level this epic, so many different options. I love the future we have in store for handhelds

@PeteOliva

9 ай бұрын

I totally agree, and I actually think the future of PC gaming in general in terms of hardware is in devices like this. That can also be attached to a larger screen if need be, essentially the switch idea. And you can easily turn this into a functional productivity PC just by pairing a keyboard and mouse to it and attaching it to a monitor.

@emanuelarriaza3710

9 ай бұрын

I want to see what steam deck 2 is gonna do

@Elementalist_

9 ай бұрын

@@emanuelarriaza3710 I want to see what kind of chipset and performance Intel and Nvidia will come up with

@77wolfblade

8 ай бұрын

@@PeteOliva Might be the way to go since gpu prices are still high.

This is literally the only review video i’ve seen that not only tells but shows the removal of the joystick and where it goes on the case 10/10 masterpiece of a video

I've been using it since Tuesday when it arrived and I have exactly the same thoughts, the most annoying cons: 1- The legion space software in general is laggy and it crashes very often, good thing is you don't necessarily have to use it 2- Right quick action button non sense, press it once to open a stupid menu, press it twice to actually adjust the settings that you want 3- Constantly unwanted pressing the back and side buttons on the right controller 4- If you want to use it as a tablet only there's no way to disable/disconnect the controllers, they always look for the device all the time 5- When using it as a tablet you always have to enable auto rotation for some reason I am keeping mine for now, but will not be selling my steam deck, actually now that I go back to the steam deck I really appreciate all the effort and thought that valve put in the software. If Lenovo doesn't deliver constant updates i might end up returning this or selling it.

@redcrimson1028

9 ай бұрын

I feel you dude, and I support your comment. I found the same issues annoying, same as you. It's a very overrated product. I find it so funny before release, how people already put it on a hi pedestal saying that it's the Rog killer and the best handheld 😂😂😂😂😂. I guess those people blew their load too early. What I do like about the system is the big screen. Also what made me pull the trigger was, I like how Lenovo added a 1TB off the bat , while at the same time Micro Center has 2tb models. I opted for the 2tb, it just made sense. I'm kinda on the fence between returning it or keeping it? It's hard to give up that 2tb and big screen but u gotta do what u gotta do right? Gameplay doesn't feel smooth at all on this thing. It suffered a lot. Switch is still King though can't wait for the switch 2 to spank these handhelds.

@ree3197

9 ай бұрын

I remember hearing the steam deck took a while to actually get good... So hopefully it's a similar situation.

@ree3197

9 ай бұрын

#3.. what are you talking about though? He says all the extra keys a disabled during handled.. so it's essentially like a Nintendo Switch.. and I've never had any issues with that.

@ree3197

9 ай бұрын

​@@redcrimson1028as someone who wanted the Go.. all these comments don't make the Ally look any better. I suppose if you already have it.. but I'd rather wait for something new.

@Gamersghoul

9 ай бұрын

I agree had it two days now still not managed to play a game. Lords of the fallen prompted for driver updates. Took me to amd website and for some reason it downloaded amd nitro, made the game unplayable. Even had issues getting dave the diver to run, set legion res to 800p and dave the diver would launch in 1080p. Legion space is super annoying it's in usd dollar even though my settings are UK, it doesn't seem to really have a purpose apart from poppimg up and annoying me every 2 seconds. YOU HAVE TO Have THE CHARGING CABLE PLUGGED In to change the screens frame rate from 144 to 60 fps.... The in game overlays just AREN'T working for me (could be lords of fallen). The battery doesn't anticipate time remaining in desktop or overlay. Also the settings menu doesn't seem to have all the graphical systems you need. Some are tucked away in the windows settings. Most of the reviewers just didn't mention any of this. I'm very close to sending mine back. The steam deck took around 10 mins to set up was playing games in about 30 mins once downloaded. Very intuitive ui. Lenovo has already failed to supply updated launch drivers and that's at launch! sorry needed to rant! I may make a youtube vid covering the above

Actually after using the fps mode for one week, the fps mode is easy to adapt and fun. More buttons means more option for different people to customize, I still think this is a nice idea that Lenovo try to do

@big_bird8597

9 ай бұрын

ill just stick with my g502

@SparkerR1987

8 ай бұрын

​@@big_bird8597the best part is YOU CAN! but having a dedicated mouse on board is amazing for those moments you need it but didn't carry your g502 on you. One question I have that no reviewer so far has mentioned is; what's the quality of that built in mouse sensor? Polling rate? Dpi? LOD? I want to know if it's equivalent to a decent gaming mouse or the $5 dell mouse I use at work?

