ZUN stated in an interview that the reason the PC-98 characters aren't in the newer Touhou games is because he can't find a way to fit them into the story, that's all. I don't know where this whole "Amusement Makers owns the PC-98 characters" rumor came from but it's most likely false.

@SHinierthennyourforehead

2 жыл бұрын

yeah espescially when zun copyrighted an PC-98 game on megalink

@nousername4416

2 жыл бұрын

If ZUN didn't own the PC-98 characters then Reimu and Marisa wouldn't even be in Windows lol.

@maximilianusofmarchaorient596

2 жыл бұрын

She could fit as the creator of the Demon world he could cannonize her as being "Satan" or the Demon Queen I think it would work since she could be connected to Iesu Nazarenus who allegedly had a feud with "Satan" claiming heir disciple's soul though it is hard since he should fall under newer hell's jurisdiction but perhaps ZUN could just edit this part or add more unclarity making it possible to kidnap souls. Just my idea since her name is tied to the Devil and Death as well. Makai also could be recognized as a third "Hell" as I guess.

@actuallyreallybored3552

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine that’s because there’s no reasonable excuse for Child Marisa and Child Reimu to go head to head with people like Shinki without the spellcard rules. Since if Modern Reimu(Who is definitely stronger because she always matches Marisa who trains) already needs help to beat Fused Kasen(who is probably stronger than her original self due to having her hermit powers stacked on top of her already great oni power) and Keiki. How would a weaker her fight a Goddess who singlehandedly created Makai, a *infinite* *dimension* .

@Jann75

2 жыл бұрын

@@actuallyreallybored3552 Well, one Mima noted that Shinki was surprisingly weaker than you think. Two it's Reimu and Marisa. Three it's Touhou. Four too late we still have Yuuka. Five why does everyone pretend like everyone wasn't still fighting with bullets anyways. Six if that's not enough you can always consider the theory that points out that that if you take several statements ZUN made together, the logical option chronologically would mean that spell cards have retroactively become canon during the time the PC-98 games should've occurred, if we're really going to overanalyze the canon.

My headcanon is that Shinki burned away the entire PC-98 timeline with Devil's Recitation. All the PC-98 characters except Reimu, Marisa, Alice, and Yuuka were erased from reality. And Shinki? Using Devil's Recitation drained her magic and life force to the point where she could only muster up one last nonspell, and she died from her wounds after the battle. The battle with EX-Alice takes place in the empty void left behind. Eventually the timeline returned to normal and Gensokyo reconstructed itself, which is when we start over at EoSD.

@parafysh

5 жыл бұрын

Jojo part 6 anyone?

@magicalmelancholy970

5 жыл бұрын

@@nebblets Maybe Mima is somewhere else trying to become a God.

@Charlie-pg5wy

4 жыл бұрын

I would absolutely love to see this animated

@claus4670

4 жыл бұрын

But what about the ending? Shinki, Yumeko, and seemingly everyone else still seems alive in the end.

@TrappedBowyer9684

3 жыл бұрын

so Shinki is Lugia and Alice is Ho-oh in a way

This theme is adrenaline pumping! I would love to fight her under this theme.

@Bravidunno

7 жыл бұрын

If only we could get to play Re:MS !

@Teixas666

5 жыл бұрын

pc-98 is a bit problematic ot emulate@ESHistoryArch

*sniff*....everyone wants Mima and Shinki to come back, but what about Yumemi?

@wpotato9340

6 жыл бұрын

dualwieldroxas358 omg ya everyone seems to forget her :c

@Quingu12

5 жыл бұрын

@dualwieldrox358 Don't worry... you are not the only one wishing that. Now that I think about it Rikako could be a Stage 3 boss and Chiyuri the Stage 5.

@petergriffin1331

3 жыл бұрын

Mima is a kind of waluigi right now.... Evryone want her back but ZUN won't

@battlnerd2128

3 жыл бұрын

how are we supposed to bring her back when we don't know where she even is

@Clovalei

5 ай бұрын

What about YuugenMaagan

I think Zun should put the PC-98 characters into current games so that we can get cool new themes for them

@jacklevinson1

9 жыл бұрын

まほう少女 なぎさ めいこ .....................alice..................................................

@PbgFan39

9 жыл бұрын

Jack Levinson Yes but it's TECHNICALLY a different Alice

@zabierushinishi1621

9 жыл бұрын

+なぎさ めいこまほう少女 But they also be turned into different characters too?

@PbgFan39

9 жыл бұрын

xavier soto SO MANY CONFUSINGS!

@MegaManFan1987

8 жыл бұрын

It should be for the 20th Anniversary.

ZUN's music style is so powerful if I listen to this kind of songs at night I can hardly fall asleep. Have no clue how ZUN maintained his health after all these years

@refusingtoeatzebugs

9 ай бұрын

The magical properties of beer.

Zun Pc-98 + Jynx = Perfect

@mofongoboy2057

8 жыл бұрын

its perfect until you realize that jynx is the only one who can play them ;n;

@MrAsyo1

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly :'v

@prizmastarz742

8 жыл бұрын

+Alex Ramírez Hernández i kinda wish JynX really make the Remake though or maybe make something like BPoHC again and just put all of the PC98 characters in it.

