LEARN NEUTRAL FAST - Tekken 8 Beginner's Guide

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In this video I go over Neutral, What it is, and how to make sure your opponent has the HARDEST time gaining the advantage! I go over one match in this video and give helpful insights of what im thinking and how im approaching neutral in the game! If you enjoyed this video and found it helpful at all, consider leaving a like and subscribing!
0:00 - Intro
00:32 - pre-requisites
1:55 - analyzing the match
16:19 - Outro

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  • @TheAngryPugYT
    @TheAngryPugYT2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this guide.!! I’ve been having trouble in a neutral game so I am spamming my flowcharts before the opponent gets me 😂😂

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    Of course! im glad the video has helped you out some! if you ever have questions or need help always feel free to leave a comment! I usually respond pretty quickly and im always down to provide help and insight to anything!:)

  • @1Ksheffi
    @1Ksheffi2 ай бұрын

    A timely video, just made it to Garyu this past Monday, and the neutral game is something that I need to improve upon. Thanks.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    of course! my next video will be going over how I got out of red ranks, that might help as well!

  • @tkZombie_
    @tkZombie_2 ай бұрын

    I asked a friend what his one piece of advice for climbing is, and he said "take as little risks as possible until you need to gamble for a comeback" and i think that is a crude summary of your video here. Great video, mate.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    thanks for the comment! yeah roughly this video is just to help people understand that you dont always need to press when youre up, and how to control your advantage/take advantage back!

  • @johngreen7546

    @johngreen7546

    2 күн бұрын

    Don't do that I'd destroy you if you played like that with me

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 күн бұрын

    @@johngreen7546 thats not how that works

  • @johngreen7546

    @johngreen7546

    2 күн бұрын

    @@tkZombie_ don't do that I'd destroy you if you played like that with me

  • @johngreen7546

    @johngreen7546

    2 күн бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC sorry bro that message was for the other guy

  • @DangerDewey
    @DangerDewey2 ай бұрын

    Great video as always Averyx! im for sure going to keep this video in mind when im ready to practice neutral, thanks a ton!

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad to hear its helping:)

  • @razersedge2k974
    @razersedge2k974Ай бұрын

    Just found your channel, and it's one of the most in depth, well explained and aware tutorials i've come across. Subscribed and will be looking forward to more videos. Keep up the amazing work

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks a ton! I am glad you were able to find things that helped you out in the video! next weeks video is all about getting to purple ranks and my journey there, thanks so much for the support and I hope you continue to find value in my content!

  • @daking7861
    @daking78612 ай бұрын

    Hella good video and I like how you analyze things! Appreciate it man!

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    of course, I appreciate it a ton! good luck out there in ranked dude!

  • @ranelquinto5205
    @ranelquinto520521 күн бұрын

    Awesome content. Not just combos and best moves like other youtubers but an actual game analytics. You got a sub!

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    21 күн бұрын

    Thanks a ton! I really try to bring informative and well thought out videos that are meant to actually help improve the mentality and though process of tekken! I like to think of tekken similar to chess, having a good mentality and being able to outsmart your opponent is so important in this game!

  • @micshaz
    @micshazАй бұрын

    im going to watch this as if i'm not already high rank and an offline tournament player; and hopefully i learn something - we can all learn something from the simplest of insights! and i am not even expecting this to be simple.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    Hopefully you learned a little bit of something! I consulted with a few tournament players as well that I play with to make sure the basis of the video makes as much sense and gives the best information possible, good luck out there in ranked!

  • @micshaz

    @micshaz

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC i think the idea is really solid and it's a really good video

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    @@micshaz Thats great to hear, I love making content like this for people, I appreciate the support!

  • @fragr33f74
    @fragr33f7421 күн бұрын

    Dude, as a beginner to fighting games, this video was so helpful. Personally, I'd love to see more videos like this, especially against other popular & powerful characters. Like, what to do against King, Law, Asuka, Horang, and other popular characters. New sub earned 😊

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    20 күн бұрын

    thanks a ton for the comment! I do absolutely plan on doing more videos like these, and already have 3-4 videos planned on a similar subject! half my audience really likes these types of videos, and the other half really likes watching me play online, so I plan to continue a nice balance of both for my channel for the foreseeable future!

  • @fragr33f74

    @fragr33f74

    20 күн бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC "Perrrfect" - Halo announcer voice 😂

  • @NateDdragon
    @NateDdragonАй бұрын

    made it to garyu from beginner in 2 days by cheesing with devil stomp mixups and devil 1+4. this’ll help me a lot when dealing with lili and king. thanks!

  • @Waheeeey
    @Waheeeey27 күн бұрын

    Finally got a PC good enough to play tekken. Time to actually learn the game. Liked and subbed

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    27 күн бұрын

    thats awesome to hear, good luck on your ranked journey and always feel free to ask any questions you might have!

