Learning Through Unschooling | Callie Vandewiele | TEDxCambridgeUniversity

In this engaging talk, Callie shares with the TEDxCambridgeUniversity audience her experience of 'unschooling'. Different to 'home-schooling', Callie reflects upon how this new educational method and philosophy impacted upon her development. She argues that children need to be put back at the centre of their education.
‘Unschooled’ until age 16 when she started high school in the United States followed by local community college, Callie Vandewiele is now studying for a PhD at the University of Cambridge in Latin American Studies. Through her learning and work she has developed an interest in women’s leadership education and the ongoing interactions between globalised western culture, local cultures and the evolution of ancient traditions.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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  • @ItsAllIzzy
    @ItsAllIzzy5 жыл бұрын

    As a homeschooler, I can't tell you how many people i have run into that feel our son is getting no education at all. I am college educated. I have a BA in Comparative Theology and an AS in Elementary Education. My husband is equally educated. So, when someone hears us say our son is homeschooled, they ask how. We say we use a Waldorf Inspired Interest Led curriculum (which sounds really great until....). They say "huh" and we say "he is being unschooled, but has a daily routine because he is Autistic and it works for him." They go from thinking everything is wonderful to we are horrible people, lazy, and that child will never learn anything other than picking his nose and how to use his tablet. My point is, I am so glad you did this TED. That you explained it in a way that needs to be done. Thank you.

  • @junemilich4223
    @junemilich42235 жыл бұрын

    We unschooled our daughter in the later 80's through "high school". John Holt was one of my mentors. It was absolutely a grand experiment! Unschooling is a lifestyle that is creative for the whole family. Great presentation!

  • @mujtabaalam5907

    @mujtabaalam5907

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, you knew him personally?

  • @morganthixton9850
    @morganthixton98508 жыл бұрын

    Callie, As a former neighbor of yours I never once heard my parents call you and your siblings hooligans. They had us running around with you guys all the time after school. I was so jealous of you and your siblings because of the unschooling you all got.

  • @EmilyElizabethxox

    @EmilyElizabethxox

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was probably her own parents that were telling her how “outsiders” are perceiving them.

  • @lulu-qw8xy

    @lulu-qw8xy

    3 жыл бұрын

    She more likely did not mean that everyone did literally. ❤

  • @yanomarimas8784

    @yanomarimas8784

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it was the other neighbors 🤷🏽‍♀️ lol

  • @ananyabasu3770

    @ananyabasu3770

    8 ай бұрын

    I wish my parents unschooled me😢

  • @freedoniaofficial1189
    @freedoniaofficial11895 жыл бұрын

    Seems we could take unschooling to another level by having a network of apprenticeships for teens. Different parents of unschooled teenagers could coordinate to allow other people's kids to work with them if their career aligns with the teen's interests.

  • @ericamciver4747

    @ericamciver4747

    4 жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome. I would love to touch on low waste/minimalism.

  • @Alexa-be4sk

    @Alexa-be4sk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!

  • @robertalea1103

    @robertalea1103

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds similar to an idea I’ve been tossing around. I’m a teacher at a public high school. I think unschool methods and project based learning would be beneficial to teens. Take their interests, have them work together to accomplish an idea or goal.

  • @AlexS-bi7of

    @AlexS-bi7of

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's a great idea, if kids could start working at 12/13 in basic jobs just learning how to work initially. The prison of school conditions you to be on welfare really, with it's one size fits all. Surely self reliance and earning your own money is a skill that we should endeavour to teach everyone from young.

  • @kasereighard9721

    @kasereighard9721

    2 жыл бұрын

    We need to help these kids, and the network of "Trades" to help kids become the best them they can be. We are not supposed to be robots we are supposed to build and grow be self driven, without help from the government that created the system to aligns kids to work in a thinkless world.

  • @ianzander8481
    @ianzander84818 жыл бұрын

    Great talk! I'm 18 now and left school when I was 16 after I had started my own travel booking business and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. I'm also a musician, so I was able to spend more time pursuing music on my own rather than being "tested" on it. I am now in 2 bands, traveling the world, and living on a boat (which I set out to do at age 17). So thankful that my parents were supportive of my decision to leave. I had a clearly formed plan of what I was going to do when I left, which was definitely helpful in the transition.