A vertical oriented mouse is actually more ergonomic. Our wrists have more movement left and right when our hands are in this position. An ultralight pistol grip mouse would be amazing.

@X862go

9 ай бұрын

pistol grip mouse are a thing they suck lol i tried to love it lol!

@PomuLeafEveryday

9 ай бұрын

I wanted to like them for that, but it's difficult to get a stable click that doesn't move the mouse. I'd much prefer to use a large mouse with a high arc like the MX Master series, then use a very high sensitivity so you can make smaller left/right movements to get where you want to be.

@dj4monie

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter first it was grocery store checkers now it's going to be another generation of carpal tunnel syndrome sufferers.

@operator8014

9 ай бұрын

Get used to a good trackball and you'll NEVER want to go back.

@kozad86

9 ай бұрын

I just a vertical mouse on my PC, so I was def pleased to see one tucked away on a handheld.

Good on you, Russ for catching your error with the storage drive, but for completion's sake, here are all the M.2 sizes: 2230 - Used in the Steam Deck and Ally. Up until the Steam Deck released 2230 drives could only really be found, by themselves, on sketchy Ebay listings. Max storage size is 2TBs. 2242 - Used in the Legion Go. Originally more common than 2230, max capacity is the same at 2TBs. 2260 - Not common at all, probably only found inside OEM products. Unknown max capacity. I think it might be getting phased out. 2280 - Easily the most common M.2 size. Basically used everywhere it will fit. Max capacity 8TBs. 22110 - This is the weird one. The biggest size, but doesn't have the biggest capacity. Instead it houses the "weird" capacities, like 1.92TBs or 3.84TBs. Max capacity 3.84TBs.

@LordAshura

9 ай бұрын

You can get a cheap angle adaptor for the ROG ally to fit 2280's now that don't touch the heatsink. So, you can easily upgrade to 4tb.

@pieceofschmidtgamer

9 ай бұрын

@@LordAshura Uh, cool... How is that relevant?

Huge thanks for showing off that TomToc sling bag. It is perfect for me since some weeks I take my steam deck with me and some weeks I take my switch with the hori split pad pro. This bag fits both perfectly and has room for everything else I need to take with me.

Looking forward to benchmarks. I'm really leaning toward the Legion Go since it's from a major OEM with a long history of making and supporting PCs. I'm honestly surprised HP and Dell have not jumped on the bandwagon, but they could also be waiting for Meteor Lake SoCs too.

@bmwofboganville456

9 ай бұрын

any minor annoyances are nothing compared to not needing to import from China. Big brand name with reliable customer support.

@qwerty6789x

9 ай бұрын

cant expect too much on a Windows Based machine. Windows SUCKS on all level

@marleensrain

9 ай бұрын

well thats just your opinion but okay @@qwerty6789x

@Coliflower185

8 ай бұрын

Unless meteor lake has massive efficiency upgrades over raptor lake, I don't see Intel SoCs being viable in gaming handhelds any time soon. Just don't have the efficiency to run at that low a wattage

I think the biggest strength in the FPS mode is in RTS games. Micro managing units is so much harder on handhelds. The steamdeck's trackpads were the closest thing in the handheld space but i think this is where the Lenovo Go beats out the competition. Its a niche, but for me its a great. Combine that with the larger screen and battery and always having that "mouse" with you i think is why i ended up ordering it. From Lenovo's perspective the advertisement of FPS mode is appealing to the larger FPS market but a lot of modern FPS games typically already have controller support so it almost feels like a moot point unless you want to be more competitive/precise. In your second video i'd like to get your thoughts on more mouse dependent games (where controller support isn't natively supported). Starcraft, Red Alert, Rise of Nations, and Company of Heroes for example. I think it'll help in crafting the story of who this device is for. Great Vid!

