Well she didn't say she doesn't get ANY royalties. She said "it's not gonna pay my rent", meaning the amount she gets is small. It's a shame how grossly underpaid these girls were.

@alextroy9202

Жыл бұрын

I don’t like how she didn’t answer the question

@kiddchris9579

Жыл бұрын

​@@alextroy9202 she could get in trouble if she says the wrong thing. A lot of contracts come with agreements on what you can and can't talk about after leaving and even while being signed

@julialovato1254

Жыл бұрын

Interesting question is how much does her rent cost? I'm sure that she's not living in some cheap apertment

@SG-et6mi

Жыл бұрын

@@julialovato1254 That’s what I was thinking too. She probably means it’s not enough money to cover her more expensive lifestyle but who knows.

@j.c7719

Жыл бұрын

You won’t get royalties unless you write or produce a song yourself, if you want to get paid, write a song.

Whaaaat? I always thought they would be eating good off those royalties! That’s so messed up

@oni6903

Жыл бұрын

Well the songs are older now. No one’s making money from those songs to pay rent anymore lol

@corentinnicolas9857

Жыл бұрын

@@oni6903 No it keeps airing all the time in European bars, especially French but I think they are not lyricist, that's why they are not paid

@peace-jg7cg

Жыл бұрын

In like 2014 they said they were all broke because they never got paid for their songs and they all had to ride public transportation. So yeah their label sucks:/

@gasp1gasp1

Жыл бұрын

The writers of the songs get the most money so it is not their songs

@thatstupidthing7154

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if they did not produce or write the songs, it’s not theirs. They just recorded it.

And i still listen to them on repeat

@Tre1996

Жыл бұрын

$ I forever will

I love how transparent she was. That’s the music industry. They are not lying when they say “it’s not all Glitz & Glam.” It’s about MONEY! And not your money, OTHER people’s money. That’s why you see singers take a back seat and start writing because that’s where the money is.

@malovina

Жыл бұрын

Other people’s money because they invest the money to promote the singer, get venues, for for radio rotation etc

@MusicLover-ti6dt

Жыл бұрын

@@malovina yes but who is touring 2 years straight with no break? The artist. People only see a small part and that’s the videos and awards shows. Most of these artist are performing across the world almost 365 days out of the year. Artist deserve more but labels are greedy and calculated. You have to be careful!

@DizzieDaCrazzie88

10 ай бұрын

i low how your comment is so generic and dumb 🙄

@MrKouaVang

10 ай бұрын

That’s why Taylor swift is changing the game! She writes all her music and is now changing the game

@MusicLover-ti6dt

10 ай бұрын

@@MrKouaVang agreed. Nicki as well. There seems to be a genuine respect among them. Women who write get paid.

That 7/27 era summer… I’ll never forget it! This makes me sad however to know Lauren never wanted to be in 5H, not even before 5H had formed… I hope there was at least one moment while being in 5H that brought her as much happiness that the group had brought me as a fan.

@Onmymind1

Жыл бұрын

Yes 🥺🫤

@caballerohidalgosantiago3604

Жыл бұрын

They went through a lot and all the management shit and record label were fucking shit. They mistreated her a lot. But I'm sure she got a lot of good moments and happiness within the relationship with the girls. And they were like sisters privately. They do love each other but the shit they had to go through is the saddest

@kevindeleon4762

Жыл бұрын

I will never forget that summer too. I think about it almost every single day.

@zaydeevnrssnbrg3914

Жыл бұрын

I recommend you read the book by Ally brooke ex member of the group!

@danielfuxcx

Жыл бұрын

I could say it was one of my happiest summers of my life.

i don't think that is what she said... she didn't say "no" royalties she was just saying it's a low amount

im happy she's shedding light about this and I hope more musicians do this more for educational purposes. songwriters and producers definitely deserve more for their work !

@tiffanyp5781

Жыл бұрын

She does get royalties-she never said she didn’t get royalties. She said “not enough to pay my rent”.

After seeing this I am happy that dinah has decided to start her own label. All the girls in the group are talented and its sad to see how much they were used in the industry as puppets.

