Everyone is complaining about his Greek pronunciation. I just feel a bit let down that, with a name like Hans-Friedrich Mueller, and straight-up Beethoven hair, he doesn't have a thick German accent.

@robertwendel445

3 жыл бұрын

He said he came from German ancestry not that he was from Germany,

@StavsT

2 жыл бұрын

This is Erasmian Greek (ancient greek with Dutch accent)

@nikidoudoumi5560

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no not another one, butchering

@gamergamer1296

2 жыл бұрын

@@StavsT his pronunciation doesn't have anything to do with Greek. I admire his excitement and knowledge however he can't even pronounce the words correctly let alone have an ancient Greek pronunciation

@vachikhacopian3890

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamergamer1296 Please stop with the pity. Pity makes you speakers of modern Greek sound petty. Professor Mueller was trying to teach, as he clearly stated, "restored Ancient Greek." You noticed the beta sounded like a b, not a v, as in modern Greek. Also, the g is always pronounced as a hard g, never soft, as it is sometimes in modern Greek (like Giannis or gyro). Prof. Mueller apologized for his American accent more than once. To mock him is to mock Ancient Greek. The man is trying to celebrate your ancestors. Is it hard for you to focus on the importance of what he is trying to accomplish. Making fun of his accent says much about your level of intelligence.

Anyone who promotes, speaks and encourages the Greek Language, ancient or modern, is a friend of mine ... καλά κάνει ο καθηγητής!!

@Hans4Modeltrains

4 жыл бұрын

Manuel Pippos , Γεια σου φίλε, έμαθα τα ελληνικά για 4 χρόνια στο σχόλιο στη Ολλανδία. Και μου αρέσουν τα αρχεία ελληνικά και διαβάζω την Οδύσσεια λίγο

@dev4424

3 жыл бұрын

i m from Bangladesh. apparently my mother tongue is Bengali. but i want to learn Greek. the pure greek. what sources should i look for brother.?

@strangerinastrangeland5314

3 жыл бұрын

I am Russian, but some of my ancestors were Greek. I want to learn the language now. I am 23 and I hope it is not late.

@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014

3 жыл бұрын

I am a Philhellene, i consider Ancient Greek to Humanity s'best language ever

@tool4811

3 жыл бұрын

@@dev4424 Hi there friend! Probably very late to answer but I would like to suggest a way of learning modern greek. At first, you might want to get a good grasp of the alphabet and get used to the pronunciation of some combinations of letters. Surprisingly you will not have an extreme difficulty in doing so. Then, despite the context you should read aloud some small greek articles and attempt to write them afterwards in order to exercise your speaking and writing skills. After a week or so, you should grab some basic grammar, such as personal pronouns and fundamental verbs or nouns to boost your vocabulary

I'm Greek and I didn't even realize he was speaking Greek when he supposedly spoke in ancient Greek, all I heard were a bunch of American sounding syllables

@joannagrimeki7415

5 жыл бұрын

because he uses the erasmus-restorted-ancient greek version...we greeks know the original non restort version of ancient greek...this is the difference!

@thomaszaccone3960

5 жыл бұрын

Well, i guess modern Greek sounds more like Ancient Greek than Anglo-Greek, but Ancient Greek and modern Greek are not identical. Homeric Greek is from probably around 600 BC. That's over 2,000 years ago. Homeric Ancient Greek is older and Mycenaean Greek is 3,000 years old and used Minoan symbols, not the Ancient Greek Alphabet. Try reading something in Old English like Beowulf. That is only 1000 years ago or so. Admittedly modern Greek is probably a lot closer to Ancient Greek than Old English is to modern Greek. You all did not have Normans. I think he needs a haircut.

