Greg not really considering how many GC guys are on 165mm cranks now instead of 172.5, too. That added 5 rpm to my chosen cadence for sure when I made the switch, because it changes that torque relationship, and you select different gears, because you naturally want to spin faster on shorter cranks.

@effkay3691

25 күн бұрын

Nah, I think I’ll go with Greg all things bikey!

@Worldtraveler-24

23 күн бұрын

So, Lance didn’t change his crank length. Tadej on the other hand, has… his rpm on the hill climbs aren’t just from the seated position.

@user-qe3nj6km2y

14 күн бұрын

Well I'm with you. I'm sure you're knowledge is way more than one of the greatest riders of all time. Thanks for sharing

@rouxenophobe

13 күн бұрын

I think everybody is switching to 165mm cranks because manufacturers are trying to save money with a "one size fits all" approach. It's baffling to me why anybody would want to lose the mechanical advantage of longer cranks!

@joelecho

13 күн бұрын

@@rouxenophobe because you can replicate the same mechanical advantage with gearing. If it was manufactures doing it, they would stop shipping 54mm frames with 172.5 cranks, but often they do. I switched and have seen no loss in power over any duration, but way less discomfort of the hips in aero positions. The mechanical advantage argument would apply to a fixed gear situation to an extent, but even track sprinters are almost all on short cranks and have been for a while now.

There is no one smarter in the racing game than Greg. He led most of the revolutions that we all take for granted today, clipless pedals, sport specific sunglasses you name it. I believe what he says and after being on a team sponsored by him and spending time with the man I will always be team Greg.

@veganpotterthevegan

9 ай бұрын

This is nonsense. Plenty of known, winning dopers were mashers. *Most pros with lower wattage than mentioned are doping too.

@percyveer2355

3 ай бұрын

He is too long out of the sport. Things move on.

@thomasdavidbassett483

Ай бұрын

He didn't make those pedals Shimano made the first ones under licence for Look he just used them. Those figures of of watts is no so out of date.

@cycleoflife565

Ай бұрын

@@veganpottertheveganHe didn’t say all dopers were spinning at high rpm’s up the climbs. If their power output is increased due to doing then they can crank a bigger gear. Der Kaiser was a big gear grinder at the same time Armstrong was spinning up the climbs at a high rpm. Big gear cranking worked for Jan Ulrich.

@veganpotterthevegan

Ай бұрын

@cycleoflife565 the reality is that everyone in the grand tours is doping regardless of cadence.

Chris froome had ridiculous RPM when he was winning his tours.

@Gws525

Ай бұрын

Yeh, and he was juiced

@lylewalker5681

Ай бұрын

But he was a friendly guy and soft-spoken, so he couldn’t have doped!

@DublinDapper

Ай бұрын

@@lylewalker5681 lol

@zigzagnemesist5074

Ай бұрын

Still jealous of Froome are we? Just can’t accept that a nice humble guy from Kenya dominated your silly sport.🤣🤣

@zigzagnemesist5074

Ай бұрын

@@lylewalker5681 Still jealous of Froome are we? Just can’t accept that a nice humble guy from Kenya dominated your silly sport.🤣🤣

When I raced in So Cal, even guys in Cat 5 used dope...just to win a little trophy. There was even a few masters (seniors) who got busted for doping. If they dope at the lowest levels ofcourse they dope at the highest levels.

@sameoldish

23 күн бұрын

16 years ago I was in the junior competitions in Netherlands and Belgium. Kids 16-17 years old were already doping.

100 rpm while climbing in a 36/34 gear is called smart gearing. 100 rpm while climbing in a 40/28 is probably Peds unless your 135lb pro with a 400 ftp.

Power = cadence x torque , point being modern cyclist tend to have bigger cassettes hence bigger cadence on climbs. Different ways of getting 7 watts per kilo. High cadence doesn’t = doping .

@JosesAmazingWorlds

Ай бұрын

You watched Chris Horner's last video on the 7 watts per kilo thing?

