Great lecture!

@paulesmond3713

5 жыл бұрын

He's entertaining to listen to. Explains things well. Very personable and has a good sense of humor.

Thanks for this.

what is the latitude and longitude, having trouble finding tel el borg. red sea crossing at nuweiba. thats where they found coral encrusted chariot wheels. then they had to dig this canal,.... this is gonna keep me busy for the next ten years awesome thanks

This is a fairly good presentation on the findings from the E. Delta area. However, since the supposed Migdol site cannot be excavated it might be suggested that it continued as long as the Saite period. Also, there is no indication biblical Ramesses was ever a capital, as it was irl, and there are indications in Exodus the capital supposed by the author was, in fact, Tanis.

Interesting, but it seems that instead of looking for "Cadillacs" as he claims to do, he's looking only at texts that he knows he is able to match up to finds. If he were sincere he should give a detailed analysis of the anachronisms listed in the book he is contrasting "The Bible Unearthed." E.g. the Philistines didn't exist as a people there until 500 years after Abraham was said to be in their land, or Ramesses II didn't rule until 200 years after the Exodus (by the Bible's chronology).

The problem? How does one Prove the Exodus? Where is the archaeological proof? Archaeologists have noted several dates have been proposed for the Exodus. How does one settle on which date is true? A clue: Exodus mentions cities, villages and camps, if a period can be found where all appear at the same time and are occupied, presto we have the Exodus date! The problem is that no period of time has all the mentioned sites in existence and occupied. Every period has sites either not in existence yet, or if in existence, some are unoccupied or deserted. Ergo, archaeologists concluded the Exodus is fiction. They did ask a different question though: What period has the most sites in existence and occupied? That got an answer, it was Iron Age II, the 8th through 6th centuries BC, but, not even this time period had all the sites in existence and occupied. Moses is credited with writing the Pentateuch, the first 5 books of the Bible, circa 1446 BC for some conservative scholars. The problem? Genesis mentions Bozrah of Edom (Edom's capital city), which upon excavation was determined to have been settled no earlier than the late 8th century BC (circa 725 BC). How could Moses, circa 1446 BC know of a site that didn't come into existence until 725 BC? Another problem: Moses has Israel fearing the Philistines upon departing Egypt. Egyptian records reveal the Philistines did not settle in Canaan until circa 1175 BC in the reign of Rameses 3rd who defeated their attempt to conquer Egypt. He mentions putting them in Egyptian forts in Canaan, one of which was Gaza. So there were no Philistines to block Israel's entry into Canaan from Egypt and no need to divert Israel to the southern Sinai when the fastest route to Canaan was the way to the land of the Philistines and Gaza. A real Moses in 1446 BC would know nothing about Philistines who didn't arrive in Canaan until 1175 BC. Another problem: The book of Joshua mentions Moses' Israelites conquering Moab and fighting Sihon the Amorite of Heshbon. Several other sites are mentioned as being conquered. When excavated many of these sites proved to be no older than Iron Age I, circa 1200-1100 BC. How can Moses be conquering settlements in Moab circa 1400 BC that did not come into existence until 200 years later? These are some of the reasons why archaeologists say the Exodus is a myth, it never happened. Click on my name, by my photo, to see my KZread videos on how archaeology proved the Bible to be nothing but lies from Genesis to Revelation, or visit my website, www.bibleorigins.net for more info.

@fleetwd1

6 жыл бұрын

An answer to the questions you raise about date of places is addressed somewhat in this video by Mark Lanier on the authorship of Genesis. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6ypqs2oqrKYmMo.html come let us reason together.

It's hard to believe that Ramesses II was the pharaoh of the time of the Exodus out of Egypt. The Exodus was more likely around c.1446BC, based upon: the time genealogy of the Bible since Adam; 1Kings 6:1 480 years back from the 4th year of the reign of Solomon; and the genealogy of the Judges and the events that took place in that time in relation to the pharaohs of Egypt. The timing of the Exodus could hardly have been in the days of Ramesses II about 1270BC.

@Stupidityindex

9 ай бұрын

Alas, poor Jesus, the closer to his time, the less there is. Why don't we have any mention of the pyramids? The fraud of religious people is revealed by the failure rate of prayers in a children's hospital & the lack of mountains moving by verbal commands.