@joethejetplane

9 ай бұрын

Got my Legion Go 2 days ago. I've been playing company of heroes 3 in FPS mode. It's by far the the closest mouse experience when playing real time strategy games on a handheld. I'm able to confidently move around the map and micro manage units.This is much easier than the steam deck(which requires a lot of hours to just train yourself to your custom layout) Initial impressions: if you love RTS games(and controller support is not available ) and also love handhelds this is the only game in town in having a pretty seamless transition between desktop RTS gaming and handheld RTS gaming. I only have two handhelds but the steamdeck and Legion Go I believe are the only two handhelds that have legitimate solutions that try to close the gap of creating a genuine mouse like gaming experience on handhelds(without adding accessories). Hope this helps!

@Muhluri

4 ай бұрын

Thanks bro

I feel you have the average techie who actually uses these things in mind. always prefer your reviews russ, you always hit the things that matter, thank you!

@oracle-0018

9 ай бұрын

Are you in love with russ?

@Boogie_the_cat

9 ай бұрын

He has real reviews based on gaming as a hobby, not based around selling crap for sponsors, or thru affiliate links for commission. His opinions are pure and untainted by greedy money grubbing, unlike, for instance, Unbox Therapy, Hardware Unboxed, LTT, Toasty Bros, etc...

@Boogie_the_cat

9 ай бұрын

​@@oracle-0018I love *you*, Oracle Lotus 123, Office 365, Microsoft Outlook. 🦆💨

@pkilljoy5797

9 ай бұрын

@@oracle-0018 YES

@zZiL341yRj736

9 ай бұрын

Because this dude isn't a lazy clown like ETAPrime with his benchmark numbers, Genshin Impact, God of War and Auto Moddelista covers......every VIDEOS.

Woah, very impressive hands-on test! Looking really forward the actual verdict! Love your content.

You just checked everything i wanted to know about it. I love how you take your time to be so real and humble. Much appreciated work

Loving the evolution of your content and the cadence you’re developing. Your diligence is exceptional and crucial in the fast-paced handheld world, thank you and keep it up, as always!

I've waited a long time for a review of the Lenovo Legion Go. Now I finally know that I can go buy a ROG Ally 🤪

excellent, witty review! your FPS mode "crowded bar" scenario damn near sold it for me 😂 ready for my time to shine

I luv how detailed this impression video is than the others did. Hoping Legion will add more some improvements in quality of life.

Great review! Hoping to pick up a handheld on Black Friday so I really hope your comparison video is out before then! 🤞

Such an excellent and deep review. Well done and thanks 👍

Russ, I think you have a love hangover from the AYN Odin 2. You love that thing so much that you now have a very different perspective on these new PC handhelds haha. I get where you're coming from though, I would love to get an Odin 2 for Christmas but no budget just yet haha. Thanks for the review Russ!

Excited for this Russ! 🤩

Mine arrives today, thank God 😊

I was looking for a larger device for a while and have "learned" to like it in the past 3 days. Performance is great and it keeps cool & quiet. I have to agree with the controls, just way to many buttons for my taste. Since we already have detachable controls, really hope they release a new set of controls that are without all these buttons and FPS mode, and perhaps more ergonomic as well.

The most reliable review ive been waiting for

You are doing an amazing job!

This is the review I was waiting for before buying.

I have been waiting on your review for this. For me it’s between this and the ROG Ally. Thank you for your take on this

It’s so cool to see such varied perspectives between the NerdNest folks and you pointed out a bunch of things the other guys didn’t. Also, thanks for inadvertently AGAIN re-validating my choice to go Steam Deck. 😅

@Rakumei672

9 ай бұрын

Honestly, if you don't play a game that just doesn't work on Proton the steam deck is still king. Much lower overhead. Amazing console-like experience. And Valve doing behind the scenes game-specific enhancements to make new stuff run better.

The mixed inputs and vertical mouse feature are the most interesting things about this device for me. Like 6 years ago, I was like, "What if I could aim with a mouse and my left hand was holding a Wii Nunchuck??" But I already have a PC and a Deck, so just getting a vertical mouse would probably be the call for me.

am still satisfied with my steam deck that I've had for a year and a half now. I have done some minor upgrades, but I will probably wait to see what valve does with a steam deck 2. I still think these new handhelds are pretty cool, and the future for handhelds promises to be exciting🔥👏🏾👏🏾🤟🏾👍🏾

@rettenthetetlen8759

9 ай бұрын

Indeed. Don't sell it. I doubt that anything can be come close price/performance/quality for years. I don't care about any overpriced contender.

