I wish my old friend/ boss was still here for me to show him this. Curious if he had ever seen or done this. He had over 40 years of being an arborist/climber and passed away from cancer last year. Wildest 8 years of my life. RIP Don!

I can see a lot of use for this in urban tree felling. This ain’t for novices, but for pros, being able to protect low walls, planters, raised beds, and especially tree-surrounding expensive tile patios or wooden decks from having the trunk smash into them etc, is awesome. People say this takes too long, but in those specific, but fairly common situations with urban trees, this can actually save a lot of time not having to set up crash bags/blankets, hoping it’s enough to protect what you have to protect from a falling trunk, when the budget precludes a crane. I think clients will appreciate it too.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Agreed

@dougdayboll4424

Ай бұрын

Absolutely I'm using it here on a farm it's a lot less risk for damage

@MrLyckegard

23 күн бұрын

Whole video is like 8 minutes... How much in a hurry are you? (Also, how many extra seconds do we talk about?)

As a chainsaw instructor and amateur KZreadr myself, I salute you! I had thought this cut was too complicated and time consuming to teach, but you proved me wrong! I’ve seen time and time again people rushing the felling cut and causing half an hour hard graft sorting out the mess afterwards. An extra minute getting the felling cut perfect and anticipating everything that could go wrong, is always time well spent. Good job sir!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated buddy, thanks for the kind words

I don't leave comments on KZread. But I'm making an exception today. Thank you for sharing! I used this to take down a 40ft sweet gum which was leaning over my chain link fence. I wanted to drop it without damaging the fence and this is exactly what I needed! I made these cuts above the fence line and was able to section the tree once it was down without impacting the fence. Thank you!

@themightycrixus1131

2 күн бұрын

Why did you want to get rid of the Sweetgum? Had enough of the alien pinecones?

Finally someone explains WHY to use this cut. Thank you!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

No problem

@col0342

Ай бұрын

I'd appreciate more hints on when to NOT use this cut.

@matthiasburger2315

Ай бұрын

@@col0342 always

@kennnva551

Ай бұрын

Use it to keep the trunk from crushing something below it. Have seen this performed on trees protruding through decks.

@Raspukek-fu8un

16 күн бұрын

keklol. imagine being u, huz unable to understood himself such simpol thing.

Fascinating to learn about the 'KEY NOTCH' technique for tree falling - such an invaluable skill for precision and safety. 🌲🔑

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Absolutely! Glad you enjoyed it

Well executed. Great explanation of use. This is a training video. Notes to a lot of homeowners: If you have a "safety chain" or "anti-kickback chain" a plunge cut may be very difficult to nearly impossible. if you haven't got training besides watching you tube, a plunge cut might be more advanced than you think.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Well said!

@phild8095

Ай бұрын

@@ClimbingArborist Maybe a video for your followers using a safety chain. Why and how they are made. And what homeowners should do.

@pennyan2057

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing watching him do it, " I'm gonna be able to do that with my Poulin????, how do I know if my saw has a safety chain?? also , seems like you would need a 60-70cc saw with ample power. Don't think I want to try this.

@integr8er66

Ай бұрын

​@@pennyan2057You don't need much power, power only = speed, I cut mostly with my ms180 Sthil, I have a 290, but that is reserved for big logs cutting them to woodstove length, its too heavy to haul around unless you really need it

@TheDuckofDoom.

24 күн бұрын

​@@integr8er66 Power is also needed for large wood because of the number of teeth engaged. For the really big stuff with long bars, a lot of pros will use a skip-tooth chain to reduce the tooth count in half for both less stress on the chain and to avoid clogging the cut with wood chips. Bigger powerheads can also deliver more bar oil which is nessesary for longer bars (This is why a 460 is limited to about 32 inch, the oil adjustment is maxed out). I also know folks that don't cut too much big wood so they use a standard complement chain but they still use an extra long bar to avoid bending over as much when bucking.

Being an old carpenter, I loved seeing this. Thinking about how to make physics work in your favour. Very cool. Things like this are good for business too. Showing that you are a master of your trade. Impressive.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! 😃

I like it. Even if you're just cutting some firewood it you still get some benefits from it, better ergonomics for limbing, can back a small trailer under it after felling so you don't have to lift as much after. If you're working sandy or muddy ground you can avoid sinking the tree into that. And it should dry fast on the stump if you just want to leave it like that. Or if you just want to make a place to sit. Cut it down, limb it, shorten it, flatten it and throw a piece under the other side.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Hi Dan, ive not seen this before! However it looks magic. I will definitely try this next time i can! Keep up the good work and informative videos. Stay safe 😞

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Glad this was something new for you 👍

Thanks for the video, this technique be making the rounds on social media because I've been hearing everyone talk about it. Good to see a concise instructional video of it.