@devinreese1109

5 жыл бұрын

modern greek is the best way to learn a Hellenic accent way of speaking (and really the only way). However, modern greeks in my opinion do not speak like the ancient greeks. the pronunciation has changed. You can somewhat tell from the ancient greek. Also, each area had its own dialect and most likely somewhat accent, all of which is lost, except what we can get from studying the spelling in inscriptions. So, in this case we have to accept that we may never know exactly. Hellenes also went through many different stages, as you can also see the society and architecture did. the style and alphabet of alexander's day is hardly the style of the minoans. its a world of difference at every stage. which is precisely one reason why they are so fascinating. So much good stuff and so different. but you can not get a precise way of pronouncing hellene without listening to a native speaker. But I do not think it was the same. We have plenty of evidence pronunciations change in all languages over time. For instance: H was once a consonant in greek and so was digamma a V, (not B for v.). Hta took the place of long e or a in Ionic dialects, not a long iota. Y is pronounced as a v in au and eu but as a semivowel that would correspond to a u-vowel in origin, (and does in every other indo-european language), not a long i, which is how it's pronounced now. Eventually at some point H was pronounced like a long i--I am not sure when this happened, but, people speculate it was around the time of koine, but I am not sure what is in hard evidence in archaeology. Also: the accent in modern greek is all one accent. There are three in ancient greek, because it was probably a pitch accent: just like in vedic, to which ancient greek is most comparable to in languages. Without the rough breathing being pronounced an H why would you need to write it? Today it isn't pronounced. That doesn't make any sense. People don't write something they don't pronounce. Like in french. Originally the -s was pronounced. Originally louis (louie) was written and pronounced Clovis. This metamorphosis is actually an ongoing process and we have evidence for it at every time. The mycenaeans spoke and wrote a different language than classical greek and then both are different from modern. The word kalos was originally Kalvos (v-digamma) why write digamma if you dont pronounce it? Eventually you don't. But some languages keep something for along time in spelling that isn't pronounced. Originally, whent hey were first making writing this wasn't the case. They just changed the spelling. Well, it's likely it was all different at different times, evolving, changing. Study your greek dialects, sanskrit and epigraphh (inscriptions) from each area. Study your Platwnas: the heraclitean reality. Reality always changing. Only the forms (ideas) survive.

@heronimousbrapson863

5 жыл бұрын

No one can necessarily assume that the ancient Greeks spoke with the same pronounciation and accent as modern Greeks anyway.

@amkju

5 жыл бұрын

He's speaking in an anglicized version of Ancient Greek pronunciation, as he says in the video. While the ancient pronunciation is known to scholars (not in perfect detail, but relatively well), it's rarely followed that closely because it's just easier assimilate the pronunciation to your native language. And it's not like people go around conversing in Ancient Greek anyway. People study the language mostly to be able to understand the ancient texts.

I love the way he teaches

I must say, I like his teaching style; it's firm, authoritative and confident. I damn well feel that I'm bound to learn something if I stick around!

If you want to read Greek the letter " Pi " should be pronounced like " Pee " not like " Pie ", because the letter " I " in Hellenic is pronounced as one short sound ' i ' or ' ee '. The same for Ι, Φ, Χ and Ψ, the proper is Eeota, Fee, Hee, Psee and not Aïota, Faï, Haï, Psy, this is ridiculous.

@eric_welch

4 жыл бұрын

we learned how to properly say the greek letters in my physics classes and i was very fortunate to have a professor in my masters who was Greek herself :)

@zerocooljpn

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, that's sooo annoying. He's supposed to be teaching the alphabet, that should include how to read the alphabet in the language he's teaching, not English...

@evelynl.4554

3 жыл бұрын

eric welch I’m not sure if you paid attention, but the professor clear states that he is teaching a certain type of pronunciation for Ancient Greek not modern Greek....most likely your teacher taught you modern greek

@ploptart4649

3 жыл бұрын

@@evelynl.4554 He also says he's bending towards American sounds because he's teaching in the US. Americans say pi like pie, and the English say it like pee. I agree, he clearly justifies the way he's saying everything, and then said learning should be a pleasure, not a torture. None of these people even watched this video, and they definitely didn't hear that last part. God, people are a drag.