@DoubleDragon5180

9 ай бұрын

@@rettenthetetlen8759keep on dreaming lol. Only reason why the Steam Deck is appealing is because the price. For a better price you can get better performance. Not everyone is using these handhelds as ONLY handhelds. People are docking them(like me) and for the performance when dock(which a lot of Techtubers barely touch on) is superior to the Steam Deck and then have the ability to use it as handhelds. People who are looking at devices that are not the Steam Deck, want PC replacements that is not bulky as a Desktop PC and way more portable and controller friendly than a laptop. Steam Deck community can’t understand this and never will

@DoubleDragon5180

9 ай бұрын

Exactly! I can’t wait for future handhelds to come out with the new APU from either AMD or Intel. Valve better hurry up and make the Steam Deck 2 pronto especially there is an Intel handheld in the wild. They can’t keep going this slow

Every time I see someone hold that controller in FPS mode I think to myself, "they must be holding it wrong." But nope, that's how Lenovo wanted people to hold it. It doesn't feel like they spent enough time testing and refining that. Maybe in a rush to get something to market. In any case, I think it's a fantastic innovation in the handheld space. I look forward to future iterations of "FPS mode", assuming other companies like the idea.

Thank you for talking me off the ledge. Was about to jump and trade up from the ROG Ally and the cons are very apparent. I really appreciate how un-clicky the Ally is and the controller noise on the Legion Go was too much.

Great critical review focusing on the things that I care the most about.

That was a good detailed review, thank you! Waiting for your ideas on how to use a 1600p screen.

I was skeptical when Dave2D went over the moon about Legion Go and bash ROG Ally. Now, watching your review, I can honestly say my skepticism was right... He's either not a gamer.. or Lenovo is giving him money... I love your review a lot more, focusing on the ease of use, ergonomic, and practical usage.

@CSHummer

9 ай бұрын

Seriously Russ is the only one I trust at this point. Everyone else for the most part is just schilling.

Best handheld reviewer👍👍 Always straight to the point, tough but fair and every little detail that could influence daily life with the device will be analyzed. Amazing work 👏👏

Just ordered mine this morning 😎🎮

I ve beeen waiting for you review

In my opinion valve built the baseline for other companies to come in and try new things and even potentially do it better I still don't own a handheld PC but seeing these companies try new things is making me excited for what's to come

Agreed 👍 with everything you said about the controllers, they also should have the option for straps since they feel really lightweight you feel they may fall easily.

Off topic - I just LOVE that intro music/video and whole vibe i get in the start On topic - I waited a long time for this video😅

I own one, and I largely agree with your assessments. I think it functions really well docked and in hand held mode, it really balances both of those experiences well IMO. The screen is by far its best selling point, it doesn't feel as heavy as it is, and imo the controls are really good, with only the right controller and the d-pad having some issues (too many button on the right and d-pad not really pivoting). To me the biggest problem rn is the software, it needs some polish but to be honest I'm comparing it to the excellent software on the steam deck, so maybe I need to check my expectations and to Lenovo's credit they've already stated that improvements are on the way.

@chrisoliver5302

8 ай бұрын

What did you think about where they put the "Start" and "Select" buttons? That kept driving me NUTS. Games where the "select" button goes to the map so you're constantly checking it, I kept hitting the Lenovo Space button. UGH, so annooying! lol

@josephrcase

8 ай бұрын

Not ideal, but serviceable is about all the more feeling I have about it. I can forgive those buttons being non ideal vs poor sticks or abxy buttons.

So I have had 48 hours with mine and as usual Russ gets it summed up perfect. Legion space sucks but I am enjoying the GO. The only change hardware wise is that right controller. Too many buttons that get in the way of playing handheld mode. I’m learning to live with it though

Legion is going in the right direction of being original...it's a beast that just needs the updates to fix things to become better...these handhelds take time to perfect ..so Legion owners have patience...but i still have my Steam Deck just incase, the ship decides to sink..😂

Immediately thought of Jesse Eisenberg the moment you started talking haha

I am glad Best Buy came through for you. I am still waiting for mine to ship after the ship date.