Uhm...i'm an automotive engineer, i understand torque, rpm, power, but i totally missed the point here

@Elysium804

3 ай бұрын

Nevermind the chain rings are totally different - fail to get his point here also.

@vicbauwens

2 ай бұрын

I had the same reaction. Is he implying hat Merckx and Boardman were doped? Entirely possible of course but I’m not sure I understand the point.

@lloydhlavac6807

2 ай бұрын

@@vicbauwens No, I think quite the opposite.

@chriskreple

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think cadence and doping are related at all. When I was my fittest, the optimal cadence was about 100 rpms. I think others have found similar. Different body types likely perform best at slightly different rpms.

@user-br1up5vw4h

Ай бұрын

@@Elysium804in the case of the hour record, they wouldn’t be that much different, what changed is the riding position, the only substainal improvements to that record have come from the bikes not the rider, boardmans UCI record was .02 percent faster.

I love how Greg explains it and it doesn’t sound like bullshit.

@lukaluka400

20 күн бұрын

It does sound stupid.

@oscarlindvall1053

15 күн бұрын

He is a good yapper.

the first thing i thought about was froome. those insane low gear attacks while staying in the saddle

@zigzagnemesist5074

Ай бұрын

That was his style, he’s always ridden like that.

@DetectiveTrupo203

Ай бұрын

Motor doping

Thats nonsense. Lance was the only guy with a high rpm and everyone else was using. Jan, pantani etc etc all had slow cadence.

@alaefarmestatesllc

Жыл бұрын

Facts! B4 lance, everyone was grinding. Greg is the biggest lance hater out there. It’s sad.

@TellusJD

Жыл бұрын

true, however there is something to it. The slow pedalstroke from the 80's and 90's has long since been thrown out. The thing about Armstrong he was just too heavy to be a climber. Only EPO could solve that - he had 19 Kgs on pantani, and 3-4 kg on Jan ulrich. Jan was already heavy, but that means in order to climb he had to put out somewhere between 450-500 watts sustained. That is why he found the high RPM best. as there is a certain amount of push that is optimal. Jan Ulrich with his slow pedalling was just tought from an old generation to do the big gear, so he never got away from it. But those heavy riders that had no buisness being best in the mountains, would optimally go high rpm, which only EPO can push for.

@freebird61885

Жыл бұрын

So, he’s calling Froome a dirty doper, then

@neilmckenna236

Жыл бұрын

@TellusJD pantani was using SO mych epo he was having to get up during the night to turn his legs on a trainer so his heart didn't stop ..... he was a small light man. Why didn't he destroy lance? Personally i honesty dont care. They were all using and using everything they could. Its wishful thinking that its not the case now. TP has a high cadence so i guess that is proof.

@creativity.studio4967

Жыл бұрын

​@neilmckenna236 Simple. EPO had very different effects on different riders body chemistry. Pantani didn't get the same 10% advantage from EPO as Lance did..

RPM 100 plus = that, not sure 🤔 Greg still needs to reference overgearing of 70s.

@DaveCM

3 ай бұрын

My knees remember well the small gear range from the 1980's and early 90's.

@user-br1up5vw4h

Ай бұрын

He’s talking about the hour record, which would be ran on a track bike so the point is kinda moot.

Climbing independence pass In Colorado sometime in the early 70s on my 63 paramount, his training group passed me like I was walking. And I was in great condition. Wonder to this day what the hell they were on. 😅😅 lol.

@chrishenry5945

10 күн бұрын

Everything

Lemond brought cycling to the mainstream. Iconic figure. Probably the greatest since mercx

Zip it, greg

Some people will never believe Lance was cheating and they're in these comments

@maxsievers8251

2 ай бұрын

Armstrong didn't cheat.

@riquelmeone

Ай бұрын

there is nothing left to believe. it’s facts. you don’t need to believe 1 plus 1 equals 2 either. it’s a fact. you can call it trolling at this point

@SmokeDrawRepeat

Ай бұрын

Lance Juiced but so did everyone he competed with.

