League of nationalists: How far can new Le Pen-Orban alliance go? • FRANCE 24 English
The optics are startling. Russia bombing a children’s hospital in Kyiv while the leader of the country that holds the rotating presidency of the European Council wrapped up a so-called peace tour that included stops in Moscow and Baku before Beijing. At no point during his Kremlin visit did Hungary’s Viktor Orban denounce Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine nor display an EU flag.
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Go Orban Viktor!!! Vive Le Pen !!!✌️🙏
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
Yeah, go LOOSERS! GO! haha.
@gtrdxz
14 күн бұрын
@@kiskawillis cry more 🤣
You discussing fake news warmongering liars showed an actor covered in blood even though you know he was a fake actor with red paint on him. There is an actual video of him being caught in the act🤬🤬🤬
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
and you're a bot or brain dead. What's your point?
Orban visited Ukraine first, why ignore that. Blessed are the peacemakers
@dweb
16 күн бұрын
@@bodyloverz30🇭🇺 🤝 🇷🇺 🤝 🇨🇳 🤝 🇰🇵 HU 🤝 RU 🤝 CH 🤝 NK Viktor Orbán shows his true colors and loyalty.
@DirtyRocha
16 күн бұрын
The only blessing needed is for you to get a brain, unless it is not clear that he does it for personal gain.
@willaxesawian9242
16 күн бұрын
its amazing how little politicians need to muddy the waters to confuse people. A traitor can still say their 'please' and 'thank you' when it helps them
@matej5061
15 күн бұрын
True
@HiepNguyen-xs2pr
15 күн бұрын
what is the point to visit Ukraine? Orban is always pro Russia and withheld EU aids to Ukraine, just a show
Warmongers are not happy
@cinziam457
16 күн бұрын
Putin's a warmonger. So is America.
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
Are you referring to the person who targets children's hospitals and schools? That warmonger? Yes, you're right; he's not pleased with the latest NATO announcement about air defense. But you're just a bot (or brain dead), so this conversation is a waste of my time that I can never get back. 😄
She seems upset about "democracy in action".
@uromvictor
15 күн бұрын
@@cinziam457 The is nothing Democratic about Totalitarianism. (and single think)
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
@@uromvictor Democracy in action? Are you referring to RUZZIA and their Z-Army as democracy? That's hilarious. Actually, you should buy a one way ticket to Moscow haha
41:46 I would remind her that there was no massive rejection, RN got 37% of the popular vote, and second place got 26%. The polls were spot on, and the parlament projections would come true if the system and the people were left to freely vote, instead politicians decided to meddle by denying their voters to vote for certain parties depending on their region, forcing voters to either vote tactically or to not vote at all, abusing a system that is meant to favor pluralities, precicely to avoid a hung parlament...... This is contempt for the electorate, and it is contempt for frances democratic system.
@RangerXXT
16 күн бұрын
looking at the numbers....no they didn't get 37%, which by the way much smaller than 63% so what are you saying?
@LightForxes
15 күн бұрын
@@TheSam661 WTF are you smoking lol? RN first round got 33.21% of the vote (10.6mil) AND the second round RN scored the highest at 37.06% (10.1mil). Use your brain or go back to school and learn how to read results..
@tudormiller887
15 күн бұрын
Same here in 🇬🇧 But more subtle.
Hypocrisy defined. When did the U.N count. Its alarms about Isreal was not heeded
Wow! All France 24 was able to invite for this one sided debate is a MEP Karen! 😂😂😂
@uromvictor
15 күн бұрын
A serious Karen.
Never forget, you make peace with the enemy. Who argues for war, is a kleptocrat.
The "Karen" from the MEP Greens is hilarious. Her concern is reassuring to me.
@Leptospirosi
16 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more! 😂😂😂 Her entitlement and delusion are just on another level! 😂😂😂
@cinziam457
16 күн бұрын
Using the term "Karen" appeals to lowest-common denominator.
@cinziam457
16 күн бұрын
@@Leptospirosi Are you a professional comedian?!!
