Got that same cymbal and had the same bell/edge problem on an Alesis Strike module, I opened it up and found two piezo plug connectors, I flipped the two plugs and all good👍 not bad cymbals

@Evocati-Augusti

2 жыл бұрын

is there a cheap ride that has a bell trigger?or any.. thanks

@Tony-fx9ky

Жыл бұрын

@@Evocati-Augusti the lemon 18imch is pretty good for the money

@drmoze

5 ай бұрын

@Evocati-Augusti ​This is a cheap/inexpensive ride that has a bell trigger.​

I laughed at the lemon joke more than I should've.

@Beefnhammer

3 жыл бұрын

The dry delivery is what did it for me

Hi Justin, you can unscrew the part below and reverse the connectors ... problem solved in 5 minutes!

I have 5 of these, 4 as crashes one as a ride, all of them had the bell/edge reversed for a ride, however it is a very easy fix, if you pop the cover off the bottom of them there is a simple little white 2 pin plug coming from the piezo that just needs to be swapped to the opposite socket. They are a great cheap alternative to the name brand units.

I've been interested in them. Thanks for the review.

Somehow, I want to revitalize my sleeping drumming heart just for this cymbals alone! I would say better than most in value and sheer awesomeness! Thanks for this review!

Good balanced and honest feedback! Given the price it is at, it is worth it!

Very nice! Heard it played at my nephew's studio! Awesome sound!

Now I know the next purchase for my studio number 3. Thanks so much for this review. R🤟🤟🤟 🥁

I have two of these cymbals and they work well. There are a lot of videos that talk about the triggering issue and how to fix it (internal cabling issue). I didn't have any issues, I just plugged them in and they worked. I am only using these cymbals as two zone crash and so far they seem to work just as well as the Roland cymbals I own. So far I am happy with them, we shall see how long they last over time.

I have several Lemon cymbals/rides that work as they should. And, important, the bell zone trigger good. Far better than the CY-13R where it is more like hit and miss... I ended up selling all my Roland cymbals, repacing them with Lemon cymbals all around (I have 3 kits).

@eduardotrejo1445

3 ай бұрын

Hey bro I wanna buy the 18 inch. Would you recommend?? Roland's is 3x the price!!

@EirikHasselberg

3 ай бұрын

@@eduardotrejo1445 I like the Lemon and it is great for the price. No need to fork out for the Roland.

I'm waiting for these for a long time😁

I have bought my Lemon Cymbals from Gabby also. He is a nice seller. Never got tired of my endless questions.

@bryanaguirre5492

3 жыл бұрын

Same!!!

It's so absurdly thick! Great video as always Justin.

I've been using mine as a ride for several months and its flawless

Just to give out my words on the negative sides of this, I and Justin actually talked if I would give him another cymbal. I believe the cymbal was routed correctly and it was with compatibility with “Higher” Flagship line models. It also happens with the Pearl Mimic (I wonder if it also is the issue with a TD50) I also asked Justin if he had like a TD17 lying around just to see if it was just because of a compatibility issue. Unfornuately, he has none. So we just preceeded and I asked him to give his honest feed back on the cymbal. Again, i think the cymbal is properly routed and also the module. I believe it is a compatibility issue with the TD30, Pearl minic (and others if there are) Thanks again!

@brosefmcman8264

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Gabby I’m interested in purchasing one of these cymbals and wanted know how I can set up a purchase for it and the cables

@gabbybernardo9241

3 жыл бұрын

@@brosefmcman8264 Hi, sir! You can email us at lemoncymbals@gmail.com

@brosefmcman8264

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome I will be in touch

@gabbybernardo9241

3 жыл бұрын

@@brosefmcman8264 Sure!

I bought from the email also.We have this Cymbal, it is great!

Hi Justin, thanks a lot for your content. It is very informative. BTW I see your "dusty" grayed out cymbals. :) For me it's like like, they are looking cheap, even though they are definitely not. I always use such car cockpit products. And treating my cheap Millenium cymbals with that they look great...

Gabby Bernardo and 65 drum,thanks for the cymbal review. I order and I try the Ride 16 inch. Loved, no need change cables all work 100% out of box.. I have a Roland td11 and dont work first try, but I go to settings module select PADS now change normal crash CY12C pad to CY15R is a Ride cymbal for roland.. problem solved.

I have a couple of 16” and 14” Lemons using with my TD17. Works well and happy with them.

