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I LOVE your re-conference alignment!!! It keeps value on conference games because you have to win the conference to make the playoffs! And the playoff people still get their playoff!!! You truly need to be the college football commissioner/dictator!!!

People complaining over Saban saying the quiet part out loud and what every other college coach is thinking in 2024. The sport has changed rapidly with little to no guardrails and no program is unaffected.

"Everywhere All at Once," needs to be the name of your tour this upcoming season.

Josh leaving out where Saban said his players did not lose with class is classic Bama homer Pate 😂

I'm old enough to remember the PAC 8

@senpaiofsavage3072

5 ай бұрын

I'm with you in this regard too.

@haroldmiller8493

5 ай бұрын

Then you are in AARPs target demographic.

Let Penn state have their independence back and put Northwestern back in the B1G

@natewatson6962

5 ай бұрын

Then they can play pitt every year… and wvu? Is psu wvu a thing?

@ramspencer5492

5 ай бұрын

Nope

@SurferMan127

5 ай бұрын

@@natewatson6962 They’re in the same damn state as another power team. Maybe Penn State should play Pitt every year. Maybe there’s some gold to be found in making that a rivalry.

@LilBoiPeep69

5 ай бұрын

@@SurferMan127if youre under 40 penn st feels right to be in the big 10, but similar to vandy, north western deserves to be in the big boy league,

@jonbutton3259

5 ай бұрын

​@@natewatson6962 - this year. 🤞🏻 I'm hoping that those that be will start scheduling these old rivalries again.

Proudly listening since 2021. Just started hearing about “the lady” the past several episodes. I’m intrigued!

Josh in all seriousness, you need to get your realignment idea(s) to someone can can proposal it. GREAT PRESENTATION, SERIOUSLY!!!!

Bring Tulane back to the SEC

JP really ought to put Dabo in front of a mic. Not sure Dabo would agree to it but being that JP feels football needs some improvements made to it (and i agree 💯), Dabo is the only coach i know of that has recruited guys that are NOT jumping ship on him. Why? Because he still recruiting the same way he always has and has gone after the type of young men he wants on his team. He is doing it the right way imho. The beauty of college football is that you can easily LOvE your team every year even if they win 3 games a season. Why? Because historically they have always been young men and women (obviously not in football)"not" getting paid which just hits differently than an NFL team loaded with millionaires with hit or miss attitudes kneeling during the anthem- and yeah, i know that kneeling has since passed. Tbh i need to see the pros cry after big playoff losses. When i see that, i know who still cares and who doesn't. College? Everybody is crying and oddly enough its a beautiful example of team love

@lukephillips770

5 ай бұрын

Yeah and they are not winning 🏆

Great show guys.

Go Dawgs! Sic Em!

You nailed the conference re-alignment perfectly! Man I’d pay so much to have this come to fruition. There’s really nothing better than the regionality & rivalries in college football.

The proposed conferences are beautiful, regionally was so integral to CFB. Listening on a drive back from Eugene after watching college b ball

Brilliantly crafted! If only this could be a reality. Love everything about this. But fantasy given current climate and conference greed! Go Vols!

Best show in awhile JP. Your cfb realignment should happen *today*. Genius. I theorize that the current 'situation' on cfb is a direct result of a sever lack of coherent and competent leadership by the NCAA. Conferences are taking the bull by the horns themselves. The 10-or-trash segment was excellent, too. I've been a Penn State fan my entire life, and I'm always getting into this exact fight about James Franklin. He doesn't need defending. For those who can read between the lines, he's doing a stellar job with what was clearly an unaligned mess at the university level when he was hired. Some of those situations are still being sorted out. There's always a few doomers who pop off without perspective, and it's embarrassing. The PSU football media is only marginally better. Thanks for taking a principled stand on this subject. 😄😄

Maybe the two super conferences can watch this and try to put some regionality in their new models. Miss that.

“Bringing back some brands.” I though you meant the Pontiac Game Changing Play.

@calebwilliams3253

4 ай бұрын

Remember the Pontiac game changing moments mode on the NCAA Football game

Josh what do you think about Miami do you think their on the up, or is it just hype I'm a canes fan and have PTSD i don't know what to expect from them year from year..

Louisville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia back together? I’m beyond happy

@WRWPitt

4 ай бұрын

As a Pitt fan yes. Pitt plays WVU and Cincinnati this year too.

Love the new conferences!! No more conference championships - everyone plays everyone. Would make it so much easier to determine the playoff field...Pate for Commish!!