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Thanks dude!

Thanks so much, this is such a Professional process, so great when in urban areas, the tree goes exactly where you want it to, i have always been close to the mark this action would make it near exact.Cheers Bob

Nice video! Tnx. You can eliminate 1 cut though; by making the first horizontal plunge cut in a slightly downward angle. This will eliminate the need for a second horizontal plunge cut and will still give you enough room for the pivoting stump.

@ClimbingArborist

9 күн бұрын

Great tip!

From an educational point of view, simply explaining "how to do" leads to distortions of understanding and a gradual modification of gestures. The one and only solution is to explain "why", like in this video. Well done!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment, very much appreciated 😃

That's a very clever way of felling a tree. The next time we have some clearing to do we'll be using that without doubt. Starting on the smaller trees obviously until we're 100% comfortable with the technique. Brilliant!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Yes, this is a fun one to practice in a safe environment with no targets around.

Loving this method!

@ClimbingArborist

9 күн бұрын

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So cool! Thank you for sharing this technique.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Very clever technique. Thanks for that.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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thanks for the info

Short, to the point, and Very Informative = Great Video!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Paladin7845

Ай бұрын

@@ClimbingArboristYes I did! And again thanks for a great presentation. I've subscribed and will be watching your other content. To many on KZread WASTE time with filler and it turns people off. I'm here to learn, not play social hour. As a Builder with decades of experience it's easy to spot a skilled professional. Keep them coming.......

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Thanks Dan another timely, informative, and helpful installment!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it !!!

Beautiful! Thank you very much for sharing!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Brilliant! 😎👍🏻

Dan, thanks for your sharing. It is a cool technique. I like it.

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Glad you like it! 😄

Its a fun trick shot, looks cool, but really serves a very very narrow purpose, a proper face cut back cut and a couple wedges and the tree will fall where you want it, but you are right this will keep the log from bouncing left or right. Good work mate

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

This technique has a specific use. Watch the video, it is explained

@integr8er66

Ай бұрын

​​@@ClimbingArboristAgreed, my comment has been edited. One of my favorite specialty cuts is the sizwheele, used to cause the tree to spin as it falls.

Really clever approach for controlling the lower trunk, thanks for the tip!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😃

Cool video Dan, thanks for showing something interesting. JIm in Oregon.

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Cheers Jim, Glad you enjoyed it.

Excelente explicacion, gracias x el video!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Loved it!❤

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Beautiful! I loved this, even though I'm an axeman! I've sometimes felled tricky trees for folks using almost exclusively the axe, which I can because I have a fair deal of experience, and know to climb trees to limb the weight with lean where I want it to. But sometimes that's not enough, and so ropes and (semi-)dubious wedging has been used to make it fall straight. One time I had a bad premonition that fortunately ended well, but the "throw of the dice" was no fun when a friend can risk considerable damage (that was meant to be avoided all together in case of a storm) But still I've been called over some sawmen, because in such settings they'll admit that they're to get stuck (or much worse), so they'll need even more accessories than what it's worth (vs risk). I'll have to share this with my fellows, because just because I can be the one that can, doesn't mean I should be the one who should. Sometimes, you need a different tool, and my fellow sawmen (and people in our local villages) will thank for sharing this vaulable safety measure. Thank you for uploading! Cheers from northern Norway

So neat!! Sharing it with a friend right now! 😊

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Very clever nice explanation

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it 👍

Great video!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

SUPERB !!!!

*Thanks!* NICE Cuts! Tree looks as if Trained. : } *Cheers!*

Absolutely Magic!! 👍

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Hello Dan, thank you. That is fancy!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Glad you like the vid 👍

Very nice!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Great video.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Just like all tricks, there's a time and a place for it, and both might be few and far between depending where you work. On flat ground or uphill felling it can definitely save a lot of earth punishment and has other benefits, but trying it on even a slight downhill fell has proven to be a waste of time for me. It really doesn't take that long and I learned a lot so I would recommend for anyone to try it anywhere it seems useful...as long as you can afford to replace whatever you end up crushing haha

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

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I got to try this.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Definitely give it a go 👍 try it first on a few trees that wouldn’t matter if it went wrong

I don't have a chainsaw or any trees but was compelled to watch. Great vid !

