I love my M Monochrom-I agree with everything you’ve mentioned but I rarely shoot wide open, so that’s not an issue for me personally. If you’re thinking about getting a monochrom, expose for the highlights lol it is not forgiving!

I was on the fence to get it. Your info was great. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Your videos these few days are truly give me nice break in everyday monotony .Thanks a lot 📸☺️

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Great Djordje! 10 more days left with a daily upload. 😊

@djordjeneskovic5857

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealsirrobin Thank you so much!!!

Interesting. “Liked.” Thanks for sharing this. I bought a pre-owned M Type 246 Monochrom, in 2018, after I had fumbled and dropped my still-new M10, from shoulder height. The Monochrom enabled me to “get back onto the horse that had thrown me,” and keep using the M system while my M10 was down, for repair. (Thankfully, my M10 had been wrapped inside a neoprene camera wrap, at the time of the mishap, which had provided some measure of protection.) I agree that the base ISO of 320 is a limitation, when shooting in bright daytime, but, so much of my shooting is in the evenings, and/or while stopped-down, so, this generation of the Monochrom is useful. In 2021, and again in 2022, I seriously considered “upgrading” to the M10 Monochrom, but, each time, decided to remain faithful to my 24MP “team” of M cameras. I did not abandon my DSLR equipment, so, the easy answer, for using lower ISO settings, in bright conditions, is to simply use a DSLR. My post-2022 budget is smaller, due to being fully retired. Rather than dream of more resolution in a digital M camera, I now think more about an MP that shoots 35mm film, though I have some wonderful Nikon SLR lenses, and Nikon 35mm SLRs upon which to use them.

Fascinating insight on the use of red filters with a rangefinder, I had no idea! Keep your videos coming, they are always instructive. Greetings

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Your images are wonderful. Just bought the Q2 Monochrom, hope I have a better experience. Thanks for sharing!

@MartinRoedl

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, how are you satisfied with the LQ2M? Do not you regret missing the colors?

I have found these videos very enlightening... just recently, I have been getting stunning mono results from my LUMIX GX9 camera set on its ... M-MONOCHROME-L setting.... yes! Is an M 4/3 but I don’t do huge prints.... I use...Panasonic/Leica and Olympus AF lenses... or one of my many vintage film camera lenses, zone focussed.... superb results...

This is the most valuable and honest review of a camera. Thanks for sharing with us the + and - of the Leica monochrome so we can evaluate if the camera is for us or not.

Love to hear this critical review of the camera with pros AND cons. I don't have the issue with color filters and metering on my Leica M6.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Martin. 👌 When u use a red filter you will have the same issue. However, it might be less visible when shooting film compared to a higher res digital sensor. Another factor is the aperture. When you shoot at f2 or even faster then the effect becomes more prominent.

Most of what you say applies to the entire digital M line. I’ve had many of those frustrations with my M240 since it came out. But there’s no denying that when the monochrome is spot on, those photos are a thing of beauty.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, when it's spot on the results are beautiful! 👌

Great video ! I also have an M6 for B+W and I love the film experience. Scanning with Epson V800 & Silverfast gives plenty of option to adjust contrast and brightness. Cheers!

Good move. I looked into the monochrome but ended up saving a bunch of $ and getting an MP240 instead to shoot next to my M6. Perfect combo and I’m very satisfied with the BW from the 240 if I need it.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

The 246 is still double the price of an M240 right now and might be a better buy for sure! 👌

I experienced the same issues with my M246 and after much back and forth, finally sold it with the intention of doing color conversion when I want B&W. I have the M10 and it does really nice B&W and of course, converting software is fantastic. I'm like you and would love an M10 monochrome but it's too expensive for an "every now and then" experience.

Fascinating insight .. at least you captured some wonderful images with it

Servus! Another great video. Thank you. I am here because I am considering buying this camera instead of an M3. Yes I know, two very different but I love your comment about the M6. I am also looking for a M6 ttl. Rock on!

Awesome Pictures! Thank you for the Video!!

