League's MOST HATED Champion. The Truth About Zed.

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Zed is historically one of the most banend champion in League Of Legends. In this video we are going to be talking about Zed and why does the league community hate him so much.
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Outro song: it's different - Shadows (feat. Miss Mary) [NCS Release]
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0:00 Intro
0:13 RIOT About Zed
3:31 Tyler1 vs Zed
4:59 Zed In Pro Leagues
5:33 Nemesis Plays Zed
7:28 Baus About Zed
8:43 Onzed About The State Of Zed
9:07 Banning Zed?
9:35 Conclusion
11:24 Outro

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  • @Fiddlezahar
    @Fiddlezahar3 ай бұрын

    Credits To All The Streamers Who Appeared In The Video: 0:13 Riot August - www.twitch.tv/augustuwu 3:31 Tyler1 - www.twitch.tv/loltyler1 5:33 Nemesis - www.twitch.tv/lol_nemesis 7:28 Baus - www.twitch.tv/thebausffs 8:43 Onzed - www.youtube.com/@onzed0604

  • @ArantyrDarkhand

    @ArantyrDarkhand

    2 ай бұрын

    I like Zed, but hes so bad... you need your ult and hit 3 stars from the 3 shadows to kill a squishy. Akali and Kayn, Ahri are frustrating to play agains, they blow you without R, they have FREE SAFE 100% secure mobility. And they press R and kill even if you are 100%.

  • @leancamo800
    @leancamo8003 ай бұрын

    "Zed us the most hated champion of all time" Yummi: "Allow me to introduce myself"

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    xd at least she is nerfed to the ground

  • @satorrotas93
    @satorrotas933 ай бұрын

    Even before I started playing Zed I never thought he was broken or hard to counter. I’d much rather play against a good Zed than a bad Fizz or Akali player who will just one shot the entire back line anyway without really trying and with less counterplay.

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    trueeee

  • @hellohooman8962

    @hellohooman8962

    2 ай бұрын

    This.

  • @RagingRevine

    @RagingRevine

    2 ай бұрын

    I find that having hate towards him before the game begins already makes you play worse against him which just further fuels the urge to ban.

  • @williamlindroos2250

    @williamlindroos2250

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah zed is easy to counteprlay, you only have to play a champ that is equally disgusting

  • @kentuckyfriedchildren5385
    @kentuckyfriedchildren53853 ай бұрын

    I never understood why people hate zed, I've never thought he was frustrating to play against, plenty of champions with less counterplay. If I lose to a zed I know it's because he's good and not because he is playing some op champ with 0 counterplay. If I get chunked by a zed combo i'm not mad at the zed taking half my health, i'm mad at myself for not spacing well and not dodging the q's. He's a very skill expressive champ and I respect that. Everyone won't shut up about zed and yone one shotting, but showing a 10/0 assassin one shotting an adc is not showcasing anything overpowered, that's how assassins should work.

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said. I think people who actually tried playing Zed are not mad about losing to Zed ^^

  • @kentuckyfriedchildren5385

    @kentuckyfriedchildren5385

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Fiddlezahar Facts

  • @zoborfuture

    @zoborfuture

    3 ай бұрын

    factos. i'd rather direct my rage against a pantheon abuser who has a point and click engage that takes off 75% of your health bar and then fucks off with full immunity or just sticks around and ends you with one push of a button because apparently it's fair to have a zero cast time execute on a 3 second cooldown.

  • @lessgoo3428

    @lessgoo3428

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@zoborfuturenah pantheon is trash if u have 100 iq minimum

  • @DK-bj9hx

    @DK-bj9hx

    3 ай бұрын

    @@lessgoo3428hes one dimensional but definitely wouldnt vall him trash with the new items

  • @fatesaria582
    @fatesaria5823 ай бұрын

    bro zed is not a villan , he was a good guy who fell in darkness to have a power for fighting against darius and his country . In terms of homeland loving , zed is on of the best ionian guy who tries to save his country .

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

  • @aathried

    @aathried

    2 ай бұрын

    He drains Ionia's magic to fight Noxus, you can say he is anti-hero but not a good guy

  • @johnakkman9993

    @johnakkman9993

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aathried agreed. He does bad things for a good cause.

  • @miltondanilo5109
    @miltondanilo51093 ай бұрын

    I remember when I just got into league (s5) I was playing Ryze midlane vs a random Zed player He ulted me and when he finished his combo I flashed, started recalling and then explode I was playing with some friends and said “wtf was that? He didn’t hit me, I just died under tower” They told me it was his ultimate I just said “damn that’s cool” and started to play him from time to time I don’t find Zed annoying , it’s the coolest champ in the game lmao Pointless story but felt like it was a good place to bring it😂

  • @DMG6124
    @DMG61243 ай бұрын

    we love zed and you tho! keep going bro

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Will do don't worry ^^

  • @tomaskuban2399
    @tomaskuban23993 ай бұрын

    Nicely said👌though still want to bring back prowlers and hydra to feel that combo for first time

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Maybe one day haha

  • @amrobahja8539
    @amrobahja85393 ай бұрын

    Really good work bro Keep going❤️

  • @nirmhoss
    @nirmhoss3 ай бұрын

    Honestly, I don't understand why so many people think of him as a villain in the lore. He simply defends his homeland, and for this he is ready to do anything. Perhaps without him there would be no Ionia.

