I feel called and have started praying the little office of the b.v.m. i didnt seek it, it found me, or rather Carmelite saints have graced me with signal graces leading me towards this lay apostolate. There are 4 of us in our parish but one has lasped and no longer able to keep up with all yhe daily prayer due to eyesight issues.

I am very much interested to find out more about this particular vocation of a lay Carmelite. Thank you for this series of videos that will help me discern. The pull is there and your brief discussion about the charism of the Carmelite order pretty much clinched it for me. What you have described about discovering the loving presence of God within our souls and living our daily existence anchored in that loving presence is what I have been thirsting for all along. Thank you!

Prayer is essential, espeically mental prayer. Prayer comforts me and I seek the solitude of connecting with our Lord and the the church triumphant and the church suffering. Over the past few years dreams have revealed such a vocation formation.

My Church is starting a lay order of Carmelites. Your videos will be so helpful. God bless you for doing these videos.🙏🏼✝️❤️

@zephyrlaycarmelitemission

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your encouraging comments 😇

@Winston-op5de

Ай бұрын

@truthseekers5777 - There are two Carmelite orders: The O. Cam and the OCD (Ordo Carmelitarum Discalciatorum) which is the order founded by St. Teresa of Avila (Teresa of Jesus, OCD) and St John of the Cross, OCD. St. Teresa of Avila tried to reformed the O. Carm order in the middle 1500, when that didn't happen as the O. Carm were comfortable, she had to start her own order: the OCD (Discalced Carmelite Order). There are a lot of OCD Saints: St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross (Edith Stein, OCD). St. Theresse of Liseau (Therese of the Child Jesus, OCD). and many others. Their secular order is called (O.C.D.S) Order of Discalced Carmelite Secular). Which Carmelite order are you joining too: The O. Carm or the OCDS (Discalced Carmelite). Today both orders are friendly to each other. The OCDS calls themself a Secular Carmelita Order, not a Lay Order. The O. Carms called their secular order: Lay Order. If you want more information about the two orders of Carmelites, check them out on the web: O. Carm and OCDS (Discalced Carmelites). God. bless you.

I’m not catholic and I’m not even part of a church but for some reason feel called to this after learning about it. ❤

@Raych-

3 ай бұрын

Research, read, learn, take time to figure things out. I’m taking the first tentative steps into becoming a Lay Carmelite and it’s taken me 2 years to get here. I have a husband and children and put my calling to become a nun out of my mind as a young teen. I went to Catholic school and really felt like joining the nuns would be amazing. Then as I grew up I completely left the church and partied hard. I ended up marying young and building a family. 2 years ago I was yanked hard back to Catholicism and it freaked me out completely. Good luck with your explorations.

I often wish I had joined the Carmelites when I was young enough. My heart still yearns towards intimacy with Jesus and the Presence of God. Intercessory prayer is a way of life of course, whether in or out of a community - but I still regret not having joined a community.

@zephyrlaycarmelitemission

2 жыл бұрын

May be there is a Lay Carmelite Group near you?

@gingerbaker757

Жыл бұрын

It's not too late to become a Lay Carmelite...search this matter out as, I'm told that this order is prophesied to become the only religious order that survives into the Millenium!

@Winston-op5de

Ай бұрын

@@zephyrlaycarmelitemission Lay Carmelite or Secular Carmelite (OCDS). They are both Carmelites. The OCDS is the order of St. Terese of Avila (Terese of Jesus), St. Theresse of Liseau. St. John of the Cross. St. Teresa Benedict of the Crosss (Edith Stein). etc.

My spirit is always with the Carmelites in whichever God wants it to be.

Thank you! Im so glad I found you!

Very well explained - thank u .

I am a Lay Carmelite!

@ChicagoIL50

2 жыл бұрын

What state r u in?

@bryanlahaise595

2 жыл бұрын

I live in Minnesota.

@ntmn8444

2 жыл бұрын

What’s it like? I’m curious bc I love religious communities, but I’m trying to figure out if a third order is for me

@Winston-op5de

Ай бұрын

@@ntmn8444 Each religious order has a secular (lay) order. Franciscan (there are several Franciscan orders). The OFM is the first Franciscan order. Other orders: Dominicans, Benedictines, etc. Most religious order have secular (lay) orders. Check them out and see which one is for you. The internet is a good place to check this out.

Thank you so much for this series. It is meeting me exactly where I am. So much to learn and discern right now. Blessings to you.

@zephyrlaycarmelitemission

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and God bless your journey

Thank YOU for this GOOD WORK! Keep up the good work

I’ve been feeling a strong calling to the Carmelites for nearly a year now. I’m trying to find how to join a group of 3rd order lay Carmelites in the area of north central Illinois (Rockford area). I have been obedient to the brown scapular for a year now, and wish to learn more.

@zephyrlaycarmelitemission

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ali, please visit the website of the Lay Carmelites of the Most Pure Heart of Mary. They are based closer to your area. laycarmelitesfl.org/index.php/called/ Email: LayCarmelitesFL@runbox.com

@Winston-op5de

Ай бұрын

Check both orders: The Discalced Carmelites (Reform made by St. Teresa of Avila -Teresa of Jesus, OCD) or the O. Carm. Do some research and pick one. The one you want to join. God bless.

I would like to become a lay Carmelite

@Winston-op5de

Ай бұрын

Choose the lay or secular Carmelites. Do some research and see which one you want to join. You have two choices: Lay (O. Carm) Secular (OCD). Check them out and pick the one you want to follow. There is plenty of information on the web and you tube about the two orders.

Thank You for this video 🙏

I am called to be a religious sister

@zephyrlaycarmelitemission

2 жыл бұрын

That’s wonderful, will pray for you

@tinakathleen8571

2 ай бұрын

Embrace it. 😊

I have a slightly different perspective on prayer, sister. Some of the greatest Carmelite saints struggled with prayer. Saint Theresa, Jesus writes repeatedly on how she struggled with prayer. And she gives us many useful tools to help us in her writings such as the way of perfection. Saint Thérèse Also really struggled with prayer That was formal like the rosary. When I first became a third order carmelite I struggled with prayer but I went to them because I thought that it could help me strengthen the weakest part Of my life. I've always been known more of a teacher type or somebody Is talkative. Many people would say that I naturally fit More with the Dominicans. But I went to the carmelites because there everything that I was not. Now i'm just a Year away from final promises.

@Winston-op5de

Ай бұрын

@famvids9627 - The Discalced Carmelites: Priest, brothers, sisters and seculars follow the advise of St. Teresa of Avila (OCD) who does not tell us how to pray. She talks about the different forms of prayer, but it is up to you to pray the way that is comfortable to you, there is no rules for prayer. Prayer is a conversation one has with our Lord, different people have different ways of communicating with Him. Congratulations on receiving your final promise in a year. God bless you.

@famvids9627

25 күн бұрын

@Winston-op5de I'm a discalced Carmelite, have been for many years, and I disagree with you. Read the way of perfection by Teresa of Jesus (Avila). She gives very specific instructions on how to pray in order to reach perfection. If you go through formation as a Carmelite, they actually teach you how to do mental prayer because there is technique to it.

I think our sister here is a lay carmelite fr. The Order of the Carmelite or OCarm, im also a Lay Carmelite, but fr. d order of Discalced Carmelite or OCD, We are the Carmelite missionary Secular or CMS, Where our Blessed founder Blessed Francisco Palau OCD

Is there an age limit on a third order?

@zephyrlaycarmelitemission

25 күн бұрын

Anyone 18 and above are able to start formation to become a Lay Carmelite