Learning the Aeldari “Art of the Trade” Will Leave Your Opponents In Utter RUIN…

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The most important skill you can learn when playing the Eldar at any level. Enjoy!!
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  • @SuperPyst
    @SuperPyst28 күн бұрын

    How to Eldar: You must be swift as the coursing river With all the force of a great typhoon With all the strength of a raging fire Mysterious as the dark side of the moon

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    Be an ELDAR!!! 😂

  • @GTXanatos13
    @GTXanatos1328 күн бұрын

    Don't forget the activation economy of something cheap like rangers, both on offense and defense. They still eat most of the fire of a squad of intercessors before going down, and that's an activation not being used to take out something more valuable, like the wing of windriders or shroud runners. On offense, you're happy to throw away 5 sniper shots to score on homers or some other "action" objective, the same could not be said for the shredding power of something like shadow spectres.

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    Absolutely agree! Your opponent still has to deal with that unit and on top of that Rangers can really mess with your opponent!

  • @AceTaxiaGaming
    @AceTaxiaGaming25 күн бұрын

    My best trade was deepsteiking warpspiders, killing a unit of pathfinders, fireand fading them onto the enemy objective: scoring capture enemy outpost, denying enemy primary score as well. They died next turn but this moment won me the game.

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    25 күн бұрын

    Yep!! Great trade! It’s not all about unit cost!

  • @MaxOVADrive
    @MaxOVADrive23 күн бұрын

    I love these in-depth strategy videos. Great job!

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    23 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much my friend!!

  • @ShockArcl1te
    @ShockArcl1te26 күн бұрын

    Spiritseer: "Don't forget, you can't have a bad trade if your units are already dead." 🧠

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    26 күн бұрын

    Haha 😂 I missed your comments man lmfao 🤣

  • @stamatisarvanitidis2430
    @stamatisarvanitidis243025 күн бұрын

    One thing I'd like to point out is, that you can trade down in points, meaning you trade a war walker for a venom, but you eliminate something that is valuable to your opponent and can cause you a lot of trouble.

  • @AceTaxiaGaming

    @AceTaxiaGaming

    25 күн бұрын

    I had a Tau player spend most of his shooting phase in a 1k game trying to kill 1 solitaire. We'll worth the trade

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    25 күн бұрын

    Yes true! Some units have a hidden value

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    25 күн бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @Slapdab
    @Slapdab28 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the content

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you for being awesome 😎

  • @phoenixgamingchris
    @phoenixgamingchris28 күн бұрын

    The trade game is an important one to know if you're going to play space elves of any sort!

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    Absolutely 100%!!

  • @phoenixgamingchris

    @phoenixgamingchris

    25 күн бұрын

    @@ProxyHammer1 Hope all is well for you, my friend! I'm continuing the quest to 1k subs. I'm so close. I may actually make a little money at this soon!

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    25 күн бұрын

    @@phoenixgamingchris Nice dude that is awesome! Let me know when this week you want to do that convo on fallout!

  • @phoenixgamingchris

    @phoenixgamingchris

    25 күн бұрын

    @@ProxyHammer1 I'll reach out to set it up within the next day!

  • @maxmagnus377
    @maxmagnus37728 күн бұрын

    14:26 Don't underestimate my power of rolling crappy! One recent game with Sisters I managed to, in about 20 miracle dice, not roll above a 4 more than twice. In that game I also managed to kill off an entire squad of 3 of MY OWN Arcos with a triple 1 on the hazardous roll xD

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    Lmfao 🤣 happens to me all the time my friend!!

  • @RhiannaAtriedes
    @RhiannaAtriedes24 күн бұрын

    How many squishy objective units like Rangers, Mandrakes, Warpsiders or even Beastpack should you have in an Eldar/Ynnari army? New player building to 2k and not sure how much to spend on those kinds of units

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    24 күн бұрын

    I’d say you want about 4-6 units dedicated to screening and secondary objective play. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqZ6169xnbm4lso.htmlsi=2-GBv4Y-zGenmgOl this video might help!