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said

  • @fsevend6297

    @fsevend6297

    3 ай бұрын

    hes like the paul atreidis of ionia

  • @jamesgrillage8086

    @jamesgrillage8086

    3 ай бұрын

    Thats the new lore. In the old lore he was a pupil alongside shen and wanted more power so he obtained the dark powers of his shadows and his master banished him so he gained some followers of his own, went back and killed him

  • @Desiderium
    @Desiderium3 ай бұрын

    This is a well-made video and does a great job covering Zed's history. Hopefully Riot changes their stance on Zed because I think it's stupid to purposefully balance a champion beneath what they should be just because of player sentiment.

  • @CharlieLive
    @CharlieLive3 ай бұрын

    Really nice video to watch. Can say that im a brand new Zed player and im already loving him

  • @TheChosenOne1881
    @TheChosenOne18813 ай бұрын

    Filip bro! Just wanted to let you know that you'll always be remembered. You're highly underrated, but keep up the great work! Bless you! ❤🔥

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

  • @nimo6199
    @nimo61993 ай бұрын

    there was a time where i permabanned zed because i didnt understand his kit and how to play against it. Now i'm never banning zed again (often because i want to play him) because i know very good how he works.

  • @norve5436
    @norve54363 ай бұрын

    for me i just switched from Yasuo to Zed and i’m really liking it as a mid and jgl got my 106k points and the mastery 7 already i’ve been playing league for 4 months and i’m really liking that zed thing tbh i’m silver now and i hope i can climb more with the SHADOWS MASTER

  • @sevaneken3461

    @sevaneken3461

    3 ай бұрын

    Hopefully you climb bcs il silver he's like always banned but diamond and more players are not even afraid of zed. Bcs they all know he's vulnerable to cc and and likes isolated targets

  • @M4Tr1xg0at
    @M4Tr1xg0at3 ай бұрын

    Nice video, even better explanation, keep it up :D

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, glad you enjoyed watching :)

  • @remnant2484
    @remnant24843 ай бұрын

    im challenger eune irelia main and i think same could be said about my champion, people really start to blame the champ when a player is too good on it..

  • @redpanpan7979
    @redpanpan79793 ай бұрын

    Ahri mage meta is the MOST frustrating out of any mage.

  • @diegomonterrosomuriel765
    @diegomonterrosomuriel7653 ай бұрын

    I really like to play Zed, I only play with it and your videos helped me a lot 😁

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that man! Keep going ^^

  • @austinmyers1568
    @austinmyers15683 ай бұрын

    Do you still do coaching sessions?

  • @InfamousZed
    @InfamousZed3 ай бұрын

    I’ve always wondered why I never get to play zed and this video def helped

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    haha well now you know ^^

  • @einjharrelraca
    @einjharrelraca2 ай бұрын

    the issue with zed is that he ALONE determines your lane. against an acceptable zed player, not a good zed player, an acceptable zed player the best you can possibly do is go even, because thanks to his 925 range q (275 longer than caitlyn auto range) with a very low cooldown you can never zone him off of cs completely, and once he has a dirk he can instant clear back minions with his shadow mimic, so you just never have an opportunity to punish him unless he fucks up.

  • @karmel5835
    @karmel58353 ай бұрын

    for me frustrating are champions with million cc, they can be miles behind and stunn to eternity the carry and win the game ( lissandra)

  • @ryuzakiistream
    @ryuzakiistream2 ай бұрын

    As a high elo morde otp nothing's worse than perma teleportation so I can't throw a single Q

  • @jususi71
    @jususi713 ай бұрын

    The only time I hated playing against zed was when the ravenous hydra caster build was a thing, running in to a good zed player who went cdr+hydra build was 1 of the most unfun things to face in the entire game, atleast every other iteration of zed HAS to snowball and go in to kill someone because u cant just stand 800 units away and perma poke. Hydra zed was basically a mobile somewhat tanky ad xerath(with fizz e) with sustain, plus actual kill pressure, thank god that is gone

  • @sahsax3
    @sahsax33 ай бұрын

    When I was a newbee I was frustrated after a few games vs zed, so I just started to main him.

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Wise man.

  • @sevaneken3461

    @sevaneken3461

    3 ай бұрын

    If you can't beat'em join'em

  • @taorroarcano7626
    @taorroarcano76262 ай бұрын

    That's how the game works, zed and assassins in general counter squishy and immobile chempion. You can play malphite rammus mord ... a lot of those scaling tank counter zed

  • @Arctic_1605
    @Arctic_16053 ай бұрын

    i feel like the zed perma ban has died a lot by now, instead ppl perma ban smolder (which is like 45% winrate atm)

  • @blazguzelj7880
    @blazguzelj78803 ай бұрын

    all the noobs hate zed

  • @daltobog6640

    @daltobog6640

    3 ай бұрын

    this is real true

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    the truth has been spoken

  • @Was_los_Bruda

    @Was_los_Bruda

    3 ай бұрын

    😂real

  • @whiteshadow9000

    @whiteshadow9000

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't understand bro, is Zed strong or weak right now?