  • @nosurvivors100
    @nosurvivors1002 ай бұрын

    sitting at bushin with kaz currently so I went into this video with a closed mind thinking what the hell am I gonna learn from a garyu. pleasantly surprised at just how much you can learn about your neutral, how your opponent reacts to your neutral, and how you and your opponent adapt mid match. I'm gonna start going over my replays with a fine tooth comb now, thanks this is a great vid!

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    im super glad you were able to find something of use in this video!! yeah I mainly play offline right now because ive been so busy so im finally trying out ranked and wanted to give my experiences from offline and what ive learned about running the gauntlet of ranked haha, thanks for the awesome comment man, good luck in ranked!

  • @gl40ty
    @gl40tyАй бұрын

    helpful tips till the day I own tekken this will be saved in my tips and u got a sub🤞🏾

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    25 күн бұрын

    Im glad I could help, hopefully you can pick up tekken soon!

  • @Lexa1.1.2
    @Lexa1.1.22 ай бұрын

    These videos are super informative and as someone with bad internet and who can’t really play with other people these videos help, especially this one❤❤Love this new style where you’re explaining things❤Great video as always❤❤I will be watching this many times❤❤Also how’s the streaming thing👀👀

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    thanks so much for the support, im glad youre enjoying the content!! I took a backseat on making more relaxed content to make sure I could get the views up on my channel, so most likely next wednesday when my video goes live I will most likely be live the following hour after! as long as things go well and according to my plan for the video haha. Ill have a link in my desc. and ill make a mention of it in the video!

  • @Lexa1.1.2

    @Lexa1.1.2

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC hell yeah!

  • @Itsjfell
    @Itsjfell21 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @tylerjameshaymes8832
    @tylerjameshaymes88322 ай бұрын

    Like and subscribed. Great video

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    25 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much! im glad you enjoyed my content:)

  • @vargasaidan7366
    @vargasaidan73662 ай бұрын

    great video :)

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ChristopherWaddelow
    @ChristopherWaddelow2 ай бұрын

    Hey, after Kazuya's magic 4 counter hit I think ff4 is a better option. It seems to setup better oki. I don't know if you play Kazuya often but figured I'd throw it out there.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    hey! I main kazuya so I am aware of this, this was my first game on of the day and I usually substitute db4 instead while im warming up so I dont mess anything up and lose the extra damage haha

  • @WickdUser
    @WickdUserКүн бұрын

    Oh this is nice!

  • @WockMonkey
    @WockMonkeyАй бұрын

    Hey im new im trying to figure out at the most basic level what i should be aiming to do in neutral. Is it more character specific? I play raven because he looks cool and also he kinda clicked a little better for me than other characters so far. But should i just be looking to set up opportunities to whiff punish? Should i be looking to frame trap my opponent with jabs? I have never “seriously” played fighting games (tried to learn and get better and understand the strategy of how the game plays on a fundamental level) so this is all new to me anything would be helpful

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    hey, thanks for the comment! Neutral in the most basic form is when both characters are neither advantage or disadvantage in positioning specifically. your plan in neutral will depend on life lead, round count, character specifics, opponent character specifics, and opponent habits. For instance, if your opponent is bryan, and he keeps using 3+4 (his long reaching mid kick that has huge pushback and counter hit launches) your goal might be to bait out the 3+4 by focusing on advancing quickly to freak him out and get him to press, and immediately sidestep and launch his 3+4. I would say the three most important things when deciding what to do in neutral would be your character and the gameplan you would like to execute, your opponents character, and your opponents habits. Everything else is eventually important, but isnt as immediately important as those three things. TL;DR: if you know your opponent keeps throwing the same few moves over and over in neutral, base your gameplan on exploiting those moves to punish them!

  • @WockMonkey

    @WockMonkey

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC ok that actually helps a lot thanks

  • @rXunwuteamwork
    @rXunwuteamwork2 ай бұрын

    When I attempt to whiff punish a move, I often end up getting hit first at 4:29.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately its a weird thing with T8, the game is too new right now for me to say if its just something everyone has to get used to, or if its T8's extended hitboxes

  • @MoodersInit
    @MoodersInit2 ай бұрын

    Amazing

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    im glad it helped!