The conferences realignment that you have put together is EXACTLY how college football should be. Beautifully done sir. Thank you!

We need a map of these proposed conference realignments

Josh I agree with you on 7 conferences, I would just shift around the teams a little bit. If the conferences would negotiate as 7 conferences, they would get more money than the will as just the power 2. Pretending that everyone would get paid the same, allows for teams to move from conference to conference. ACC - Duke North Carolina Wake Forest North Carolina State Clemson Virginia Maryland Georgia Tech South Carolina Florida State South Carolina was in the ACC and has rivalries with the Carolina schools as well as the big in state battle with Clemson. The question has to be asked who is South Carolina's main SEC rival? Is there anyone Gamecock fans would rather beat than Clemson or North Carolina? Virginia, Georgia Tech, and Florida State could all play their rivals to end the year. Big East Miami Boston College Virginia Tech Pitt Syracuse West Virginia Cincinnati UCF Rutgers UConn The Big East is the most complicated conference. You would start with how they left, the Hurricanes, Eagles, and Hokies left first. Syracuse, Pitt, and West Virginia were out about a decade later. Cincinnati stayed until it become the American. UCF became good enough to join. Rutgers has had success in the Big East (Not much, but some) and UConn is in because of their basketball program. Basketball would be a problem, but you could work around it. Kick out DePaul and the other new members and go to a 16 team league in basketball. Big 10 Ohio State Michigan Michigan State Penn State Indiana Purdue Northwestern Illinois Wisconsin Minnesota Yes Iowa is gone. The Hawkeyes will join their in state brethren and their biggest rival in Nebraska in a new conference. If they make the same money, the Hawkeyes would probably be okay with that, the academic prestige is better in the Big Ten, so that might make them stay. If Iowa stays in the Big Ten, then Penn State moves to the Big East and Rutgers gets dropped from the Big East. Border Conference (Yes that is the new name) Oklahoma Oklahoma State Nebraska Iowa Iowa State Kansas Kansas State Missouri Colorado BYU The Big 6 was originally something called the Border Conference, it moved around some teams here and there, but it will go back to its original name to keep the conference at 10 teams and avoid numerical confusion. Iowa has a choice to make. Are their main rivals Nebraska and Iowa State or are there Wisconsin and Minnesota? I've met a number of Hawkeye fans that would rather be Nebraska than beat them (Winning multiple conference and National Titles) but Iowa State means more than either Big Ten rivalry does. Oklahoma does not fit the Southwest Conference as they were in it for 1 year and left. That year being around the time of World War 1. BYU playing Colorado to finish the year and Nebraska playing Oklahoma is how the conference should do rivalry week on Thanksgiving day. Pac 10 USC UCLA Stanford Arizona Arizona State Oregon Washington Utah San Diego State UNLV Major changes to the Pac 10. Cal hasn't sold out Memorial Stadium since 2012 (Against Alabama State 90% of the stadium was full) the last time they had a full sellout was against Ohio State. The Bears have won 2 bowl games in the last 15 years and qualified for 6 total. Outside of a Jeff Tedford run where the rest of the Pac 10 forgot to play football, Cal has historically struggled. Name any Cal alumni in the NFL outside of Rogers and Golf. They also never qualified for the Pac 12 Title Game. Oregon State never qualified for the Pac 12 Title Game. They have also been outgrown by Oregon. It used to be the Civil War where two programs of equal talent levels battled it out. Now it has become a game where if Oregon State wins it is clearly an upset. Same thing with Washington State and Washington. Seattle outgrew Pullman and the rest of the state favors the Huskies. The Pacific Northwest does not produce enough talent for their to be 4 teams in the Power level. Yes this year all 4 of them were ranked, but this was the exception not the rule. Utah stays because they have become a mainstay in the Pac-12 race. San Diego State just built themselves a new football stadium and made a National Title game in basketball. UNLV was just gifted the Death Star and basketball Team USA plays their basketball training in Vegas, if they can ever put it together they have a chance to be special. If you keep the Pac-10 as it was, USC will look to leave again. The Trojans destroyed the original PCC (Kicking out Montana and Idaho) then they whined again and got the Arizona schools to join. The conference needs new challenges. For those of you wondering why Stanford over Cal its this simple. When Stanford is great in basketball they compete with UCLA, when they are great in football they compete with USC, when they are bad at either one, they compete with Cal. Southwest Conference Texas Texas A&M Texas Tech Houston Baylor TCU SMU Arkansas LSU Tulane Just like with South Carolina, who is LSU"s primary rival in the SEC? Its not Auburn or Alabama they both would rather play each other. Arkansas and Texas A&M are their end of the season games. Tulane gets in for their academics as the Northwestern/Stanford/Vanderbilt of the conference. The SWC used to be the 4 public and the 4 private schools. Rice is dropped because food doesn't deserve to be at the Power 7 table. Adding LSU gives Arkansas a natural rival out of conference, Oklahoma is not Arkansas' rival. Tulane gets included, but if LSU refuses, I'd be okay with adding Rice or even considering New Mexico to add another team from out of state. SEC Florida Georgia Tennessee Vanderbilt Auburn Alabama Ole Miss Mississippi State Kentucky Louisville If you really want to put LSU in over Louisville, moving the Cardinals to the Big East, kicking out UConn I'm okay with that. I just feel like Louisville fits into the SEC mold. Vandy and Tennessee together. Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Alabama and Auburn. Florida and Georgia have their big out of conference rivalries. This is what I'd do if I was in charge. Luckily I'm not, but I'd vote for Josh to be commissioner of football.