@EvaFuji

3 жыл бұрын

@@evelynl.4554 iota in ancient greek is ee not ai. αι=ai like in μαθηταί ι=ee like in ίππος you didn't pay attention

This is the most encouraging video I've ever seen. This is how all subjects should be taught. This guy feels like the type to sincerely say "good job" when you make a mistake, because that's how you learn.

I absolutely adore his teaching, it makes me actually want to learn.

@soundsoftheheart3164

3 жыл бұрын

Hey. Is ancient Greek still spoken? Like I don't want to learn it but it's no longer spoken

@helenajunqueira4872

3 жыл бұрын

@@soundsoftheheart3164 hey so this language is a dead language which means isn't still spoken

@ellinmakedon1216

2 жыл бұрын

@@helenajunqueira4872 are you sure?

@internetguy8075

2 жыл бұрын

@@soundsoftheheart3164 Just learn modern Greek if you want to learn Greek that people still use in day to day life. There are some enthusiasts that can speak some ancient Greek (I think usually Koine, maybe some Attic), but the idea behind learning it is mostly that you can read old texts, like the New Testament for example. The further back in time you go, the less able anyone would be to actually learn the full language, even if they're great at learning new languages. In Homeric Greek texts a huge chunk of the vocabulary in the texts only occurs once, so we just don't know enough to really get to a fully conversational level as far as I understand it. The people who do speak some form of ancient Greek are so few and far between that you'll probably have a hard time getting in touch with anyone to practice. I expect Latin might be *slightly* easier in that regard. Take this with a grain of salt, I'm not an expert.

I"m so surprised that I already know all the letters in shape and in pronunciation, I am a physics teacher. Awesom!

@garymillar169

4 жыл бұрын

If your a physics teacher you shouldn't be surprised by that at all

@Francescomonti60

4 жыл бұрын

That's very cool, but can your physic translate homer's texts?

@johnjustice8478

3 жыл бұрын

You are a "Nature Indicator," you said, Said, just once, once.

@timelesswiftie

2 жыл бұрын

i mean if you're a teacher your grammar should be correct- it's not, firstly it's i'm, i apostrophe m, not a quote, and secondly, it's awesome with an e

Great lesson! I absolutely adore the works of Homer - one of the best writers of all time. Your lesson motivates me to study Ancient Greek (here and there when I can find a free moment).... Thank you very much.

@danaron3348

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you Matthew 👍 I am also here because I would like to be able to read Homer, Thucydides and ancient poets in classical Greek. I realise that it will take me a long time to achieve this because I only started two weeks ago and I'm no spring chicken but I'm going to get there! People like you are inspirational.

This is by far the best lesson on languages I've ever experienced. Excellent job!

This man's performance is hilarious. No shade on his teaching of course.

At 30:21, in the verb προϊάπτω, diairesis (or διαλυτικά, as we call in in Greek) is been used. This is used for the spelling, in order to distinguish between "oi" and "i", which in turn proves that without diairesis, the diphthong "οι" is spelled as ι and not as ο-ι. Unless Erasmus knew better than the Greeks, how to speak their language.

@badsocks756

2 жыл бұрын

it's well understood that no one actually spoke Greek in the way Erasmus thought; nevertheless, it is now the standard across the world for how students learn to pronounce ancient Greek

@kindnessasgreatasthesea1158

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it makes no sense. Without diairesis they pronounce οι as "oi" and with diairesis they pronounce οϊ as "oi", which is the same sound.

What an excellent orator! Thoroughly engaging and confident in his approach. For those who truly want to learn, the accent is nether here nor there. For decades I have read and studied interlinear versions of the New Testament along with Vines Expository to elicit a fuller, richer understanding. The clarity and beauty of phrase does not need an accompanying accent to resonate with me. Bravo.