@SupernaturalLove100

Жыл бұрын

oh wow she started one?! who knew! that's great, i'm glad she aint givin up on music she's always been a talented vocalist and performer. couldnt she join lauren's label? that'd b full circle lol

@malama29

Жыл бұрын

@@SupernaturalLove100 yes she recently announced she's started a label i think with a few others. She will be working behind the scenes in the industry but also will be releasing a few new projects including music very soon

@blairturner139

Жыл бұрын

If she cant push her own music how she gonna help push someone else's

@LouiseHultcrantz

Жыл бұрын

I don't follow them anymore but I thought about Dinah literally just yesterday and wonder where she was now, that's cool though

@malama29

Жыл бұрын

@@LouiseHultcrantz yeah she actually went on a music break for ages but is now planning on working behind the scenes and also doing her own projects.

Lauren has always kept it real regarding subjects like these. Enjoyed hearing her perspective about her time on X-Factor.🙂👍🎉

This is why it’s important to learn to be a songwriter, learn how to produce, compose and arrange. That way you are guaranteed more money and the less people it has to get divided between. If you are just a recording artist and don’t write a single thing of your own, don’t produce anything of your own the people who do all the work for you are gonna get the larger amounts. Look at Mariah Carey for example, she makes millions off of “all I want for Christmas is you” she wrote it from top to bottom. So she’s getting a large amount of the royalties.

@blackspiderman4766

Жыл бұрын

Song writers don't get paid shit either the labels take most of the money

@MarcosAntonio-mo6qj

10 ай бұрын

None of them had a chance to write any music in this group. They went into the studio just to sing what the producers wanted and that was it.

@REALCrazyCritic

9 ай бұрын

@@blackspiderman4766😂 wtf 😂 songwriting makes a very good chunk of royalty money 💰

@REALCrazyCritic

9 ай бұрын

@@MarcosAntonio-mo6qjthey did on their last album. End of the day, they weren’t penning material good enough for the label to finance the production of ... why would the label want to risk losing money??

@beepbopboop7727

9 ай бұрын

They sign songwriters these days which means they can own all their work for a set amount.

click bait. they do get money from it, but lauren said "not enough to pay my rent", she did not say they get nothing

@jessicajames7522

Жыл бұрын

In that case either she's living in a place that's super expensive or she gets chicken change

@thaiscarvalhal

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicajames7522 or both

@TakeMeToParadize

Жыл бұрын

I would imagine to us it's a decent amount

@ThuggyMacho

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually sad tho

@lane4539

Жыл бұрын

They get like 0.003 cents per stream

And I remembered the girls expressing that they wanted to write or help produce songs but their label didn't allow it. Not until their very last album when it was 4 of them, but then the label said fine then we won't promote anything. Seriously the label was evil, used these young girls then threw them out when they couldn't control them anymore 😔❤️❤️

@REALCrazyCritic

9 ай бұрын

Have you considered that the material that they wrote was not up to the standard that the label required??

@ilikealotofthings731

9 ай бұрын

​@@REALCrazyCriticHere's the thing. You could release a shitty ass song and it will still be popular with enough marketing. The label just didn't want them to own their own songs because they want to trap them. It's literally that simple.

I love how aware she is. Holding on to the group thing I bet will turn you bitter and stuck! You goooo girl!!!

This is why Camila took the opportunity to go solo. Groups never make any money. Its happened time and time again. Even TLC spoke out back in the day to how they were flat broke while being the biggest girl group in music.

@LB-zn3ku

Жыл бұрын

This is not about rac-istmila, is about Lauren, so get out…

@Gabriela.H

Жыл бұрын

@@LB-zn3ku oh my goodness, stop lol. Im talking about the GROUP. Lets be honest Camila held Fifth Harmony together. After she left, they fell apart.

@aubreydrake9335

Жыл бұрын

@@Gabriela.H that's because she was pushed as the lead and given more parts on songs. regardless she is allowed to go solo but the way she went about it was not respectable or how you treat people you "care" about.

@TheMaraudersSnake

Жыл бұрын

Little mix, one direction became millionaires from being in their group. It's not about being in a group, it's about the predatory behavior from record contracts and companies.