  • @ianzander8481

    @ianzander8481

    8 жыл бұрын

    +caessarion uhhh, what?

  • @graciestronk4387

    @graciestronk4387

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing! Im 16 and currently looking at this option. Super inspirational!!!

  • @mujtabaalam5907

    @mujtabaalam5907

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you make the business before or after dropping ou

  • @denisenicole1890
    @denisenicole18906 жыл бұрын

    I am getting ready to unschool my 8 yr old son. He is gifted and I am a single Mom. I am looking forward to this

  • @flowers6869

    @flowers6869

    6 жыл бұрын

    Im also a single mum and I want to unschool but I don't know how I can afford not to work

  • @kimthorne-harper714

    @kimthorne-harper714

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've decided I'm going to do the same. We've just started a full-time traveling lifestyle and my son can't adapt to his online school. And BTW, if you're in a first-world country, as a single mom, you can't afford not to travel full-time. As an American, I've found I can work online teaching English and doing editing and can afford that better than living in the United States!

  • @rpaw1505

    @rpaw1505

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kim Thorne-Harper my husband and I have a 3 year plan to travel full time as well and remove our kids from school. Can you share where/how you teach English and edit online?

  • @ToolShopGuy

    @ToolShopGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey there how is it going? About to unschool my 3 boys

  • @michelmoutinho
    @michelmoutinho3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who has received tradicional education and went on to graduate from architecture school and to this days still sucks at math, I realize I have studied so many things I didn’t have to learn. Like biology, chemistry... maybe basic algebra and geometry for the university course I chose. But I could have done that bit by myself preparing for it. On the other hand I have more knowledge on history, geography and languages than my general peers.

  • @PossumPityParty
    @PossumPityParty8 жыл бұрын

    This is cool. I learn this way now, as an adult. Best thing ever. I'm constantly engaged, thoroughly entertained and I make good conversation generally speaking, as I have a lot of interesting things I can usually talk about! Highly recommend doing this, at any age. Just have a passion to learn and you'll never be bored.

  • @bingbong5342
    @bingbong53425 жыл бұрын

    I've always felt so trapped at school artistically and that the teachers don't notice me at all. It's like I'm just another kid, and then they make you feel bad when you get a bad grade instead of further helping you in the subject.

  • @BlastinRope

    @BlastinRope

    4 жыл бұрын

    What makes you special? Why arent you "just another kid"? But everyone else is? You sound narcissistic.

  • @taniateiri7265
    @taniateiri72655 жыл бұрын

    First time I've ever heard about unschooling. Thank you for making this known by speaking out. I have been researching alternative education for my 13 year old daughter who has no desire to return to the out-dated traditional schooling system. I am presently a student teacher and this is my third and last year to gain a degree for Bachelor of Education in Teaching. I am currently trained in an alternate university from a Maori perspective and absolutely love it. I hope many more seek a better way for their own children's individual educational needs!

  • @fallinginthed33p

    @fallinginthed33p

    4 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't New Zealand have a play-centric program for pre-K and kindergarten? It's a short step from that to full on unschooling. Contrast that to the academic focus of most Australian early childhood education programs.

  • @briarmcclelland
    @briarmcclelland8 жыл бұрын

    This talk was incredibly empowering for me, as a mother of a one year old navigating this world of traditional education systems. Thank you so much

  • @GustiAjuDewi

    @GustiAjuDewi

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, by this year I believe your child is 7 yo. How is s/he? Still unschooling? My son is 8yo now and we're walking in Unschooling path now.