When you’re studying engineering and you already know the Greek alphabet 😎

@angeloritofasanaro9850

4 жыл бұрын

日本

@angeloritofasanaro9850

4 жыл бұрын

ε σ Σ Δ Γ

@angeloritofasanaro9850

4 жыл бұрын

It similar to i fenician berberi alphabet used by all mediterranean before Mohamed invasion

@Francescomonti60

4 жыл бұрын

If you know the alphabet (part of it) but you don't know how to translate or speak it isn't very useful.

@eric_welch

4 жыл бұрын

just because you know it doesn't mean you know how to use it :p Physics teaches the real way to use these letters :p

Thank you！Learned ancient Greek 5 years ago and it is still so intriguing！（compared to Latin and ancient Hebrew，the ancient Greek is always my favorite😍😍

From India.... thanks you very much I lockdown 2020 I have been learning Greek . Russian. Japanese Urdu french Portuguese Spanish and sanskrit

I'm so glad I came across your channel today. I hope to watch and learn more. You make it fun, interesting and memorable, which makes learning language easy and enjoyable. Thanks.

Having read some of the other comments, it's hard to believe that so many know so much more. I have never heard so much wisdom concentrated in so short a space. Perhaps that's because I need to get out more. But, on the other hand I have noted that knowledge and wisdom become much diluted when spread among the entire population.

To my recollection, one morning all Greek people (wherever they lived), woke up and suddenly decided to start speaking their language differently! But this doesn't make sense! The truth is not so complicated as shown in all these comments: Ancient and Modern Greek is one and only language. It was inherited from generation to generation from ancient eras till today. May be modern greek came to be a simplified form of the ancient one, but it is the same language. If someone is interested to have an idea about nearly ancient accent and pronounciation, it could be a good idea to hear greek as spoken by older people still alive, originated from Pontus (Black Sea), Cyprus, Creta, Kappadokia, etc. Nothing to do with what Erasmus stated! Anyway, many thanks for video. It was a good reason for thoughts sharing.

@polytrelaras1

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same ..how is it possible that all greek speaking enclaves all over the world is speaking in more or less form? Erasmus was speaking Dutch.. It would be very difficult for a non greek to speak it without distortion or/and oversimplification.

@Atmirilias1

2 жыл бұрын

No, it is not the same as ancient greek. Ancient Greek is a different language. Using the same alphabet does not mean they are the same languages. English is not a Latin language because it uses the Latin alphabet.

@MARS_OPLOMACHUS

2 жыл бұрын

@@Atmirilias1 if you say so...

@gaelicreaction1049

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, because those regions kept the same pronunciation for 2,000 years and didn't evolve at all 🙄

@TMPOUZI

11 ай бұрын

@@Atmirilias1 English has become a latin language because a great amount of its vocabulary comes from French/Latin etymologicaly. On the other way most vocabulary of modern Greek derives directly from ancient Greek and the changes of pronunciation in MG are also ancient. Till 2nd century AD they spoke it pretty much as today

Absolutely captivating teaching style. It's a Yes from me!

Been working on Greek now for about a year, and just found this guy. Not sure if I would have liked it a year ago but am really enjoying his lessons now. Love his flamboyant and dramatic presentation. It’s actually fun!

I am a teacher so I give you respect for your teachings. I have been reading ancient Greek for more than 33 years now and with all due respect , i disagree with the pronunciation given in this video. That's my right. The iota should sound like eeotah in english transliteration, not the way it is presented. The 2nd letter should sound like Veetah in english transliteration not Beta. In the Hebrew language, the second letter is bet or vet depending if the little dot is inside the letter and other example. If people wants to learn ancient Greek i would recommend to look for a Greek teacher specialized in ancient Greek. When i was young, my friends in Greek schools had to learn Archaia Ellinika. it was mandatory.

