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When I began to really feed my detailing passion, I never envisioned the journey I would take. I have become aware that to get the most enjoyment, satisfaction from your work, is the ability to learn the benefits of the products you chose to purchase. Channels like yours Jon, has only added to the journey, passion and satisfaction of the end result. Another great video. Till the next one.
I have been waiting a long time for this the comparison. Thank you
Love your enthusiasm in your videos brilliant learning videos. Enjoy all your content
Used to be an avid user of fusso but switched to gyeon q2 wax and the water behaviour and gloss is awesome.
Just bought a tub of FUSSO and a tub of MIRROW SHINE through you recommendation Jon👍🏻 Looking forward to polishing and then adding it when I've got time and conditions are favourable.
I literally just bought fusso today at a car show, got home and rewatched your fusso video, then this evening you release this. Are you watching me john?
Hey there, I've been getting fed up of my car looking rubbish after drive through car washes. So I had a look on KZread and came across your channel, wow the amount of knowledge about detailing is mega confusing for a beginner. Your channel has helped me choose some products though and gave me confidence to try it for myself. Ordered a ton of gear from soft99 and will be trying out the claybar, the micro liquid compound and the fusso wax. Fingers crossed I get it right. Thank you for your informative videos and subbed to your channel.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Your welcome
I’m going to try fusso and megs tech wax combo didn’t think of doing double wax trick before
Just done my first maintenance wash after applying fusso coat last weekend. Dirt practically fell off, thanks for the recommendation of this product.
@ForensicDetailing
9 ай бұрын
Great to hear.
I love layering waxes like that. I love it! So I have layered it now i put two layers of fusso coat and two layers of the king of gloss and still thinking should I put two layers of Soft99 Smooth Egg Platinum or Soft99 Fusso Coat Speed & Barrier Hand Spray for ultimate gloss and protection and water beating 🤔 I have done now like this that I did put the wax over the whole car at once and then buffed it of so it was on little bit longer than 10 minutes and then I let it harden for 4 hours before putting the second layer and then I waited 24 hours before putting next wax on top of the first one. I can tell it’s looks amazing but I’m still not happy enough before I try a spray wax on top of this. 😅 I was thinking to let it be for two days before adding that just so it’s 100% harden and cured before adding two layers of a third wax
Awww man, i was expecting the gloss meter to compare them. But great video! Much appreciated
really cool to see you are doing more Soft99 product videos John🤙 Do you also got the Mirror Shine liquide Wax???
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
I don't have this m8
Hi mate, as the weather brightening up I think it's finally time to start correcting my merc. Gonna go with koch F6 and P3, which will hopefully be enough for swirls and the odd scratch, there's no deep imperfections. Anyway, I'm not sure what to do for protection. I know ceramics are the best in terms of protection but they don't have that special wax look. Plus I wash the car every week so re application every so often doesn't really bother me. I have a few waxes/sealants but I want something really good that has good durability, good hydrophobic etc. Is there anything you would recommend? I can see myself going for some of these soft99 ones but wondering if there's anything better. Cheers
Another really interesting video John,for me fusso coat is the most durable of waxes , I top it up with king of gloss every couple of months, and after each wash spray some sonax bsd on as a topper!
Good video Jon, really useful stuff. I have Fusso and Speed and Barrier but I'm very interested in the Mirror Shine, that looks a doddle to use. All the best mate.
@Mackembri62
9 ай бұрын
King of gloss on top of fusso is the best result I have ever had constantly getting complaints of how shiny my car looks and the beading is spectacular 😊
@decker0373
9 ай бұрын
@brianohalloran9321 I bet you love the complaints too 🤣. I bought the Mirror Shine, it is indeed a doddle to use and looks great. All the best, Brian.
Hi!! You can first use the Fusso Coat and then apply the Extreme Gloss Black Wax? Thank you so much!!
@forensicdetailing maybe you could do a clip or series about detailing PPF'd cars? I'd be really interested in the difference in prepping and (light) ceramics.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Can do m8 freshlayers know all about ppf
Bizzarro stuff. I've been detailing cars in Japan for ages and cannot find Fusso anywhere.
Hi Do you recommend to youe those yelow geniune fuse pads ?will the scratch the paint or are they safe to use ,
Nice explanation in a spring season! Just a little question from newbie - is it ok to use Gyeon Ceramic Detailer over Fusso?
@123waser
11 ай бұрын
Yes I do it with good results.