@chriscopeland5672

Ай бұрын

Some will never believe Lemond is a crybaby loser

@bikeacrossamerica1965

Ай бұрын

The sad part is he was strong enough he did need to juice up. Someone I'm sure helped

In my opinion, the biggest sign of doping is athletes doing a ridiculous amount of volume, and looking like they just came back from a vacation. Tadej is very suspicious in this regard.

@iwearLingerie

11 күн бұрын

Awww you cry like big baby

@markcarmichael7141

10 күн бұрын

Read what people say when Tadej is accused of doping: they say exactly what I used to say when trying to defend Armstrong. I'm convinced he's dirty because no one is that much better than everyone else. Tadej could've won't this TdF by 30 minutes if he'd wanted to. He gifted that one stage to Jonas - probably to make him look better, but it was a show.

It’s so easy to spot the dopers, the leader, the chase group, the peloton and the stragglers are all juicing, even cat 3 racers.

@TDubya811

Ай бұрын

Plus the spectators, camera crews and you tube commentators 90% of them are on the juice.

@cheeng1

Ай бұрын

The entire peloton is juicing in some form or fashion, simply cannot compete if they don’t. Practically all professional sports are doping, heck it’s happening in HS now.

why don't the bikes get examined after race

@Mike0

11 ай бұрын

They do, and before

@TheSHAD0W93

10 ай бұрын

@@Mike0only some do, not all

@richardmiddleton7770

26 күн бұрын

Each rider has about 3 bikes, that's 500-600 bikes to check twice a day! They only get randomly checked as a deterant and having said that, the checks are probably only for show aswell.

I'm an amateur, not even racing, not very fast compared to the skilled elite amateurs, but I'm fastest at about 100 rpm. Just works for my body when climbing.

@DB-ez9ud

2 ай бұрын

Yep, I’m a nobody and climb best around 95-100

@JackY-pu5nh

2 ай бұрын

Wow that’s great, I can only do about 65-75 rpm when climbing on my steel road bike.

@user-br1up5vw4h

Ай бұрын

I’m a heavy 75-90, I’m a big guy that raced BMX as kid so that suits my muscles, I’m about as fast as a guy that ran cross country growing up in my local rides, but he spins like a psycho, we ride completely different bikes too lol.

@lemansz

Ай бұрын

Must be juicing says Greg 🙄

Leave it to the "eating is cheating" era cyclists.

Did anyone else think of Armstrong when Pogi crossed the line holding up 4 fingers?!

@biffmarcum5014

25 күн бұрын

yeah, honestly the thought that came to my mind was someone owes Lance Armstrong an apology.

@Raor1820

24 күн бұрын

I had exactly same feeling. Also riding with one hand. Barely breaking a sweat while the rest is suffering etc.

@stanislouse4168

24 күн бұрын

@@Raor1820 20 minute spread between 1st to 4th!!!

@messier7849

20 күн бұрын

No suffering.😐

@NixonsFarm

17 күн бұрын

Yes, I thought that that was unfortunate.

A lot of riders come from different disciplines such as pidcock. Things change

What does he mean by motor? Literally? As in hidden electronics within the frame?

@ALSNewsNow

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Watch 60 minutes

@lloydhlavac6807

2 ай бұрын

Yes, hidden within the frame. It's been demonstrated.

@bobfeller604

2 ай бұрын

@@lloydhlavac6807 Wow, what a pack of cheats.

@mattmcdowell5225

Ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqOEm6t6ZtLgmqQ.html

@mattmcdowell5225

Ай бұрын

And this was from 8 years ago

Lemond, Mercx, Hinault, Kelly, Roche, pogdagar, Armstrong.....These probably the premier division

Such a shiit, I rode myself at 105 RPM at 400 watts and that is nothing incredible to do. Guys who have no idea in modern training methods should not comment such things.

I love Greg. My favorite road cyclists of all time .