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! 😊👌

Nice video. Do you have a video where you explain why you use a red filter ?

The photos are very good!

I agree with you. No point keeping something that expensive on the shelf. I think you made the right choice. I also returned my M10-D and just using my MP which I love! Nothing compares to a mechanical camera.

@jonflan691

3 жыл бұрын

I traded my m10 for an MA and the MA is in my hands whenever I have time to shoot !

I enjoy the content that you produce for the channel and photographic work well done. 👍 That said with respects to the traditional offset printing that you used for your Zine could you kindly tell which firm was use for it? Cheers! 🥃

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It's a local company here in Germany. It's the same one that printed my zine '28'. 👌

@Pezinokrm

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealsirrobin Thank you for your reply what is the name of the company in Germany that printed it?

tnx for the video, im curious as to why the red filter is affecting the rngefinder as the rangefinder is not connected to the lens? thank you again for a very informative video

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

I can't give you the exact explanation for it but it makes a significant difference as I had to find out.

@eddienugent2135

2 жыл бұрын

From memory you compared the range finder focus after using live view for critical focus. I think that you found that although you were happy with live view focus the range finder focus was out. I guess it could be the focus metering and which part of the live view screen you used. It would be good to know if your zone focus on the lense was suggesting you were ok. So looking for a focus point through the range finder will be in focus for a hyperfocal point.

Wouldn't the focusing problem with filter be exactly the same with the M6?

Great pictures!!!

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Curious to know what you think of this Q2 compared to other Leica monochrom cameras...great video as always man 👊

@therealsirrobin

3 жыл бұрын

It's my favorite of them by far!

Were these pictures mostly with the Ultron 35mm 1.7? Amazing tonality

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, most of them. 👌

That all said, your images taken with that camera were amazing.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Robert!

@absonus

3 ай бұрын

Yes .... very nice indeed .

My monochrom camera is my x-pro1. Yeah i know, its a color camera, but pictures with monochrom with red filter film simulation JPEGs are stunning IMO, and you still got the raw if you wanna tweak files afterward. Also, fuji lenses are very good.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

The Fuji files are great but it's hard to compare to the ones coming out of the monochrome. Especially higher ISOs out of the Monochrom insanely good.

Well explained

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Honest and true !

Von den Bildern, die du in diesem Video gezeigt hast, könntest du ein eigenes Buch machen. Wirklich cool. Wo wir bereits beim Thema sind: Auf Etsy sehe ich nur das Cover.... welche Bilder wird man sehen? P.S: habe bisher schon beide Bücher von dir gekauft. Das neue wird bald Bestellt!:)

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Danke dir! Bezüglich der Bilder lass dich einfach überraschen. 👌

und jetzt, Robin, nach die Q2 Monochrom da ist ... ? Back into B/W digital?

Your BW images are stunning! Film is nice, digital better.. Burnt out highlights a common factor on modern films. I used friend's Monochrome (back from sensor exchange 13 months). It was nice BUT not overwhelming.. I wouldn't tie up so much money in one, even newer models. My M3 is good enough. Using red-filters, one needs extra depth of field esp. in Infrared.

Leica Monochrom was my dream camera, second dream camera was Q. But I was dum to sell it. Wonder what your thougts are on Leica CL? Wont give me the dreamy look of Q. But Maybe CL with 35mm 1.5 + Q combo.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

I am not a fan of the CL, there are much better cameras out there in the APS-C world.

Hi looking forward in seeing a followup on your Wotancraft Sniper on street while shooting :)

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Marlon! It's a great backpack and I can't wait to take it out on the road again. 👌

@marlon.iraheta

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealsirrobin I want to buy it but I'm not sure, I shoot only leica but the concern is how it would look and feel on my back I'm 6 feet tall , about 200 lbs. Just wanna make sure it fits right. When I saw your video, I actually got to see how it looks, there's not a lot video on it. Hey cheer man ✌️

The quality that the monochrome produces is undeniable. A style choice for sure. Nice one!

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Riley!