Hi jon, i have my base from fusso. If i would like to top up with mirror shine after 2 months over fusso, do i need to decon the car or just basic wash?
Hey! Great video and awesome comparison between these products! Quick question, I have the Fusso coat wax and the Fusso Coat Speed & Barrier quick detailing spray (Fusso Coat Boost). I thought to top up the original Fusso coat wax it is recommended to use the Fusso Coat Boost spray after washing the car or every couple of months or so? Is it possible to use this spray to top up the original Fusso wax or in combination with one of these 3 waxes you have compared in this video? Seems like they can all be applied as a topper if and when needed to extend the durability and protection of the wax? Thanks!
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
yes m8 if you like to top with a spray product speed and barrier is the same tech as fusso. They even call it fusso booster.
Wheres the gloss meter?
Could you layer water splash on top also?
Love the videos, Could I use Auto glym ceramic after using fusso dark on my car?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
no mate it wont bond
I have a test pot of Forensic hand made wax in the garage. Worth thousands now!😂
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
hehe :) I think I have a pot as well I might put it on my car for fun :)
Timely video having just used Fusso coat on my car. I bought some Kiwami extreme a while ago and it gave my pant an amazing gloss and great beading for a short period of time. My paint was really slick to the touch. The lack of durability meant that I relegated it to a summer wax. I also found that it didn’t seem to like Gyeon QD. I decided to try Fusso this year given how everyone raves about it. Same slick paint and impressive beading. I still had some Kiwami left, so I topped up the Fusso with that yesterday. The gloss is now epic, and I’ll top it up again in a few months. The Soft99 waxes do give an awesome slick feel, more so than many other waxes I’ve tried although they are a bit dustier to remove. The beading is good too; I had my car cleaned whilst on holiday last summer after being forced to park near a tree and getting covered in sap. The guy thought it had been ceramic coated because of the beading.
Thanks for the vid. Nowadays what’s the opinion about these waxes vs a ceramic coating? Thanks.
@ForensicDetailing
4 ай бұрын
coatings last longer mate. they are simply a specialist hard curing resin. but if you like buffing your car to a shine then the coating perhaps is not fr you.
Good afternoon. I'm from Brazil and I follow your channel. Have you tried wetting the sponge before using Fusso Coat or King off Gloss? You can do this with any Soft99 wax. Try it and you will approve
Question: my product dried out..cover wasnt shut properly, can I still use it? can I add a bit of water? or is there anything to do or it is wasted.
dah i apply kuwami on top of kuwami?
Hey John, how long would you usually wait in between Fusso and a top coat? 2-3 hours? Cheers, thank you for all the info you provide 👍🏼
@ForensicDetailing
Ай бұрын
Yes m8 at least 1 hour.
Hello !!! What about scratch x ?
Hi Jon, did you try already the Soft99 H9 Glass coating? I wonder if can be applied for headlight, tail light and any glossy plastic parts? Thanks
@ForensicDetailing
11 ай бұрын
Not 5ried h9 m8
I'm addicted to these videos. Great stuff. Thanks! Any chance of reviewing the cheaper Amazon/ supermarket end of the scale products? Carplan no gloss, dirt busters shampoo etc. Would be great to see how they compare to your pro chems.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
ive done reviews or the Amazon basics and Carplan stuff mate. They are cheap but the detergents lack the sort of bite Im after personally, a little bit watery. But the amazon basics shampoo I thought was good for the price. you wont save money though mate. Save money buy buying the winners of my shoot outs. For example car chem 1900:1 shampoo buy 5 litres of that for like 14 quid on black friday and you use like 5-10 ml a wash. That will last you a lifetime. Buy 5 litres of surfex HD etc... see detailing on a budget video I did.
@StateGiant796
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing apologies, I must have missed those. I thought I'd viewed them all. Thanks for the advice👍
Great video Jon, forgive me if so, but has there ever been any advice what to do with spent mic-fibes once they are full of polish? Can you wash them? Do you just buy new ones? Can they be used for other things if not? Thanks!
@ForensicDetailing
10 ай бұрын
Wash them m8
Great video as ever Jon! Have you tried Soft99 Water Block? That one is meant to have the best hydrophobicity.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Not yet
@kwl189
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing put it on your list because it’s really good and I hope it can be layered on top of Fusso.
Nice video! May I use fusso coat and soft99 luxury gloss?