@aryanmohapatra9984

3 жыл бұрын

How does ot compare with a roland cy15r. Is it worth it's money. Any, Diadvantages

@ben_ide

3 жыл бұрын

@@aryanmohapatra9984 I have Roland CY15R and CY14 also and for me I like the Lemon 16” better and find I get better bell and edge response with the Lemons. I am a lighter player though so they may just better suit my playing style. I think for the price of these they are worth trying out.

@aryanmohapatra9984

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Will try them out👍

@gordonjeffrey8616

3 жыл бұрын

Did you leave the pad settings as CY-15R? I'm having trouble getting my Lemon edges to trigger. If I strike the last inch of the top with the top of the stick it triggers the edge, but if I strike the actual edge with the side of the stick it triggers the bow!

Pinch the bell made me chuckle ...ok I know ...so I never grew up 🤣. The lemon gag was pretty funny dude 👍

Hi Justin love your reviews I was wondering if you could tell me if you think these Lemon cymbals would work good with a Roland TD-4 module thanks 🤔🤗?

Thank you for this!

I’ve been wanting to buy this as a gift for my son. Now i know it is worth it thanks for the review!

@gabbybernardo9241

3 жыл бұрын

Make your son happy now

@ethankeadle9745

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabbybernardo9241 this is an intriguing deal just that i dont know anything about Alibaba.

Nice review Justin!!

Wiring issue aside (like someone mentioned, probably pre configured for Alesis) they look like decent and well priced for anyone after another cymbal but doesn't want to pay Roland prices new or second hand. The only question is how long will they hold out. Only time will tell but sure, they look decent. The underside looks very Alesis... so I am wondering of they're actually rebranded Medelli or something.

Hello ! Great review thanks 👍👍👍

Hey Justin. Do you think lemon could be a cheap alternative to the main stream brands with acceptable price to quality ratio? Will you review their drum pads as well? It looks promising.

Hello, I have 2 questions: 1. Do these Lemon kits work good with DAWS as Pro Tools, Cubase or Logic Pro?? 2. How good is the velocity?? Do they sound kinda natural? Thanks!

Does the td17 crash2(Ride) can use one cable for these lemon cymbals? Do we need to use splitters and what splitters is compatible?

I've been looking for some very low budget cymbals like this to add to my Megadrum. I've got about 10 spare inputs and a whole lotta useless sound to be able to play

Great cymbals for its price!!! Thank you for the review

Hello Justin Can you please make video for those budget minded drummers on how to connect ezdrum and to know which audio interface will work best. Ty

Hi. I'm also a singer/guitarist wanting to explore drums. Been doing A LOT of research. I'm thinking either Alesis Forge or Behringer SD80. Does this work on the forge?

Have you done a review of the NUX DM7?...I've been seeing them lately pop up.

I would open the cymbal and swap the connectors inside. Probably the Edge and Bell sensor wiring is inverted

Hey, what do u think about the E-Rubber-Cymbals from Jobeky? Are they as good as Roland cymbals?

Hi, do you have any reviews for Lemon toms/snare?

You talked about rubber thickness, but how is the overall thickness and weight of the whole cymbal?

I think it would be better to get it off the email Justin said. I got mine and it works great! The bell is actually bigger than the Rolands, it is also more sensitive. Worth every penny!

@Tammadrummer1337

3 жыл бұрын

how much was it though

@joshkelsch445

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tammadrummer1337 I'm awaiting word from Gabby, but it appears you can get two 16" triple zones off Alibaba for about $150. They're also advertised on Reverb for $150 shipped each for the same 16".

I have not seen this guys face😅. But thanks for that video. Might get this cymbal

Nice review!

Anyone knows if this ride is compatible with Millenium modules (MPS-750X specifically)?

Does the lemon ride work with alesis module

If i use special connector cable, can i use it with Yamaha?

Good quality cymbals! Much recommended!

Oh damn, of all the cymbals to send you! Had to be a malfunctioning one! “Lemon” lol

Can this work with the tourtech 22-M Module?

