Lawrence Krauss: Debate atheism, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, climate science, education & politics

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This is a joint production of ‪@IndiaGlobalLeft‬ and Plebity under the banner of Kiosk, an independent media coalition. We discuss with renowned theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss ‪@TheOriginsPodcast‬ some of his scientific works. We also discuss the barriers to effective communication and education, especially about science. Finally, we debate him about his involvement with New Atheists, and whether New Atheists are complicit in American imperialism and Islamophobia.
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  • @JoshDoVids
    @JoshDoVids3 ай бұрын

    I cannot believe this small channel has managed to wrangle such a huge variety of compelling thinkers on such wide range of topics. This is what independent media is all about. Keep up the fantastic work, Jyotishman!

  • @cheri238
    @cheri2383 ай бұрын

    Yes, I just finished listening to Lawrence Krauss on Robinson Erhardt's podcast and on Professor Krauss's also. It is so fascinating. Now I have found this one. Thank you all. Congratulations , for educating me. I also listened to Bernard Kastrup, Physicist and Dr. Iain McGilchrist books and lectures, The Master and His Emissary," The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World, " The Matter With Things," Our Brains Our Delusions and the Unmaking of the Western World. Dr. Richard Bohm, Physicist, who has now passed, " The Intrinsic Order of Being." Thank you, Dr. Lawrence Krauss, I was born in Alabama and moved here and there a bit, traveled extensively, now back home. What a trip. Racism and fascism are words of ignorance. I lived through the horrors of Bul Conner and George Wallace. Look at us now in 2024. I was Cherokee Indian, Spanish, and Irish Privatization of our American prisons, made billionaires out our elites. Alabama has worst prison sytem in the United States. Many atrocities around the world, true. There is light and dark in everthing , "The Redbook " Libra Novus edited and with an Introduction by Sonu Shamdasani and others updating his works

  • @zeistabbas6849

    @zeistabbas6849

    18 күн бұрын

    My goodness. How well read and aware you are. Fascinating about your lineage. What do you feel closest to? Which origin I mean. I wud be fascinated to know! Where are you based now?

  • @paulwhetstone0473
    @paulwhetstone04733 ай бұрын

    Jyotishman really impresses me with the scope of his curiosity and his ability to address topics with great questions for interesting guests.

  • @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins
    @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins3 ай бұрын

    The number one thing I don't like about this interview, or more specifically Krauss' responses, is he verbalises a tenant of science being an acceptance of fallibility, but he doesn't embody it, any time he's challenged he gets defensive and doesn't leave room for considering aspects of the alternative vision..

  • @4drops

    @4drops

    3 ай бұрын

    He's a smart idiot.

  • @williamdillon4520

    @williamdillon4520

    2 ай бұрын

    It's called arrogance, I don't understand how apparently smart people are so stupid . May Allah guide him.

  • @andreselectrico

    @andreselectrico

    Ай бұрын

    I fully agree. I have seen several interviews in this podcast, and most of the time you can enjoy the exchange. The Interviewer is always respectful and interesting, even when disagreeing. Most interviewees feel comfortable and relax. But in this case, Prof. Krauss does not seem to understand that. Maybe too much influence from Prof. Dawkins.

  • @andreselectrico

    @andreselectrico

    Ай бұрын

    I fully agree. I have seen several interviews in this podcast, and most of the time you can enjoy the exchange. The Interviewer is always respectful, gracious and interesting, even when disagreeing or asking challenging questions. Most interviewees feel comfortable and relax. But in this case, Prof. Krauss does not seem to understand that. Maybe too much influence of Prof. Dawkins.

  • @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins

    @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins

    Ай бұрын

    @@andreselectrico the permeability of supremacist ideology is at the core of the "Western" state of mind, academia being it's own breeding ground of this, as well as the critical counter culture to be fair

  • @TheShounak
    @TheShounak3 ай бұрын

    There is a bigger question to be addressed about growing anti-intellectualism across the world, not just in the West. The scientific community, by its aversion to public communication, has allowed the "intellectual" space to be hijacked by consultants and social scientists who make wild predictions and dilute the respect for the scientific method.

  • @lunaridge4510

    @lunaridge4510

    3 ай бұрын

    "Define the 'scientific method' and give a few examples when it was used in research or technology. Because there are none of the latter.

  • @TheShounak

    @TheShounak

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lunaridge4510 what do you mean there is no scientific method used in research or technology? You think God just birthed your mobile and the semiconductors in it?