@Gabriela.H

Жыл бұрын

@@aubreydrake9335 omg 🤦🏻‍♀️ no one is talking about her as a person. I was simply talking about career opportunities from members of the group. She was the first to leave and then Normani ventured out and was successful as well. Why are ya’ll people so sensitive and need to find the negative in everything?

It’s just crazy how big Camila became. Normani too but still needs an album. Rooting for all Lauren, Dinah and Ally. But the business side of it ain’t easy. Camila had the advantage to release before COVID.

People need to understand music itself does not make you money . touring , festivals, brand deals does !!

@rachelmartin5187

9 ай бұрын

Don't forget writing! Mariah Carey makes over a million dollars a year off of "All I want for Christmas is You."

It happens to any artist who doesn’t write / produce their own songs. This type of singers make most of their money off of album sales, endorsement deals, performances, etc., but royalties on public performances (radio/tv/bars, etc) are paid mostly to those who write/produce the songs. That’s why most of the richest artists in the biz are those who are singer-songwriters or singer-producers. Adele, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, and of course the most notable ones, Mariah Carey and Dolly Parton are well known to be writing most if not all of their materials. That’s why Dolly can sit nicely in her comfortable home collecting cheques while Whitney was doing her rounds singing I Will Always Love You. Whitney sold out tours, Dolly got the royalties. It’s a win win when the singer can still sell out her tours.. Mariah Carey owns copyright shares to the thousands of versions of All I Want For Christmas Is You, and if you hear anybody sing it, Mariah gets the coins from it. Hope this makes sense.❤

@REALCrazyCritic

9 ай бұрын

Some people in these comments just have a hard time digesting the truth, personally, I’ve given up explaining it 😂 you do a good job here though 👍

It means they were underpaid compared to how much successful they were, this is not just fifth harmony but for a lot of groups sadly :(

@MrBibi86

Жыл бұрын

they make they because everything gets split 4 or 5 ways

@hhhgghhhgg9221

Жыл бұрын

underpaid? or untalented? they don’t write or produce any of their songs they just come in the studio to record it, the producers and writers rightfully should be getting the majority amount of money cuz writing and producing takes alot more effort than recording ur voice on a song thats already been 100% made and even then the pay is divided between 5 members

@acelesbianmrclean

Жыл бұрын

@@hhhgghhhgg9221 they didn't write anything because their contract did not allow them, this is a well known fact in the fifth harmony-verse or whatever, they had to negotiate creative control for their final album and they had to fight tooth and nail to write one song. These girls got a terrible contract and they've been very vocal about being "worked like slaves" even while they were in the group. Educate yourself before you speak.

@REALCrazyCritic

9 ай бұрын

@@acelesbianmrcleanthey wrote on their last album, other people have said this in other comments already. Regardless, they clearly were not writing hits worthy of the label getting producers in to work with and build up etc, then have them engineered, mix, mastered, released... the quality of the songwriting counts and the group were an investment to the label, if they weren’t penning amazing material, why would you expect the label to want to use the material???

@REALCrazyCritic

9 ай бұрын

@@hhhgghhhgg9221your comment is accurate, no idea how the person below has the nerve to tell you to educate yourself when you did not say anything inaccurate.

aw i still listen to their albums

I MISS FIFTH HARMONY!!! I hope one day they’ll learn to love each other make music they can own!!!

This is why artists like Mariah Carey said before you'll enjoy it more when you write and sing your songs.

Atp none of the members are making anything substantial from 5H. Every time a song is streamed, 0.003 is made. Some how that's split between writers, producers, THEN the 5 group members. And as of now, no one is really streaming 5H so the girls are probably seeing about $500-1000 dollars A YEAR from those songs. Sad.

Unfortunately all business work like this both inside and outside of the music industry. The goal is to learn the inside tricks from these people to eventually set up on your own and be your own boss to have full control over your income. Good for Lauren for speaking out.

Im glad she understands and has a really sound mind! The girls of 5th harmony got paid to do the job at the time - which they did amazingly, but they didn’t create the songs or have the vision. The creators & songwriters & producers are getting the most royalties for those mega hits, and tbh that makes sense.