Interesting... best argument against the leica monochrom I have heard... I torn between the leica m10 monochrom and the upcoming m10r... this is pushing towards the m10r...

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

The M10 Monochrom has solved some of the issues, others are still present though.

@1stfootprint_art

4 жыл бұрын

@@therealsirrobin I was leaning in the direction of the m10r... but the live reveal dampened my enthusiasm... I am now considering picking up an unjustifiably expensive lens that I have been fantasizing about for years (the Leica Thambar)... and sticking it on an affordable mirrorless camera...

Film !!! like your videos :)

its a shame you let your monochrome go but i understand your difficulties with its limitations...i hope you do more black and white as i felt they were some of your most captiviating work! All the best

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Marc! I have a project going on that is B&W only. 😀

I own a M246 for a couple of years and i have been shooting that and my trusted M6 in turns. I love the tones and the sharpness you get paired with leica glass. I don't have your problems because i don't shoot wide open, f8 is my usual value for streets. I found that M246 works best with high ISO, i use 1600-2000 during daytime, 3200 on cloudy days and afternoons and 6400 after sun sets. That is a personal taste but i like how it renders at 3200-6400. I love the camera and i dont think you can get so rich and live and 3d images from many other cameras out there

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, high ISOs look nice and even better on the new M10 Monochrom. 👌

Can you do a talk about the Ricoh GR.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I won't because I don't have access to any of them. Maybe in the future, who knows.

Robin, the filter issue only happens with the monochrome not film cameras right?

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

It's the same when shooting film.

@noc838

4 жыл бұрын

the_real_sir_robin thanks Robin, I don’t use filters so hadn’t come across this...

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Great, then it will probably never effect you! 🙏

@robertpillow47

3 жыл бұрын

​@@therealsirrobin Thanks for the clarification and reminder about the impact of the red filter on the sensor and film. If you're using a lens with a depth of field scale, often there is a red mark or an aperture number in red, on the right side that shows where to set focus when using infrared film. Was it any help to adjust your focus using this mark? Thank you for the thoughtful video.

Danke, Grüße aus Lörrach Deutschland 🇩🇪

Very interesting. Would you be happy with the Leica M10 Monochrom ? I think it rectified a lot of the issues that you raised.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the M10 Monochrom is really Impressive. The updated body is nice and the image quality is even better than on the 246. I hope I'll get a chance to use one for a while at some point.

No man.You sell a super super good camera.I won lots of prices with my Leica q monochrome yet

Hello From Georgia Tbilisi ;)

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Hello to Tbilisi! 🙏

oh, and: your pictures are very fine!!!

You made the right decision to sell it for the Xpan.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

The Xpan was one factor but the bigger one was my M6. 😀

Are Leica lenses not Apo Chromatic? If they are you should not have that issue with the rangefinder.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Some of them are but I am not sure if that would make a difference though.

OK let me see if I understand this correctly, you bought a $7000 camera, used it once then sold it after it took a big depreciation?

@therealsirrobin

3 жыл бұрын

I used it for almost a year. ;)

Ya new video

Amazing shots! I am heading to Seoul in a couple of weeks. How do you find shooting people on the streets. I know people get very protective about their face being in the shots, and sometimes you can be sued as you legally are not allowed to shoot photos. Let me know!

@therealsirrobin

3 жыл бұрын

No idea how it is right now with all people wearing a mask but I never had any issues shooting in Korea and I was there 10+ times. 👍

Love your humble honestly. Thank you.

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Adam!

Rangefinder focusing has nothing to do with what the lens sees. So if you have a filter, it doesn’t matter! It is a mechanical coupling between lens and rangefinder system. If your focus with live view is different than your rangefinder, then you have to send it for the rangefinder to be adjusted. It has nothing to do with the image output of the lens man.

@therealsirrobin

2 жыл бұрын

Well and what if the focus is shifting when putting on a filter? It's a known fact that it will affect focusing, it's simply physics.