@kalebg.7507

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, I started laughing after his pronunciation of alpha. He read it in English instead of Greek which like he even said 'a' is not supposed to sound the same. I have been learning Koine for the last 4 years so this video was cringe.

During the Roman Empire, Greek was actually the preferred language of the Roman upper classes when speaking among themselves.

I feel like watching Dionysus or Chiron.

@Katze123

4 жыл бұрын

PJ?

@nays067

3 жыл бұрын

Rick riordan?

5:15 u forgot 'aight ima hed out'

Great teacher !! From Venezuela learning ancient Greek in 2021

Love your knowledge and pronunciation. Cheers.

I love it. Pls post the 2nd lecture for the benefit of all. You are doing a GREAT job.

@opheliasfall

7 жыл бұрын

Think the idea is to show you one lecture to peek your interest so you'll pay for the whole set of lectures.

@antoinekanavaros7322

4 жыл бұрын

RAJNIL MUKHERJEE Yes he is doing a great job slaughtering the greek language

REALLY enjoyed this by the way.

You pronounce the letters of alphabet with english influence. "i" is ee not ai. We don't say psai but psee . Also we say "d" thelta (like the sound of the article the) for the sound of d we use the combination NT. And the letter T is called taf. Because the combination of a+u makes either f or v sound.

@TMPOUZI

11 ай бұрын

he went for the pronunciation of classical ages (5th century bC) which was different from the later Byzantine. But I agree with the i (ee). Also in classical Athens ει was already pronounced i or e, not ei. The rest of what he said is erasmian. What ruins it completely though, is the heavy american accent

I don't know how you manage to make ‹κοινή› sound like ‘queen A’

@olaf2627

5 жыл бұрын

He pronounces it perfectly according to all ancient greek pronounciation guides I've seen.

@koulouris7303

3 жыл бұрын

Olaf Sorry it’s a year later,but he pronounces it wrong,the guides you’ve read cannot compare to real life language and in greece we don’t say K-o-ee-n-e but k-ee-n-ee

@RANDOMNAME-kj1zv

3 жыл бұрын

@@koulouris7303 How you pronounce it in modern Greece is irrelevant to how it was pronounced 2000 years ago. Only 1000 years ago in English “Knight” would have been pronounced “K-nee-gh-t” where now it’s pronounced “Nite”, and “Knife” would have been “K-nee-ve”. A lot changes over time.

So I'm curious to those of you who have who have learned ancient Greek in school, in Greece..... Do you use the accent that people normally use to speak Greek? I remember when my Pappou would speak ancient Greek to me he would just use the regular accent that we used to speak modern Greek... I feel that the modern Greek accent is the closest thing we have to knowing what the ancient Greeks sounded like....

@MARS_OPLOMACHUS

3 жыл бұрын

Believe me, as a native Greek I find his Greek hilarious.

@dadaniti7822

3 жыл бұрын

We know that they had a different pronunciation but: 1.since we are learning it not as a foreign language but as a previous form of ours 2.since it is still not clear how they spoke and erasmian pronunciation is full of mistakes 3.since it comes easier, after all none has to speak it, (sometimes we do it for fun though) We use the modern pronunciation

@michelaristegui1342

3 жыл бұрын

'I feel that the modern Greek accent is the closest thing we have to knowing what the ancient Greeks sounded like....' Is it really scientific? I'm not sure it's a matter of feeling.

@michelaristegui1342

3 жыл бұрын

Being native Greek is not relevant, I'm afraid.

@alexjann5802

2 жыл бұрын

@@michelaristegui1342 more relevant than being Dutch

Thank you so much!

Thank you learned alot 😊😊

Very helpful lecture indeed.

''restored classical pronunciation''?! Well, I would say it's more a "distortion'' of the classical pronunciation. It's really remarkable, why the western countries adopted a pronunciation was offered from a Dutchman (Erasmus) and ignored the pronunciation that the Greeks themselves used for their own language !