Mariah Carey's All i want for Christmas is You, reaches #1 almost every year around Christmastime. However Mariah said Spotify is cheap. She only gets about $5-10k every year (i could be wrong). Imagive having to split the royalties among 4-5 people.

from what i understand FH songs were pitched by other songwriters who get the publishing royalties. And no disrepect but i think everyone has to be honest with their strengths, the songwriters made catchy songs which was necessary at that time for sales. Lauren is right, there are faceless people we don't see who spend their life trying to write a rare hit song bts. FH will financially always do well in concerts, events if they can reconcile, but its understandable this is their individual time to explore self identity.

They work so hard it is so sad for the girls 😢❤❤

@nobodyeverybody2345

Жыл бұрын

its not sad cuz they didn't do it for money they did it for their dreams

@JayTernOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@nobodyeverybody2345 yeah

I hope they can come back as a group and release some songs on you album get the fans excited

I be so sad for them but I’m glad theat she made the best decision to be independent even if she don’t have the best budgets or pro

she is the love of my life

the mistreatment the whole group went through was so insane

I knew it, that's dark side from dat industry 😢

Lauren I'm sorry, ily, but I also love 5h albums and I don't want to stop listening to them. Good thing lot of my fav songs are unreleased so no money for the company

@p.e.d6541

Жыл бұрын

you don't have to stop listening to them. they still get money from the songs, just barely any.

Sad world we live in with so much greed. When artist put themselves at risk to represent an art, they should be paid graciously for it.

I understand that audio that went viral on tumblr a couple of years ago

@SupernaturalLove100

Жыл бұрын

what audio

@2222el

4 ай бұрын

@@SupernaturalLove100lauren and ally (mainly lauren, ally was just calming her down) was talking about how their label was exploiting them. there’s a vid on here somewhere

Those albums were goooood , they were up to something HUGE , but someone decide to leave first😬

They were all teenagers when they signed the contract. A very lousy contract

How awful that Simon created this big girl group with song writers etc.. but didn’t get no royalties from the songs?? When they performed them live and in concert.. like it’s mind boggling to know that Simon didn’t care about them.. just for the money. Smh!

I knew this day would come! Bc her, along with few of the other girls, kept mentioning to read your contracts

She’s always very open

This is why y’all need to read them contracts there’s no reason that their parents didn’t advocate or even get lawyers/ professionals to look over documents. I loved fifth harmony but it’s sad that these ppl aren’t noticing they are being used until they have no money in their pockets. I think they should speak more about this and maybe this will help other up and coming stars cause it seems like being independent and making a name for urself is the way to go these days.

U know it was during their second album i always noticed that lauren didnt care anymore bout being in 5th harmony now i know why and im not mad at it

You can tell she’s a humble person and not money hungry, she’s content it can pay her rent and put food on her table

These girls were so good together!! Why can’t a girl group just stay together!! 😢

@SanaasimonB-tu9qm

8 ай бұрын

Jealousy

Wow barely any royalties !? Smh

@tjsquibbofficial

Жыл бұрын

Tbf, most people only really get royalties if they write the songs. I'm pretty sure the girls only got writing credits on their last album, so it makes sense that they don't make much.

@tavancub

Жыл бұрын

@@tjsquibbofficial Their label never let them write. Ally had to fight for them to write in the last album

Title is clickbait. She didn't say "no" royalties she just said it wouldn't pay her rent. She's not getting much but she is getting something

Kinda messed up but this is how it is in the music industry...usually songwriters, collaborators etc, and producers take some of the royalties 😔 but since they werent allowed to any input whatsoever, they only take home a small chunk of it.

Not her saying “She was praying against it” Lauren don’t scare me like that because I prayed to and just can’t see myself in a group. 😂

she MUST play Amy Whinehouse

Most artists are just performers. Writers, producers and publishers and labels/companies make the money. That's how the business works.

@JAZZYLGPRODUCTIONSLLC

Жыл бұрын

@Bigheartoneggshells I never made it to that level in music, but if I ever do, I own all the rights!

@mev9752

Жыл бұрын

That’s why BTS members specially the rappers make a lot of money just with royalties lol. The one with the most can feed like 5 generations lol.