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    He is balanced right now, not too weak not too strong imo@@whiteshadow9000

  • @jadoniccryon5898
    @jadoniccryon58983 ай бұрын

    Today I played Sion in ARAM and I went up against a really goood Zed player. It wasn't fun at all , my team got engaged on and the Zed made my entire team vanish by dashing around me and since I'm slow I couldn't do anything . The feeling of helplessness is what makes Zed really annoying .

  • @filipirimiesINFJ
    @filipirimiesINFJ3 ай бұрын

    I will always love this champ no matter what. And I am thankful I have a passionate youtuber to follow up in this journey. Zed or Bed 4 ever

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for being here always Filip :)

  • @HorrorVibe8694
    @HorrorVibe86943 ай бұрын

    "I'm from Diamond 3 to Emerald 3 because I keep playing this champ... I just don't care about winning or losing anymore; it's just fun and satisfying to outplay enemies and hit 3 Q's

  • @busherinolol1693
    @busherinolol16933 ай бұрын

    Personally, I think the problem with Zed is his lethal range. He doesn't rely for positioning of his W to kill a squishy carry which is why people never feel save against him. I feel like alot of the frustration would be gone if his W range was shorter. Maybe remove the snap back delay on his R as a trade off.

  • @Ashura_Morgraine
    @Ashura_Morgraine3 ай бұрын

    You described me, when I play mid I will ban zed no matter what I play, I just dislike going against him so much that I just decided I never want to see him in my lane. I will try to deal with even hard counterpicks against my champ, but not to deal with zed.

  • @tiagolopes4687
    @tiagolopes46873 ай бұрын

    I played a lot of diff classes mid and what i can say in my experience when i was mainly an assassin player i didnt particular enjoy playing aganist or either hated, was like some average in terms of anoying. The times i was playing mages was the time i found him most anoying id particulary know why.. now that i play mostly bruiser champs is fine playing vs zed

  • @sibartan2835
    @sibartan28353 ай бұрын

    Tbh I really love Zed for chalenge and the amount of dophamine. On Zed 80% of kills feels like u earned it (atleast against skillcup matchups)

  • @arisufizu5698
    @arisufizu56983 ай бұрын

    I think the ONLY time that I thought Zed was OP or sleeper op was when Ravenous was changed to also proc on abilities because he just shoves the wave and does whatever he wants on the map and there's nothing his enemy can do regardless if he was winning the matchup or not. It's such a brainless strategy. But before and after the ravenous Zed build meta, I thought he was the most skill expressive assassin out there and never had problems facing against him Oh it was mentioned in the video, nice

  • @milad9482
    @milad94822 ай бұрын

    I personally play veigar mid and when zed uses w off cd and does not get ganked ... Then i just have to ban him

  • @miwacoaching
    @miwacoaching3 ай бұрын

    Saying "people ban it because they don't like to admit they got outplayed" is a very offputting way to end it. A big reason why the champ gets banned is how uninteractive it is for many champs (Xerath, Kass, Tf, ...). It's generally not enjoyable to play either side of an uninteractive lane (which is how most people will approach playing Xerath vs Zed and similarly Zed vs Malphite or something). Also the concept of "getting outplayed" is generally very subjective, you can say you outplayed a Twisted fate because you dodged his gold card with your ult but that is VERY Zed favored and in the case of having a good reaction time or scripting you win it 10/10 times with nothing the Tf can do (of course there is the question of why he put himself in that position in the first place but it's just to serve as an example). Zed has many cases where the situation is heavily skewed towards either the opponent or himself. Beside that there are also many cases where he forces a zero interaction situation. Sidelaning as Zed vs Fiora means both will never have any kill potential without committing anything. On top of that the champ getting ahead means that R E + Autos will kill you on most squishy champs. This is further exacerbated by the existence of Voltaic cyclosword which both adds point and click damage AND makes his Q undodgable. Another reason is that the champ also requires you to punish it within it's cooldown windows, trades, ... among other things. The person otping that champ will have much more practice in most matchups than the people queueing into the niche scenario. That makes it one of the more otp favored champs where champion and matchup mastery tends to matter more than game mastery often times. (So you can say the Zed player is worse than you but you are losing, similarly to how Nidalee/Draven/... players can cheat the game) This only showcases a few examples outside of "ohh people don't want to get outplayed by my champ we are so good" which makes the whole thing come off as otp cope while it was otherwise reasonable enough.

  • @forcencd6085
    @forcencd60853 ай бұрын

    Personally i think the reason is frustrating is because he is flashy. Its the same with champs like yone yasuo irelia and so on. Its different when u get killed by a khazix than froma zed. His whole playstyle surrounds that concept of flashy play.