At :3:10-3:36 minutes of this video professor Eric K. Hoffmeier (an Egyptologist) poses the question "Does the Bible account fit the archaeological evidence?" (His so-called "blazing saddles" test). The answer for him is in the affirmative. Here's the problem: The Philistines are mentioned as being in Canaan in the days of Abraham, circa 2000 BC. I Kings 6:1 suggests for some scholars the Exodus was circa 1446 BC. The Bible suggests that Israel fears war with the Philistines and so heads for the southern Sinai to avoid encountering that warlike nation. The Problem? Egyptian records reveal the Philistines arrived in Canaan circa 1174 BC in the days of Pharaoh Ramesses III, who fought and defeated them when they attempted to conquer Egypt by way of Gaza. In other words there were no Philistines in Canaan in 1446 BC to oppose an Exodus by Israel and thus no need to route Israel south into the southern Sinai and Mount Sinai. Hoffmeier, however, prefers an Exodus circa 1260 BC, in the days of Ramesses II, this being so, there are still no Philistines in Canaan yet to oppose Israel's exodus from Egypt as they did not arrive in Canaan until circa 1174 BC in the days of Ramesess III. So, to answer Hoffmeier's question "Does the Bible fit the archaeological evidence? The answer must be NO, IT DOES NOT. Ergo, the Bible is not the word of God because it is not supported by the archaeological evidence. Another example, not covered by Hoffmeier is Jericho. The Bible has Jericho's wall collapsing and Joshua orders the city to be burned. Jericho's last wall was dated to circa 1540 BC by Dame Kathleen Kenyon in the 1950s. She said the city's fallen walls had been torched by Egyptians pursuing the Hyksos from Egypt back into Canaan. No later wall exists. In the 10th century BC a wall-less village arose over the ruins, destroyed circa 587 BC by the Babylonians. Hoffmeier noted that 1 Kings 6:1 suggested 480 years elapsed from the Exodus to Solomon's Temple, but his studies suggested a longer period of time elapsed, closer to 600 years, aligning the Exodus with the Hyksos Expulsion from Egypt under Pharaoh Ahmose I founder of the 18th Dynasty. If Jericho's fallen torched wall has been correctly identified by Kenyon as being of the Hyksos Expulsion era, then Joshua's burning of Jericho's fallen walls is 1540 BC not 1446 BC nor 1260 BC. Once again, the Bible's claims do not add up with the findings of archaeology, showing the Bible is not the word of God.

I see some similarities with the popes and the pharaoh’s. And oddly enough when Rome takes over after the last pharaoh of Egypt you see the popes in Rome sometime after. Also there now and has been for centuries an ancient Egyptian obelisk in front of St. Peter’s which also is a sundial…

There were three east-west routes through the Sinai.28:16 The southern one from Suez to Ezion-Geber is not shown. Instead there is a north-south route east of the Bitter Lakes that never existed, This goes on to Mt. Saint Catherine in the Sinai then back up to Ezion-Geber. Did the Roman's build that road or did the 15th Century Sultans? In either case, it didn't exist for Moses.

@AhmoseReigns: Maybe, instead of hurling epithets at the man you should have listened more carefully. He didn't say that the "Egyptians can't make their own bricks" or that the "laborers in Rekhmire's tomb are somehow his imaginary 'Hebrews'" - he used the pictures as illustrations of workers in Egypt, some of which clearly were foreigners, among them blacks (not "black Hebrews") and some of them Asiatics. The word "Hapiru" appears for such workers in Egyptian sources.

@shutterfirestudios6554

6 жыл бұрын

st r non sense it's no citation on that

@Holy_hand-grenade

5 жыл бұрын

st r there is exactly ONE mention of “Hapiru” in the entire history of Egypt. They are mentioned as one of the many groups in the confederation raiding sea peoples during the Bronze Age collapse. ONE MENTION.

@Holy_hand-grenade

5 жыл бұрын

st r There is NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING mention of an enslaved erhnic-group of workers, and there is absolutely not one mention of Hapiru, Habiru, Hebrew, Hbrw, Hpr, Judea, Srl, Israel, etc. etc. etc. in reference to a group of enslaved people in Egypt. You are a dishonest debater, a liar, and an anti-intellectual apologist.

Ramesses is a later name. This city was Avaris.... they have found homes there which were in the Syrian style and artifacts which points to joseph and the 12 founding fathers of israel.