@Zanzan8
15 күн бұрын
@@cinziam457....says who
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
@@cinziam457 no, it is the perfect term. you just dont like it because youre a karen too.
😆Italy PM Meloni , don't want to have photo with the rest of G7 leader. This is bad luck. All of them will be gone 2025.
Europeans lecturing Russia on war crimes but when the USA invades or destabilize other countries, the Europeans are very quiet and no where to be found. 🤔
@csabatoth7205
15 күн бұрын
the funny they want lecture hungary about the russians too :) we one of the nations in europe who fight 5 war against russia!!!!! simple delusioned who think the hungarians friend with russia or we forget the messacre in 56. funny this ppl say in hungary have dictatorship and eu use censura all over western europe. Eu its economic alliance not a kingship!! Hungary want peace beacuse the human life its more important then the politic carriers. we never say ukraine give up anything just start talk!!!
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
They even try to make it look bad that orban is on a peace mission... imagine that
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
Oh shut up will you. No one buys into that line of argument anymore. Two wrongs don't make it right. NO one is buying what you're selling ;-)
@gtrdxz
14 күн бұрын
I dont think america has invaded a single "stable" country 🤣but dont complain when they dont help your country
Lepen afd meloni orban a natural reaction to globalists 😂
"Fidesz" is pronounced with an English "s" (like "snake"). Hungarian "sz"= English "s", not "sh".
@Hurgardet
13 күн бұрын
Yes. But they are speaking English, not Hungarian. 🎉
@andraslantos2325
12 күн бұрын
@@Hurgardet But "sz" is not pronounced like "ship" in English. Pronouncing "feedesh" is just wrong, not English.
@Hurgardet
10 күн бұрын
@@andraslantos2325 There is no sz construct in English so he fudged it.
@andraslantos2325
9 күн бұрын
@@Hurgardet Yes, that's what I'm saying, it's lame. Fidesz appears on this channel regularly, it would be elegant to pronounce it right.
I do find it dirty for LePen to make an alliance with Orban almost immediately after the French elections were over. They knew it would be unpopular.
@invisible-zt8xh
16 күн бұрын
Le Pen won 10m votes ALONE while each coalition got 6m each. What are you talking about? France is not a democracy.
@Leptospirosi
16 күн бұрын
It's politics: RN needed another group (ID had dissolved) and being in a group has been the main goal for Orban (money and commissions roles in the parliament) from the begin. ECR would probably not have accepted RN because of unclear stances about NATO and Ukraine. The Lega has always been more akin to Orban then to Le Pen, so it was a clear shifter. Entering the Patriots was probably the only option, but at least they did it after group rates had been fixed, when the EU commissions are assigned by size of the group. ECR was still the third on 4th July due to that decision so Orban influence is reduced. Things could also change and permanence in a group is not enforced: everyone can leave at any time. I'm not a Le Pen fan due to certain positions being kept murky on purpose, but she's always better then the Red caravanserrai which Macron sparked.
@cinziam457
16 күн бұрын
And yet she was quick to accuse the left of dirty tactics in creating an alliance, which is par for the course. Le Pin, Orban, Putin, Trump, Erdogan, Meloni, Bolsonaro (just indicted for money laundering)....Fascists.
@meisievannancy
15 күн бұрын
DIRTY?
@fujack99
15 күн бұрын
Probably he does not know what he is talking! DIRTY??? LOL
The new European will emerge after the election of Trump 😂Christ is King 👑
Orban is a pragmatic leader😂with Hungary benefiting from his look east policies😂
@vilmosprima1861
15 күн бұрын
juniormolefe What has Hungary benefited from "his look east policies"?
Europe has always needed people shouting from the front but the ever closer union develops from within, not from the front.
5:05 someone must talk to him if we want the war to end 🎉.😢
These people are such hypocrites
Orban is also going to Washington and then zEU parliament, but they don't mention that.
Only ours. Because when i think about it, its loyal too me periodically
Any truth in the rumour that France is changing its national flag from the tricolour to a white flag?
Gwendoline, oh Gwendoline, you are worried of loosing control over media, courts and people will have a say again, they will be able to say what they think about you.