  • @rstalbans
    @rstalbans6 жыл бұрын

    I unschool one and homeschool another. Both have multiple diagnoses. My then 11 year old by had severe difficulty reading but in one year of playing Minecraft he not only taught himself but exceeded the lexile of his peers in ability. He needed to read so he learnt to read. The need to know is a far more effective motivator than "being told to". At present, he is all about gaming (at 13). Previous obsessions have included marine biology of the tidal and intra-tidal zones, fossils, dinosaurs (of course), mythology of the world, and many others. Should he decide on a career that needs further education, he can learn material in many ways, sit many exams, gain entry to college and go from there. He knows there is a chance he will need to engage with formal education but he doesn't need to be there yet. My daughter, the homeschooler, is creative. She isn't academic at all and her diagnoses would make it difficult for her to be academic. Instead, she dances, she sings, she vlogs, she creates musicals, she paints. All to a higher-than-peer level standard. My kids are doing just fine. Is it for every child? I wish but probably not for a very long time. We only have one working parent and he can work from home a lot. By the way, our kids are adopted and we are nearing 60 and both are the product of very traditional educations so it isn't as if we didn't consider that for our children. trexgamer, thank you for entering the discussion. I am amazed at adults that took time out of their day to criticise you for your spelling - keep powering on!

  • @Alexa-be4sk

    @Alexa-be4sk

    4 жыл бұрын

    He taught himself to read for minecraft, love that!! 😂 o probably would've done the same

  • @joanshu2220
    @joanshu22208 жыл бұрын

    In my community, a lot of people think unschooling mean uneducated,which is absolutely a mistaken conception.

  • @freedoniaofficial1189

    @freedoniaofficial1189

    5 жыл бұрын

    People are brainwashed in the educational system. To this day most people still think you "need" a 4 year degree, whatever it may be, to get ahead in your career. Generally speaking anything over a 2 year isn't needed, it just substitutes for years of experience (sometimes). Experience is always the best thing to gain.

  • @siradmin6791

    @siradmin6791

    3 жыл бұрын

    Makes sense though. *un* schooling. Makes it sound like you are trying to make them not learn or even unlearn. *un* schooled and *un* educated.

  • @skyleruballe2265

    @skyleruballe2265

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@siradmin6791 it needs to be renamed interest-led schooling. Youre right, the name is horrendously misleading

  • @nexuscross3233

    @nexuscross3233

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@siradmin6791No it sounds like we are undoing the conditioning done by schools, but to most people it doesn't make sense as they themselves have been conditioned to think in a certain way.

  • @mirandabortell6838
    @mirandabortell68388 жыл бұрын

    If you agree with the unschooling technique then you should listen to "Don't Stay In School" by Boyinaband. He also toches up on certain points in the school system that tie in with this video, just in song format.

  • @veggiemctaco1537

    @veggiemctaco1537

    7 жыл бұрын

    Miranda Bortell 👍 thanks for recommending that! Awesome lyrics!

  • @mamawisch
    @mamawisch4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! Your witty and easy to listen too! I'm currently homeschooling and transitioning to unschooling with 4 of my 7 kids! The other 3 were traditionally schooled and I regret that. Seeing your story helps me know I'm on the right track

  • @neha.kinari
    @neha.kinari8 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Callie! You did such a great job :)

  • @heathertoomey7068
    @heathertoomey70683 жыл бұрын

    Short and sweet, got the message across. The definition was the best I've seen.

  • @tschick2680
    @tschick26808 жыл бұрын

    This was a grate talk for me to watch cuss I am unschooled. It's made me feel better about what im doing in life and makes me werry less about the rest of my life I have still to come. Thx

  • @eduardosanmartin8504

    @eduardosanmartin8504

    7 жыл бұрын

    where did you study? I'm just learning English, but I think the unschooling very interesting.

  • @tschick2680

    @tschick2680

    7 жыл бұрын

    study? im a kid

  • @eduardosanmartin8504

    @eduardosanmartin8504

    7 жыл бұрын

    +trexgamer hmm ok, i'm just a beginner in English, so sorry guy ^^

  • @omp199

    @omp199

    7 жыл бұрын

    trexgamer Is your unschooling the reason that you can't spell?

  • @tschick2680

    @tschick2680

    7 жыл бұрын

    omp199 and i just don't learn as fast as some people. spelling and reading has been really hard for me

  • @tiktokaccount1524
    @tiktokaccount15242 жыл бұрын

    I even lose my talent in playing chess because of homework. I am also now a freshman that has no motivation at all. It will be a great opportunity if this "unschooling" stuff would be implemented in my country.