@jvjustvibes9103

5 ай бұрын

Kicking out large markets like DePaul and Marquette would probably end up leading to the big East imploding from a TV stand point. Fox isn’t paying all that money to them without those markets

@1185AspAve

5 ай бұрын

Oklahoma was in the SWC 5 years and won 2 SWC titles.

@Jon.A.Scholt

5 ай бұрын

I know Marshawn Lynch is retired but he went to Cal. Is Desean Jackson still playing? You're selling Cal way short.

Saturdays and tradition. Good competition.

PREACH BROTHER JOSH!

Josh, was there another time in which every starting player on a team could get drafted to the NFL? Saban’s roster stacking seems like an anomaly. I believe the free market of NIL will rebalance college athletics in a way similar to when being the best on any team created a better chance of making it to the NFL than being a role player on the best team. Forgive me for the incomplete thought. It’s a small comment window and I write this in hope that if you agree, you might be able to expand on the idea.

Zona's an hour 50 from the beach we're counting it 🍻

I never thought I would say this, but this episode makes me long for Brandon Walker.

As an Iowa fan, I was highly disappointed that Iowa didn't even take a glance at Cam Ward when he was transferring from Incarnate Word.

On day one I saw what I expected from Arkansas. Sam Pittman spending time coaching (instead of just observing) the OL. I have never been a Bobby Petrino fan, but I am fine with Coach Pitt being the highest paid OL coach in college football.

Where in the Alabama Mayonnaise Sandwich is ARMY and NAVY???

Oklahoma should be in the big eight nebraska and osu rivalries were huge and texas could be played out of conference.

I’m too young to have been watching the SWC, but it would be fun as long as there’s no corruption

@terrihammond5951

5 ай бұрын

SWC was great...then it wasn't. 😢

The late kick logo used to be awesome too

Who was the ankle weight for A&M prior to Jimbo? What program success was Jimbo not able to sustain?

Bama and UGA both have bye weeks before they play. That game isn't the week after Wisconsin.

I know TxSt is a small school but they are my school 😂 and I thunk the story of how we went from TJ Finley to De Laura to McCloud in 1 "offseason" is crazy

Change is always difficult and painful. As well as uncomfortable. Not knowing what the future holds.

What would you think about the power conferences having affiliate G5 conferences and the champ of the G5 plays the worst team in the power 5 at the end of the year for a place in the Power conference. So say the MAC and the Big10 were affiliated; last year Miami ohio plays Indiana for a spot in the big 10 2024

Luckily for Bama, they have a bye week in between Wisconsin and Georgia.

I am an AU fan and wonder if we wouldn’t be more competitive in the ACC!

oklahoma in the SWC was a mistake josh. keeping texas, OU, and nebraska in the same conference is definitely preferable to us OU fans

Pate, how is UConn a Big East basketball school but not a Big East football school in this scenario?

Dealing with Jermaine Burton for two years drove Saban out of coaching. #### Not a Saban/bammer fan, but I agree with him. Given emerging control by media elite, and their Vegas mobster profit centers, I'm rapidly losing interest. I don't watch fixed pro sports, and won't watch a sport where pride of university is a tangential, at best, consideration.

What happened to Academy? Are they not supporting Pate State anymore?