@Hans4Modeltrains

4 жыл бұрын

dejavuGR , yes indeed, he pronounce the diphtone ευ correct instead of what Erasmus did. He pronounced it with Dutch diphtone ui When I was in Greece, they were very suprised that we in Western European countries, pronounce the ευ in ancient Greek different, I explained them it is pronouncation according to Erasmus

@mohamedgo9403

4 жыл бұрын

Make a video and show us what you know instead of this saying of yours.

Excellent teaching! I am hooked! Been wanting to learn NT Greek forever, but never got down to it. Now in quarantine because of international travel, I am locked in to learn. ;) ;)

@TheGreatCourses

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words, Anne! That's the best way to keep yourself entertained while you're quarantined. 😉 Never stop learning!

I love how he teaches

I have to know English just to understand better my own language. It is kind of sad but I am really happy at the same time for finding out this video.

Excellent ! Ευχαριστώ !

That intro was amazing 👏

I’m learning Ancient Greek and this tutorial has been a big help 👍🏻 does anyone know if this course is still available, it’s not clear on the website, thanks

@TheGreatCourses

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Charlie, yes, you can find it here: www.thegreatcoursesplus.com/ancient-greek-civilization

Thanks for introducing vocabulary. It was great

I love this guy!

Wow! It's great lesson and excellent teaching for us!

This is the pronunciation that I learned in high school, and throughout the years I found that it did not seem to flow naturally with what I was reading. It's not real. I think you should commit to the authentic ancient pronunciation or at least modern Greek pronunciation if you want to claim that you are "speaking" the language.

great teaching, like to see more by him

I love this course.

this makes me wanna play Age of Mythology

@TheGreatCourses

6 жыл бұрын

These courses can do that. In this part of the office it can also kick off a few campaign missions from Zeus: Master of Olympus!

Very interesting, ευχαριστώ!

I learn ancient Greek from grandfathers they used to live in a remote part of Anatolia the region is call it Pontus or karadeniz in Turkish

@AmazonWarriorQueen

4 жыл бұрын

London Power, that’s real cool! I’ve been wanting to learn Pontic Greek myself, but I don’t know where I can find reliable sources to learn it. You are lucky to have family from that region to help you!

@metis9692

4 жыл бұрын

@@AmazonWarriorQueen come blacksea))

@StergiosMekras

3 жыл бұрын

Pontic Greek is one of the dialects closest to ancient Greek so... win-win?

Great lecture sir.

The set is fine

How come your pronunciation of certain letters doesn't reflect their Greek spelling? For example, you pronounce "alpha" with an "a" sound like "cat" instead of "father." And you pronounce "iota" with an "i" sound like "pie" instead of "police" or "hit." Please advise!

This is a jewel! A gold mine! The Greek alphabet with pronunciation, spoken words, diphthongs, split diphthongs, diacritical markings! I have never heard anyone else say that language is felt by all the senses (my summary). So correct! I am trilingual (English, German and Spanish) and I experience a change in personality depending on which language I speak. You deliver your lesson, slowly, patiently and with verve. I will of course subscribe to "The Great Courses Plus" to continue my study of Ancient Greek. This is a huge contribution to learning Ancient Greek.

Great lecture where can I see lesson 2.

@opheliasfall

7 жыл бұрын

You have to buy it. This is an intro to the lecture series for sale with Great Courses.

Thank you for the video! Amazing and motivating! I like your English a lot! And great teacher! One doesn’t have to be perfect in order to teach; it’s good enough to know how to give the knowledge further! And that’s exactly the case of this teacher! I like to study with him and don’t care about the accent: no one Ancient Greek will be angry with me about American accent, if I would be able to find the existing one at the meantime 😂

Also it is veta,like in video ,beta is made by combining m(μ) with p(π) ,μπ.