  • @tiktokaccount1524

    @tiktokaccount1524

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would make my own business if this happens.

  • @LulasticHippyshake
    @LulasticHippyshake8 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love this! Thank you for sharing :D

  • @MS-ho7yo
    @MS-ho7yo8 жыл бұрын

    I love your parents! 🐥

  • @globalcareernetwork5264
    @globalcareernetwork52645 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @franciavaldez3866
    @franciavaldez386625 күн бұрын

    Excellente presentation.

  • @EmilyElizabethxox
    @EmilyElizabethxox5 жыл бұрын

    As someone that works in the finance industry, I can vouch that school and university is absolutely what desensitized me enough to work with numbers for 8 hours a day. Your brain fights it at first but then it becomes what makes you comfortable. Well, so does the money but you get my drift. School changes us in remarkable ways.

  • @ajrwilde14

    @ajrwilde14

    4 жыл бұрын

    or it made you brain-dead so now all you care about is money

  • @obadanaim6174
    @obadanaim61748 жыл бұрын

    when I understand the lesson at home in 10 mins and it takes the teacher 2 classes to explain it to some stupid dumb students, I think it's right to leave schooland study at home

  • @obadanaim6174

    @obadanaim6174

    8 жыл бұрын

    +paisleyyama I called them stupid and dumb not be cut hey don't get the lesson from the first fime, but simply because they misbehave in classes, keep talking and ignore the teacher, then come beg the teacher to repeated and say they didn't get it.

  • @obadanaim6174

    @obadanaim6174

    8 жыл бұрын

    +paisleyyama yes that's very true, I think that the educational system at my school sucks. For example, if I didn't want to attend a biology class, they wouldn't let me get out of class until it ends and instead force me to stay in class. I don't think one would behave when he begs to leave the class to relax but is forced to stay in class and take notes.

  • @muhanc.a.9299
    @muhanc.a.92998 жыл бұрын

    Wise words.

  • @sterlingforbes3872
    @sterlingforbes38724 жыл бұрын

    Well done... for me this was more influential than watching the videos I've seen on the topic. One of my greatest fears with this model though would be parents who fail on their end to create this academic experience. If by chance the parent neglects their responsibilities, the child suffers.

  • @keepingupwiththejoneses746

    @keepingupwiththejoneses746

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even if a child is not met with an engaging and rich environment, as long as the child is not being abused, they will still learn and explore the world and learn. Kids are naturally driven to learn. They will use the resources they DO have to learn. Unschooling is about recognizing that not all kids will learn all the same information and not all at the same age/pace/etc. So a child that is limited when young, will still yearn to learn and once old enough to enrich their own learning experience, they will excell because of that thirst. However, intentional unschoolers will do their best to enrich the environment of the child.

  • @skyleruballe2265

    @skyleruballe2265

    2 жыл бұрын

    Luckily for this example, this is a new and scary approach for almost any parent and I do think most parents who can't handle that would already have or choose to switch their kids to traditional school. What I have overwhelmingly noticed with people who unschool is that parents who choose to do it tend to be so deeply invested in their child's education that it has led them to this option.

  • @moonhunter9993

    @moonhunter9993

    9 ай бұрын

    @@skyleruballe2265 I unschool my daughter for this reason

  • @aresxerxes6291
    @aresxerxes62914 жыл бұрын

    Callie, great presentation. So until what age were you unschooled? Not sure if I missed that.

  • @soidpeluyera1244
    @soidpeluyera12448 жыл бұрын

    i just homeschool and lots out door and travel. :)

  • @SlayerPrincess
    @SlayerPrincess8 жыл бұрын

    I was kind of unschooled. My mom said we were 'homeschool' but after learning to read, write, add, and subtract I had to take care of the house and 7 siblings for most of my teenage years and it was like no one ever thought I would grow up and need an education or want to do anything else besides cooking, cleaning and child-rearing. As soon as I found out what a GED was I got my GED. So my question and the thing I wondering is how does an unschooled person (whether through design or neglect) get into a college? Is there a way to get scholarships when you are an unschooled person with no grades on record to show?