I don’t recall Iowa being in the big 8

Well, I'd like to see the old Big 8 back together. Keep Oklahoma in the SWC. Texas is where Oklahoma always got their players anyway. Good show, matey! Vaughn

Pate just fixed college football with the Power7. 8 team playoff - 7 autobids plus a g5 tournament (winner gets the 8th spot)

Swc.. get rid of rice for Oklahoma state, and SMU for Arkansas state and I’m on board

Boring Oregon checking in What if Oregon and Ohio State play three times next year?

Dabo, Kirby and Mack Brown. What about Malzahn in 2010?

@TheMootatedcow

5 ай бұрын

Gene Chizik was the head coach back then. Malzahn lost to Jimbo in 2014

Sticking Oklahoma in the Southwest Conference Josh. What did OU ever do to you man?...lol

@johnlee7085

5 ай бұрын

LOL!

@LilBoiPeep69

5 ай бұрын

i know.. just cant happen. like miami being in the acc and maryland in the big east 😬

WHAT HAPPENED WITH ACADEMY SPORTS

Not interested in being back with tech, baylor, tcu & uh

I’m kicking Vandy out of the SEC and adding Pate State. We don’t need two Nashville schools.

I see Alabama going undefeated in the regular season in 2024.

If Vanderbilt leaves the SEC in any manner they will stop playing football all together and they may do so anyways inside the next decade

20:14 mmmm idk. He came in getting the 1 reps because he’s getting money to go there. Theyre gonna see what he’s got first. Also they know Brown is talented, knows the offense and solid. Money talks. I’m not saying it goes into summer but buckeye beat saying it’s “Howard’s to lose” and it sounds like it isn’t even his at the moment from locker room

"ND history dates back to the Old Testament" 💀

For the love of all things Holy.. I need a 9 win Ag team. Gigem 👍

That's what I'm talking about @latekickwithjoshpate. A show with some variety. Conference realignment looks good minus Kentucky being SEC. Vandy should have been left on SEC. Kentucky should have been in Big10. Otherwise, it's a great line-up. As for Arkansas being 6 games win total, that is shakey ground for ole Sam. 7+ wins is his only hope for another year guaranteed. Win 5 or less, I think a new coach will be on the sidelines for 2025.

Oklahoma would NEVER stop playing Texas. They get their best recruits from the DFW area. Silly to think they would give that up.

Once it was play in exchange for an education. Now we see Free Enterprise enter the equation and it brings a new dynamic. It will evolve or we will lose the rest of the traditional CFB.

Pate State really should be running college football. Can we vote? These conferences are perfect.

Did Pate drop Academy? Can someone answer this

@charleswright2217

5 ай бұрын

I’d like to know also…..

Josh. WPS!!!!🐗. Thanks so much for talking about Arkansas. If Arkansas wins 6 game. That is enough this year. Next year would need to be 7. But this year 6 would be enough. We should go bowling every year. At minimum. That is the floor. But I think Sam Pittman should stay with 6 wins. Long live Sam Pittman. Long live Bobby P.

I would love to see a big east with all three Pennsylvania schools(Temple was a part of the original big east). Put Northwestern back in the big ten and slide Psu over to the big east.

Require a nonconference Bedlam and I’m in for your restructuring

i miss big east football so much

I love Alabama and that uniform. I want them to win and money was always involved.

Ryan Day has had more talent than any other coach in CFB history and his coaching made them look like chumps!!! His wins are from riding the natural talent of players!!!

@Jon.A.Scholt

5 ай бұрын

💯

See I’m perfectly okay with all these conferences and a playoff. As Texas they can stay home n the Big 8 like once upon a time as long as we’re playing them. Also Texas tech and Texas A&M bc believe it or not Josh even tho we’ve disagreed in pissed that we’re not playing them anymore as a Texas fan. Also I’m in the minority amongst Texas fans bc most couldn’t care less. I’m like you and rivalries in college aren’t exactly equal but we should play every year. We also need con vs con weeks too so we see great out of con games to really determine who’s who and what’s what. I also in my perfect world don’t want one or two losses making it to where your season is done. We’ve all seen teams who were playing hot at the end of the year who could give teams at the top a run for thier money. One example is 2004 Texas who won the 2005 championship. So gotta expand the playoff. There’s more examples then that too just have to go back and examine more teams.

The correct way to restructure CFB is for the SEC and Big 10 to swallow whatever teams they want and then leave the NCAA

Here we go again. I can’t count how many teams constantly get left out like they don’t exist.