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Safe-r technique . Practical , structured fall . .👍🎯

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Beautiful

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Smart idea never seen it before

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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looks like a good way to get the saw stuck in the tree! i been doin this for 40 yrs or more! make ur back cut high enough , and there should be no problem with the tree trunk bucking back on ya

@ClimbingArborist

9 күн бұрын

It would leave the stump though

Very impressive.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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So well executed and explained Dan, I will definitely try this felling system, l am impressed, Stihl MS 261 is definitely the best 50cc saw on the planet, How Sweet the Sound, give the MS 400 a try out, l think you will fall in love ❤, keep up the powerful work, your content is treasure trove for all, greetings from Ireland !!!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Love the 261, not tried the 400. Cheers for the kind words bro 🤙

@spencerh2860

2 ай бұрын

550 is better than the 261 and the 560 is better than both

@zirzmokealot4600

2 ай бұрын

​@@MakeloafnotwarI bet you've never touched a ms400 or cut timber

Great video with detailed explanations.

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment 🤙

Excited to mess around with this a bit! Question for you: have you attempted it perpendicular to the primary lean of a tree to see what happens? I could imagine a number of outcomes (key+hinge breaks, keys binds and stops moving, stump splits). Purely morbid curiosity on the directional capacity of the technique for fully weighted trees.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Haven’t tried it on a side leaner. Likely would be risky

very very nice , thank you so much for this technique. amazing

Ace video. Thank you. Wish I'd known about Rhos method when I felled a 40ft leaning poplar adjacent to our garage. We succeeded, but it was nerve wracking, & & came uncomfortably close to being disastrous!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Nice work! 😃

Wow, haven’t seen old farm fence technique in a long time

@ClimbingArborist

9 күн бұрын

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Think I'd be using this more to help control the direction n the tree falls more than it rolling off the stump. Great technique either way!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Awesome information! I like that you can do this solo, no need for a rope and extra person. Only challenge would be on larger trees my 16" dewalt saw probably wouldn't work to cut the key. I'll have to try this on the ausie willows in the spring😊

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

This technique doesn’t change the need for pull line, extra person etc

@functionalvanconversion4284

Ай бұрын

@@ClimbingArborist OK, than not so useful 😁

Great video 👍 I'd watch an hour long video with just multiple fellings like this

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Challenge accepted 😃

Genius, love it! Almost seems to be the first joint of new construction.....Im wondering if there's a way to do this with Bushcraft techniques?

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Most likely is

Wow I have never seen this before, I see Why that can be very useful......k

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Interesting!!!!!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

I think so too!

Nice

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

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Cool!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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We should thank the Norwegian Vikings for inventing this technique. As we all know the vikings originated in Norway and later spread to denmark and sweden and iceland. They brought their know-how with them on their way out to distant countries. So thank you Norway!

@pgwalling6478

Ай бұрын

And on to Greenland and North America. And pretty much everywhere else.

@swedishpsychopath8795

Ай бұрын

@@pgwalling6478 Excellent correction, but not to Somalia.

@joshb6993

Ай бұрын

Really? That's crazy, those plunge cuts would have been hard work with hand tools

@igricbm9233

Ай бұрын

😂That was funny . Jokes aside now and show us how to make those cuts with hand tools in a reasonable time .

@swedishpsychopath8795

Ай бұрын

@@igricbm9233 What? You think the real Norwegian vikings that built incredible wooden ships with intricate shapes, bends and carvings and wooden stave churches couldn't bring down a tree with some easy cuts?

Well, that should control the fall ! Hadn't seen/heard of that !

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Cool! :)

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Great. Way to fall a tree on a windy day. !!!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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It's very advanced technique for me, looks more like a wood sculpting, but very interesting and performed perfectly. Thank you for sharing. As a newbie I'm still sticking to falling relatively small trees away from the house without trying to change the direction of fall using a basic technique of the face cut and the back cut.

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely most important to get the fundamentals dialled in first, before trying this stuff

Within the first minute, you explain the reason for this technique. No one is going to do this to a forest of trees for mass lumber. This is being done so you don’t crush your shed, or your grandmas tulips. It’s impressive how well people, myself included, can so crucially criticize something with no further examination than a passing glance.

I like this idea in that it keeps the tree off the ground for easier bucking

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Those are always fun to do. Haven't done one in a while

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Very satisfying, and useful when you need the tree to stay in place

I am high AF right now and I just watched this 3 times. Fascinating shit!!!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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Can you use the "Humboldt" type of face cut? Seems like in the end you are doing that anyway with those angled cuts. And, can you do this cut when topping a tree (I don't know if I said that right)? I guess the bottom of the tenon might hit you.