Lemon Cymbals is one of the recommended e-cymbal here in PH🇵🇭

@tojirodrums3968

3 жыл бұрын

Boss san makakabili niyan

@EdwardJ_drums

3 жыл бұрын

@@tojirodrums3968 kuys sali ka po sa Edrums - Philippines FB Group madami po nag bebenta dun

@tojirodrums3968

3 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardJ_drums Salamat

@mandomandorukot

3 жыл бұрын

You can get a better price if you buy them directly from alibaba or even in lazada

That's so bizarre how the bell chokes, haha. Just out of curiosity, did you ever try a different module? I have used mine now on a TD-17, TD-27, and TD-8 (in conjunction with the aux input) and it works on all three.

@65Drums

3 жыл бұрын

All my other modules aren't roland style so I couldn't test it on a second module. But my TD30 isn't broken, works with ATV and Roland rides all time

@demonicsweaters

3 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums yeah, seems you just got a bum cymbal. Thanks for all the great info!

Does this work on carlsbro csd400?

Question: Lemon makes pads too, have you tried them? They have a 10" pad for like 60 bucks, dual trigger.

@65Drums

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I haven't

“So my unit is a LEMON”- 😁👍 lol

Is it compatible to roland td 17k?

Can you have these 3 zone cymbals to replace all the crashes and the ride?? In general and if you can tell me if I can do this with a Roland TD-11? THANK YOU!!!

@illenick

5 ай бұрын

Meaning can you have all 3 zones of the two crashes and the ride on the td-11? Thanks!!

Very good deal! Excellent quality for its price 👍👍👍

I think this cymbal with its price is really worth it. Thank You

So, if I were replacing 2 cy8's that stopped edge sensing at the same time on my TD17 kv, I should, barring major anomalies, be alright? My Cy's are....oh.... 13 months old. Yeah.... And are messing up, and that's kinda because I'm a pretty hard hitter. What do you te about the overall construction for a hard player? Hopefully it'll work out better than my strike ride did. That pos made it about 2 weeks. Bought off of eBay as brand new, and possibly was, but it had the dreaded bell bye bye disease, and I just didn't feel like dealing with the hassle of trying to get it replaced, and went back to the layered bow zone bell, and have a nice day. I would consider all 3 cymbals be replaced with these, since they're cheap, but at the same time, jobecky is also cheap, but seems to be maybe a safer bet. Recommends on me using these as crashes and/or ride, and on jobecky in general?

@bryanaguirre5492

3 жыл бұрын

I think you would love them as I have. Especially for its price! The material is better than my Alesis ones before

So I am going to talk about the Lemon 16 inch triple zone cymbal I received yesterday. My 1st impression upon holding it was it seemed lighter and thinner Then the Roland cy-13 I am used to. This I liked. Also no imperfections or damage so the product is clean, and manufactured well. Upon putting it up and plugging it in, I was excited to have this 16 inch cymbals footprint take up the real-estate the cy-13 did not. All 3 zones are as, if not more responsive than the cy-13. Feel is also similar. A noticeable upgrade on the Lemon cymbal is the bigger bell surface. Very comfortable to play and very expressive. Triggering is accurate and dynamics are there. If there's one improvement to be made, it would be the cymbal choke. I wasn't able to get a solid stop in cymbal sound when choking the edge, but it does choke, just not as sharp. Beyond that I am super satisfied with this cymbal. I am also a fan of the price. Considering the ATV 16 inch goes for 500 plus dollars. Sometimes, we take chances with our purchasing power. I was ready to be underwhelmed or disappointed. I am pleased to say the gamble paid off. This is a great cymbal, and a tremendous deal. I was able to purchase this from one of our members Gabby, for 118.00 plus 70.00 shipping . Anyone who is interested in bigger cymbals and lower cost ,while getting top performance needs to check out this Lemon 16 inch triple zone cymbal for sure !.

@jrepp11

3 жыл бұрын

From several months ago.

@jrepp11

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not paid either.

@jrepp11

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry 15 and 3/8ths

If theyre affordable then im interested, roland ones are too much money. I usually only play a few preset kits anyways, so reconfiguring the zones wouldnt be a big deal.

@demonocusmetalocus3558

3 жыл бұрын

When you consider roland cymbals last for years roland cymbals are actually quite cheap compared to other cymbals that last a year if you are lucky. I have roland cymbals that are12 years old and still work perfect.

@andrewdelrusso4951

3 жыл бұрын

@@demonocusmetalocus3558 Thats cool, but still doesnt change the fact that the upfront investment cost is out of my price range.