JUST WHAT I NEEDED!!😌😌😌✨

I think you are an excellent teacher. You make it fun, interesting and relevant. You are getting a lot of flack from our Modern eta centric Greeks who claim to have the correct pronunciation. I would advise them to listen to Old English and try to claim the same argument via Modern English. I don't want to give the impression that the Erasmian pronunciation is a truthful rendition of the way Greek sounded in Athens 2000 years ago but it is used in universities the world over. I can listen to an Iliad recital from an Indian, German or American and still understand it because they use a common standard. The only truth in pronunciation is that it is always changing. Listen to an 1888 recording of William Gladstone and you can hear the shifts of of little more than a hundred years.

@StergiosMekras

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that the "modern" Greek pronunciation is far closer to the "ancient" one than the Erasmian will ever be. There certainly has been a shift in both consonants and vowels over the centuries, but these changes are fairly well documented (give or take a century or two for each). The Erasmian pronunciation was never "accurate" to any degree and even Erasmus would attest that.

@StavsT

2 жыл бұрын

My family speaks an old form of Greek closer to Ancient rather than modern and it doesn't sound at all like Erasmian. Erasmian Greek is an old Dutch pronunciation of ancient greek.

@StavsT

2 жыл бұрын

The spelling may be correct but in the end of the day it's still a foreigner speaking it leaving a large possibility for mispronunciation.

It's so hard to see a professor not even trying to reduce his accent.

@Aditya-te7oo

2 жыл бұрын

Yuri Radavchuk Yeah man.

This is a fantastic lesson! I love you managed to explain some of the diacritical signs.

7:32 I know I'm going to be in for a great lesson when he says alpha is pronounced like the a in father and then pronounces the a in alpha like in cat or cake

I can't but dislike the aspiration in κ, π and τ. But I guess he's right that life is too short.

You are awesome! Thank you for putting this on KZread

This guys lectures on The Pagan World are friggin fantastic.

Diphthongs are pronounced as "two utterances." The difference in pronunciation between a monophthong and a diphthong may be subtle but it is there, as Sanskritists know. This bloke's very present day in his teaching

Thank you!! You are such a brilliant teacher! THANK YOUUU!!!

Love it!!

this is just little. is there a whole Playlist? links plz.

ΣΥΓΧΑΡΗΤΗΡΙΑ !

I think he has great style of the stuff

I love this guy

Anglophones have such a thick characteristic accent in whatever language they attempt to learn. It's remarkable.

Μπράβο για την αγάπη στα αρχαία Ελληνικά όμως η προφορά του αλφαβήτου δεν είναι σωστή .Είναι όμως πολύ εύκολο να διορθωθεί .

Is it possible or worth it to learn ancient greek on my own?

Will I be able to read Plato and the gospels in the original after this?

I like your way of teaching the Ancient Greek. I'm from Russia, I think there are two ways of reading Ancient Greek texts: Erasmian and Ecclesiastic. And I like them both😄

This was a really interesting lesson!!! I enjoyed it a lot!!!

@TheGreatCourses

3 жыл бұрын

That's great, we are glad to hear this!

Where do I get more of his classes?

I dont even speak Greek, I speak Spanish but even I winced at his pronunciation

@heronimousbrapson863

5 жыл бұрын

Are you implying that Greek spoken with a hispanic accent would sound more correct?

@johnr9763

5 жыл бұрын

Claro, pero la pronunciacion ha cambiado en 2500 anos! Lo que pasa es que las vocales de griego clasico habrian sido vocales puras y sencillas como las de espanol, o major dicho, como las de Castilla, El ingles tiene muchos diphthongs que no existen en otros idiomas. Y esto empeoro su pronunciacion. Yo escribe en espanol sin poner los acentos, solo porque el ordenador es coreano y no me permite escribirlos.

@johnr9763

5 жыл бұрын

y escribi la palabra escribi incorrectamente.