  • @andreselectrico

    @andreselectrico

    Ай бұрын

    I accept that many people, including scientists, make wild predictions. But you seem to be making a distinction between intellectuals and social scientists that seems strange to me. Even consultants, and for that matter lay people, can be very intellectual. The scientific method has no monopoly over the truth. And, by the way, how do you define it? Because it seems to me that you have in mind something unrealistically restrictive, closest to scientism (in its modern, peforative meaning). I think you are exposing the sort of arrogance that has allowed anti-intellectualism to thrive in the first place. The first thing a real intellectual or scientist needs is humility.

  • @ResistEvolve
    @ResistEvolve2 ай бұрын

    Actually they call it Integrative Medicine when an Allopathic doctor practices other types of medicine than solely Allopathic!

  • @rudrendrakashyap-zg6do
    @rudrendrakashyap-zg6do3 ай бұрын

    Watching from Pittsburgh. Thanks Jyotish for bringing this video. ❤

  • @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins
    @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins3 ай бұрын

    "I'm concerned about many things.." (But Muslims aren't one of them)

  • @Bell_plejdo568p

    @Bell_plejdo568p

    2 ай бұрын

    Who said about many things

  • @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins

    @LeeeerrrroooyJennnnnkins

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Bell_plejdo568p did you not listen to the interview? Krauss said it after being asked about islamaphobia and Harris, iirc, dodged it then surrounded that answer with a variety of islamaphobic responses

  • @williams.1980
    @williams.19803 ай бұрын

    I appreciate the angle of the discussion. It might seem too amateurish to some but it is actually very important vital to ask honest practical common sense questions to those on the "cutting edge" of science, tech. IMO this discussion is really the tip of the iceberg of more important and vital conversations in this same spirit. It is okay to be critical of tech and of deep state research and development. The guest touched on the inherent fragility of the process when vested interests control it. This is why we should be critical. News flash, vested interests control it to a large degree. very large. very very very large. If you look at the landscape. the landscape of rigorous scientific study/research/experimentation/exploration etc. Let's look at this landscape. there will always be something amazing and novel to look at and say "look at what our investors and inventors did". There will always be this novel distraction. Look at wireless, look at gps, look at super computing, look at AI, look at the latest theory about the big bang or whatever. "Look at Neil Tyson riding on that cool spaceship through the eons of time. I'm gonna order a pizza and watch it again." There are many landscapes to look at. Other landscapes overlap with the "scientific/R&D" research of the vested interests. How about the war making and the economic war landscape? From the first couple lines of this discussion I was thinking about how often times 'scientists' 'experts' 'mainstream academics', people who want to sell best sellers, people who want to give a TED talk, even important religious/spiritual teachers who only consume mainstream/deep state media. Often times these impressive and knowledgeable people, when it comes to geopolitics, global economics, they have a super simplified and propagandized view except when it comes to their specialty. They can wax poetic about their field of expertise but when it comes to geopolitics and global economics, they have the open mindedness of your average pro wrestling fan. No offense to pro wrestling fans or "experts". It sounds like I am judging. And from the "experts" point of view, I am without a doubt judging. BTW I am generalizing and not talking about this guest by any stretch. I found it to be a good discussion, but this sentiment is what popped into my mind as the stream opened up. Kind of like in the super soupy media and social media digital signal universe of niches, genres and endless evolving market making opportunities. is the too easily siloed and compartmentalized and paddocked and divided markets of "expertise" "science" "research" market making "science" in other words. Here is an example of overlapping landscapes. AI and social media and consumer marketing and personal finance and the consumer diet and I can keep going. transportation, housing, community, energy, water, end of the world climate change, democracy. This is all democratic right? If it says it is on the promo then it must be right? Anywho.

  • @ebflegg
    @ebflegg3 ай бұрын

    Interesting speaker but he shows no awareness of how science is shaped by the society in which it is situated. He seems to think research takes place in a vaccuum and is driven purely by intellectual curiosity. This was particularly evident when he touched on medicine - few areas of research are more dominated by capitalist corporate interests and less responsive to human need!

  • @lunaridge4510

    @lunaridge4510

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly, he seems to have no knowledge or doesn't wish to admit that both science AND scientists are deeply imbedded into their social, material, and political milieu, that science is *produced by the society. And he is such a sarcastic arse too; pontificates and interrupts. There is no such thing as 'feminist science'? what a jerk. Little wonder theoretical physics has been at a standstill for over half a century, look at its practitioners!

  • @adlozi

    @adlozi

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lunaridge4510 not all science is fueled by the corporate world. A true scientist strives to find a solution to a problem or to invent something good and useful. Many scientists are very intelligent in their field and still, they have no clear understanding of the way the world is set up, and some maybe do know but don't care about the ethics. Practitioners - you mean physicians? - they are not scientists at all, to begin with. Krauss is right - science should not be divided into cultural or racial categories. Science is one and it should unite everybody, regardless of gender or race. The same in the art - my art teacher told me once that one famous female artist actually is in the category of 'female art', which sounded diminishing - like sub-category. In fact, there is no such thing as female art. Art, science, and any other field should be equally accessible and undivided into subcategories.