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    I personally hate kha'zix because he can be invisible, that's annoying haha :x

  • @traficantededolly9922

    @traficantededolly9922

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, if talon try to one shot some one in the middle of the enemy team, he can do it, but he will certainly die, but zed will do the same thing kill someone, and press W or R, and go back to a safe position

  • @forcencd6085

    @forcencd6085

    3 ай бұрын

    @@traficantededolly9922 i mean yes zed is a safe assasin i agree. But the problem with your comment is that you think zed will kill someone in a team fight. Zed is best when the enemies come one by one. A simple armor item or even zhonyas neutralised his while kit. Same doesnt apply to a talon since he can w q you in a blink of an eye without giving you any chance to retaliate. Zed at least has to hit qs and give you 3-4 seconds of time( which in leage is way too much) to 1 zhonyas 2 your support save u 3 dodge his abilities 4 potition better. Literally no other assasin give you this advantage since almost all of them have invis or a point click one shot ability

  • @Akito-zb4np
    @Akito-zb4np3 ай бұрын

    They don't like it when I W far way back, flash in the middle of 4 people, ult their adc and proc voltaic, go back to my W shadow, E, then pray my follow-up Qs hit.They hate it so much.

  • @mattg1532
    @mattg15323 ай бұрын

    Im a kat main since a lot of years and i feel like the same happen to kat

  • @Alduin57
    @Alduin573 ай бұрын

    I mean you sorta missed what most people have been saying which was he can farm way too safely and he can dash too often.

  • @sevaneken3461
    @sevaneken34613 ай бұрын

    I don't hâte zed because i'm an assassin main too. I instead hâte shen he would just guess who i'm trying to kill and teleport he's kind of annoying when well played

  • @sasailicc
    @sasailicc3 ай бұрын

    Zed main here. I think you love zed so you can be real when this kind of question comes out. Zed is frustrating as hell, its not about "you dont know to play against him" its about that his kit is just absurd. Zed with eclipse only, can beat kha zix with 3 items you can witness to that on stylish streams for example. I am not talking about fact that u must hit whole combo, i am talking about fact that that possibility shoould not be alowed to happen. Zed is also the safest assasin in whole game, try to play fizz or talon in mage matchups and you will suffer more. I agrre that he has shit early game, but not big deal cuz he became mage in late game and u cant argue about that, he is just super strong able to 1v1 even tank, split push, wave clear. He fall behind when he is not fed but who doesnt, he anyway need 1 roam to get back in game. So i cant agree that zed is not frustrating, he is much harder to deal with than others, objectivily harder.

  • @sasailicc

    @sasailicc

    3 ай бұрын

    P.s. i am not talking that he is most broken character in lol, he obviosly isnt. But i just think that people want to make him more weaker than he actualy is. Nice video tho, love your content i wasnt thinking nothing bad, just my opinion :-)

  • @HienNguyen-cs1md

    @HienNguyen-cs1md

    3 ай бұрын

    @@sasailicc He's definitely not weak but not like OP either. Yone for example has crazy damage even when behind. As an assassin, he has his upsides and downsides when compared to like Talon.

  • @sasailicc

    @sasailicc

    3 ай бұрын

    @@HienNguyen-cs1md ye, yone is different story. That shit can miss everything and win trades.

  • @4Atomsk
    @4Atomsk2 ай бұрын

    Someone needs to make a guide on how to play against zed

  • @ademboss5001
    @ademboss50013 ай бұрын

    hey what is the best champ to ban while playing zed?

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Just ban the champion that you struggle against the most in mid lane, even if other people say that Zed is good against him.

  • @shade_7500

    @shade_7500

    3 ай бұрын

    If you re below master ban diana , fizz or irelia

  • @kommuist_slayer

    @kommuist_slayer

    3 ай бұрын

    @@shade_7500 and LeBlan

  • @twilight5726

    @twilight5726

    3 ай бұрын

    i always ban xerath because he outranges you so much and he outscales you too so i'll ban him

  • @VOID-bf1xs
    @VOID-bf1xs3 ай бұрын

    i perma bann zed not cuz i can't deal with him but cuz his roams are 90% of the times flawless ! i deal with him properly yet he still feeds on the adc or jungler or he can dive a 30% life top any day of the week and type "ez" then comeback lane with item advantage ! he might be a hard champ to play but his basic full combo can easily destroy any adc on fights that don't last more than 4~6 seconds so even walking up to your team mate with a zelean or a kayle is extremely hard as u don't get enough time plus his extremely fast target access and stickiness ! most of the smurf zeds i face give up their turrets for roams and it's a winning deal for them they can get 3/1/1 in one single roam , his strategy is no shit that can be easily countered in solo Q ! he is a full utility champ with extremely high survivability

  • @anthonynguyen1563
    @anthonynguyen15633 ай бұрын

    This video was so funny!