(13 August 2023) At 3:30-3:36 of this video of 2011, Dr. Hoffmeier, acknowledging there is no archaeological evidence of Israel in Egypt, focuses on the geographical setting as a clue to the Exodus. He call this facetiously "Cadillacs," after the movie Blazing Saddles, a parody on the American Old West, after the Civil War. He notes the movie ending with a cowboy riding into the west and a setting sun in a Cadillac instead of on a horse! He notes the shock of the audience: Cowboys didn't have cars in the Old West. Hoffmeier looks for traces of "Cadillacs" in the Exodus and finds none, confirming for him the truth of the Exodus. The issue? I have listed below several Cadillacs I have noted regarding the five books of the Pentatuch, allegedly written by Moses: Cadillac One: Israel fears engaging in war Philistines, so God provides a detour to the southern Sinai, fearing Israel will return to Egypt. Hoffmeier has Israel in fear of Egyptian Forts and soldiers, not Philistines! Why? Being an Egyptologist, he knows the Philistines arrived in Canaan circa 1175 BC in the reign of Ramesses III, too late for his Exodus of 1260 BC. Cadillac Two: Hoffmeier identifies Israel's camp at Succoth with present day Tell el Maskutah, in Egypt, based on name similarity. The issue? Excavations at the site by Dr. John S. Holladay in the 1970s revealed no 13th century BC pottery debris for Hoffmeier's Exodus. Cadillac Three: Pithom, built by Israel, is identified by many scholars with Tell el Maskhuta based on inscriptions there of a temple dedicated to the god, Atum or Tum, lord of Succoth/Tjeku. The issue? No pottery debris for Hoffmeier's 13th century BC Exodus. Cadillac Four: Moses is credited by some as being the author of Genesis as well as the Exodus. The issue? Genesis mentions the Edomite capital of Bozrah, and Moses writes the Edomite King a letter asking permission to cross Edom to get to Canaan. Excavations in the 1970s reveal Bozrah is no earlier than the 8th century BC, too late to be Hoffmeier's 13th century BC Ramesside Exodus. So, there you have it, Four Cadillacs, all defying Hoffmeier's 13th century BC Rameses II Exodus.

38:15 A fortress standing in their way? It gives a cool picture simply to understand what the Israelites may have encountered, buuut God, not the threat of an Egyptian fortress is what told Moses to turn back "while the Israelites were going out of Egypt with an uplifted hand", being led by an angelic 'Pillar of Cloud by day'. Not sure this one fortress would've swayed so many teaming thousands of Israelites, whose multitude made the Moabites fearful, among others.

@fleetwd1

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for your comments.😊 Is your user name a take off on Lunar Entry Module?. Just wondering. I remember Jethro Tull's song For Jeffrey, Michael Collins and me. LEM meant the above and i thought they were saying Lamb for the longest time. Michael Collins did not get to go on the LEM but he said he had his job to do and did not feel slighted in any way.

1. Traditionally, Moses was the author of Genesis and, Moses lived 600 years after Abraham. So he could easily have said "Abraham was in [what is now] the land of the Philistines". 2. The Bible doesn't tell us who is the Pharaoh of the Exodus. Ramses in the Bible is the name of a place, a city/province.

The Seti Karnak Temple fortress or "Ta dnit" were basically slaves.

kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3mhj9GvoLCzZcY.html might answer a lot of questions of comments made by people.

Archaeological proofs the Exodus is fiction as presented in the Bible: The Bible has Joshua setting fire to Jericho after its defensive wall collapses. Dame Kathleen Kenyon re-excavated Jericho in the 1950s and discovered its last defensive wall collapsed due to an earthquake and that the city thereupon was set on fire, for ash was everywhere. She associated this event with the Hyksos Expulsion from Egypt circa 1540 BC by Pharaoh Ahmoses I founder of the 18th Dynasty. She understood that after expelling the Hyksos from Egypt, Ahmoses then pursued after them, to Canaan, capturing that land and making it a vassal state of Egypt for the next 400 years. Joshua is presented in the Bible setting fire to Hazor after his having burned Jericho. Israeli archaeologists have excavated Hazor and confirmed it was set on fire for ash was found everywhere throughout the city. They (Yigael Yadin and Ammon Ben Tor) dated this event to the mid 13th century BC. However, another Israeli archaeologist, Moshe Dothan, had excavated at Hazor, before Yadin and Ben Tor, and found there two Philistine pottery sherds. Archaeologists understand the Philstines arrived in Canaan circa 1175 BC as a sub-group of the Sea Peoples. After conquering coastal Canaan they attempted to conquer Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Rameses 3rd. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR JOSHUA TO BURN JERICHO CIRCA 1540 BC AND HAZOR AFTER 1175 BC AS THESE TWO SITES' BURNING WAS SEPARATED BY AN ELAPSE OF 300 YEARS! Ergo, the Bible's Exodus account is fiction and never happened as presented.

I am about 12 minutes into this video and he has So far ignored the stronger evidence against his points. He is relying on people's ignorance of Finkelstein's and others' work, although I commend him for mentioning Finkelstein's and quoting him.

@jayd4ever

8 жыл бұрын

+Ralph MacFadden what evidence?