@dj4monie

9 ай бұрын

Best Buy has nothing to do with it. Lenovo sent him a review unit. The problem is Russ lives in Hawaii and if you package things like electronics wrong it will get sent back. He had Best Buy as a backup in case Lenovo wanted their review unit back.

@adamhughes5678

9 ай бұрын

Except the review model was returned, and this was his personal unit from Best Buy.@@dj4monie

@ryulanda9399

9 ай бұрын

​@@dj4monie Nope, this isn't a review unit.

I am a huge Tekken fan and I have no problem playing Tekken 7 on this console. I had the steam Deck and the ROG Ally and this one is the best.

@seanfindley1428

9 ай бұрын

I'm interested in this because of the insanely fast quick charging they advertise on it. Does it really charge to 70 percent in 30 mins? I'm surprised no reviewers have tested or mentioned this....

One of my favorite things is how tons of reviewers and users get mad if there's diagonal wiggle room on a D-Pad and now with this one I'm sure they'll get mad that there's not.

@puppy.shorts

9 ай бұрын

No Dpad on this planet can satisfy these all reviewers 😂

@RetroGameCorps

9 ай бұрын

It's a tough balance, and very subjective. I want a little wiggle room, but not so much that it will cause accidental diagonals, plus some natural pivot. Sadly it's pretty rare to find that perfect combination, only a few devices a year actually hit it perfectly. But in the handheld PC space there are plenty that achieve this: Steam Deck, ROG Ally, AYANEO KUN, and AOKZOE A1 Pro all pass my testing.

@MegaOverclocked

9 ай бұрын

@@puppy.shorts Vita D-Pad is the greatest D-Pad there has ever been; don't hear much if any complaints about it... but I suppose that's because no one owned a Vita.

@solidust573

9 ай бұрын

​@@RetroGameCorpsimo if I can't do dragons with it, its absolute trash. I mastered the dragon punch decades ago & I'm not trying to shift my timing for flawed hardware.

@DrMrPersonGuy

9 ай бұрын

​@RetroGameCorps I appreciate you talking about it from a fighting game perspective, because I play them and a good d-pad is important to me

I did not expect that much of a size differences from the lanovo and the switch

For us who moved from a lifetime of PlayStation and this is our first PC ever not just a handheld, can we get a video explaining all the graphics settings and what do we need to change/adjust for general gaming and what’s needed to be changed for certain games to get the best performance out of this over both battery and plugged in? Since because of your enthusiasm and reviews I got one and I love it. But I’m so overwhelmed with how much I need to do/learn just to using it especially coming after 20 years of Sony PS plug n play.

Can’t wait to play my first game on it after this joint, been updating & installing my games this whole time. I’m souped !

Awesome content from this Channel as always... 🤔🤓👌👀🧐🤯 Wide Kickstand... Courtesy of: MS Surface Pro... Should have Stylus support too... Maybe next Alteration...

Still playing D2, you’re very brave man

I wonder if any companies / lenovo will develop different attachments for the controllers. Like a Hori Splitpad or something without as many buttons

@redcrimson1028

9 ай бұрын

Very good question! That was the first question I asked myself when I bought my unit. I sure hope they do, but it all depends on how successful the handheld is and how much Lenovo decodes to support it. Honestly, they need 3rd party to step in and make different joycons for them. Reason being, I think the stock controllers are too big,somewhat uncomfortable, I don't like the analogs, and the dpad is too stiff

Gotta love Russ, he has the best tech reviews.

Reinventing the wheel.

Putting the hockey puck into the controller is so much fun. It's even more fun if you pretend you're reloading a gun.

Russ, please can you include a section on if this is a good video editing machine? That’s what I’m really interested in - a portable mini pc I can use for a lot of different use cases

I agree on the palm grips digging into my hand. Don't know why they didn't round those off... And I'd prefer that the legion buttons and select/start were swapped. Other than that love it

Your reviews are so thorough and very well thought out. Thank you. I would like to know more about battery life on the Legion Go - I have both the ROG Ally and Steam Deck and I have found I gravitate more toward the Steam Deck because it provides more optimization for battery depending on the game I am playing over the ROG Ally. Would like to know if the Legion go is even better to possibly replace both Steam Deck and Ally for use cases where battery life is a priority. Thanks!