  • @maximillianfakrogha9248
    @maximillianfakrogha92483 ай бұрын

    When I get outplayed by Qiyana. I just type well played. I rather get outplayed than just get one shoot without being able to do anything. Which is why I never banned zed

  • @chaseyup3
    @chaseyup33 ай бұрын

    I think one of the biggest reasons zed is very unfun to play against is that it feels like the game is really in his hand, and if he plays well he wins and if he makes mistakes you sometimes get to punish. Just getting slowly poked down with weq feels like it matters more how the zed plays instead of how you play against him

  • @bryanlariestan6662
    @bryanlariestan66623 ай бұрын

    A video talking about zed without the faker outplay... impossible

  • @gaston.cr0w
    @gaston.cr0w2 ай бұрын

    In fact, im new play Zed and everyone predict my plays. The champ can be an Assasin with more range than others, but if you don't be fast or has good accuraty... All people will stomp you

  • @brunodeusdara8926
    @brunodeusdara89263 ай бұрын

    we all know that zed is like a villain in-game, but lorewise I feel like he is a misunderstood good character, like Jason Todd or something like that

  • @keiththao7534
    @keiththao75342 ай бұрын

    You gotta land your q's. Thats the beauty of zed. They nerfed him so bad to the point where its not even rewarding enough when you perfectly calculate your abilities. He's not broke. Theres just too many noobs.

  • @alext8060
    @alext80602 ай бұрын

    Zed is 100% a balanced champ, I've been playing him a lot recently actually but I still think hes "objectively" one of the most annoying champions in the game. I think a lot of it is just that he is VERY uninteractive if he wants to be and that unlike other assassins hes scales REALLY well. I think one of the main issues I have is something more fundamental for OTP champs in general, unless youre a GM/Chall player, theyre going to be so many droves better at the lane than you are and a skill match up turns into a really one sided experience, a Zed OTP will always be better at the Ahri lane than an Ahri player is at the Zed lane (this stops applying in really high mmr like gm/chall ofc but thats .005% of players lol). The other big annoyance with Zed is that he doesnt really have an impossible lane because his kit is so flexible, I remember Nemesis saying on stream one time that Zed lanes are entirely based on his numbers and not really about kit interaction - Zed has had moments where he could easily beat traditional counters like Vlad. Most other champs have these "impossible" lanes. You really struggle vs Vex? play syndra, You really struggle vs Syndra? play fizz (this lane is hard losing for syndra until literally challenger and it flips completely and its really syndra favored), struggle vs fizz? play panth and so on and so on. Zed doesnt really have this and it can make it incredibly frustrating to see oh sylas has 53.5% wr into zed D2+ this patch and then you just get fisted because zed has the tools to win. This certainly makes him a High skill, flexible, and interesting champion, but that doesnt stop him from being incredibly annoying - Look at the top lane, the 4 infamous horsewomen of top lane, Fiora, Camille, RIven, Irelia and now also Vayne ig, those 5 are like the hardest top laners in the game, but theyre also some of the most hated top laners in the game. My last issue with zed is that his kit is just kinda inherently annoying. His W is basically better flash and that just feels like shit to play vs, in lane he functions as a manaless ad mage he does w q and it outranges fucking velkoz and xerath, his ult gives him untargetability and makes dives incredibly consistent, easy and it gives him another blink, even if you survive the initial combo you might just stand under tower and die to air when the mark expires. His Ult CD is so insanely low + he builds so much AH its feels the exact same as the malig + ult hunter ahri bullshit thats meta rn. He fucking goes first strike a lot and that keystone is disgusting on him bc hes great at proccing it at great range + hes melee so he gets 100% gold and hes so strong with gold that any gold acceleration with free boots and futures is kinda oppressive . Zed also has the ability to go kinda bruisery with Shojin being really strong on him and cleaver can be viable as well and theres nothing worse in this game imo than an assassin walking around with like fucking 3.5k hp one shotting you and his hp bar doesnt move. I know that hes balanced and fair whatever, he has significant counterplay etc but I can destroy a Zed in lane and I still come out the other end thinking "That was a terrible fucking experience." I dont think he should be reworked or anything, he is one of the iconic champs in the game and his playerbase is dedicated and wide enough to keep in the game (looking at you old asol and aatrox). However, I still wish there was a way to make him less annoying, IDK what it is and he would prob need compensation buffs, idk top of my head making shit up maybe hurt his w e q trade pattern to do less poke but if he hits 3 shurikens with one cast it will also proc his passive or something. (99% likely a terrible idea im just throwing shit out there someone more knowledgeable about the champ could make better suggestions) All of this frustration only acts to hurt Zed players more than his opponents as well though, has to suck to play a champ thats forced to be terrible because if he isnt terrible then oh whats this 70% ban rate and you dont get to play him anyway. He is strong this season though and it seems that without avenous the champ seems to be a lot less hated. (seriously why did they ever allow him to build that item)

  • @saturdaymorning1516
    @saturdaymorning15163 ай бұрын

    I do agree!