Boooo for not respecting G5 teams enough to remap their conferences also. But a dozen high fives to you for not giving a shit about the playoff if we could have some great old traditions back!

Btw. LOVE the conferences. Love that Arkansas is back in the SWC. Love it.

At least Auburn's an Alabama school.

I want the WAC back Utah, BYU, Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Nebraska, San Diego State, Boise State!!! PAC-8,(keep it in the pacific coast) SWC should have Oklahoma State and Oklahoma in it!!! Big 8 would be Arkansas, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Vandy, and Northwestern!!! Say to Notre Dame if you want to be in the playoffs then join the Big Ten!!! Just saying!!!

I take it Josh wasn't invited to the bachelor party.

What I've noticed is the people complaining about Saban's statement of CFB is coming from people only concerned with $$$. They think they are entitled for $$$ and the only that ever matters in life is $$$. They don't even stop to think about how serious Saban was about being a proper life mentor with this players. He talks about it all the time and the players who won Natty's with him always take that way about being coached under him. New generation kids coming up and their parents are only concerned with $$$. A lot more than just this sport isn't looking good at the moment.

Oklahoma back to Big 8. You can't have the Big 8 without OU and Nebraska.

Even a 30 or 40 year old head coach should be fully equipped to say farewell if it bothers them as much as it did Nick. Maybe they don’t have a mansion and vacation home(s), but the millions they make could be more than enough to retire early, or switch to a life of relative leisure.

Ouch, gut punch to BYU fans by tossing us aside into independence after we finally get in to the Big XII. First you rank us below the two Arizona schools and Colorado somehow in your three-year rankings, and now this! If the Big 8 has to stay at eight teams, let Utah fans enjoy independence for a decade and see how they do! 🙂

I love going back to the original conferences (conceptually at least), but he really botched it in the particulars.

@LilBoiPeep69

5 ай бұрын

maryland to the acc and miami to the big east 💯

Vandy is FCS in my world

If Arkansas only wins 6 but is competitive in every game I think Hunter will let Sam stay. Beat Texas nothing else matters.

I'd rather Oklahoma was in SWC than Big 8. 👍👍👍

From Arkansas here. It all depends on how those 6 losses happen for me. So it may be enough, but it may not. Very political answer I know

Sports fans don't understand that not everyone can be elite at the same time.

Haha still don’t care bc we always needed the game played on the field so let’s stay in a dream world bc that works out for everyone

Georgia Tech in the SEC!

Y is it that Chip Kelly is OSU savior. When he was Oregon coach he was known as a GIMMICK coach. Bias of west coast on full display here

If you’re going to reinvent the sport/alignment, then scrap the old names and baggage. We lost regionalism, so let’s reinvent it regionally. N/S/E/W/NE/SE/SW/NW Limit the size to 8 (7 games) but orchestrate more inter conference games.

Not putting UConn in the Big East is a pretty big miss

@captainspartan04

5 ай бұрын

Who would you take out?

@FyrFytr998

5 ай бұрын

@@captainspartan04 Any team that wasn’t an original Big East member. Truth be told though, Pate should have kept the American Athletic Conference name as the Big East is and always has been a basketball first league.

You always tryna hype Miami up so bad.😂

@LilBoiPeep69

5 ай бұрын

they should be an 8 or 9 win team annually with runs at a title every once in awhile, but they arent. similar to a nebraska or texas a&m they just dont do what they should and win ball games.

Again that’s your opinion what’s best for the sport Josh. Again I don’t agree with everything that’s happening but yeha things have needed changing for awhile and we don’t run from competition around here bc we might lose a game. Again like I’ve said many of times on your show and you said on this we could’ve had a middle ground decades ago for college football. Guess who people like traditionalist thought it was perfect and didn’t need change so no middle ground was allowed. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm So the pushback is so real it had to be to reach middle bc again people like you were so far to one side it had to go this far to middle out The show honestly has been better especially the last one bc it was all about football. Let’s just talk ball. I rather hear and Montana St and all their players for an hour

The college football Saban knew and loved was oversigning, telling kids to hit the door when injured or outplayed, and all while being paid half a billion dollars and the players got nothing.

How do you as a player ALREADY APART OF THE TEAM, walk into the Greatest Of All Times office and ask how much are you going to pay me? My goodness what happened to this sport? You never valued anything he tried to instill in you. EDIT I love Pates Restructure. I love the old retro conference rebirth with it. The only thing I don't like is the Big8 playing 7 conference games vs everyone else's 9