If I get it for free.... Yeah, I would certainly use it....:-)

I was thinking of selling my M typ240 and get the Monochrom typ246, as I manly convert my files in B&W. But still need to invest so much money. And then I am not sure if I want sometimes to shoot in color I will regret my choice 😬

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

If you are in doubt theb better don't do it. It's a great camera but have to be fully dedicated to B&W.

Wahhhh.

1:25 wtf was happening there lmao

I think maybe you just didn't like it! From a logical perspective if the lens was focusing visible red vs white light at noticeably different distances then it would have terrible chromatic aberration. You literally couldn't shoot colour with it. If you are using a really really deep red filter then maybe focus would be off just a bit but those wavelengths of light would be out of focus (compared to the range finder and other white light coming through the lens) if you were using a colour sensor and no filter. It is only the de-mosaic raw processor that fudges it to make it appear sharp. In fact I'm not sure the red filters in the Bayer layer would be as red as the three stop red you were using so the effect wouldn't technically be achievable without a filter anyhow - but could probably be approximated in post. If you switch to an M6 with B&W film with the same filter you get all the same issues but probably wouldn't notice because the resolution is much lower unless you are using really slow film in which case you will almost be on a tripod! You did complain about both the base ISO being too high to shoot on sunny days and also that using a 3 stop red filter on sunny days made the ISO too low. It can't be both. Nice pictures though :)

The Leica is a luxury brand. Much the same way an Alfa Romero is a luxury brand. Canon, Nikon, Sony brands are for the everyday person. As much as I'd like to have a Leica, digital or film, the price points are out of what I am comfortable spending. Besides an expensive camera will no make you a better photographer. I'd have to be a much better photographer before I spent any money even on a pre-owned Leica. Nearly all of my photography equipment is either pre-owned or refurbished by Canon. I save ¼ and more on pre-owned and refurbished equipment. The Canon refurbished comes with Canon's standard warranty.

Really nice photos.

why buying b&w camera when all dslr can shoot b&w?

You have to be a very special photographer to handle the Typ’246 else you will sell it 😏

You must be a very rich man now.

Monochrom sensors is living in the different zone system, you have to adjust the habit when using one...

@therealsirrobin

4 жыл бұрын

You have to try to avoid overexpose otherwise it is getting really ugly.

What can you expect from a $7,000 camera body. No low iso. No fast shutter. No metering (ok bad meter). Etc etc. if you only had a smaller budget for a modern camera!:)

Lowest ISO at 320???? As a default?? Really, for 8.000,- €? Ahh, I am so happy with my NIKON D750. I put on a zoom 70 - 300 mm when I do street photography, covers most motifs. Or I walk with a 50 mm lens. Then dial in the MC mode in RAW. And get absolutely fine b/w pics. With the option to check out some in color later. The "only b/w approach" for me seems rather stupid. Just think of Ernst Haas or Saul Leiter.

@clawdawg7248

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious. It’s clear you don’t understand the benefits of a monochrome sensor versus converting, nor the fact that when you remove the bayer sensor from an otherwise color camera with a base ISO of 160 that the monochrome has a higher base due to the increased sensitivity. Enjoy your zoom lens.

@klartext2225

2 жыл бұрын

@@clawdawg7248 Hilarious... for me are people who really think buying a Leica Monochrom brings them one step closer to being a good photographer. Or is it all about comparing histograms? Don't think so. Btw: what is a "bayer sensor"?

So basically, Leica Monochrome is overpriced garbage?! I can get very very good black and white images from my old Fuji XT1 with the BWr film simulation and a circular polarizer attached.

@raymondtay5512

4 жыл бұрын

I own a X-Pro 1 and use it for B&W as well. When I compare X-Pro 1 B&W and compare to my M10D and M240 B&W conversion, I can’t justify what’s the diff between the XPro & Ms. However, when I shoot my M9M DNG + JPEG, I am totally blown away when viewing on LightRoom. I have checked out many videos on KZread and online reviews to determine if I should get it. The initial results that I have collected just doesn’t give me the push to get it. When I tried out the M9M and view the images with my own eyes on its original resolution, I can definitely see the difference from images sharpness and tones. Just sharing my personal opinion.