Who's ever thought Shinki was the ultimate boss of the PC-98 era?

@ashtonleach9866

7 жыл бұрын

James Bennington OH... Shinki is my Makai mother.

@alexanderkurokawa8834

7 жыл бұрын

sariel was my fave, i just loved her wings and it looks super ultimate boss-y

@washingdeezsheesh231

6 жыл бұрын

Mari Kurokawa many in Pc-98 era has Wings 😆

@violetcaesar2358

6 жыл бұрын

Like Yeah she created Makai But creating worlds didn't seem to be a big deal for the pc98 era cast

@SackyBalls444

5 жыл бұрын

Well she WAS the final boss of the PC-98 games, excluding extra bosses. And she has the best music of the PC-98 games IMO.

That's what I thought~ People just don't seem to understand that their favorite characters can't just pop up out of no where unless it fits with the story. I assume Yuuka was in PoFV because of her abilities with flowers, but yeah, her role wasn't all that big anyway.

That piano in the song was pleasant to the ear. Best remix ever!

I love it how after 12 years, ZUNpet spam still sounds good

Jinx did a really great job on remastering this song into ZUN's style, didn't he :^)

Yeah, but that doesn't mean she wasn't awesome. Personally, I think she would have been a great character to play as. Plus Strawberry Crisis was just plain awesome

I Wanna Defeat the Demon Goddess feat. IWBTG mechanics, IWKTK and IWBTC (I Wanna Be the Coop) quality + Touhou. feat. Shinki from Mystic square and Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

If you consider the danmakufu, Shinki could come back with a backstory (made by fans). And with her we could also have Yumemi, Rikako, Kana, Gengetsu, Mugetsu, Konngara, Elly, Luize. But also it could be a fighting game and be awesome

Touhou 5 in a shellnut. shinki found out she wouldn't be in touhou 14 and started a demon war. Then she got beat to a pulp by reimu. The end.

And he was only able to use them because he was able to make evidence they were his ideas and Intellectual Property, not Amusement Makers. He couldn't for the others. Hence the total redesigns too.

The scary thing about Shinki is that you don't defeat her, she defeats herself.

@stripedpolkadots8692

Жыл бұрын

Out of context (havent played touhou), this makes her sound kinda stupid 😂

@porygon4023

Жыл бұрын

@@stripedpolkadots8692 well in the game it's theorized she overloads on power trying to defeat the player only to destroy her entire house and lose most of her power. So yea, it is pretty stupid

that piano is freakin EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPICCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!

In love with the first 26 seconds

This is great!

The claps in the theme make it sound so epic X3

Wow. Beautiful. It sounds very similar to ZUN's style.

He isn't entirely wrong. The characters themselves do belong to that other company. This is why ZUN made characters strikingly similar to PC-98 Era characters (Yumeko - Sakuya, etc) However, it's unknown his standing with this company and whether or not he would be allowed to use characters at his own whim.

Awesome

私が一番好きなアレンジ曲です

3:31 EARGASMM

This is the best version :D

I was thinking: Omni-Directional Master Spark

Wow! This feels like it was made by ZUN directly!

I'll support your cause!

Great job.

Shinki is fantastic

I was thinking "Art of Love ~ Comet Spark" Because instead of just obliterating them, why not also completely baffle them? "If it's not flashy, it's not magic"

This theme is so underrated its sad I honestly like this theme alot more than some of the more popular ones, for example cirno's theme

Just f*cking amazing...

Woow that piano is niice ;0;

Now...LOOP IT!

she and her theme is my favorite XD

Yay, from Re:MS.

Shinki and Hecatia should have a cup of tea together and invite Iesu Nazarenus.

ヴォヤージュ1970みたいな焦燥感を感じるイントロがとてもすこ

The end of every Reimu thoughtings.Is the time to begin a new world...full of new desires,it's time to forgot the other good moments...It's the time to write again how Gensokyo is... The Makai saves all the forgotten moments... But the fun just begun... There's still a lot of new good moments... It's...the time for Danmaku. But...i do not want to forgot...Mima...Shinki...everything...why they are dissapearing in my mind?Why they don't come back?

good god I miss Shinki

Gorki Legendary illusion ~ Infinite Being + GyoroGyoro's Theme= Epicness

I'll call it "Death Sign- Rest in Pieces"

Hmm.....how about adding a few Starbow Breaks and Shou-patented Curvy Laser? XD

Could I use your music in my video? I will tab origin(this URL) (Sorry,My English is very Basic,please don't mind. )

There's a speed option in my options menu,just beside the quality options :o

これぞラスボス！って感じ 鳥肌モノ

@Iemanonymous1 There are Touhou soundfonts that you may apply to your MIDIs to give them a ZUN-ish feel. If you'd like one, don't hesitate to ask.

Sorry for my ignorance but i prefer if it sounds more like post UFO than pre-UFO

@Shadow00000000000001 Ah, I didn't mean it like that. I'm only aware of one, but I can't help but think that there would be others around that people are improving on, especially considering the new (or maybe just tweaked) instruments in UFO and 10D.

