Learn How To Rewind Lionel Armatures
This video will show you how to rewind Lionel Pullmor Motor armatures. This one is from a Reading T1 locomotive that was shorted directly from the factory. Since there is no available information on how to rewind this motor, I will use some basic tools to help in the rewinding process. I choose to do a rewind on all three segments because if one segment had a problem, the other two segments may have an underlying issue that may present itself down the road. Plus the new rewind will have new copper, new tolerances and new equal resistance measurements.
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That was an outstanding instructional video! I learned a lot, especially the measurements of the ohms, the easy math equations, the wire gauge tool to get the correct size wire, the amount of windings needed for the armature, and the soldering. Well done!
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tomz.
Superb rewire and enhancement. You just breathed new like into that locomotive 🚂..
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich.
Great video. I have wound allot of Lionel armatures many, many years ago. After watching your video I realized I was lucky that mine worked when I was done. Thanks for sharing you knowledge with us. You do nice work. I did subscribe.
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jackstoy
Original readings were a bit lower. You must have selected one wire gauge smaller than original. Your motor will be bit slower RPM but the torque will be a bit more. You wold gain torque and RPM by using bigger wire, say .026 with the same number of turns. One would need to be neat in winding to fit in space and not throw of balance due to extra winding mass. Negative would be motor may run a bit hotter. Very good presentation.
Very nice work.
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas
Going to try this myself thanks to your video, thank you!🤘
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Your welcome. It is a rewarding experience.
Thats pretty darn cool
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ken, my exact thoughts when it ran for the first time.
Outstanding!
I might need this in the future- thanks!
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Your welcome Chicago. Let me know how your rewind goes.
I didn’t understand why you were talking about total length of wire. I have rewound about fifty of these and just counted the number of turns.Yes direction has tone right. Also I have found that most of the time the commutator plate will not come off or it will break. The person that wrote that book is Bob Hannon real nice guy and he will help anybody and does sell the commutator.The book also has the right wire Hague number of turns and direction.
@TheCreativeMind
7 ай бұрын
You must have tons of patience for rewinding that many armatures up to this point. It's a rewarding experience when you see your work operate. For me I measured out the wire in full length so I can wrap the wire over the segment by hand. This action causes the wire to curl up on itself and I have to straighten it out every so often but not to often. I've seen devices that spun the armatures to wind the magnetic wire on them, thats something I like to own without stringing out the wire and doing it by hand. Bob Hannons book is really helpful but I'm not familiar with the motor types in modern locomotives even if the design was used in a postwar locomotive. That's why I used a wire gauge. Other than that, I'll have no problems working on older locomotives.
Another great video. Dumb question though. I noticed that in another video that you used a tool aside from the multimeter to test the armature. Can you provide the information on that tool? Or did I miss it in that video? Any how great work & thank you for your time!
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. The other meter I'm using is the Supco M500 megometer (megger for short). I dont mention it in this video but i did use it in other videos and talk about what it does and how to set it up. It measures the resistance of the insulation of the wire, not the wire resistance. I explain it here in my ZW rebuild video. Go to time 4:45 kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4SOsMN6g6jFnNo.html If you have any questions on it, let me know I'll answer to the best of my ability.
@stever.5092
Жыл бұрын
@@TheCreativeMind Thank you so much!
I have a Lionel 6-18003 (1501) Lackawanna 4-8-4 steamer. In seeing your engine open I was wondering if I could use that more modern smoker in mine. The lob on the front axle just broke apart and now there is no simple way to make the smoke puff. I hate to have to pull the front drive wheels off just to replace a part, that I can guess, will crack off again. I was thinking a more modern fan driven one could work and I could place a leaf switch in front of the drive rod tips in the front cylinder, to activate.
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Judging the space in mine it looks like a smoke unit can fit inside but you may have to do your own bracket. Others have done the same too with a cherry switch. The only issue is syncing the chuffed sound with the smoke output. I'm not sure what part you need but I found number 600-8404-052 smoke cam and 600-0746-033 smoke lever in my parts book if you decide to fix your engine.
You said that this armature was shorted, yet you measure all three of the sides and got the same resistance. If one coil was shorted you would get a much lower resistance read on the coil by it self. I have to assume you were testing a good motor armature for your understanding of what a good motor should be....
@TheCreativeMind
Жыл бұрын
Yes the motor was shorted but to the segment. I pushed the wire aside into its field so I wouldn't get any false readings. I believe if I left the wire where it was, I still would have gotten the same readings. I should have left the wire in place and tried that theory. If I was to get a lower resistance reading on the Commutator plate, the varnish on the magnetic wire would have to rub away on itself creating a short on its own field thus lowering its resistive rating.
Wondering if YT is listening what I’m doing. I did the very same on a N gauge motor which dates from 41 years ago and there is no replacement.
@TheCreativeMind
2 ай бұрын
I wonder that sometimes too 🤔
@TheCreativeMind
2 ай бұрын
I wonder that sometimes too 🤔
Awesome tutorial! Thank you for sharing! @Cbtrainnut