@mnmarcus4070

11 ай бұрын

Thank you, he deserves fans like you

Had the pleasure of meeting Grey and chatting with, grest guy.

LeMond keeps talking about mechanical doping. Was there some recent development that I've missed? Last time I've looked into the topic, the consensus was that the motors were too small to generate the torque necessary for the system to be useful. Also, the system generated obvious noise, the battery life was about 30 minutes and when it ran out, you'd get a weight penalty of several kilograms.

@tristanguillemette6777

Жыл бұрын

Hence the bike change

@creativity.studio4967

Жыл бұрын

Riders changed bikes 4 to 5 times during the stages in question. Simple

@eto2352

Жыл бұрын

hidden downtube vivax motor capable of 200W. The UCI takes it seriously and checks bikes all the time.

@discbrakefan

Жыл бұрын

You would only need 50-60W of power and 30 mins would be more than enough for one guy to get a big advantage over another

@rh_BOSS

Жыл бұрын

@@discbrakefan I'm still waiting for people to point me to some actual info. All I've read so far were same old rumors. Were there ever any cases of a pro swapping bikes, then immediately having a monster performance for 30 minutes? Because the doped bike would be too heavy to ride when the motor isn't active.

LeMond knows sooo much about everybody else's doping. What does that tell you?

@stanislouse4168

24 күн бұрын

he thought EPO was a good idea.

@javatites4201

16 күн бұрын

takes one to know one.....maybe..?

They are all using. Greg needs to get over it.

time+watts have a higher requirement, so its normal to see 95+ even 105

And Ulrich? All the best time trial results are from around 100 cadence! Correct??

@stanislouse4168

24 күн бұрын

or higher 110+++

@CTQLF

3 күн бұрын

What was Ulrich's cadence, 75 ish?!

@hunters641

2 күн бұрын

@@CTQLF only one example, I’m referring to the majority. Ulrich was a grinder ✔️

Yo what is ice spice doing in the bottom

@horse-4598

6 ай бұрын

Lol 😂

Greg is jealous

Never figured Lemond for an idiot, but there you go. Clearly some things (cranks, gears...) changed since his day.

LeMond was my childhood idol, but he just cannot grow old gracefully. Instead of keeping in shape, he accuses current stars from Armstrong to Padej of doping. Just let it go and get back in shape Greg

@p.l.diablo9864

12 күн бұрын

Clearly you know absolutely nothing about Greg or cycling or the dopers. The ignorance and arrogance with your statement is amazing. Why don't you actually look up Greg's accomplishments. Instead of making baseless and factless comments. You must've been born yesterday. It's surreal to such cognitive dissonance.

Greg juiced too

Why does he STILL keep doing these hit podcasts? Nobody here really believes blood doping is over today, right?

It was probaly in the 80s. Not sure.? Anyway one bike had 65 stradas on the Bianchi and 70 stradas on the paramont that caused a big fight 2600 miles into the ride. I said fine I'll ride the bike with the different lengh crank. BIG DEAL.😢

It is these sort of ludicrous comments where I lose total respect for a dinosaur in cycling. I'd bet a paycheck or 2 that Lemond did his fair share of PED's.

@santiagobenites

2 ай бұрын

More stupid allegations without a shred of evidence.

@boblatkey7160

2 ай бұрын

You're full of shit

Somebody sounds bitter. So if a once in a lifetime physical phenom comes along and he is hitting higher rpms then greg says hes juicing. Hell of a note there.

So basically all juniors are doping?

Considering that pro biking has had decades of various doping schemes going on, I don’t know how they can compare anyone. 😂

Greg’s the fucking best.

@redryder1146

Ай бұрын

No, that would be Eddie Merckx or Miguel Indurain!!!!

@senojleoj

Ай бұрын

@@redryder1146 - Ew no, how can you even say that, disgraceful behaviour, obviously it was Greg Pantani.