@Redtide

6 жыл бұрын

U know they belong to the bullshit branch of education when they called themselves Egyptologist.

Who asked?

if you dig in Ethiopia, you will find blond hair.

@navyboibutta7640

5 жыл бұрын

Goatpa Basazenew thats doesn't mean much.there were many blonds who came to NE Africa to "explore"

Halfway through this guy loses the thread and just starts an infinite regress of digressions, and asides. Irritiating presentation, though fascinating if I gave a damn about his random anecdotes.

His facts are not the real ones - you cannot make history like this .

@jayd4ever

8 жыл бұрын

+Zoltan Juhasz yes you can show what is true in the exodus account

black African Egyptians ruled Egypt once. It's true.

THIS guy Dr James Hoffmeier is clever in twisting simple obvious facts, such as the workers making bricks and call them " not Egyptians"

@shutterfirestudios6554

6 жыл бұрын

albert sneij only because they were black

The term Egyptologist is full of BS already. The Egyptians couldn't even decipher these own text, the iraqi can't read their ancestors cuneiform and yet, yet yet as USUAL, the white folks came along and ah ha..we had it all figure out and went on to proceed to write history according to their preferred narrative and political agenda.

@ruthamyallan1

6 жыл бұрын

I trained as an Egyptologist, hieroglyphs and all, and can assure you that our knowledge is very real.

@Redtide

6 жыл бұрын

Right... what you think it means may not be what it actually means.

@herzkine

3 жыл бұрын

@@Redtide a text making sense in 2 different ways of reading it...would be a first ..you Sound like a conspiracy nut.

@Redtide

3 жыл бұрын

​@@herzkine nope. we are victim of the vatican and cambridge oxford and jewish press. In ancient days, a city of 5-10K people is considered big. Some of the biggest city in China like Xian 2000-2500 years ago had 100K - 250K ppl with huge walls that chariots can race on top. How the hell did the jews in the bible numbered around 2-3M existed? There is no single population of that size. No one can garner a population of that size. Ancient Egypt is invented to accomodate the bible story. Same goes for the list of popes that doesnt exist. To build a Roman empire narratives to make it seems longer than it should. Beside, lets no forget the ancients are mostly farmers. How much land and food do u think will need to feed all these jews and egptians living in a small nile delta area? I will not get into the details. Most of the empires you read in history books are a fabrication of the corrupted western academics to give the illusions that west had a long civilisation.U dont.

@Redtide

3 жыл бұрын

@@ruthamyallan1 I understand that Egypt had 30 dynasties. Are you able to tell me where the information is gotten from? where can I find how the histories of the 30 dynasties are written and stored and deciphered?

I don't get it, was this scholar trying to prove the Exodus actually happened? Forts along the Way of Horus is nothing new, but does it prove the Exodus factual?? Absolutely not. There was a community of Jewish people living in Elephantine Island in upper Egypt who would have been familiar with the wall inscriptions that described the forts in the Way of Horus. Furthermore, Asiatics (Canaan and Syria) and Nubians as servants and slaves who were part of the Egyptian Empire of the New Kingdom is to be expected. I would worry instead about huge discrepancies such as the 10 plagues followed by half the population of Egypt leaving the country both causing an immense economical disaster. Yet after all that we are supposed to believe that the pharaonic state was able to maintain its empire. No need to tell, that none of these biblical economical utter destruction claims show in the whole 3,000 year history of ancient Egyptian records.

@jayd4ever

8 жыл бұрын

+Agrippa The Mighty he is not trying to say that everything in the exodus happened but there is basis of reality in the Exodus account more than sceptics claim

@AgrippaTheMighty

8 жыл бұрын

Baji Scipio Dārayav Aurelius Julian Venizelos Nalwa There is basis of reality in the Odyssey as well but historians don't try to make a case that Odysseus' encounters with the gods and demi gods really happened.

@jayd4ever

8 жыл бұрын

Agrippa The Mighty he is not taking about supernatural in this but in the archaeology weather you believe supernatural parts is your belief

@AgrippaTheMighty

8 жыл бұрын

Baji Scipio Dārayav Aurelius Julian Venizelos Nalwa It's not just the supernatural. There wasn't such a person as Odysseus who was away for 20 years and came back to his queen. On the same token, Moses, who was the leader of the former Israelite slaves, didn't exist either nor were there a multitude of Hebrew slaves who left Egypt.

@jayd4ever

8 жыл бұрын

Agrippa The Mighty we don't know that yet they just have not found anything that all can say is linked to him although some have claimed to have things that show Odysseus was historical but I think it may have some truth to him same with Moses although I think the bible exaggerated some things like numbers