I got an idea!!! Let's figure out a way to make tree felling more complicated & more dangerous

@observeandreport85

Ай бұрын

I think you missed the part where this is safer and more controlled.

Tekhnik ini sangat berguna , agar batang kayu yang kita potong tidak jatuh ke samping , biasnya banyak ketika kayu roboh batang nya membanting

That’s the coolest thing ever!

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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MAsterpiece

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

😃

genius

@ClimbingArborist

23 күн бұрын

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Mantap luar biasa

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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That's great, how would that work on a 30 inch diameter tree?

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

If it is done correctly

How do you like the light bar on the 26?

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Pretty new saw so not avast of usage time so far, but the 261 is generally an awesome saw regardless of bar

cool

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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I've wondered if you're using this technique to fell a tree with a lopsided canopy or weird shaped trunk if it would be really likely to jump out of the slot and flop around regardless?

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Not sure the outcome of a tree that was heavily weight to a side that wasn’t the direction of the dell. Probably not advisable technique to use in that situation

I guess this has been mentioned already... but if you make the middle horizontal plunge cut at an angle, you probably don't need to take a small piece out.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Yes, that would work also

The US folks like this as a way to establish hunting habitats for deer. I can't see a reason to do it beyond that. Nice demonstration of the technique though!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

Why do they use it for deer habitat? How does it help exactly ?

@yonmusak

2 ай бұрын

@@ClimbingArborist Hey man - smaller deer species prefer habitats with some degree of ground cover. Ensuring that previously open landscaped ground has sufficient protection for deer to conceal themselves behind helps retain the population on your property, to encourage them to stay and breed. Dropping trees in this way help hunters to establish pathways and cover in such a way that it channels them through the tree stands and hunting areas.

@mrcryptozoic817

2 ай бұрын

@@yonmusakI saw a video a while ago where a guy was deliberately barber-chairing a line of trees to make such a path/barrier. THAT was risky.

@yonmusak

2 ай бұрын

@@mrcryptozoic817 Oh DAMN, that's nuts!

Does this technique also help with the direction the tree will fall?. Along with the pull rope and the initial cut etc.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Not really

This is great. Drill a hole drive pin and you have a gate

what about vertical lines to be more to "A" shape to help more to lock?

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Not sure it’s completely necessary, but could be worth trying

@jozefsoucik3115

Ай бұрын

@@ClimbingArborist and if you do, let me know :-)

I would like to see that done on a big oak or maple here in Southern Ontario

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Nice, line up a job and we’ll fly in ✈️

@user-yw1md7cv4n

Ай бұрын

@@ClimbingArborist that's awesome I work primarily in Toronto, I could set something up for sure. How much notice do you need?

But i like your Videos!

@ClimbingArborist

2 ай бұрын

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this may take longer but it sure is a heck lot safer someone i know was cutting some trees at a property we were flipping after reno, and one of the tree bounced when it fell and broke his leg as a result

are we cutting trees or doing carpentry?

Does it work on dead trees under 12"?

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

The tree in the video is about that and dead

💡

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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I like my logs on the ground

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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If you're experienced enough to safely and accurately make this cut, you probably don't need it. I like how you didn't mention how this technique revolves around a major chainsaw no-no; don't use the tip of the bar for cutting. This is how kickback and hospital trips happen. Do you want a chainsaw in your shoulder? Because this is how you get a chainsaw in your shoulder.

@ClimbingArborist

23 күн бұрын

A Plunge cut if done correctly is a necessary and standard technique for a good chainsaw operator . You need to plunge for various techniques such as a dogs tooth felling technique to prevent barber chair

Pretty cool. You can also carve it into a bear, for example. :)

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

Totally!

I have the greatest respect for the chainsaw skills needed to do this well. I'm not that good yet, and I don't think I have the patience anyway, so I pretty much just use pull lines, and the trees fall where I want them. Though in a way it is cheating; I'd love to be able to control everything just by the cuts I make.

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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When I see this comment section, I wonder if tree cutters are not that bright. The reason for the technique is clearly explained in a short video and still they don't understand.

@ClimbingArborist

Күн бұрын

Sadly can't disagree with your comment 🤦🏻

shouldnt the final cut be made a bit higher ? like inch or 2 its helping that the tree is not falling backwards and there is "holder" part that keeps the tree in right direction. oh> 6:35

The key must be wide enough for the type of wood and expected forces or it will just snap off.

Brit: "Plunge in on the vertical plane." American: "I saw Bigfoot once."

@ClimbingArborist

Ай бұрын

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