If I have a million bucks, I wanted to own a freakin catalogue of Fifth Harmony songs

Everyone in the comments like "maybe if she wrote the songs blah blah blah" is forgetting that these girls literally had to fight tooth and nail to be able to write songs on their final album. They weren't allowed to write. I feel like if they're not going to let you write the songs, they might as well pay you a bit more since you can't control the fact that they said no

Lauren a real one tbh

I havent heard a 5th harmony song in like a decade anyway. How do they get royalties if they arent out there active keeping themselves relavent?

Yeah I’m not shocked at all…

Guys she still has a lot of money, but from her music

Hi PH Showtime, this is what it means mwah

She Looks Good In Black Leather!

People are actually shocked😂😂 that’s the elites for you that’s hollyweird for you

When she said it won’t pay my rent I assume it’s enough to pay my rent lol

They didn’t write any songs, they probably had a 360 deal which is terrible, and based off of what Little Mix has said Simon cares about no one but Simon which is why they left. But after looking back, they were never cohesive. It felt like they never had a group mentality. And other times it seemed like they couldn’t stand each other.😂 I’ve seen other groups be put together and it seems like they had great chemistry but not 5H. They had bops and the 4 of them seem like sweet girls.

^Like most girl groups there’s usually one star that producers/industry people want to help blow up their career. In 5H that obviously was Camille! What this girl should have done while in 5H was at its fame was start diversifying into acting maybe.

Whaaat? I thought those songs gave them some money, Sad :(

@nahi759

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@allynfollette

Жыл бұрын

They do, but a minimal amount

I know that artists get screwed and labels are greedy, but it's not like they were Spice Girls/Destiny's Child level famous. For their level of success, I don't think you can justify paying them more than like $500k each for their time in the group for their music specifically.

All the comments in here don’t know how money works in the industry and it’s showing😂💀 y’all naive af.

Sad! They worked so hard

@SanaasimonB-tu9qm

8 ай бұрын

Are you really sur of that ? Its like Melody in pcd maybe

I just realised how much she looks like Amy Winehouse.

I think a lot of people coming on here to continue saying “she signed a contract” or “she didn’t write on the songs” are really missing the point (side note: many songwriters arent getting paid like that either. Several singers these days who write their own songs aren’t getting paid that much either). She and the other girls were teenagers when they signed their contracts. Guaranteed most artists who enter the business at a young age don’t know shit and their parents who aren’t savvy don’t know shit either. Usually those contracts are multi album deals. Anyone who knows the artist JoJo (known for “Get Out” and “Too Little Too Late”) knows about that 7 album deal she was roped into by her former label and how she couldn’t even get her masters after suing so she had to re-record all of the songs that were officially released. Some artists are NOT permitted to write on their own albums and often have their music rejected by their labels. They’re also open about it if you go looking. But some of you really need to think about what you’re saying when you say that people who sing and perform these songs that you might like shouldn’t be paid more.

Music industry is hard! You make money from shows not streams etc. All this social media “numbers” sht means nothing in the long run. Get a good talent lawyer and secure that deal with a strong bag.

When u dealing with five member vs one solo singer it’s like a whole different game park and at first they get this big lump sum and then get Pennies out of the end

I thought I heard them say before on some songs sometimes they can’t sing on it like Lauren wasn’t able to sing on worth it. And Dinah couldn’t sing on sledgehammer I believe

This is so complex and I don't know the full story because if they didn't write the songs, they shouldn't really be entitled to any of the publishing. Sometimes they will be given a percentage as their name is on it, despite them doing no publishingv work. The songwriters and producers get publishing for the art they made. Artists can make money from shows, merch, brand deals and performance rights from the tracks which is them singing the songs on the record. Buuut I guess I didn't think about the idea that once the group splits what happens when you can't perform, probably don't sell any merch anymore and no more deals!? So complex, but all we know is that songwriters especially and it seems like some artists (that only sing), don't get paid enough for their work. Why is the music industry still like this.

*I'm not shocked. girl/boy bands and groups always make less because everything gets split 4 or 5 ways*

WFH is on repeat for me still. they will get those 13¢ from me!

The fact that none of these popstars haven't ordered a hit on Simon Cowell is craaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Well whoever is making money off of there hits is eating good off of me. Because I listen to there music on repeat 👀

She didn't wrote any of them tbh, at least the hits they're talking about, the girls are only credited on their last album, and none of thosesong are hits. It's ok tho, that's what it's like for those types of groups, they're a product design to make someone else money, and they know that in advance because it's on the contract, and when you're name it's not on that songwriter credit list, you're not getting any money.