@zeeejay

9 ай бұрын

This is exactly why I like my Steam Deck for majority of games I play as well. ROG Ally can take the heat with the new games, but it feels like the battery life is roughly the same no matter what game you play, whereas the Steam Deck may not be able to handle the most modern games as well as the ROG Ally, but you can get a lot more battery life depending on what you play.

Well i have a leigon go and im in blanced mode playing call of duty the 2022 getting 80 fps playing for 3 hours on battery and im loving it

Buggy, but a great device I heard we gonna have a couple of updates in the coming weeks, so be patient, guys. Also, they're new official lenovo z1 extreme amd drivers you can download as of now. A month old but better than the one's they shipped with.

I want to know about the cooling system, battery life and speakers

Been waiting on your review. I’m planning on selling my series x and build a pc sometime next year but in the mean time I’m planning on getting the rog ally or legion go for game pass. Mostly just playing Starfield. Hopefully I can figure out which one to get. Rog ally is currently on sale at Best Buy btw.

I love my Legion Go so much, but man I can't wait for them to iterate more on the Software. Legion Space needs a bit of work like you pointed out and quite a lot of times I'm not getting the built in on-screen keyboard in many settings using the device. I HATE having to use window's OSK. I'm super happy tho with mine and with some minor adjustments this thing will be close to perfect for my use-case. Can't see myself ever using that gimmicky "FPS mode" either, not when my G502 is so easily portable, has plenty of buttons, and is perfectly ergonomic.

I’m buying one

I'm trying to find it in Spain, but it doesn't seem to be in any store. Even Lenovos site says its not available. Any clue on what's going on?

Good review

Hi Russ! Thanks for the review. I was wondering: If you leave the FPS switch on, does the right controller still act normal when it is attached to the body? Honestly just curious, I'm still feeling fine with my 6800u performance. I am excited that the big companies are in the space though :-D

16:10 is much better than 16:9! Yes VRR would be awesome maybe we see one one day maybe even with pen support. I want to buy a handheld but also to replace my laptop as i work mostly on a desk but a laptop is also pretty big and takes space and a handheld is more versatile I guess and with a nearly 9” 16;10 display you could take it with and work even from time to time

The M2 being aim down sights is to mimic the mouse experience, where right click is aim down sights.

Let's go Russ you're the best!

“Big and imperfect”. Me too Legion Go, me too.

Much as i appreciate the innovations and gimmick that allows them to set themselves apart from most handheld PCs, i was initially hoping (specially after seeing that the GO is the same price as ally) that they went into the "keep it simple" way. I think if they kept the track pad but lose the detachable controllers (saving on parts, batteries etc), they could have priced themselves around 50 USD lower than the ally, making them basically the cheapest windows based handheld on the 7840u apu market, a market where price is a big factor given the big price range amongst all the handheld pc options. I hope another manufacturer enters the handheld market soon and goes in that "simple but affordable" direction, though i have a feeling that most are waiting for the 8xxx series or the rumored intel one with DGPU. Nevertheless, the segment is slowly growing and starting to break out of the "niche" segment which is a good thing for us gamers.

PSP 3000 will always be the best handheld. That nostalgic UMD screeching noise will always be memorable 😢

Finally !

I think it’s AMAZING that they put so many buttons and a scroll wheel, all for fps mode. Imagine playing Escape from Tarkov or Arma 3, with next to none buttons. Better to add more buttons. It’s not like you can add them later, when you’ll need them.

@alantsai3453

9 ай бұрын

I think his point is the buttons are way too many, left & right have different back layouts, which may cause accidental pressing when you play games. Menu and start button at the bottom of the left joycon is a weird design too. Several reviews mentioned these points above

Great unbias review! When playing in handheld / fps mode, do most games already auto bind the buttons? I know for the ROG ALLY, most games are just pick up and go without needing to bind. Seems like there aren't enough buttons on fps mode to bind everything for some games with alot of bindings.

“Inside the box there is another box, and inside that box there is a power supply.” Was this an emperors new groove reference?

Can you do some tests on how this is to kick back and use with the XReals with the controllers split in hand, and the device plugged in beside you?