  • @starbutter2730
    @starbutter273025 күн бұрын

    Tyty❤❤

  • @Terrencehill19
    @Terrencehill192 ай бұрын

    How do you actually build & keep the pressure up ? I play DJ, and I often feel like I'm unable to threaten the enemy, since I only have one strong low and many of his pokes also kind of suck... So I often end up not being able to open up or seriously threatening the opponent, while just getting blendered by them

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    the simplest way to explain DVJs gameplan is to open players up with hellsweep, if you find opponents arent ducking and you have the time, throwing out hellsweep into a decent combo can net some decent damage, but also scare your opponent into ducking more. The essence of Mishima characters being so hard is because the game plan revolves around "am I going to hellsweep or not" your mids are there to check them if they duck, your electric for if they get lazy with approach or sidestepping, and your 1,1,2 to lock them down. DVJ has some decent get out of jail options for when hes getting attacked, but the problem comes from actually attacking. If your opponent just has solid ass defense everything ive said above is going to become much harder to do. As someone who plays a Mishima, the best advice I can give you is to really focus on movement, with EWGF being literally the best launcher in the game, learning how to KBD if you havent already and control space will carry you so far. The gameplan of "hellsweeping to get health lead and just not approaching and only playing whiff punishes" can actually win you so many rounds against people who like to turtle up, because at the end of the day if you have the higher health bar when that timer goes off, youre the one thats winning!

  • @Terrencehill19

    @Terrencehill19

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC thanks alot for the tips ! Yeah ok, so that proves what I feared/thought would be the case... I love DJ for his "main villain boss" vibe, but the sheer amount of buttons you have to press in such a short time to be a real threat (cd-iws2, ewgf, kbd, wp ewgf...) frustates me; others press one input and I lose 50%HP 🥲

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Terrencehill19 yeahhhh its kinda the name of the game with mishimas unfortunately, A lot of people want difficult characters, and thats kinda the role the mishimas fit haha

  • @ayosgsauce
    @ayosgsauce2 ай бұрын

    Is there a free-roam camera mode you can watch matches with? Apparently I'm the only one who doesn't know about it lol. But it's cool when people show matches in different angles.

  • @AngeloGene

    @AngeloGene

    2 ай бұрын

    I think it's in practice mode? I don't know where specifically though. And I think there's one in match replays but I might be wrong since I don't use it much.

  • @moremiso

    @moremiso

    2 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure its a mod

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    hey! the mod is "Universal unreal engine 5 Unlocker" and is how I get all of my free cam shots, the mod does cost money and is on patreon but there are free versions out there, I cant post them because I dont wanna get in trouble, but try using something called "kemono party" to get free patreon content and start there:)

  • @ayosgsauce

    @ayosgsauce

    2 ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC thanks. Just curious! Thank you for taking the time to make the video!

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ayosgsauce of course! im glad you found it helpful!

  • @AntagonisticArtichoke
    @AntagonisticArtichokeАй бұрын

    So why do people stay crouched the entire fight

  • @bartek4536
    @bartek4536Ай бұрын

    I think I played you in ranked 😀 I recognise your name 😀

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    oh nice! who do you play? I usually always use this same customization haha

  • @dwizZzie
    @dwizZzieАй бұрын

    Throw this all out the window against "Reina"😅

  • @markshmellomd1370
    @markshmellomd13702 ай бұрын

    Intermediate ranks start at blue. What is ur actual rank?

  • @razborkaptrsk9428

    @razborkaptrsk9428

    2 ай бұрын

    Intermediate starts from Mighty Ruler

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    I am an offline player that has only ever grinded really with offline tourney players and finally giving ranked a chance, so I honestly am not sure what my highest will be. People I play with are around emperor-TGS so id say probably the bottom end of that while im focusing on learning matchups im unfamiliar with!

  • @markshmellomd1370

    @markshmellomd1370

    2 ай бұрын

    @razborkaptrsk9428 nah, u can get to fujin just by flowcharting and having no real fundamentals, I did so in 30 hours with bryan, and I've never played a tekken game before. Raijin is when people actually start becoming good stepping, whiff punishing consistently, whiffing on purpose with low recovery moves to bait whiff punishes etc. Everyone else is just pressing buttons. There's a reason 20 + percent of the playerbase is in fujin. Ruler ranks are 40% +. Would u really look at a GN to MG player from csgo and call that player an intermediate player? No, but they are statistically the same as a ruler.

  • @markshmellomd1370

    @markshmellomd1370

    2 ай бұрын

    @AveryxFGC do u actually consider ruler ranks intermediate, tho? Unless ur playing reactably, u aren't really playing tekken. Ur just flowcharting until something sticks. Up until mid blue ranks players are learning how to pilot their character rather than playing the game.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    2 ай бұрын