  • @shockk_lol
    @shockk_lol3 ай бұрын

    Great video man, i kinda understand why people hate zed but at the same time they are just mad because they do too many mistakes that they can't see and they think "the enemy champ is broken you know. Last season was like a bad exemple because zed have 0 cd and you can do whatever you want but he is just a good assassin who is good at exploring enemy mistakes, thats all he does, he waits for your mistakes and he punishes you. In nemesis clip its like "zed broken" but "syndra isn't" when they did the same but at diferent times on the game, she killed him with only 1 skill in 1 second and he killed her in 6 seconds with all is kit plus flash. I know she is a scale champing and blablabla, but thats it, she needs to scale she have low hp early game and Zed had already 1 item+brutalizer he will do damage, he is an assassin he needs to damage in a 1v1 thats what make sense no? talon/fizz/renekon/ahri/garen/riven/orianna/lux all of them would one shot syndra there probably faster, thats it. Like he have one of the worst early lvl's in the game and syndra can poke him to death with Q's in the first levels, and thats kinda boring, it's never the best syndra againts the best zed when people talk about champins, they talk when its a good zed againts a syndra probably first timing or something like that, the player skill is really important and thats why zed was so bs last season, hydra/bc/seryndas have made OTP = First timers with zed, almost that because you have no CD, and thats why champions like akali, akshan, ori are so good againts Zed, they are really good making presure early game when zed can't punish you. When you are playing Zed its like playing againts Fiora, or even blitzcrank, you need to think what you are doing so you will be punished, they make league a fighting game almost. Like blitz, blitz doenst need to be op to be permabanned because if you land a hook you are a god, so you need to dodge that hook so you can't play autopiolet, thats what they do, they dont need to be op, the enemy need to play correctly, and thats why zed and blitz are not on proplayer, in the paper they have alot of weaknesses and are really hard to do the basic stuff compared to other champs. If the enemy player is good your options are so low that you almost cant play the game, people need to understand that and zed will be banned like 5% of the time max not 20% like he is. People just dont want to learn how to play againts and will cry about "the top pick is to op, but im wasting my ban on zed". Like me i can't play againts fizz so im banning him, but i know thats better champions to ban, but im not crying about that, thats my bad not fizz is ultra broken

  • @shockk_lol

    @shockk_lol

    3 ай бұрын

    Sorry i wrote a bible there KEK

  • @shockk_lol

    @shockk_lol

    3 ай бұрын

    And btw im not saying that Zed is op or something like that, he is just not that good in the meta. I'm saying all the time "last season zed was probably the best champ in the game"

  • @Tiagocf2

    @Tiagocf2

    3 ай бұрын

    tbh Syndra didn't even no shotted him, if you pay attention to the death recap you'll see the amount of AD/True damage he took

  • @dumpsterplayer2700
    @dumpsterplayer27002 ай бұрын

    I'm a veigar main, I ban zed every game, I am absolutely useless vs zed as veigar. I cant punish him pre lvl 3/6, I don't even get push against Zed. At level 6, my cage takes 0.5 seconds to form, Zed's ult is 0.6 seconds-0.95 seconds. I have 0.1-0.35 seconds to correctly place my cage such that the edge will be where zed will appear behind me. Moving the cursor to the correct position alone from a surprise ult is more than that. Even if i manage to correctly place my cage, he can EQ and shadow away before my cage will stun. The only thing i can do is WQR behind me and hope its enough, which unless he was 60-70% HP he will not be, because i also cant pressure him while he has ult to hit the spells. Zed is not broken, but my champ is absolutely useless against him so i will continue to ban. Also something that was brought up, i'm around emerald, i'm not afraid of emerald zeds, i'm afraid of emerald zed smurfs.

  • @konkara4714
    @konkara47143 ай бұрын

    i have been playing league for 8 years and been a zed main for 5 but thisd season i have finally quit league because zed was the only reason i played league and hes so unplayed rn and it actually makes the game so unfun

  • @Fancy_Boy
    @Fancy_Boy3 ай бұрын

    I become a zed player after seen Faker vs Ryu... and the truth is, ppl dont like to have the "ryu experience" lol... but if the "torture" is the problem, why shaco exist... have u ever watch "pinkward" humiliate any toplaner???? thats torture!!! not being able to reach the enemy bc of constant fear of those boxes....

  • @crashbandicootnerd4321
    @crashbandicootnerd43213 ай бұрын

    Sorry Fiddle, but with all the old and new cancer champs in the game (COUGH COUGH ZOE, COUGH COUGH AKALI AND FUCKING SMOLDER), I'd say Zed isn't as hated as he used to be.

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Still his win-rate is kinda high like it always was haha

  • @imalytoshavpopekartoshka7911
    @imalytoshavpopekartoshka79113 ай бұрын

    Also, would you do jungle zed guide?

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    I think that might be my next video actually haha

  • @imalytoshavpopekartoshka7911

    @imalytoshavpopekartoshka7911

    3 ай бұрын

    Half money for the idea XD)

  • @imalytoshavpopekartoshka7911

    @imalytoshavpopekartoshka7911

    3 ай бұрын

    Jk ofc

  • @parsarafieimanesh5233
    @parsarafieimanesh52332 ай бұрын

    what do you think about zed jungle ?

  • @aspeedtellybridger9707

    @aspeedtellybridger9707

    2 ай бұрын

    Good pick. I use it sometimes and its really good for clear after lvl 3. Passive is op too especially for drakes etc.

  • @dannytr556
    @dannytr5563 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @deceased._
    @deceased._3 ай бұрын

    People think Zed takes 0 skill but then theres champs with truedamage on a single point and click skill.

  • @mostlydangerous3717

    @mostlydangerous3717

    3 ай бұрын

    Ahem garen. I get more mad whenever he presses the funny button than any skill expressive champ has

  • @deceased._

    @deceased._

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mostlydangerous3717 lmfaoo, camille aswell

  • @anamariaaguilera5796
    @anamariaaguilera5796Ай бұрын

    My main ♥️ I wouldn’t trade Zed for any other champion.