@servantofaeie1569

11 ай бұрын

​@@heronimousbrapson863Much, much more correct. Still not completely accurate though.

We say "zed" for Z (in NZ). In the US they say Z which is o.k. Just something I am not used to.

Although it follows an artificial pronounciatio, i.e., Erasmus, it is very a good lecture.

Awesome lesson 🫶

@TheGreatCourses

8 ай бұрын

We are glad you liked it.

Is anyone else learning this not only for linguistics reasons and also being a science enthusiast(Knowing that science is an advanced language that is a smoothie of ancient greek, latin and english)?

@roman2164

2 жыл бұрын

And as expected, A lot of this is used by science and maths students every day like mu(micro) and delta(Change in) or lambda(wavelength)

Hello, I'm curious to know how do you spell and pronounce the greek gods preferably, Zeus, Saturn, Jupiter, Diana & Mercury please?

@AmazonWarriorQueen

4 жыл бұрын

G. Bru. Ya’know Zeus and Jupiter are the same god?? Jupiter is literally the Roman adaptation of the Greek god, Zeus.

Hello I was wondering if anybody could help me with a translation, I am wanting to get a tattoo of the Socrates quote “i know that i know nothing”, but I dont want it to be in Modern Greek cause that would be inaccurate, so if anyone could help me with the correct grammar and spelling of said quote in Attic, spoken by Plato if im not mistaken, would be much appreciated !!

@michaelthegreat6171

6 жыл бұрын

yurf nurf That would be : ' ἕν οἶδα, ὅτι οὐδέν οἶδα '

thanks for this language..

Amazing!

The link is broken, is this course still on-line?

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Helpful info; glad I ran across this. Can't help but wonder if Θάλασσα is where Tallahassee's name came from (which is NOT on the coast hehe).

This guy is awesome

Shocking pronunciation 🙄 But I admire his passion

Great ... even though his pronunciation cannot shake off the 'Anglic'

Just as Greek texts can tell how Imperial Latin was pronounced Latin texts about Greek matters can show us how words in Attic Greek were pronounced.

I think that Xi, Pi, Phi, Khi, Psi should have to be called Ksee, Pee, Phee, Khee as the Ancient Greeks didn't pronounce I as the Anglo-Saxons do... Same with Mu and Nu, in which the U seems to have been pronounced like the French U and the German Ü. However I'm French myself and I know that our pronounciation of Ancient Greek is also biaised.

Can anyone tell me the spelling of his greeting? Does it mean 'welcome'? 'Hidete' or something similar. Thanks.

It is very difficult for an American to pronounce a long ē or a long ō: they must say ‘ei‘ and ‘ou‘, pronouncing ē and ō as diphthongs, unless one has learned a modern language or Latin with good pronunciation. Concerning the Erasmian pronunciation: It is not necessary to follow Erasmus to find a good ancient pronunciation, for we know from Latin many details of the pronunciation of the classical Greek: 1) Words beginning with Ἥρα are always written in Latin with ‘Hera‘ , not ‘Ira‘. E.g.: Hēraclēum, Hēraclīdēs. Greek ει could be transferred by i or e, as in ‘Alexandréa‘ or ‘Alexandría‘, i.e. it must have been in Greek between i and e. 2) Also, we know from Latin that β was always b, e.g. barbitos = βάρβιτος. 3) In classical times there was not yet the ‘spirantisation‘ of the tenues φ θ χ (ph th ch) (except θ in Doric, but that is not classical). Gellius tells us that Greek is more beautiful than Latin because it does not have the ‘ugly letter = littera foeda‘ f (“lingua Graeca est eo pulchrior quam Latina quod f litteram non habet“). 4) ει, η, ι, οι, υ, υι are in the Neogreek pronunciation all pronounced as i, what cannot be genuine. And if we study Greek in Germany, we have to translate into ancient Greek. If we used the Neogreek pronunciation we should make so many mistakes that it would be extremely impractical.