@ForensicDetailing
4 ай бұрын
Yes u can
Lovely video i am looking at a decent wax is there a link to the website to have a look at the deal?.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
In the description m8
John, i haven't had a great experience using fusso and am reluctant to try it again. In your opinoin how would mirror shine go as a stand alone wax? On a side note i use kiwami with great results. In my scenario i get easy 6 months from the kiwami.
@ForensicDetailing
11 ай бұрын
stick with the kiwammi mate. you have a good all rounder there.
Finally!! The most confusing part.
So pleased you've done this John. I've got the decontamination wash and rewax coming up in the next few weeks so all looks good for summer. Huge Soft99 fan so this is a well aimed video. Question - Where does Fusso Speed and Barrier fit? I use this regularly, about every 4 weeks and am pleased with the bead effects
@decker0373
Жыл бұрын
Speed & Barrier is designed as a topper for Fusso. But if you wanted a paste wax, what Jon has just referred to can be used.
@daveharper8707
Жыл бұрын
I'll probably continue with Speed and Barrier then, soooo easy and quick to apply. Thank you
@decker0373
Жыл бұрын
@Dave Harper I've had it in the garage since black friday but I changed car in December and haven't applied fusso to the new car, so I haven't had a chance to use it yet. 🙃
@daveharper8707
Жыл бұрын
@@decker0373 having done a bit more KZread watching, applying S&B monthly is a wee bit excessive. Only needs to be every 3 months. Ah, well you live and learn. Happy waxing when you get round to it 🤣
John any thoughts on (a) two coats of Fusso Coat and (b) Turtle Wax Seal and Shine as a top up ? I waxed the car with Bilt Hamber Double Speed wax last year and every other wash top it up with S and S and its been brillant. I'm wondering if TW Seal and Shine is worth it or should you go with one of the other Soft 99 products? Have to blame the channel and Johns videos for making us all splurge out on car care products!
@ForensicDetailing
9 ай бұрын
Not tested that. But like fir like fussi topped with speed and barrier is like fir like
Great video as usual. As I continue to fall further down the rabbit hole of detailing and car care products. 😅 How come nobody talks about the Soft99 water block wax?
@ForensicDetailing
10 ай бұрын
I have compared all the waxes in a video. I don't think water block is as good as fusso
@JF997
10 ай бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing yeah I found it after commenting on this one. 😅 You're the only one so far that has done such an extensive review of all the Soft99 waxes.
What about tipping fusso with Bilt hamber double speed wax
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
untested combo. But double speed on its own is very very good specially for 15 quid.
So I've applied king of gloss on top of fusso. And now a i want to maintain them. Should i get the speed and barrier or the luxxury gloss ? And will there be compatibility issue ?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Just wash m8 and some qd m8.. luxoury gloss will be fine
is the new fusso coat formula still the same since 4 years ago? or do you believe they have improved it's durability?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Not sure m8 don't know if any revisions
After applying Fusco do you still do the normal car wash with soap or water will do? Thanks!
@ForensicDetailing
8 ай бұрын
Yes m8
Fusso and collinite 845 on top?
Hi John can you add graphene max to the wax over the fusso coating and top up with gyeon detailer spray? (Obviously not straight away but sometime later) Will this compromise the effectiveness of the fusso coating?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
truth is I dont know mate, but give it a whirl see what happens should be ok. Although if you get fusso just top it with fusso booster and you know it will work.
@Adamasher8888
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing thank you
Sir, I have a black car. want to polish using tw hybrid acrylic black polish. can i use soft 99 as a top coat? or vice versa? Thank You..
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
You can but I would not bother with the black acrlic wax. Just use the normal hybrid solutions ceramic wax primer thing. That should work well with the fusso waxes. Not keen on heavily pigments products, platlets or no platlets.
Great video, can I ask a question. Can I use fusso on top of a glaze like poorboys? Getting so many conflicting answers online. I'm not a detailer but just want the best for my cars paint.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Yes most glaze use acrylic resin the fusso might degrade that but in reality should be fine
@weshall5679
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing brilliant cheers
@SnakeDoctor5104
Жыл бұрын
I have done exactly this before. It will work, but it seemed to affect the longevity of the Fusso Coat, so don't expect to get the 12 month claim.