  • @ZoeLoza

    @ZoeLoza

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Slayer Princess That doesn't sound like you were unschooled, it sounds like you just weren't schooled. Unschooling involves nurturing the child's interest and providing them with the resources to pursue those interests. Most unschoolers who decide to go to college do so by first taking classes at community colleges, usually you just need to provide the information that you were homeschooled and then take a placement exam. After two years in a community college you then have the ability to transfer to a 4 year university without needing transcripts or SAT scores. It is possible to go straight into a four year university, just like a community college you would take a placement exam and notify the university you were homeschooled and therefore don't have transcripts. The only difference is that you would then need to take the SAT or ACT. A lot of unschoolers (at the least the ones I've met) tend to find traditional schooling to be a waste of time, though, and choose not go to college, instead they start businesses or find internships and they are just as successful, if not more so, than their peers with degrees. One of the reasons unschoolers tend to be successful without a college degree is they've spent their entire lives nurturing their interests and often become experts on certain subjects. They generally will know more about that subject than someone who went to school for it because it was forced on them in a classroom, they discovered it on their own. Unschoolers also often spend more time out in the "real world" from an early age, interacting with people of all ages and therefore becoming skilled conversationalists, especially with adults. I've heard time after time that unschooled children are often far more mature than their traditional schooled peers and they have developed life skills that others have not because they've had the opportunity to live life, rather than read about it from a classroom.

  • @SlayerPrincess

    @SlayerPrincess

    8 жыл бұрын

    paisleyyama Thank you for your positive input. most people just react with hatred when they hear what I am. So real helpful advice is very very appreciated. Since posting my first comment I've been teaching myself about code and web design. I've been doing some online advertising & website building for people also so I feel like I am on a good track. I really appreciate your positive input and advice. It really does mean a lot that someone is willing to offer a few kind words to someone most people despise.

  • @daniels.
    @daniels.2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so relieved to know my dentists and my doctors went to school.

  • @lexiekacsor5004
    @lexiekacsor50043 жыл бұрын

    this is very interesting I have never heard of such a thing I love the concept

  • @jtmfam90
    @jtmfam908 жыл бұрын

    literacy before pubic education was over 95 percent.

  • @taramccarthy6242

    @taramccarthy6242

    6 жыл бұрын

    There was less 'diversity' back then.

  • @xavierquinn5215

    @xavierquinn5215

    6 жыл бұрын

    The arabs and chinese literally invented writing while the europeans were still hitting each other over the heads with rocks. The Europeans used their weapons and animalistic brutalism to take over the world in the name of religion and in the process stole these communities writings systems and knowledge and claimed them as their own. We still use arabic numerals today. Diversity in the world has done nothing but increase our perspective and help humanity improve as a whole.

  • @bonniemilligan8491
    @bonniemilligan84914 жыл бұрын

    Where's the

  • @LDXReal
    @LDXReal5 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could be unschooled but I have to go to public school...

  • @eduardosanmartin8504
    @eduardosanmartin85047 жыл бұрын

    Eu estou estudando o assunto ainda, acho muito interessante e, por outro lado já vimos o fracasso do n governo e por isso arriscar já não mais vejo como uma opção.

  • @BrickTamlandOfficial
    @BrickTamlandOfficial8 жыл бұрын

    they're related to dragons? wtf is she talking about?

  • @hereshotrod3873

    @hereshotrod3873

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think she meant Komdo dragons

  • @maylynbayani
    @maylynbayani4 жыл бұрын

    This is a new concept to me. Im just wondering what are the career opportunities afterwards. Do you guys get degrees to get a career? Because let's be honest, not everyone can afford to start their own business. What if the child wants to be a doctor, an engineer, a nurse, etc?

  • @777AMBASSADORA

    @777AMBASSADORA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi 👋 the goal is for the child to know themselves, know what they want, and to go after it. If student wants a medical degree, he will go to university and obtain it.

  • @kristywilliams7840

    @kristywilliams7840

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depending on where you live, in New Zealand you can obtain qualifications even after "school". You just need to be willing to learn.