@Vv2legit2quitvV

3 жыл бұрын

@@demonocusmetalocus3558 any decent e-drum cymbal lasts for years. Stop justifying Roland's overpricing just because you're a fanboy lmao. Besides, the actual sensor is like $10 to replace completely

@SuperVistaprint

3 жыл бұрын

30-40 bucks a piece so not nothing still rather cheap. if you want just a crash, no finesse playing - i still would say go to ebay or craigslist and shoot a used set and salvage the parts you need. (i used an old no name one for parts - the "cymbals" where trash but the pads were nice - so i rigged up the pads as symbels in a Rototom kind of arangement wont give you the "real deal feek" but they trigger sounds reliable)

The Discord link is not working. Can someone help me with a new link?

Hi Justin, great review again. Just one thing - those ports on the cymbal are OUTputs, not inputs. Information comes OUT of them. The ports on your module are INputs. Sorry, pet peeve.

@RUHDD4HVN

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input....... I mean output....... Thanks for caring....... ";^)

I like your hand gestures

How does the rubber feel? How hard do you have to strike it compared to roland cymabals? Does it wobble like a roland cymbal?

@bryanaguirre5492

3 жыл бұрын

It is actually fun to play with! It is more sensitive than Rolands in my POV

Worth considering for the price. At least for a crash/china/splash

This is a great cymbal for it's price!

Test the lemon t950 with a Roland kit

Good voice. Good context.

Hi Justin, it's from my DYI eDrum custom kit. There are different wiring schematics (as most know). However, it may be wired to Alesis' specs. Or the polarities on the switches are reversed. Sure there is a 50/50 chance while wiring. Yet the complexity doubles with three (Roland - Alesis wiring possibilities. Excluding Yamaha etc). Thanks again for supporting our drumming passion. King of eDrums is 65drums☝⭐😀

@DrMackSplackem

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the way the modules detect the bell switch from the edge switch is that one closes direct to ground and the other closes to ground through a 10k resistor. Alesis and Roland conventions have that resistor swapped.

@matenorth

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrMackSplackem No resistor is needed for roland modules. Roland relies on timing. If the piezo gets agitated at the same time one of the two switches closes, it assigns the corresponded zone.

@edrumsense

3 жыл бұрын

@@matenorth That is right. No resistors in Roland. Both the edge and the bell are Choke sensors. If one of them closes at the same time of the piezo trigger then it sends the corresponding zone. If none of the Bell or Edge gets closed then it detects the bow

@DrMackSplackem

3 жыл бұрын

@@edrumsense Interesting. I don't know anything about their new products like the digital ride, etc, but in the original Roland Vdrum patents, timing doesn't enter into the bell/bow/edge note selection equation. The only timing mentioned in the patents was for pads with positional sensing (no switches involved). There are three channels on a TRS jack. The output jack's tip transmits the piezo's vibration to the module, and the the ground (sleeve) channel completes the circuit, leaving the ring as either open or grounded within a window of time that is either inside or outside of the piezo's exitation exceeding the threshold required to trigger a NoteOn event. If it's just barely inside that time window, then it registers this as a strike on either the bell or edge zones and produces the corresponding MIDI note; if it comes later, it means a choke of that note has been performed, and this is communicated to the synth engine through poly aftertouch. This scheme can also produce a dampened note if the switch is pressed during the strike, though I'm not aware if Roland even recognizes this (other modern brains do, such as Megadrum). Thinking about this, I can see how Roland pads, with their dual output jacks, could clearly differentiate a bell hit vs. an edge hit, but this would be due to there being two discrete 'ring' conductors, one for bell and the other for bow. Again though, this has nothing to do with timing, and I can say that Megadrum has two cymbal triggering modes, one for Alesis and the other for Roland-style pads. Before this was implemented, if you had a reversal of expected zones, you needed to swap a resistor from one switch to another and it would work as intended. It could be the case that in the Roland's input circuitry, a 10k resistor from a closed switch to ground will increase the time-to-threshold for the switch to register as 'closed', but still be quick enough not to be mistaken for a 'choke', but then that makes Roland's dual jack design seem even more curious.

@inlasttonowhere4459

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrMackSplackem Outstanding answer. Thank you for you addition to my comment. What a great community, everyone is chill. I also wish I could highlight your comment. I even learned something from you, ✌. I've put together some of my own DYI cymbals with the Myrk switches and piezos. And reversed engineered what Roland/Hart Dynamics did with theirs. However, it's always been in the back of my mind that I hadn't gone deep enough, suspected that I was missing something that hadn't given me issues as of yet. Have you dug around with a Oscilloscope? Curious. In closing, the digital is nice yet it really becomes a proprietary components with little room for customization. 😀✌ peace

Great cymbal for the price👌🏻

whats the price for it tho

wow i might just buy them straight lol. by the way demonic sweater uses td8

Good shit for its price. Recommended 100%

Ever seen the Gunking brand cymbals? Look similar to Roland but in $100 range.