Funny thing with Greg Lemond is that when EPO went into clinical trials in his backyard he tripled his point scoring and when EPO had been commercially available for 16 months he dropped like a stone. EPO was not illegal when "clean Greg" rode, and Hematocritic values were a free for al until 1997. Because Greg Lemond was not tested, and even Riis that EPOed 4000u every other day was legal it is such BS to hear sanctimonious Greg!

Oh Greg Lemond. Dying to be relevant. Always the bridesmaid, never the GOAT

Soo this is why pogi uses big chain ring,so he doesn’t have to have that high rpm and get caught

Hmmmmm pot calling the kettle black….id say he’s just as dirty, he can open his mouth now cause statue of limitation is past and can you imagine the scandal it will cause😂😂😂

CHRIS FROOME! MR JUICER 🥵🥵🥵🥵

I say let them body dope but not mechanical dope. Might aswell do moto-cross if you gonna mechanical dope

LeMond looks like a Mafioso.

There needs to be a competition where the only award is being the best at it and maybe people won't spend so much money on trying to cheat

LeBron Juice

Poor Greg spent his life in Lance shadow and sounds like he will die in it. Old gray and bitter.

He looks like marcus ruhl

Techs moved on and he's still staying in the past.

Merckx was also on drugs. Well documented

@Garrystephens92

3 ай бұрын

Amphetamines mainly because it wasn't strongly policed

Greg is just sour grapes!

Doping adds 3 to 10 percent or more to an athlete’s performance depending on the method. Krists Neilands, the 50th place finisher of the 2023 TDF, finished 2 hours 56 minutes behind Jonas Vingegaard winning time of 82 hours 5 minutes - a time difference just above 3%. They all are either clean or doping.

Much as I adore Lemond this is nonsense Look at Sergei Gonchar or Jan Ulrich, both juiced up gear grinders

@peters.8094

Жыл бұрын

You need to research

@MrDominicharrison

Жыл бұрын

@@peters.8094 go on tell me, I’m a medical dr with another degree in physiology

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1

9 ай бұрын

Gonchar might have had the most painful pedalling style of all time lol

Yeah. Old men always stand between society and progress. Chapeau LeMond, but it's not your time anymore.

Lemond and Armstrong are old men now , let them go for an undulating 100 bike ride and see who’s the better natural athlete. Your a real sheep if you think Lemond won the tour clean

@alexnora8210

3 ай бұрын

Armstrong, natural??? kkkkkk

@bobfeller604

2 ай бұрын

Does anyone at this point? They all sound like a pack of cheats.

@JackY-pu5nh

2 ай бұрын

Clean-er

@akrogirl32

Ай бұрын

@@bobfeller604that is the case with most pro athletes these days, sad to say. It is just easier to pick on cyclists.

@stanislouse4168

24 күн бұрын

@@alexnora8210 he didn;t say that

fascinating when real riders talk mechanics

I was able to do 425 watts for over 20 min and I was good but not like those dudes. I’m sure guys can do over 460 watts for an hour…

@stanislouse4168

24 күн бұрын

over 500

Power outputs are over 600 watts now

@ivanboesky1520

2 ай бұрын

Not sustained on climbs they aren’t clown.😀

@Hirohito_iLoveYou

2 ай бұрын

On climbs??

@tommaguzzi1723

2 ай бұрын

@@Hirohito_iLoveYou in the 2015 Vuelta a España, Tom Dumoulin, a professional time trialist, averaged 508.2 watts over a 5:55-minute climb, equating to 7.0 W/kg. While he was an elite level pro and won the Giro d'Italia and nine stages across the three Grand Tours that was 9 years ago and he is not on the same level as Pogacar or Vingegaard.

Greg is fantastic

@nishiki7047

3 ай бұрын

Really ? He’s about as popular as a saddle sore among current and ex pro cyclists

without epo it would be like watching in slow motion.

Used to have a lot of respect for you as a person but now you’re just making accusations and harming people. And how did you win against Lauren Fingon if he was doping and you weren’t?