  • @wenndeldourado8886
    @wenndeldourado88863 ай бұрын

    e muito frustante jogar de zed atualmente eu dou meu maximo e n funciona, ai eu desligou meu cérebro e vou jogar top illaoi e ganho sem nem saber oq estou fazendo xD

  • @Tiagocf2

    @Tiagocf2

    3 ай бұрын

    dai tu cai contra um teemo e leva stomp de illaoi

  • @wenndeldourado8886

    @wenndeldourado8886

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Tiagocf2 pior q nunca cai contra acredita?

  • @Tiagocf2

    @Tiagocf2

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wenndeldourado8886 é péssimo kkk ela leva mto counter pra boneco ranged

  • @wenndeldourado8886

    @wenndeldourado8886

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Tiagocf2 cara eu jogo lol a menos de 1 ano e sou prata tu acha q alguém no meu elo vai saber counterar alguma coisa? os cara nivel 300+ tomando amasso pra mim nivel 80 (eu acho)

  • @raidcr7404
    @raidcr74043 ай бұрын

    I mean tyler1 played lethality sion and was 1/6 against a fed zed with old claw. Back then Zed did more damage than after durability patch. In my opinion this is how Zed should be. Hes literally the best champ to style on people and thats way better than just oneshotting people like Talon. Its like saying karthus ult should be instant too.

  • @alexandarthedivine
    @alexandarthedivine2 ай бұрын

    As someone who peaked Master last season, I still hate Zed.

  • @nothingwhatsoevertwotone
    @nothingwhatsoevertwotone3 ай бұрын

    Im being tortured in morde ult no way to get out. Thats so bs to say that for zed 3:20

  • @Deathslinger666
    @Deathslinger6662 ай бұрын

    Did you just say ahrii is less frustrating to play against? She literally has a toe track hitbox on her Q and E and one million dashes with her R so even if you are going I kill her and in the lane she is still going to escape and not die.

  • @AP_ZED_2
    @AP_ZED_23 ай бұрын

    The reason why they want Zed weak is because is simple Zed has a really high solokill potential in lane and there is no midlaner that we can say "This is Zeds counter" matchups like ekko Yasuo might seem like it but both these champs require high skill. Yasuo might beat Zed if he is good in the game. Other than that only champs that we can say Zed counters are toplaners and some sup and jungs. Doing a mistake against Zed is irreversible. Even tho low winrate Riot cant Buff Zed because when this happens Zed starts reigning terror in every elo, killing characters like malph or jax ext. which is the only counters of Zed. Edit: forgot to say this is my opinion.

  • @jamesgrillage8086
    @jamesgrillage80863 ай бұрын

    Its so frustrating that low elo people think hes op and permaban him. Im not allowed to have fun because of a false belief

  • @Tiagocf2
    @Tiagocf23 ай бұрын

    I really dislike ZED and think he is bad designed for a number of reasons, and all your arguments can be refuted by what the Rioters said, Zed is not that strong because he's toxic and must be kept weak, and that's a design issue. To begin with, Zed has 2 INSTANT teleports, a point and click nuke and invulnerability, also he uses no mana and has in-built energy regen so having energy isnt even a issue if you play good enough. He is fun exactly because he has that many tools, it's pretty much why champions like Lee Sin, Yasuo, Irelia are fun, because you never run out of options and have a lot of tools at your disposal. "Oh but he has strong counters like CC" - Bro that's not even a specific counter, CC counters anyone, also good luck landing a CC in a champion that has 2 instant teleports and imunity frames. His only hard counter is stasis and that's gatekept behind Zhonyas. You can easily dodge his shurikens, but what if there was 3 shurikens comming from different angles? not so easy now... i would say that you cant dodge that, it's more a matter of if zed will manage to hit you. You have no control and no say when playing against him That's why people hate him, he's too erratic and all around, you cant counter the teleports without straight up guessing where he'll be, meanwhile he can very easily outplay you with the amount of tools he has. You can't even count on hitting him when he leaves Ult because he can instantly teleport to his shadow if he setup it beforehand. He's too safe. Now let's compare him to a champion I know have strong and defined weaknesses: ILLAOI She does a lot of damage, but all her abilities are well telegraphed and you can react to everything if you're fast enough, you can destroy her passive tentacles and outspace her pretty easily because she is slow. As for Zed, the only counter is CCing or killing him before he goes back to his shadow and pray to not be one shotted by his ulti (or buy zhonyas) Riot should 100% rework him. Personally I hate manaless champions because of infinite sustain and mindless ability spam, so I would give him mana. Also make his teleports have a slight windup like 0.2s so you can properly react to it. Them you can properly introduce him into the game without it being so toxic and give him some compensation accordingly

  • @sasailicc

    @sasailicc

    3 ай бұрын

    That is what i am talking about when i say that he is too much safe and other assasins just struggle way to much to lane vs mages comparing to zed. I am zed main and i admit that, i dont know why is so hard for others to admit that his kit is absurd

  • @DK-bj9hx
    @DK-bj9hx3 ай бұрын

    If zed is the most frustrating imagine fizz with zonyas😂 at leasts zeds dont build zonyas to cycle their w

  • @imalytoshavpopekartoshka7911
    @imalytoshavpopekartoshka79113 ай бұрын

    Tyler1 or T1 who do you prefer more?)