Jon, not picking on Fuso but can you do a test, top coat on its own, base coat and top coat and 3 layer combo if applicable, do your usual gloss, smoothness/slippery test, ‘look/depth of gloss’ test, then the main one, your longevity test… I am fairly certain these base, topper, topper topper are 99% marketing by both the manufacturers and the detailers. Any improvement needs to be very evident as the cost of the extra product and time need to be offset for a real return…. So if layering gives you a noticeable improvement in ‘gloss’ (depth, slipperiness etc) AND 3-6 months more longevity between coats without having to resort to ‘boasters’ on intermediary washes then great, my sceptical side has been proven wrong… but in my experience, I haven’t seen a benefit other than physiological The manufacturer would make a ‘one coat’ to meet the needs of any ardent detailer/owner without the need for ‘layering’ but layering pays… its like having insurance on insurance… madness.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
i got a vid coming soon on all the waxes mate. but after that. gloss meter readings will be the same I would guess. durability im interested in.
Been using the original fusso for years now, I just tend to top fusso with fusso rather than another wax topper. In my opinion, this might not be correct, but wouldn’t you be hiding the hydrophobic properties of fusso by topping it with a less hydrophobic wax?Let’s face it, fusso is all about the beading for me personally. I love the stuff. Don’t know what everyone else thinks?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
yer in theory you might mask the beading of fusso or loose the dirt repellency. So for lots they will just use Fusso and in 6 months light polish and put more fusso on. that works.
@samcourt6228
Жыл бұрын
I found Kiwami to be really hydrophobic. It just didn’t last that long unfortunately.
Many thanks for this great video. If Fusso lasts say 12 months, what do you do after the year? Do you wash, decontaminate, prep and reapply the Fusso Coat? Your video does not cover this. It only discusses the first application. Can you please explain.
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
in 12 months time you wash car. feel paintwork to see if it has contamintion. If its sat in a garage for 12 months it wont for example. If its been used every day it will. You then clay if necesary. Then polish if necesary and then apply protection. Remember LSP is there to reduce contamination. paint should not feel dry and rough like unprotected paint. aint of the game is to reduce contamination build up over that 12 months so it does not need major paint correction again (because you only have X amount of clearcoat).
@user-pz6dw3ot8j
5 ай бұрын
Many thanks, John, for the speedy reply. That helps a lot. [LSP = Last Step Protection, which in this case is the Fusso wax covering the factory clearcoat paint, right?] My car sits in a garage overnight, but is used all year round for short trips to the stores, golf club, etc. So there will be some contamination, even if I diligently wash it every two weeks or so. In Canada, we also have to deal with snow, ice and salt on our roads.
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
yes mate. the contamination tends to build up on the panels behind the wheels and the rear section of the car. but can get everywhere for example if yuou park under a tree and get some sap...
And, if you apply Fusso with a one of these three topper waxes and top up every 2 or 3 months, what do you do after the first 12 months? Does your base coat of Fusso remain intact so you don't need to reapply and you just keep adding the topper wax every 2 or 3 months? Or do you have to wash, decontaminate, prep and start all over again with a coat of Fusso and the topper wax?
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
same as previous answer mate. after 12 months do the full inspection, potentual decopn, potential polish. then reapply base LSP.
@user-pz6dw3ot8j
5 ай бұрын
Again, that's super helpful, John. Many thanks! So I likely will need to reapply the base coating of 12 month Soft 99 at the end of the year, but not necessarily. Even with 2 cars, happily. the Soft99 comes with so much wax, that the one tin will last 5+ years. Glad that it does not spoil like some other products that have to be used within say a year of first using the product, sadly including TAC Moonlight. You get so much product in a 200 ml bottle of TAC Moonlight that you cannot use it all even if you own two cars and apply it every 6 months. They should offer it in bottles of 75 ml and/or 100 ml.
Just bought dark fusso coat and dark kiwami. Does Fusso Coat and Kiwami has any polishing compound in it? Cause I got some black piano gloss finish plastics and I worry they will get fine scratches on them. Please advise. Thank you
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
polishing compounds dont cause fine scratches mate thats like washing and drying thats causing that. but no they are both non abrasive mate.
@just4therecord
5 ай бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for your reply
hello, interesting topic. Does such layering of wax really make sense? How long should I wait after applying Fusso with another wax? Regards
@jaroslav22100
Жыл бұрын
from what I have heard, you should let the fusso coat dry to form a bond for some 12 hours before applying a second layer of a different wax... but I would also like to get an advice from someone more experienced...
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
I waited an hour or 2
@chrissantosgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing I was thinking 12 hours for it to harden before applying another Soft99 🤔...