GOAT

I find it so rewarding to hear this from Greg LeMond. I do think that the Bill Burr routine on Conan about Lance is awesome too. I do actually hate Lance for doing the "Dodgeball" speech in children cancer wards.

@chickey333

2 ай бұрын

Do you mean... "our roided guy vs your roided guy?"

Greg is literally the last biking great that can talk about this because he’s the only rider we know did his thing clean. Great champion great neighbor as well.

@matthewheinicke-peart3552

29 күн бұрын

Greg for sure doped

@Lovetheducks

29 күн бұрын

@@matthewheinicke-peart3552 he absolutely didn’t he was my parents neighbor and he was not a doper. He was so against all that kind of stuff. I mean you never know what someone is up to in private but I don’t believe for a second he would dope. I’ve never even heard him be accused of it. Just the opposite. He is a very good guy and I would be shocked if he ever touched the stuff. He lived such a boring clean lifestyle. If I remember he was quite religious as well not that it mattered. We were his neighbor in rancho murieta and knew him very well.

@matthewheinicke-peart3552

29 күн бұрын

@@Lovetheducks you think Lance went around telling his neighbors he doped? Stop living in a fairy tale

@matthewheinicke-peart3552

29 күн бұрын

@@Lovetheducks you’re right, his clean lifestyle was behind his win against admitted doper Laurent Fignon!

@Lovetheducks

29 күн бұрын

@@matthewheinicke-peart3552 I didn’t say that lance is a douche everyone that knows him would agree. Nobody was surprised he was doping. I’m saying nobody has ever accused Greg of doping in fact the exact opposite. People go to him as an example of a clean rider. Nobody has ever accused him of it either. He didn’t touch alcohol none of that. I said nobody knows what someone does in private but never has someone came out and said he used. You have to get stuff from someone know how to administer it etc. it would have taken a team of people. Yet nobody has ever came forward with accusations. Somebody would have for the money. His fellow riders have always said he was clean. Nobody except apparently you thinks he did

85-90!!!!!??? Jesus! Try 68-72 for me!! Lol

I thought all pros dope

Chris Froome high pedaling cadence

I dunno Greg. If you are a physical phenom which Armstrong IS (don't act like he isn't) it's just who he is. He was already GREAT and juicing just made him more of a GREAT machine. Juicing doesn't equal higher RPM's ect. It's just a style. He played to his strengths which was already a very impressive lactate threshold. Born with it.

@jono1457-qd9ft

6 ай бұрын

Both Lance and Greg had the same VO2max. So why does Greg exaggerate his numbers wildly? It's childish.

@geoffreyfaltot1006

6 ай бұрын

@@jono1457-qd9ft it’s wild. People act like these cyclist are fast because they cheat. When really they could beat anybody no drugs because they’re all really gifted. Armstrong was the best of the best talking numbers. Pure stats. People forget this.

@vladipp2850

4 ай бұрын

@@jono1457-qd9ft Armstrong's V02Max was in the very low 80s, Lemond's was in the mid-90s...

@TwentyTwenty90

4 ай бұрын

​@@jono1457-qd9ft Not even remotely true

@wvu05

4 ай бұрын

​@@jono1457-qd9ft Yes, because 78 and 92 are pretty much the same number. Who's paying you to spread such nonsense?

greg lemond........the most bitter and disgruntled former pro cyclist.

Lemonds entire identity has now become Lance Armstrong. He is still 100% obsessed with him. This comes across as definition of a stalker 😅

We have seen that last Saturday.... Oops...

So, since Merckx, Boradman and other one-hour record makers were at 102-103 RPMs they were doping?? Sounds like this is what Greg's saying since he first says the guys now are doing only up to 95 RPM and that's OK, but that Lance was doing higher revs, like Merckx/Boardman et alia did on their one-hour records, and that means Lance was doped. I don't think Greg's making much of case here for detecting doping by looking at RPMs vs power. He's going to need a lot more and better data.