  • @RichWalk11
    @RichWalk1125 күн бұрын

    I disagree about Eldar generally being cost effective for trades because on a per unit basis we really aren't that cheap/cost effective and often are more expensive than equivalent units, especially comparing to armies which have their codex. Take the old foe Necrons, a Doomsday ark is 140 points and equivalent/better than a fire prism at 180. Similar story with the Tau Hammerhead Gunship. Moreover a Fire Prisms' Crystal Targeting matrix is redundant given the Battle Host ability and in order to actually benefit from linked fire you have to pay points for two of them. Are they good - yes? But how good they are is inflated when looking within the Eldar index, when comparing across other armies they don't shine as brightly. I don't think your examples help change my mind here. The first example given with the Avatar, Fire Prisms and Gladiator is poor and goes against most of your opening principles about what a good trade is. You've had to spend near 700 points (180 each for the fire prisms plus 335 for the avatar) to bait out and kill a Gladiator Lancer (160 points). This sequence resolves with the loss of a Gladiator (160 points) for to the loss of an Avatar (335 points) and is not repeatable either. To go back to the chess analogy this is like committing your queen and both rooks to trade your Queen for an opponents Rook. How is that a good trade for the Eldar at all? It would be much better with a Wraithlord (160 points) as its an even trade and potentially repeatable if you have multiple Wraithlords (which would also be fewer points overall), but you've still had to commit three units to kill one, assumed a fate dice and at least one stratagem to make it work reliably. The loss exchange is poor points wise, it's quite resource intensive and from an Army building perspective pretty inefficient compared to what other armies could put out. The second example, Paragon Warsuits and Vahl, is is a much better example of a trade, but I worry how those storm guardians got to the objective intact enough to survive the shooting phase in order to force the charge from the warsuits, especially if threatening to take an objective as they might attract attention from more than just the warsuits. An answer here could be a transport, which would have to be a Wave Serpent at 120 points, but again that makes the points needed to reliably pull of this specific sequence unbalanced with Eldar committing more to ensure it works (445 with the Wave Serpent to 315 for the Warsuits with Vahl as opposed to 325 without the Wave serpent but a greater risk). The third example is a good tactic, but it's not really a 'trade' its just a sacrifice because you come out 115 points down for nothing. Yes you get VP but that's just due to positioning and the units ability to deep strike enabling that position rather than it being a trade. It's also something that they could completely ignore if scoreboard pressure isn't going your way (possible given the issues with holding primary objectives Eldar have) or it's early game still. For fewer points Swooping Hawks (80 points) could achieve the same effect as the warp spiders (115 points), and for more points couldn't a Falcon (140 points) with Fire Dragons (85 points) in the back not only achieve the same VP score but also actually threaten those two Basilisks (150 points each)? Granted it's comparatively harder to hide the Falcon and might be easier for them to screen it's Deep Strike off. I don't think Eldar are that great at trades outside of the ability to threaten them across more of the battlefield due to deep strike, fast movement etc.... Most trades resolve at even points or marginal gains at best, but nearly all require commitment/concentration of multiple units to achieve, which likely means they often can't be repeated and don't scale well across the whole army. There aren't so many more Eldar units on the table compared to most armies that able to do decisive damage by themselves that we can afford to trade one for one, especially given how readily killable we are by comparison. I actually think Eldar suffer quite a lot from having good firepower but in low volumes per unit and therefore so often have to concentrate multiple units for effect. It forces you to be careful and efficient with how your concentrate the effort of those units without risking them all and I think this is where units like the Falcon/Fire Dragon combo are so good. Two units/One group actually has the ability to deal with most things. It represents a high output/low investment unit and one that doesn't necessarily rely on further support to threaten potentially up to two light vehicles a phase (one per unit). There aren't many instances in the index where this is true, especially for sub 250 points.

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    25 күн бұрын

    Trading isn’t all about point costs, in my first example the Avatar scored on primary and my Fire Prisms shot safely without fear of retaliation. So in reality because nothing died and I was able to bait out the Lancers I came out on top of that. Also if I drew deploy homers or extend I would have scored secondary points too. Eldar are fantastic at trading into elite enemies especially our aspect warriors as they do much more damage than their points would suggest if targeting the right units. Cheap fodder like guardsman can be swept up by things like windriders no problem and we then have fire and fade to jump back to safety. I agree though that you have to concentrate your forces carefully but I don’t think the examples I provided were “bad trades” because my definition of “trade” goes beyond simple points costs.

  • @GrimgorRulez
    @GrimgorRulez28 күн бұрын

    Good one 😅

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    😉 my pleasure!

  • @maxmagnus377
    @maxmagnus37728 күн бұрын

    Math math math! Math out what your units are capable of against what you think you'll be facing. Go unit per unit if need be, grab some dice and start rolling. All the tricks in the world won't save you if you under- or over-commit to a trade. "If 5 of mine charge 10 of his, what can I expect in a vacuum?" "What if I use this buff?" "What if he uses this strat?" Knowing beforehand is literally more than half the battle. Spectres are supposedly great anti-heavy infantry, but after mathing it out, I know that in a vacuum they'll reliably kill 1,5 terminator. Spoiler: Spectres are way, WAY better at shooting light infantry with their dispersed profile than they are at heavies with their focused profile xD

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    Absolutely!! Mathhammer is very important to know in general, and yes Spectres are not great termie killers as it turns out 🫤 learned that in 9th when trying to get them to work.

  • @davidfeline5850
    @davidfeline585028 күн бұрын

    Comments for Isha. 🙂

  • @ProxyHammer1

    @ProxyHammer1

    28 күн бұрын

    My Asur! 😎

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