  • @maylynbayani

    @maylynbayani

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kristywilliams7840 hi. I live in New Zealand. We do have trade courses but I reckon u still need to do Uni to be a regustered professional. I went the usual route so im not sure if there are alternative courses to get credits and move on to uni. Was that were you refererring to?

  • @kristywilliams7840

    @kristywilliams7840

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maylynbayani yes you still need to train for your profession. But you don't need to study for everything at school, if that makes sense. You can obtain qualifications regardless, if you prove you can study.

  • @kristywilliams7840

    @kristywilliams7840

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maylynbayani my sister left school early with nothing really to show. Later on she wanted to be a nurse, she just had to do a 6 month course to be able to enter uni to show she could study and do assignments. She's now been a registered nurse for almost 18 years. Anything is possible!

  • @Lozie82
    @Lozie823 жыл бұрын

    My stepson was “unschooled” and he’s now 19 and unmotivated. No license to drive, not even trying to get it. Bad hygiene. Only ambitious about overeating and video games. Socially awkward and not very confident. It’s sad. Not saying this is the case for all unschooled children. I just think my husband should’ve fought his ex to put him in school.

  • @yellowmug

    @yellowmug

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but it sounds like he needed more intentional/attentive parents. I see this in schooled kids the most and it’s sad. They don’t know their gifts because they’re not encouraged in them. School isn’t going to teach a child to be motivated is all I’m saying.

  • @kristywilliams7840

    @kristywilliams7840

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's just sounds like anxiety to me, and lack of guidance from the parents.

  • @Lozie82

    @Lozie82

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kristywilliams7840 Agreed. It can be overcome, hopefully!

  • @summerkellogg3266

    @summerkellogg3266

    Жыл бұрын

    This doesn’t sound like a case of unschooling. It sounds like no schooling happened. With unschooling, individuals have a nurturing environment which sparks curiosity and creativity, and they have support and guidance from a mentor/parent for resources and tools.

  • @chanellaDaboss
    @chanellaDaboss8 жыл бұрын

    Can someone please answer! When you unschool can you get a job without having a degree in the field you self-taught? can you go in a university if you decide to knowing that you did not go to high school or junior high?

  • @koyokoyo78

    @koyokoyo78

    8 жыл бұрын

    +PeaceLove&Wisdom Only a few places that I am aware of. Computer programming and mechanics are two places I can say fully that one would not need a degree if that person can prove what they know.

  • @phillipwood1828

    @phillipwood1828

    8 жыл бұрын

    +PeaceLove&Wisdom University is possible, but it requires a lot of work. You would have to build a portfolio to prove your knowledge and skills. Higher level universities are more likely to accept you if you truly stand out. Lower level "diploma mills" are less likely to accept you, but they have less to offer anyway for someone like you. As far as jobs, you are going to have trouble getting average jobs for average employers. Again, if you truly stand out in your chosen field, you can find a job that you love. Or you may have better luck making your own job by starting your own company. Regardless, if you are unschooled, you are going to have to prove yourself, promote yourself, and have a thick skin, because you will encounter rejection and misunderstanding.

  • @chanellaDaboss

    @chanellaDaboss

    8 жыл бұрын

    Phillip Wood Thank you so much for your response!Very informative!

  • @grievingmom

    @grievingmom

    8 жыл бұрын

    +PeaceLove&Wisdom In Canada, you can attend university as a mature student without those pre requisites in some courses and with an upgrade/update class in others. We have adult high school classes that do night school, day school and summer school to help upgrade also to the standard needed in the field you intend to go into. :)

  • @chanellaDaboss

    @chanellaDaboss

    8 жыл бұрын

    Tracy P Oh thank you very much :) i will look into that!

  • @kimberlyhovis5864
    @kimberlyhovis58642 жыл бұрын

    I think that it depends on the child.

  • @ruthcornforth6243
    @ruthcornforth62438 жыл бұрын

    What about the poor kids. Their parents don't have the resources to provide opportunities to learn.