Gwendoline...Greens MEP is a real Karen. Looks like she has no clue. Thanks to them, Russia is now the fastest growing country in Europe
Peace! No more war! All that push words in favour of war should do that from the frontline. They should go fight the war they push, not send others!
Elizabeth made me mad so lets try too pretend that, didn't happen
Theres not very much too say under wraps unless its pensions. They don't also
As a god king, i hate people, who give advice without acknowledgement and English channels are bad for that and i underestimate the dog act
Guessing is a system now . Lets make sure we follow or do absolutely nothing. Like zilch
he didn't display an EU flag how terrible
@Harsh-mg2em
15 күн бұрын
I agree, EU is a disaster and Hungary should leave it! let's do a campaign for Hungary to actually leave EU, they need to be free since they hate it so much.
A good question. But they do offer an alternative to EU countries that are increasingly being stressed by the EU Commission's heretic policies.
This guy s english is so irritating to my ears.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. EU knows its weakest link and its foes know it too and are happy to use it. Find it funny that they know what will happen and do nothing about it and complain once it happens.
Like we work for free or something. That tale is they do
A long Chevrolet of something no Ferrari
How do you live with yourself knowing you’re lying about who bombed the hospital even though everybody now knows the truth from video evidence🤬🤬🤬 You will some day be held to account
European values did not stop European countries from committing war crimes and creating humanitarian crises around the world. For the last 20-30 years as a result of NATO's military interventions as well as provision of military equipment and support around 2 million civilians died in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Palestine. It's almost 100 time more than Russia killed so far in Ukraine. And after all of that they have the gall to teach Orban how he should conduct peace negotiations and whom he is allowed to visit and whom he is not.
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
You almost sounded intelligent for a second. :D
Regression is not the solution to saving religion. If religion is to be maintained in light of academic revelations it needs a rebirth, it needs to synchronise with the discovered truths, not attempt mask, deny them. New conservatism, not classicism.
@i.m.gurney
15 күн бұрын
To be clear, world wide, I believe all variants of religion require this rebirth transition to bring themselves inline with the discovered truth. Discovery that has yet to conclude.
Basically the left loosing power and they are concerned. Nice debate, all about "far-right". If the left cant even get to the point where they cant talk about the right wing without labeling them to far-right, fascist, then whats the point to even sit down, and talk to them. Propaganda from the left. Half way i stopped, this is just a whining, not a debate.
If worlds had sence of smell they probably pick up on hamster dung then debate fairness
Hopefully mr Orban is done domestically after his Moscow and China tours…..this is getting ridiculous….one can be patriotic without being a traitor….also one can be nationalistic of ALL persuasions, because there have been nationalistic parties from the far left to the far right , historically, in europe and South America ….Anyway, people in mr Melenchons camp are also not that pro EU and pro immigration, from what i understand, in France?🇫🇷
@brianawuor1824
16 күн бұрын
Uncle Sam said get off ma d**k.
@DirtyRocha
16 күн бұрын
A big sector of the population is already fed up and done with him, it will only get worse for him in 2 years until the next election, where he may finally fall. In the mean time you'll keep seeing "closet" rightoids, bragging.
@MrCleitus
15 күн бұрын
You have no clue what Orban is trying to do with these visits, none.
@freeman041
15 күн бұрын
Orban is the kind of leader Europe needs desperately
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
peace makers are the new traitors? since when and according to who? you pal??? dont make me laugh
In the motion, we own absolutely nothing. Wheres theyre trade agreements, let me tell you where it is, its nowhere where they can find or see it, so if its Roman empire they rant or whatever humans do in governmental terms /standards they can scream too the Himalayas and reach ping pong mountain and view any white monk they desire . As concerned,only. Maybe
We hope for the best only. Maybit be Roman rulership eh. I know boris has one in his room
If marbles had a way id collect. I don't. They do though. Mines coming
best of luck for the new group👍
@matej5061
15 күн бұрын
I hope for that too party from my country was been one of founders of this party
The shouty, studenty left protested in the streets when not winning the first round. Did the NR supporters protest in the streets when not winning the second round? Who is a bigger threat to democracy?
