Learn the envelope slap-back trick in 13 minutes!!!

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Lately, I have been using the envelope slap-back trick a lot. It’s a simple technique that uses two envelopes, one regular, and one with a subtle delay. You can combine these two envelopes to create slap-back delay like sounds, but also interesting sound design tricks, and dynamic movement in drones and generative patches. Learn the trick in this short video!
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  • @MonotrailTechTalk
    @MonotrailTechTalk5 ай бұрын

    Hello! Thought I'd share this fun patch idea I have been using lately :) These videos are funded by my beautiful Patreon members: www.patreon.com/monotrail Affiliate links: Perfect Circuit - US - bit.ly/3Yn0Gll Sound of You - EU bit.ly/3DzdFYi Clockface - AS - bit.ly/3YkDJ1B

  • @michaelgarrigues7886
    @michaelgarrigues78865 ай бұрын

    I love this kind of tutorial video without product placement, thank you 🙏

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it!! There are a few companies and products I still like to support over the year, and modules I like to own I have to admit :) But I wrote about 20 concept scripts for independent videos like this one, and made it my focus for this year! Thanks for watching :)

  • @JesseHerzog89
    @JesseHerzog895 ай бұрын

    If you don’t have a delay trigger you probably have a Pam’s, can just set a second gate output at a different phase

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Nice! Thanks for sharing that, sounds like it should do the trick for sure :)

  • @jonbrouwer4300
    @jonbrouwer43005 ай бұрын

    This is a great idea! The best patches are always surprisingly simple. It really comes to life when you add the LFO or smooth random to the envelope times.

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! And agree, simple ideas like this are easy to implement, with lot's of variations. Modulating decay and running the 2nd env through a VCA are my favorite :)

  • @staticempirerecordings
    @staticempirerecordings5 ай бұрын

    Another fantastic video from Monotrail - and best 'Like and subscribe' ever! Love it.

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Haha, thank you! Glad to hear you liked it :)

  • @geoffreyarchibald2680
    @geoffreyarchibald26805 ай бұрын

    Great tip! Inspired a fun patch for me with a Rampage generated delay triggering Clouds with an octave up pitch shift. Made a cool tempo shifted sequence related to the original.

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Nice, sounds like a fun patch :)

  • @TheDavidPoole
    @TheDavidPoole4 ай бұрын

    A simple way to get a kind of "reverse slapback" is to just use an inverted ADSR on the Filter so the Attack becomes a Decay and vice versa. Alternatively set decay to 0 and the Release becomes Attack when you close the gate or release the key. You would need a longer release on the VCA envelope ol the second example to allow the Filter EG decay to play out.

  • @aeon136
    @aeon1365 ай бұрын

    KOOL Concept! GOTTA try this out w/ my ZADAR, Vermona QUAD LFO & ADDAC VCA! THANX MonoTrail! 👽

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it! Love my Zadar, it's a perfect module for this! It even has a build in mechanic to trigger multiple envelopes with a phase offset :)

  • @luinnar
    @luinnar4 ай бұрын

    It looks like perfect opportunity to use Zadar to modulate Zadar modulated by Zadar :) As always, great video! P.S. having small system forces me to thinking out of the box, and your "hacky" method was first thing in my mind

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    4 ай бұрын

    Haha, thank you! And agree, it's always a good idea to use Zadar to modulate Zadar :) All the best!

  • @Treeoftwo
    @Treeoftwo5 ай бұрын

    Mono 🎉 trail! Thanks

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Haha, thank you! :)

  • @andrewolney
    @andrewolney5 ай бұрын

    To create a delayed envelope, how about inverting the square wave and triggering with the inverted copy? Similarly use a pulse wave and do pwm on the source wave to get matching inverted pwm. This will change the delay time without changing frequency

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Excellent! I knew I forgot a good trick making this video :) If you use a bipolar LFO, indeed just inverting it gives you a great delayed trigger. If you use a unipolar clock form a sequencer, you can invert and add offset for the same effect. PWM will add to that for sure! Thanks for sharing :)

  • @hrrld
    @hrrld5 ай бұрын

    Very nice video - timely, because I've been thinking about swing recently. Also got me to think about my quadrax again, realize it's not even on the latest firmware, and gave me lots of ideas about how to set it up and self patch it to get these kinds of effects. Thanks!

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Nice, glad to hear it! Quadrax is great, enjoy patching :)

  • @OoraMusic
    @OoraMusic5 ай бұрын

    Great one mate!

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Hey, thank you mister Oora! :)

  • @damianmorillas7189
    @damianmorillas71895 ай бұрын

    Fantastic! Very well explained, as always

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @YellowJungle
    @YellowJungle5 ай бұрын

    beautiful tutorial, thanks a lot!

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    You're very welcome, glad you liked it! :)

  • @SharrowLanterns
    @SharrowLanterns5 ай бұрын

    I'm going to try this, thanks for the instruction!

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    You're welcome, enjoy!

  • @infn8loopmusic
    @infn8loopmusic5 ай бұрын

    Great video! Thanks. Subscribed to see more later! 🤘👽🛸🌞🌛

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @TheHollermann
    @TheHollermann5 ай бұрын

    So nice video! While watching, i was wondering, what you used to create the flowchart to visualize the signal chain?

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I have been working as a freelance graphic designer for a long time, so I am to deep in the Adobe trap to get out. I use Illustrator for that.

  • @charlesbronson2806
    @charlesbronson28065 ай бұрын

    Mmm, I'm going to try this to pitch cv and get some weird sounds.

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Sounds good, think you will :) I like the patch with the second envelope opening a VCA to create delayed FM pulses. But lot's of variations to explore! Cheers :)

  • @SkeletonJacket
    @SkeletonJacket5 ай бұрын

    If the filter juts have one CV cutoff filter input, how can you add two different envelopes to it?

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Most eurorack mixers can handle Control Voltages as well. Just send both envelopes to a mixer, and then send the mix to the single CV input on the filter :)

  • @SkeletonJacket

    @SkeletonJacket

    5 ай бұрын

    @@MonotrailTechTalk Thanks, I will tried that out :)

  • @Feldspar__
    @Feldspar__5 ай бұрын

    Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    I get my back into my living. I don't need to fight.

  • @alexgrunde6682
    @alexgrunde66825 ай бұрын

    Another stupidly blatant way to get trig delay on an envelope is, have an envelope module with a delay stage.

  • @MonotrailTechTalk

    @MonotrailTechTalk

    5 ай бұрын

    Very true! I mention the Erica Synth DADSR in the video, and even did a video with that module a while ago. Really fun to have acces to a delay stage right on the envelope, not just for this little trick :)

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