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Why not both?

  • @lucasferreira2073
    @lucasferreira20732 ай бұрын

    "His kit is annoying" Me as a Vlad main:

  • @Lot_01
    @Lot_013 ай бұрын

    is zed buffed ? we are in 14.6 when did he get buffed ?

  • @mimaaamimmooo7725

    @mimaaamimmooo7725

    3 ай бұрын

    was buffed at the start of the season

  • @Lot_01

    @Lot_01

    3 ай бұрын

    @@mimaaamimmooo7725 So he's buffed rn ?

  • @mimaaamimmooo7725

    @mimaaamimmooo7725

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Lot_01 i guess, check 14.1 patch notes

  • @svSGRDGRG1234
    @svSGRDGRG12343 ай бұрын

    3:54 ZED 8/2 vs lethality Sion 1/6 and Tyler1 think it isn't normal that he dies ?😂😂😂

  • @dimitrijacobs7123
    @dimitrijacobs71233 ай бұрын

    Bro we just love to swap around and look cool getting away

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @ibraheemnabas4237
    @ibraheemnabas42373 ай бұрын

    What your current rank

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Master

  • @hellohooman8962
    @hellohooman89622 ай бұрын

    I'm probably blinded by the ouplay by Faker 8 years back then, but I didn't even know people were hating on Zed.

  • @alejandrojimenez1685
    @alejandrojimenez16853 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I've been trying to learn Zed for the last couple of weaks, and my impression is that he is nerfed as fuck. He is super squishy with really bad stats next to other assasins, he has a weak laning phase, his skills are pretty bad with low dmg and and long CDs at the first levels, and it takes a lot of knowledge about the game to make him work... No wonder why nobody plays him anymore xD

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah but can you imagine that so many people think that Zed is still broken and ban him every game? 🙃

  • @alejandrojimenez1685

    @alejandrojimenez1685

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Fiddlezahar yup, I have heard it before. I myself have banned him with certain champs that are really weak in early game like Azir because I have had bad experiences against Zed before. I think the problem is, that Zed has so much roon for skill expression yet nobody plays him, that when you find one, he is usually an OTP that oblitarates you so hard, it feels unfair, and hence people start to hate him.

  • @BL9_11
    @BL9_113 ай бұрын

    "Teemo" I'll leave this here.

  • @ZrankHedn
    @ZrankHedn3 ай бұрын

    I only hated zed when i was new to the game playing annie, now after playing kayle and Vladimir i hope i get zed over let's say asol or akali.

  • @wdahwdah3402
    @wdahwdah34023 ай бұрын

    10:50 and one shot you with multiple ways😈😊

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    xd

  • @Zaibatsu___
    @Zaibatsu___3 ай бұрын

    *Zed just fulfills his role of murder Players: Omg Zed is so broken 😮

  • @yuji8592
    @yuji85923 ай бұрын

    Not gonna lie it's very noob oriented the current balance of Zed, and it's unfair that you can climb a lot easier with basically almost every other midlaner, but i think League has a lot more important problems to attend to at this moment...

  • @shade_7500
    @shade_75003 ай бұрын

    I hate Zed because he Is so sexy that the community keeps him weak because they cant handle the effort to open shop and spend 500 for an armor

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    LMAO

  • @th0r530
    @th0r5303 ай бұрын

    will you try tank zed 🤔

  • @Fiddlezahar

    @Fiddlezahar

    3 ай бұрын

    You cooking bro

  • @wlan1997
    @wlan19978 күн бұрын

    Zed is really Strong if u know what u are doing I like to play him even im not that good yet

  • @try_hard586
    @try_hard5863 ай бұрын

    We dont play league we play zed

  • @Tostuu

    @Tostuu

    3 ай бұрын

    Fr

  • @poli3676
    @poli36762 ай бұрын

    So true

  • @franmybautista5159
    @franmybautista51593 ай бұрын

    3:41 1/6, 118 farm sion complaining about zed huh, nice.

  • @franmybautista5159

    @franmybautista5159

    3 ай бұрын

    And hes also going lethality form some reason oooook

  • @milosalbijanic3547
    @milosalbijanic35473 ай бұрын

    Well if i play against Zed i pick Yone, farm untill one item and then win anyway. Now Yone is example of Op champion.

  • @walidelmrabet7174
    @walidelmrabet71743 ай бұрын

    WE ... ARE... ZED.

  • @yeeto2666
    @yeeto26663 ай бұрын

    i will never stop playing zed even he is the weakest mid lane champ in the game

  • @Alex-fo5tl
    @Alex-fo5tl3 ай бұрын

    well zed is the only reason i still play this game.

  • @wildscooter1
    @wildscooter12 ай бұрын

    Teemo lit getting a satan skin bcz the community asked for it for YEARS, this guy: "Zed is the most hated"

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