@HkFinn83

Жыл бұрын

The natural cadence is higher on the track, when you start seeing riding accelerate at 100-110 on a climb it’s suspicious

@TC-ik9kn

Жыл бұрын

On track is higher he says on the full video, he also gives a good insight on oxigen consumption/absorption and how that leverages the real capacity of an athlete,

@Avianthro

Жыл бұрын

@@HkFinn83 As an engineer, but not a sports physiologist, I have to say that it sounds to me like there's an RPM for a certain power output that gives the best efficiency for a one-hour TT...so that energy used by the body in producing those 430 Watts or so to drive the bike is not too high for one to endure for an hour. This would be similar to the efficiency of most types of engines. So, it doesn't matter what portion of one's power is being used for climbing or for aerodynamic drag. All that matters is the total power output and for any power output to the pedals there's a combination of torque and RPM that gives highest efficiency. One can change to a smaller gear ratio on a climb, decrease torque, and increase one's RPMs up to 100+ and thereby be more efficient...leave other riders behind for the same amount of body power or keep up with them using less...you are making more pedal power per unit of power being produced inside the body...Keep in mind always that pedal power is not equal to body power, just as the thermal power inside an engine is not equal to the power from its driveshaft.

@HkFinn83

Жыл бұрын

@@Avianthro it makes a huge difference. Lower cadences make more demand on muscular endurance, higher cadence on the pulmonary/cardiovascular systems. Doping (the type that cyclists do) increases red blood cell count unnaturally and allows them to spin at unnaturally high rates, which saves the legs. You can test it for yourself, go and spin a small climbing gear on the flat at a low power but high cadence and you can blow yourself up easily while your actual power is very low.

@Ashok_Regiment

Жыл бұрын

no you have to listen to the whole segment, he says that on the flat the optimal cadence is around 100-105 rpms, on the climbs it should drop around 15-20 rpms, if it doesn't it's fishy

Take's one to know one , greg your a doper 2

There's plenty of arguments to criticize Armstrong but this rpm angle is nonsense. Lemond doing anything he can to try and make his legacy look as good as possible.

@StevieD1x

8 ай бұрын

No.

@S9999Frank

3 ай бұрын

the rpm angle makes sense towards epo use, as higher rpm means higher need for oxygen, but lower stress on muscles, so with epo you can handle the higher rpm, without you run quickly out of air at a too high cadence.

@mattd6593

2 ай бұрын

@@S9999Frank First person in this entire comment thread who understands this very simple fact of physiology.

whaaaaaat is there Doping in cycling

@michaelr.8402

3 ай бұрын

never ;)

It absolutely should not be ruled out that Lance’s high cadence was because he also motor-doped. I would bet $$$ he used motors.

@trekkeruss

10 ай бұрын

Impossible. E-bike technology 20 years ago was crude. There would have been nowhere to hide a motor, let alone a battery.

@jono1457-qd9ft

8 ай бұрын

He didn't use motors. He and Greg had similar abilities. They both had amazing journeys through the sport and through life. The psychological warfare is part of the game, but to continue it late in life is not a way to help yourself or anyone.

@E4RLIES

7 ай бұрын

@@jono1457-qd9ftI’d be wary of making comparisons between the only American to win the TDF and the greatest cheat of all time 😬

@geoffreyfaltot1006

6 ай бұрын

People forget that Lance was an absolute FREAK in endurance sports. Doping was the 11th step in a 10 step process to success.

@geoffreyfaltot1006

6 ай бұрын

Right. People forget that Armstrong was an absolute physical specimen in the endurance sport world. He was genetically gifted. Flat out. Doping helped him but didn't take an average bloke and make him win the freaking TDF. @@jono1457-qd9ft

Bitter old man

But he did improve his pedal stroke. Besides who cares? 80% of pro cycling is doping even the guy who finishes 82 in the TDF. There is absolutely no proof that doping is the difference between 1st and 82nd. If you could eliminate doping the GC wouldn’t change. Even Jan Ulrich said doping wasn’t the difference. And then he eventually admitted to it himself. Greg is still mad many consider L A a better athlete.