  • @lunaridge4510

    @lunaridge4510

    2 ай бұрын

    @@adlozi "Practitioner" of science---that is someone who practices science, a worker in his/her field, not a physician who practices medicine. I am not talking about "female art," whatever that means, I am taking about Feminist science, there *is, indeed, such a thing, there are even feminist theoretical physicists out there. OK, it is all very nice what you said here about "true science" and "true scientist," but it seems you are not really familiar with the topic, my friend, and just idealize the field (which corrupt and driven by corporate interests.) Do you, for example, know how the grands are given, who decides which lab or which thesis will be given a grant to continue their work? And why do you think it is the practitioners of science who "do not know how the world is set up"? Like which ones? Physicists? Philosophers? Why would they not know when they are knee-deep in the world that rules the scientific research? In any case, what I stated here is the long-accepted Leftist-Marxist view of the scientific enterprise and scientists not just in the capitalist society but throughout history.

  • @luisinharamos
    @luisinharamos3 ай бұрын

    Learning from Portugal 🕊

  • @iArsalan
    @iArsalan3 ай бұрын

    This guy needs to stay in his lane. His ignorance of Islam and religion is deep and bigotted

  • @DinoCism

    @DinoCism

    3 ай бұрын

    People like him have given atheists such a toxic, reactionary reputation. Also, him criticizing feminism while having numerous credible sexual harassment allegations against him is too rich.

  • @kennyprice5017

    @kennyprice5017

    2 ай бұрын

    Islam is medieval stupidity acknowledging that fact is just basic human decency

  • @Bell_plejdo568p

    @Bell_plejdo568p

    2 ай бұрын

    He’s a Zionist because a lot of the new atheists arw

  • @peterkerruish8136
    @peterkerruish81363 ай бұрын

    Laurence your mate's are struggling to understand you but I know what you are saying. Cheers M8.

  • @user-ty7bt4lx5d
    @user-ty7bt4lx5d3 ай бұрын

    wow, Incredible you can interview scientists and humanists with the ease you just displayed. Respect to Jyotishman.

  • @antiimperialist-li7oy
    @antiimperialist-li7oy3 ай бұрын

    Wow, economics, politics, and now science- you are killing it. Kudos IGL

  • @ebflegg
    @ebflegg3 ай бұрын

    Watching from France

  • @davidsantos392
    @davidsantos3922 ай бұрын

    Great content. A conversation that is not afraid of friction and disagreement. Maximum rating score for IGL.✊🏼

  • @ALavin-en1kr
    @ALavin-en1krАй бұрын

    Science deals with matter; the elemental world and it has a vague understanding of forces, how they operate, it has little understanding of mind, and no understanding of consciousness, so far, and may never be able to objectively understand it. Religion is not superstition. Its definition is ‘that to which we are bound.’ As humans we can do damage, and there have always been partial dissolutions; floods etc, of the human race. We are merely borrowing from Universal Intelligence, the Center will always hold and life and the human race will go on. Science is dual it has both good and bad outcomes, there cannot be one without the other. Most scientists are atheists, many do not give validity to religion, the interior side of life, but the interior side of life is valid, if for no other reason, that external life would not exist without it. Being against the interior side of life is stupid. We can agree that dogmatism is bad or forcing views on others is bad. But science is not salvation, far from it. Medieval religion kept the dark occult out of the mainstream before the Age of Reason. Religion is symbolic, it is not literal, or meant to be taken literally. The Virgin birth is about the origin of the Universe symbolized to make it understandable. Transubstantiation is real when the quantum is better understood it too will be understood. Science is surface and superficial, dealing with elemental matter. religion is the reality below the surface. We need to understand that reality and we won’t be able to understand it through the surface explorations of science. We need both religion and science, neither should be devalued.

  • @tomt55
    @tomt553 ай бұрын

    It's interesting that Krauss has not recognized that we are currently in free fall collapse, from which there is likely no return. And this is all due to overshoot, of which climate change is simply a symptom of ecological overshoot.

  • @promark5317
    @promark53173 ай бұрын

    The new atheists sure do love the Jewish state.

  • @Bell_plejdo568p

    @Bell_plejdo568p

    2 ай бұрын

    Yea that were there mainly islamphoibv bevquse there Zionist

  • @lowelovibes8035
    @lowelovibes8035Ай бұрын

    This guy is super defensive and annoying, he's also not sincere.

  • @bellhula1535
    @bellhula1535Ай бұрын

    Lawrence krauss should compete with norman Finkelstein. So that his biased and nonsensical views can be dismantled.