@soundscape26
16 күн бұрын
Seemingly nobody because I don't think democracy in France will be cancelled either way.
@Lisa-my5sy
16 күн бұрын
The left is extremely violent
So i look to big willy and see if his groupies are relevant. Which they're not ,as English literature not channel. Barriers
If you look at England's king of today, theres a huge translation loss that you and i never pick up and i believe its Williams height that makes me talk too Charles more. Is that logical because if so Boris Johnson has something say today
See if it fits
With black pilots
So called "EU intellectuals" craving for Ukrainian sacrifices from the sofa between some ideological orientational workshops in the comfy EU meeting rooms.
Stand my brothers
My captain you know of , has logistics as English literature and the culture they bring isnt policy i know that first glance. When they drop my daughter off and use the animal for dates
Words are powerful ask why again
Maybe rice will grow. In trees
@user-gb7bn2wd5y
14 күн бұрын
For his kindness
@user-gb7bn2wd5y
14 күн бұрын
Only
⭐️
Gamble
Like my black wife
No Cadillac hursts
And Mennonite acupuncture
Risks a word, try roman cathedral
I live for casinos. Please let me slide by and wage
Nowhere
Pan flays the scions of dimunitive Jove, tormented scribes fashion words for town criers rage to against the plebs.
If they are the Patriots I prefer to be anti-Patriot. 😂
@Harsh-mg2em
15 күн бұрын
Orban is a patriot of his and his friends pockets
And toy factories
In Romes cap
#fakenews
Axis of cruelty
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
yeah! ursula and biden should be in JAIL !!!
You guys shound governor
Yay patriots!
"A foreigner is a foreigner" Live with that 😂 Migrant entitlement mentality
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The LEAGUE OF EUROPEAN LEADERSHIP
@StarSprangledBanner
16 күн бұрын
*Russian
@soundscape26
16 күн бұрын
Aside from lacking the support of the majority of Europeans yeah...
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
@@StarSprangledBanner EUROPEAN
We should trade Hungary for Ukraine with Putin. Ukraine can join EU, Orban can join Soviet Union as he wants, everyone is happy.
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
was your day nice in kindergarten? did you draw with crayons ?
@Harsh-mg2em
15 күн бұрын
@@ZsH85 Are you one of those libs who defends the EU? It's a very bad institution, if you agree, you should want based Hungary out, otherwise you're a lib too.
@numeronoo8080
15 күн бұрын
Hülye vagy😂😂😂 senki nem akarjs ukrajnat😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Viktor Orbán is the hard lesson for the EU to never again accept a Trojan Horse into the union and then also give in to their blackmail.
@MrCleitus
15 күн бұрын
Yeah, he wants peace in Europe, only fools want that right.
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
wow peace talks are sooooo bad yeah! they cannot push their ww3 ! booo
@Culturesocialism-cz7jx
15 күн бұрын
The EU leaders do not want freedom of speech. And they want to distribute war propaganda. .. Orban is a rock star who is for peace and for the freedom of speech like the rock stars in 1960s.
@kiskawillis
15 күн бұрын
exactly right!
@ZsH85
15 күн бұрын
@@kiskawillis why are you guys believing and spreading nonesense? cant you see whats happening? really, you cant?
Slava Rossiya #RN #AdF #MAGA2024
THE LEAGUE OF YOUR FUTURE JAILERS!
@perseuspersikus6830
16 күн бұрын
Psycho
@karoltomis5704
16 күн бұрын
Berman of Solzhenitzin fame
@aspencouloir761
16 күн бұрын
As opposed to the nut jobs, who want to put people in prison for mean tweets, and online posts & control speech? The tyrants are already in the house, but too many people are “govern me harder, daddy” fools
Go Russia go orban China 😂😂😂
@rolyrodriguez1000
16 күн бұрын
Russia and China have a recession coming. A big one.
@Culturesocialism-cz7jx
15 күн бұрын
And after that take Brussels!