  • @ruthcornforth6243

    @ruthcornforth6243

    8 жыл бұрын

    I agree with your comment, but often poor parents are unable to convey a love of learning to their children. School introduces a lot of poor kids to the middle class ethics of turning up on time, diligence and respect for knowledge. I've met so many teenagers with a disrespect for learning, an attitude very hard to break through.

  • @jkiik136

    @jkiik136

    7 жыл бұрын

    just a few place to find resources can include libraries (books, dvds and online resources), museums, clubs and social activity groups.

  • @castrx

    @castrx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not sure where you live but in my country the government actually pays us to homeschool so we can get resources

  • @naomisamantha822

    @naomisamantha822

    6 жыл бұрын

    I grew up as one of those kids. I was in grade 2 when I was 16. I'm now in university but it is a huge struggle for me to do essays and assignments. At least some of my siblings chose to go to school for themselves. My brother is now vice-sports captain and he wants to be an interior designer.

  • @mevirosteck

    @mevirosteck

    5 жыл бұрын

    Poor parents rely on public education so they have someone teaching their kids while they work. There are regulations and standards for a reason

  • @515aleon
    @515aleon3 жыл бұрын

    Summerhill? I'd say the ideas are older. It wa an actual school, but no lessons nor classes were required. The book was written in 1960.

  • @thomasdennis83
    @thomasdennis837 жыл бұрын

    really?

  • @beta447
    @beta4474 жыл бұрын

    I think coercive education was instituted more for purposes of class dominance in and of itself than out of any sort of necessity. Public schools ARE fundamentally bad. They are there to damage children and inhibit their intellectual development, controlling them mainly through fear and humiliation, whether implied, threatened, or actual. Good intentions on the part of teachers can't really fix this. I understand this woman's need to sooth the emotions of her audience, as you have to consider their wiring, but it needs to be said. The present system is morally indefensible. Great talk.

  • @avarina8418
    @avarina84185 жыл бұрын

    okay but a lot of kids are unmotivated and won't want to go and learn especially as teens,, plus think about college and jobs

  • @robertslut5916

    @robertslut5916

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Avarina most kids are unmotivated because they don’t go to school to learn ,they go so they don’t get in trouble! This means that when kids are in an environment where there is no one really forcing them to work they will struggle. Unschooling helps to motivate kids to learn because they do it because they want to. Children get into routines so if they’re not used to having self motivation they won’t bother whereas unschooled kids do have more self motivation as their routine is different because the work that they do is out of interest and they always look for ways it could benefit themselves or others!

  • @ritafernandes7423
    @ritafernandes74232 жыл бұрын

    Spain is in Europe...

  • @hereshotrod3873
    @hereshotrod38735 жыл бұрын

    Maybe unschooling isn't that bad.

  • @elfboi523
    @elfboi5238 жыл бұрын

    Homeschooling or unschooling is illegal where I live. Everybody must attend a conventional school. It's the law.

  • @ronpaulrevered

    @ronpaulrevered

    8 жыл бұрын

    +elfboi523 Be the change you want in the world. Protest, Organize, Educate

  • @elfboi523

    @elfboi523

    8 жыл бұрын

    RonPaul Revered At least we don't have any ignorant religious nutjobs over here who don't believe in evolution, because everybody gets to learn about that at school. And sex ed has become quite accurate recently, too (although there are protests from parents who don't want their children to learn about homosexuality).

  • @spacepirate55

    @spacepirate55

    8 жыл бұрын

    +elfboi523 Where do you live?

  • @AnarchistMetalhead

    @AnarchistMetalhead

    8 жыл бұрын

    +elfboi523 but lots of statist nutjobs that believe in socialism, which is more destructive than even extreme christianity

  • @elfboi523

    @elfboi523

    8 жыл бұрын

    AnarchistMetalhead I'm an anarchist who believes in socialism - horizontal socialism based upon solidarity and direct cooperation, without the need for a state.

  • @kimmysavemiley
    @kimmysavemiley4 жыл бұрын

    maybe most are teaching wrong

  • @karlabc9251
    @karlabc92515 жыл бұрын

    Those percentages total to more the 100%🤔 I assume she is also unschooled🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @loony1032

    @loony1032

    5 жыл бұрын

    So a person, or a number of people, in this study can pursue University education, work in creative feilds, work in STEM feilds, and be an entrepreneur at the same time. Or have any combination of traits talked about here. So it's going to equal more than 100%

  • @dahj5954

    @dahj5954

    4 жыл бұрын

    There can be overlapping .....