@theblackknight870

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely checking it out now! Thanks

A roland cymbal in my country costs at least 5 to 6 times the price of this one😢. Don't mind if i have to work on some resolvable issues. 😂😌. Mine is a td 17 module.

@gabbybernardo9241

3 жыл бұрын

We also use a td17, and it is perfect for it.

@aryanmohapatra9984

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info😁👌

Awesome review, shout out to Demonic Sweaters!!!!!! Great channel, he just released his own 10” acoustic/electronic snare on reverb.com its very cool check it out. Definitely considering buying one of these, will contact the email on screen for hooking up 65 drums Justin with the gear for a honest review. I already have a CY-15R this would be a nice size crash cymbals for my kit, my CY-12 is looking too small for my kit now

You're probably the last person that I would tell "you have the cables flipped around". I think you know what you're doing haha.

Im using this as my ride cymbal on my TD11 module works perfectly fine (bell, bow and edge). My only concern is, it's loud. But im happy with my lemon cymbal. I wish they have bigger sizes. Im not a seller of lemon though.

@suckphen1

3 жыл бұрын

Just adjust the sensetivity or the trigger gain level.

I'm currently using TD25 and Strike Multipad inputs for 3 additional Yamaha cymbals. (See here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X22grpWoYqS_d7w.html) I'd be interested to know if anyone else has these Lemon cymbals working ok with the TD25 ?

What’s it cost

How are these holding up over time? Thinking of buying them.

@65Drums

3 жыл бұрын

Mine hasn't broken yet. Can't say what I'll be like in 4 years, but so far so good.

@mikeespo3963

3 жыл бұрын

@@65Drums For the price I'll take 4/5 years!! Thx!!

Amazon sells them now.

I bough from the email also, it is doing well. 👍👍

Lemon cymbals might deserve another look. Ive heard they have improved.

Price???

Lemon vs cy15r ?

How much $ are they? Or did I miss that part? Thx for the review, happy drumming everyone!🤘🤘🤘

@ryansherman1952

3 жыл бұрын

16in 3 zone $115 14 in dual zone $85 12 in 3 zone $70 I paid $30 shipping for 4 cymbals.

@theblackknight870

3 жыл бұрын

Straight from alibaba buying with a 14 inch as well is cheaper from what I've seen

@joshkelsch445

3 жыл бұрын

You can get two 16" triple zone cymbals for about $150 shipped off Alibaba.

I think this will make a nice low cost crash on my a2e I'm doing soon

Almost bought this today. Glad i saw your review, im sticking to Roland

@bryanaguirre5492

3 жыл бұрын

I have both Roland and the Lemon ones with my TD 17 with the price, I think the Lemon ones are more worth it!

Watta cymbals, noice! 😃

perhaps

Looks you “ got a lemon “ lol 😂

Given that the wiring of the piezos of your particular cymbal were messed up at the factory, I'd say you got a ..... LEMON! HAHA!!!

@fuchsia5899

3 жыл бұрын

F

@007LSV

3 жыл бұрын

Pun intended lolol

@482jpsquared

3 жыл бұрын

@Derek Frampton aKa 1PaPaD1 Actually I heard that too, but it sounded like he didn't realize he used the term that is also the name. Maybe the joke's on Justin? Or maybe he's that good, so it's really on me?

@482jpsquared

3 жыл бұрын

@Derek Frampton aKa 1PaPaD1 Perhaps...maybe unintended as well.

When life gives you lemons, make a review video.

Ay sup Justin

Switch the internal wires…and it will work flawlessly…

Awesome! Now show reliable is Alibaba? Don’t no anything about it 🤷🏼

@65Drums

3 жыл бұрын

I review the gear, not the store lol. Any online store from China has an element of risk. If you don't want to take the risk, go by a Roland CY16 instead

Just open it up and swap the connection /shrug

"My unit was a Lemon." Why /did/ they chose to brand themselves "Lemon"?

Who knew that China is number one exporter of lemons!!!