@chrissantosgarage
Жыл бұрын
@@jaroslav22100 after application, the wax should wait at least 12 hours for it to bond well with the varnish. during this time, it must not be exposed to moisture 😉
What if u put 2 layers of original fusso coat. I got 2 cans of the original. Can u do that?
@ForensicDetailing
10 ай бұрын
Yes you can but minimal gains m8
It is ok if i put kiwami first and then fusso coat?
@ForensicDetailing
9 ай бұрын
no mate thats not good.
Sometimes less is more though!
can you layer soft99 with ceramic coating?
@ForensicDetailing
7 ай бұрын
no m8
Would it make sense to wax a ceramic coated car?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
In theory no, see waxing a coated car video
how long should i wait in between layering fusso with something like king of gloss?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Unknown but maybe like 30 to 60 mins?
@ceasar5871
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing just wanted to add in, i had done a test section on my cars door comparing all the waxes i had, and by far fusso won. But after sometime all of them were dead and i got my self a tub of KOG when i watched this video. I applied it to the same car, crazy water beading. Lo and behold 1 month passed, during rinsing i noticed where i had applied fusso previously, it was reacting very well to the water. Like the fusso section was sheeting faster making a prominant 'box' if that makes sense. Thought that was pretty cool.
would kawami work over pb blackhole ? @forensicdetailing
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
yes mate
@damienlove2003
5 ай бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing thanks John 👍🏼
Why would you layer a 2nd wax instead of double applying fusso coat or applying it more frequently?
@ForensicDetailing
6 ай бұрын
i think if your just interested in making out fusso then 2 layers of fusso is better bang for buck. But the mirror shine for example has no cure time so you can sort of slap it on a few months later to shine it up.
@lukus9419
6 ай бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing that's a fair point. Maybe another question you could answer.. I have the white fusso coat but my new car is dark grey, can it still be used anywhere or should I just give it away?
@ForensicDetailing
6 ай бұрын
white fusso absolutely fine on the grey car mate.
Black car. Kiwami or Fusso 99 dark?
@ForensicDetailing
Ай бұрын
kiwammi for looks but fusso for protection
Do you prefer fusso over ceramic coatings? If so, why?
@ForensicDetailing
6 ай бұрын
no mate, I would leave the coating alone to do its thing.
@darude1167
5 ай бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing Sure. What I meant was, do you like fusso more than ceramic coatings? If you had to choose, whats your pick? Fusso or ceramic?
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
Oh right. Yes m8 I do
@darude1167
5 ай бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing Lovely, do you care to explain why? I think I lean towards fusso too.
@ForensicDetailing
5 ай бұрын
you cant really polish up your car once you coated it. I like that sort of buff and shine approach to car care
Hi John, can it be suitable to apply Soft99 white wax on top of Fusso coat? Or vice versa? Many thanks.
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
I dont think its design to go on top at least soft 99 said these 3 will work on top of fusso. proof is always in the pudding though.
Love Fusso , but never topped it off with anything... Cool that Soft 99 made these , guess i would need a gloss meter to see the difference? ;-)
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
I dont think the gloss meter will tell the different in any of these products if the underlying paintwork is good and polished. But saying that when you buff a fresh wax on regardless of data it adds like a fresh shine, so its like the desire to put something on and buff it too a shine.
Mirror shine is amazing but doesn’t last 3 months. Only Fusso lasts longer
Can't help but feel this layering thing is mumbo jumbo, surely the last product applied is the one which take effect. For instance Fusso covered with Seal & Shine, the Turtle Wax product would be the one who's properties are in effect. Sounds like a waste of time and money 🤷🏼♂
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Fair play I think some think this but if you like waxing etc
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
Fair play I think some think this but if you like waxing etc
John can you tell me how old is the Fusso layer under this three toppings ?
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
It's freshly applied m8
@markusdetailing516
Жыл бұрын
@@ForensicDetailing thanks my friend 😊
Tennis elbow is hurting just watching. Its not buying it that’s a problem…. It’s applying it that’s the problem. Right I’ll have some of that then. Add to the ever increasing collection of decaying detailing products. Maybe worth something in future if left unopened. I can’t be the only one? 🫣✌️👍🇬🇧
@HantsLeo
Жыл бұрын
My collection is like a museum too 😂
@steveng5503
Жыл бұрын
@@HantsLeo I’m really pleased that’s the case Philip… was beginning to think it’s only me and that I have another problem! 😆👍
@ForensicDetailing
Жыл бұрын
mate its 100 times worse if you have a detailing channel :)