  • @Zero-pe3iq
    @Zero-pe3iq5 жыл бұрын

    Well if asked libertarians you would find that we do not thing schools effected or controlled by government(private is subject to restrictions and rules public is government controlled) are bad. The public schools are indoctrination camps. And don't prepare kids for college. They are both flawed and bad high IQ kids/young adults almost always do well in life despite their learning environment or history abuse for the most part. So it's about what school you go to if your high IQ, but if your low government school helps you very little. It's deeply flawed. "And the modern education system provided just that. It turned an illiterate population into a literate population."- Ciation needed were they illiterate? If so what makes you think that was the only purpose of the Prussian model? And is the Prussian model suitable for children who wish to be free not closed in with people they don't know for 7 hours a day not able to bond with their parents during that time? Is it moral to just leave your kids with other people for 7 hours a day for years if you have any other choice?

  • @omp199
    @omp1997 жыл бұрын

    What an incredibly naive speaker. Perhaps if she had been schooled properly, she would have a grasp of basic mathematics and would understand the concept of the student-teacher ratio. Even now, there is a dire shortage of knowledgeable people willing to teach children. She is proposing a system in which pretty much every individual child would need their own individual teacher, in order to guide them when their interests diverged from the interests of their peers. Most adults would have to be educators, and so every area of work other than education would collapse. Furthermore, the vast majority of these new educators would be unsuited for such a role. Educational standards would plummet. Literacy would plummet. There would be no safeguards against every religious fundamentalist, climate change denier, and flat-earther passing on their delusional beliefs to their children. Yes, such people raise children now, but currently many of those children are educated alongside people from different backgrounds who will challenge those beliefs, giving them a reasonable chance of breaking free of their parents' delusions. A world in which unschooling were the norm would be a world of illiterate wingnuts - even more than it is today. It would be an awful world to live in.

  • @omp199

    @omp199

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** "Used to be" is the right phrase, yes. Back in the 18th century, before school-based education became the norm. Back when most children were illiterate and could only look forward to a life of manual labour. Is that what you want us to return to? Your second paragraph only shows how uneducated you are. When I said that "literacy would plummet", I meant that the proportion of children who could read and write would rapidly descend to a level much lower than it is now. Your retort that "it's already there" would imply that you believe that the proportion of children who can read and write is already at a level much lower than it is now. That is clearly nonsense to anyone with a basic grasp of logic. Perhaps you need to go to school.

  • @omp199

    @omp199

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** I don't have that number to hand. Your question has nothing to do with what I am talking about. What I am saying is that _regardless_ of what the number is now, it would be _lower_ if children didn't go to school.

  • @msjkramey

    @msjkramey

    7 жыл бұрын

    TheBookWorm1718 most parents aren't equipped to teach their kids how to read. There's no correlation between student success and if the learned to read before school or not. That is what school is for after all And you're talking out of your ass as far as teachers go. Most teachers don't just hand out grades like candy and they actually give a shit about their students performance, as well as their emotional and physical well-being. These people care a lot; if they didnt, they'd find jobs that paid more

  • @clammerify

    @clammerify

    7 жыл бұрын

    don't listen to these Neanderthals they are probably swamped by picking their 4 kids up from school. You know, they have no time for things like teaching their kids and rather outsource it to someone else. Don't you know? How on earth would they be able to pay off that sweet 6 bedroom they can't really afford? Need to put in that 9-6 until retirement. But maybe they just made shitty choices in life and now need to have 3 subpar jobs just to make ends meet. Either way, their kids suffer in hands of others and barely know who their parents are.

  • @omp199

    @omp199

    7 жыл бұрын

    clamjuice Drop the sarcasm and the baseless fantasising. It's neither funny nor clever. Oh no, wait. Without the sarcasm and the baseless fantasising, your comment is literally empty. Never mind.