@Hail Minella What about Lightful Dream "Pillars of an Endless Heaven" Last Word?

Makes me think that this is the result if ever ZUN remakes Touhou games 1-5

This is the wallpaper on my phone. XD

Hi Sai. You really should play 3, it's my personal favorite and I recommend it hardcore.

Now that i think about it... It sounds like Doll Judgement...

That piano... Not to say that the rest of the song isn't amazing too, though, amazing is kind of saying the least. I just really like the ending piano part, it kinda livens up the end.

Heard This In MS:RE

A battle theme fitting for a touhou universe demon goddess :P

I Want that staff..... Let's a Go!

Where you got this? It would be nice if you shared a link of the full album >:

@prizmastarz742

7 жыл бұрын

Fumiko tricknostalgie.bandcamp.com/releases

That's most likely a false rumor. If that were true he wouldn't of been able to put Mima on one of his music albums.

@Kerreb17 I already have a Touhou soundfont, but you imply that there's more than one. If you know where others exist, would you mind showing them to me please?

Yes. How about Ice Sign- Icicle Fall Easy?

this would make such a good theme replacement in touhou 7 or 8

@Kerreb17 If I may ask, can I have one of these soundfonts/an explanation as to how they work? I'm not really pro at composing on computers and I generally just notate stuff in Finale so...yeah.

Soo, Utsuho uses Shinki's Spellcards too? At least Mega/Petit Flare looks very similar to one of Shinki's Attacks~

Though yes, it is done in ZUN-ish style... It simply doesn't sound as "final boss"ish as some others do... *cough*version2

I didn't see Mima in the Background anywhere in 13.5

Damn, ZUN, how'd you discover the secrets to trumpets and strings?!

@ChinaD0111 Umm... Isn't this a remastered version of Zun's work?

Yuuka is the most worth of coming back in a danmaku game (PoFV doesnt count)... she's damn awesome. Yumemi is a scientist, she doesn't really belong there.

The PC-98 world of Touhou was different, it would require a large amount of retconning to reconcile the differences.

WRONG! Zun stated himself that EoSD took place only a short time(possibly about a year or two at most) after Mystic Square.

That may sounds if she appeared in windows era

How is she so powerful? who gave her her position as the goddess of Patala\ Makai? Krishna, the Supreme personality of Godhead! and every day, she recites this mantra in hope that her daughter and the one locked away in Hokkai may one day attain his causeless mercy. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare P.s Krishna did hear her prayers.

音楽の技術の進化って 　すごいね～（　*－ωー*）っ

@user-sx1fy8ns3v

4 жыл бұрын

こーリーさんが…いる…だと…！？

Ok

oh, sorry, my mistakes. thoughts. i think :P

東方キリストの宗教異変で神綺様復活しないかな

By you, sure. But I've yet to see any official source that says what you're claiming.

@Kerreb17 Er, not to be a bother, but may I have one too? ;w;

Everyone wants Mima and Shinki But what about Konngara and Sariel

@nousername4416

2 жыл бұрын

what about Orange

First we must kill Amusement Makers..... Anyone got good spellcards?

Fnas+touhou crossover Vs shinki "Leggendary illusion~infinite being"

This sounds a bit different from the -troll- Remake Ver

@Konoko_kun

7 жыл бұрын

Look at description. It says it's from Jynx. Plus, those games are actually real, he just keep them for himself. he doesn't release them because he didn't ask ZUN for permission, and he is too shy to do that (Maybe he will one day) Source : Jynx's interview, in Len'en wiki

@prizmastarz742

7 жыл бұрын

Geez I know it's from JynX and i already saw the desc It's just this one sounds a little bit different to the Remake MS video

@Konoko_kun

7 жыл бұрын

Lunartic Skele-bone It totally sounds like the same to me. I think it's because there is the sfx that disturbs the actual audio in his video

well, TH6 took place sometime before 60 years after the events of TH5. Since Mima was already dead, she doesn't seem to be going anywhere. The original Hakurei is presumed to be Reimu's ancestor. If you think about it, Mima could do something to this generation Reimu or something. But then again, I'm not Zun, and you never expect where his next game will take us!

キャー！アリスのママさーん！！！（名前忘れたｗ）

666 likes bruh.

@Redheart709

8 жыл бұрын

bruh

@blu_wraith6693

7 жыл бұрын

Bruh

I think I know why. Because alot of Touhou fans didn't play 1-5. I've only played 5. Sorry, pls don't rape me anybody

I disagree, ZUN's style is a bit more repetative than this. This has too many minor changes in the repetitions to be ZUN's style, I feel.

Shinki > Byakuren

@adrianac3437

7 жыл бұрын

paroxysm Hahaha that was funny but Byakuren is one of the most well made touhous

I Wanna Defeat the Demon Goddess feat. IWBTG mechanics, IWKTK and IWBTC (I Wanna Be the Coop) quality + Touhou. feat. Shinki from Mystic Square and Dante from the Devil May Cry series.