Now that Ally recently showed up and said they now have full rights over the brand following a dispute and that Simon helped them win, maybe now they'll get more royalties out of their songs now?

That’s what usually happens when you start off from a reality competition show. The contracts you make in the beginning when you’re still new. It’s typical.

All the singing members of 5H deserve residual incomes for singing on the first two records and got no royalties for it?!!!! Makes no sense at all.

Of course she's not gonna get royalty pay. She wasn't a song writer or composer of 5H hit songs. Her deal was 360 contract meaning she'll get paid when she perform but not when people buying 5H music. Unless she's involve in producing the song, she will not get paid for royalty. And even if she involved, if the song wasn't a big hit, she will not get paid much anyway and as far as I know the most hit one that she involved was Flex which is not their most hit one so.

She said herself that they didn't do it to make fortune, it was their dreams so it isn't wrong.

@jacquelinegabriela

Жыл бұрын

mmm it kinda is bc they didn't really get the freedom they wanted so it's not really beneficial

@nobodyeverybody2345

Жыл бұрын

@@jacquelinegabriela yea ik they didnt get total freedom in it

@jacquelinegabriela

Жыл бұрын

@Daphne Krisp no one is losing sleep over them bffr

Wait what!!!???? I need to stop playing fifth harmony 😭😭😭 those ppl don’t deserve my streams if the girls aren’t getting any royalties

Wow….

Fifht harmony love them not surprise because the didn't write alot of songs in there albums you write song's you get the pay.

Y’all really don’t know ish about music, there’s a reason why she wasn’t so upset about not getting royalties. Fifth harmony probably wrote like 10% of their music and produced none of the songs almost all the songs on the albums were demos from already famous artists which is another cost for the label. That’s why it’s so important that artists do write their own music and know how to play instruments and engineer their own sounds, they did none of that. Not the mention they don’t get paid for performing the songs 🥴 the songwriter and behind the scenes people did bc of the groups lack of involvement in the whole music making process, Rihanna is another artist who wrote almost none of her own original music or produced. that’s why she started a makeup and clothing empire because she made little money on her albums.

Clickbait heading? Or just false

Ik wearing that outfit had to be rough. Leather on leather

i mean if she didnt write the songs why would she get royalties.

@jolina298

Жыл бұрын

Bc they performed and it’s their voices and talent, you have to sing too not only write songs.

@theailym

Жыл бұрын

@@jolina298 not how copyright works. im glad songwriters get their share of what they deserve. trust me she has enough money XD. theres artist like justin bieber that take writing when they didnt produce or do anything on the track. horrible practice .

@RemyEdits

Жыл бұрын

@@jolina298 Like she said she gets some royalties for being the singer. But it’s not a lot. The real work and income comes from being a song writer / composer. If you want most or ALL of the money for a song. You have to have a part in its entire production. The singing part is like the kid in a school project that did none of the work & just the presentation.

@SupernaturalLove100

Жыл бұрын

@@RemyEdits singing is work, it's a craft and a talent that not everyone has. you're undermining it when the voice is an instrument..and that's funny lol

@RemyEdits

Жыл бұрын

@@SupernaturalLove100 Cute sentiment but we're talking business/money. Singers do not earn as much as the people who actually created the songs.

The writing is the money.

They were divided from the start so no surprise they eventually fell apart. I think they all didn't want to work together or tried to be a group in all the videos I've seen.

Wowww smh

Imagine working from home and get no money for it

Should they make Fifth harmony version now 😂

Why is everyone SHOCKED? She probably barely had a hand in the creative process and most likely just recorded her part. Anyone who expects it to be divided just between the girls doesn't know the business, because their are at least a dozen others attatched.

The average artist is just an avatar that gets fame. The owners, producers and writers get the big checks.

@MrBibi86

Жыл бұрын

which they should. especially the writers

Is she still making new music? What is she up to these days?

She should play Amy Winehouse

5 singers . So no money

0:45 “What was it for you while you were in it…” He’s like girl, they screwed you over. You could’ve made millions, and you’re cool with it?…