    @@markshmellomd1370 I would say intermediate is a "slightly better than average" rank. I dont think setting "intermediate" to be middle of blue makes much sense personally. in the grand scheme of things if the majority of the player base is stuck in a certain rank, the few ranks following it are where you would be above average, thus "intermediate". I have seen quite a few good players consider tenryu to battle ruler to be the intermediate ranks. you have to keep in mind that ranks are going to be bloated with the game just coming out, and the nature of a 1v1 game youre going to find people much easier that are boosted than if you played a 5v5 like counter strike just because the lack of other opponents in the lobby. remember, intermediate doesnt specifically mean GOOD. I do agree that it is all flow charting, but in a sense flow charting is the simplest form of understanding of a game plan. so if none of the other ranks understand gameplan and are all mashing, I think its fair to say the ranks where people finally start having a gameplan for their character would be intermediate (even if the gameplan still sucks), and it would only become advanced play once players start to understand the opponents character and plan their gameplan accordingly. The game has gotten very popular very fast, so the skill ceiling has gotten a lot lower right now, it seems much easier for players like us who have a basic understanding of fundamentals, but because of the larger player pool and the huge vast variety of players with varying skill level, I think its safe to say in my opinion ruler ranks serves as an intermediate testing ground, and blue ranks serves as a test of if a player is dedicated enough to learn their character and their opponents as well!

  • @xecydez
    @xecydezАй бұрын

    Zoomed out tekken in the intro look goofy as hell

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    its even weirder when you watch them teleport around during rage arts LMAO

  • @gl40ty
    @gl40tyАй бұрын

    I have pirated tekken I want to play ranked so bad 😭

  • @luhhtee2547

    @luhhtee2547

    Ай бұрын

    Cut some grass, make $50 then get on cd keys. Then play ranked!

  • @ShittyGamePrototypes

    @ShittyGamePrototypes

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@luhhtee2547 Accidentally starting a thriving business just because you wanted to play Tekken is legendary

  • @yungmaui4876

    @yungmaui4876

    Ай бұрын

    Save up and buy the game

  • @luhhtee2547

    @luhhtee2547

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShittyGamePrototypes lmao exactly

  • @fenzelian

    @fenzelian

    Ай бұрын

    The pain of pay2lose games

  • @Itsjfell
    @Itsjfell21 күн бұрын

    😂 slight advantage is +19? 😅 jk man. Just had to be that guy sorry 🤪

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    21 күн бұрын

    youre fine haha, The idea of saying "slight" advantage is because its not a true +19 from the knockback, its more of a 50/50 hes set me up in, so I wanted to just talk about the importance of not pressing in situations like that. No worries about poking fun, I know its all in good nature:)

  • @bloodcake1337
    @bloodcake1337Ай бұрын

    no offense but giving neutral advice at garyu seems kinda far fetched, like even in fujin there are some people who dont really understand it this is my very first fighting game besides smash and im currently sitting at shinriyu after like 80 hours and I dont see myself ever giving anyone advice since I play like a complete dumbass

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    I said at the very beginning of the video that this isnt my actual rank. im an offline player that doesnt play ranked because I have practice partners that are tournament players. I only started playing ranked because of youtube, theres a lot ive learned playing with some of the best players in the united states, and what ive talked about is not only true, but things that have been passed down and taught to me by these same professional players im practicing/playing with EDIT: The topics im talking about as well is the absolute basic fundamentals of neutral that red rank players should be learning right now, if Fujins dont understand at least the first step of advancing in neutral thats a very bad sign

  • @bloodcake1337

    @bloodcake1337

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC I mean you uploaded ranked gameplay like 2 months ago, if you are truelly playing waaaay better then red ranks you couldve skipped like 3 ranks per day, im not saying your information is wrong im just saying you arent really in the position to give advice as a beginner, it just seems wrong

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    @@bloodcake1337 I am PhiDX's full time editor, including multiple other content creators, I am also a full time college student who has just been in the process of moving. I dont play ranked often at all because I dont have the time to play at all, since this video has gone live in the two days ive gotten on im right now at my promotion to mighty ruler, and I still havent played more than like 10-15ish games in that time.

  • @bloodcake1337

    @bloodcake1337

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC Aighty, I belive you lets see how far youll get by the next video :D

  • @bloodcake1337

    @bloodcake1337

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC aighty mighty, I belive you, lets see how far ull get by the next upload :D

  • @M.Shepardbee
    @M.ShepardbeeАй бұрын

    Talk louder.

  • @AveryxFGC

    @AveryxFGC

    Ай бұрын

    no

  • @ABizzareJoe

    @ABizzareJoe

    Ай бұрын

    Turn up ur volume

  • @M.Shepardbee

    @M.Shepardbee

    Ай бұрын

    @@ABizzareJoe lolol I tried! If the next step is be less poor and buy bigger speakers. Good luck, I've got no money and plan to keep it that way.

  • @M.Shepardbee

    @M.Shepardbee

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC lololol asked and answered !

  • @M.Shepardbee

    @M.Shepardbee

    Ай бұрын

    @@AveryxFGC is this holding neutral ground in real life? I think we call it "holding space" no?

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