Cool Tshirt!

2242 is mid sized drive 2280 is full laptop size with no price tax!

Full sized 2242? Usually when we hear full size for m.2 SSDs it's the 2280 format. 2242 sounds like it's going to be way harder to find aftermarket upgrades for the device. Please correct that if it's a mistake.

Just makes me appreciate the customizable steam deck control scheme even more, it's a very hard thing to do system and software wise.

18:06 - To be honest I get the feeling you'd probably have a better experience in tabletop mode just using a tabletop mouse. The right controller being in your hand will still be useful in that case. Vertical mice that you hold like that are a real thing btw. They're usually not used for gaming though, they're meant to be more ergonomic and reduce wrist injury for those of us who have not destroyed their wrists with a lifetime of computer work. (I am not one of those people.) Usually vertical mice aren't like gun handles though they're more angled, though there is that one gimmicky mouse, the Ragnok, that is made like a gun handle on purpose. :D

Yessssssssss finally

One thing that pissed me off about the controllers, is where they put the start/select buttons. They're on the left side, below the directional pad. What you would think are the start/select buttons are the shortcut buttons to Lenovo's software and settings toggle. Playing games like "Bloodstain'd: Ritual of The Night", I CONSTANTLY kept hitting the left and right buttons for the lenovo crap. Lots of other things I'm not loving about this handheld. I own 4 Decks, 1 ROG Ally, and of course 1 of these. So far, the Deck is the winner of the 3 for me.

We definitely still are in the early steps of handheld PC gaming but it's improving really fast. As soon as some one of the competitors succeed to have each devices advantages in one gear, it's going to be awesome. It already is but not to the point that you forget that each devices are PC first... Let's see how it goes, without forgetting how Nintendo up the Ante with their Switch 2.

@godminnette2

9 ай бұрын

@EatMe420 yes, I'm pretty sure he means handheld PC gaming

@killzekat

9 ай бұрын

@EatMe420 I indeed meant handheld pc gaming! I'll edit my post for clarity. Thanks

Fun fact when it charges it flashes the charging screen and then keeps the pc in off mode unless you deliberately turn it on so it is safe to charge while in the case. I experimented with it and confirmed. The only drawback is the default power button is sleep mode so the analog sticks and the power lights will keep lit. So i change the power button to hibernate.

Loved the imaginary situation with your friends 🤣

I'd be interested in seeing how well non-gaming apps run, such as Photoshop. And how does it perform compared to Windows laptops of similar price?

I kinda hope the fps mode thing get revised into an actual mouse with better button placement and ergonomic, since the hand grip is actually less stressful than regular mouse grip(your bones need to twist for normal mouse grip, while that doesn't happen on gun grip), and would feel rad for flight/mech sim.

@LPcrazy_88

9 ай бұрын

I dunno, for me I just don't ever see myself using it when I can just so easily use my Logitech G502 on the go that is perfectly ergonomic, portable, and has plenty of easily reachable extra buttons.

@hrgaming4plebs570

9 ай бұрын

@@LPcrazy_88 that's exactly the same mouse I use 😂 Just thinking of the marriage of a mouse and a flight stick so you don't need multiple peripherals for different game, also pistol grip mouse sounds kinda rad, if they got the button placements right especially if mouse click is a trigger, scrollwheel could be for thumb like the hammer of revolver.

@LPcrazy_88

9 ай бұрын

@@hrgaming4plebs570 Ya know that is a good point. If they could iterate more to make the experience better like with what you said then I would absolutely be excited about FPS mode.

@hrgaming4plebs570

9 ай бұрын

@@LPcrazy_88 yeah their main issue is trying to integrate both the switch controller and fps mode together making it feel more like a mess than a good idea

Doesn't it have a kickstand and mouse wheel or something? Excellent 1st impressions Russ! I wish they ditched FPS mode and just made normal back buttons with an overall lighter one piece handheld.

I wonder if it will become like the Switch where you have different detachable controllers. Hopefully first party rather than third party.

Are the analog sticks closer to the Deck or Ally? The Ally sticks have like negligible resistance and that is a huge turn off.

Commenting for the OK Computer shirt!

VRR is a great feature for a handheld

Can you do a video using the same tdp tweaking tools you used on the anbernic win600