@rawmancemtb

11 ай бұрын

That's not how any of it works. Doping is a performance advantage. To pretend it doesn't matter is just pure stipidity. Everyone has different genetics. Someone not capable of the highest level can patch up their flaws in certain areas. So no it also doesn't work that you remove doping and it's all the same. Jan Ulrich saying a damb thing doesn't make it smart. There is absolute proof that you can't compete against people doping when you aren't. And he is rightfully mad to be cheated.

@tjones2112

11 ай бұрын

Not necessarily true at all, some riders get more of a benefit of doping than others. Bodies react differently. The gains some get will be huge compared to others, calling it a level playing field is naive

@sillypuddystl2907

11 ай бұрын

@@tjones2112 Ridiculous. I raced from ‘92 to ‘05. No doughtI finished ahead of guys that were using and behind guys who were clean. That’s just as silly as guys who think that a Frameset A is 2.3% faster than Frameset B. Or your Wheelset that weighs 1500gm is the reason your not climbing faster so now you need a set that weighs 1462gm. Any their 3 domestic pro could be on a 20lb bike and drop us both on our best days. Wether he’s doping or not!

@tjones2112

11 ай бұрын

Weird irrelevant flex but okay

@rawmancemtb

11 ай бұрын

@@sillypuddystl2907 I don't know how someone can be this ignorant. Doping is nothing like having a 70 gram difference in wheels. It's a massive advantage. You have to really not understand anything about what doping is to say what you are saying. It's really brain dead comparison to compare someone who trains for their profession to someone who doesn't. Can you actually be this stubid.

Im sick honestly of this guy making his life the doping I quit story im sick of seeing him only talking about doping blah blah blah no one stopped watching then we still watch now

This man rode professionally and thinks high cadence on a climb = doping? How about being in a lower gear… Also, if you guys think that Lemond was clean when he won the tour, I’ve got some beachfront property in Kansas I’d like to sell ya

@albr4

18 күн бұрын

yeah it's a weird take, Back in his day they used to ride at lower RPMs because they didn't have the gears and groupsets they have now, now they ride at high RPMs because people discovered that higher cadence is more efficient and reduces muscular fatigue "spin to win".

bro greg has such a poor understanding of cycling and performance metrics lmao

"My favorite line is "... between 102 and 103 RPM's." So, 102.5 RPM? Is that it?

@WithBACON

7 ай бұрын

Sure, that makes sense. It is, after all, an hour record (60 minutes).

@Bipolar.Baddie

2 ай бұрын

Revolutions aren't instantaneous and thus don't need to be whole numbers. Leap years exist because each year is 365.25 days

Euhm...Sorry but this is just clickbait. Very simple and irrelevant.

Goat - Lemond.

uhhhhhh. WRONG.............

So much b.. s.. need clarification on everything from this guys mouth

Some will do anything for publicity...hating on Armstrong is money.. Lance still rules the conversation.

This guy is a cheat

Pure BS from a guy who’s bike doesn’t sell as well as everyone else hence the hating. Only him is not cheating according to him

@chaosengine3772

11 ай бұрын

Haters will always be hating.

@StevieD1x

8 ай бұрын

If he cheated at least he wasn't dumb enough to get caught.

Lance beat a bunch of other dopers BAD. So what? Winning SEVEN 21 stage tours is still the greatest sporting achievement of all time. Name another sport that was so thoroughly dominated. Maybe Phelps? Hmmm.....

@hoebertrabeck1621

2 ай бұрын

alexander karelin. discussion ends here

Greg stop smelling glue , you speak a load of nonsense

The guy doesn't know what he is talking about

@geoffreyfaltot1006

6 ай бұрын

right, i hear this and i'm like "na. He's just talking."

@Slow.Smooth

2 ай бұрын

Yeah this dude is just yapping

old and frustrated person