A fight that should never have happened.

@joephil9

2 жыл бұрын

True

@billb5690

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. Never should have happened

@reginaldpeters5142

Жыл бұрын

Ali should have retired after the thrilla in manila. He had nothing else to prove after that

@nigelbiglari4552

Жыл бұрын

Ali was not healthy He was suffering from Parkinson. I think the rest is rubbish. Parkinson caused shakes of arms & hands and makes human body slow down.

@josephvitielo1693

Жыл бұрын

Much like Louis and Marciano Joe was too old Rocky in his prime

The best Ali vs Holmes upload

The most shameful fight ever to take place. Not only was Ali clearly showing early signs of Parkinson's with his slurred speech, mask like face and lack of balance (look how he's stumbling around during the introductions as Dundee grabs him; maybe playing partly, but he looks inebriated), but he had also been misdiagnosed as having a thyroid problem and was prescribed Thyrolar. These pills aid in weight loss but can be extremely dangerous for someone without a thyroid problem. Ali thought they were like vitamins and was popping several a day, which made him rapidly shed pounds but also caused him to lose muscle mass - you can see how much smaller his shoulders are compared to only 2 years prior. Two days before the fight, he collapsed during roadwork and was hospitalised with dehydration. During the fight, he was unable to perspire due to the effects of the Thyrolar medication he had been taking. Doctors after the fight said that he could have had a heart attack at any point.

@jumpnam

3 жыл бұрын

@mind He was not fine before this fight. His speech had slowed since the third Frazier fight. In fact he was thoroughly tested at the Mayo clinic prior to this fight. The findings were alarming: He could not accurately touch his finger to his nose; he had difficulty hopping on one leg; he exhibited signs of short term memory loss; and most disturbing, his MRI scan revealed an enlarged cavum septum pellucidum. This is a cavity between the frontal lateral ventricles of the brain, not normally found in healthy adults. This is a condition attributed to repeated trauma to the brain. The fact that he was cleared to fight despite these findings is shocking.

@travisbrown3270

3 жыл бұрын

Yea you are right. Announcers said playing and clowning around but it's different from all the other times. Ali looked intoxicated something was off that night. Parkinson's already ravaging him. Sad.

@jumpnam

3 жыл бұрын

@jack brandt You're right, it probably was more shameful. Definitely more pathetic, a shambles of an event. They even had to use the same 2 pairs of gloves for each bout.

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

@@jumpnam and so many people say that his disease has nothing to do with the shots he took during his career... I would like to know how many boxers had dementia and brain damage long after their boxing career, it would be intersting to know the pourcentage.

@travisbrown3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@jumpnam I did not know that. Damb

For Ali to last that long truly amazing heart of a champion

You could see on the replays Holmes was holding back when Ali was up against the ropes. He let go with some right hooks and uppercuts but then he stopped and didnt do any more..... I guess he figured that Ali was totally gone.

@nzrugbyleaguevidz

3 жыл бұрын

@Fred Virtuoso But he didnt kill him

@peaceout1887

3 жыл бұрын

@@nzrugbyleaguevidz explain 12:45

@matepavic6929

3 жыл бұрын

@Fred Virtuoso He didn't. He was probably one of the biggest fans of Ali.

@mankuqhapaqii4798

3 жыл бұрын

@@peaceout1887 What needs to be explained? He's not really using all his strength. That's expected from Larry Holmes.

@ellismaddox2776

2 жыл бұрын

@@peaceout1887 I’ve read he was told by his corner to try and make the ref call the fight at one point, ref probably didn’t cause you know, it’s Ali

Awesome upload. Pre and post-fight footage is super rare. Thank you!

@HZVideosOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's super rare. How people finds such rare classic gems 🤔 also that was sad to see but that's inevitable in life unfortunately 😔 RIP ALI & COSELL 🥊❤️

@devidina1891

3 жыл бұрын

@@HZVideosOfficial y

@chestermanalo7210

3 жыл бұрын

@@HZVideosOfficial Jackie Chan

@luisoliver55

3 жыл бұрын

Pesca

Holmes knew what was going on. He could of obliterated Ali but held back outta respect and boxed him. Shows the character of Larry.

@robbereal1982

5 жыл бұрын

Held back or not he couldn't hurt Ali.

@jonathanwhite1265

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Holmes held back.

@jonathanwhite1265

4 жыл бұрын

@@robbereal1982 Holmes could have seriously destroyed Ali.

@robbereal1982

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanwhite1265 no he couldn't. He wasn't hurt.

@arjunsuresh4286

4 жыл бұрын

@@robbereal1982 lol what an idiot

Wow I never heard Ali talk before that fight he’s slurring his words all over! How did they even allow this fight???

@joedowd1210

3 жыл бұрын

$$$$$$$$

@j.r.8592

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 35 and they caught my Parkinson's extremely early during a routine visit. I can guarantee that Ali was seeing the country's best neurologists before this fight and they knew he had mid stages of it. Whoever allowed this fight to happen is sick and belongs in prison. It's extremely difficult to accept that your heart is willing but your body isn't able

@danpoole7230

2 жыл бұрын

Money wont buy u health this is a prime example bless ali sod the tax man I'd say money the of all evil one saying that Sticks in my mind alot especially when I watch fights like this

@danpoole7230

2 жыл бұрын

Forgot route lol sorry guys lol

@jonnydanger7181

2 жыл бұрын

@@danpoole7230 yes and then he went broke. Sad.

Holmes really never gets the credit until at 42 years old he beat Ray Mercer

@jketcham9004

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and he beat by tyson after retire innactive, Don King says here 2 million, had no warm up. and no chance

@edithdodds190

4 жыл бұрын

@@jketcham9004 Holmes should never have fought tyson he was to old the best would have been a points decision it was done for money louis came back against the rock same thing and outcome .

@edithdodds190

4 жыл бұрын

Ali shouts at holmes i am a muslim so what Jesus is the king with muscles i ndeed and the only way to heaven .

@jketcham9004

4 жыл бұрын

@@edithdodds190 Louis was probably shot but had not choice, Holmes from what I understand has done well and did'nt need to do it for money, he needed tune up fights, said he sat on his couch for 2 years,

@hoxhabunker8407

3 жыл бұрын

Stfu Holmes didn’t pull any punches he wanted to kill Ali did you even watch the fight.

This is the fight Mike Tyson said he got "revenge for Ali" for. Revenge for what? Holmes was both professional and merciful in this match. The last two rounds he was clearly holding back.

@kevin.afton_

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, ridiculous.

@theradgegadgie6352

Жыл бұрын

@Kevin Afton Seriously though, if I got told I could go in the ring and get beaten senseless by Larry Holmes for nine million dollars, I'd do it too.

@kevin.afton_

Жыл бұрын

@@theradgegadgie6352 Yes, but should every boxer only care about the money or have some dignity and quit when its time, leaving behind a glorious career?

@theradgegadgie6352

Жыл бұрын

@Kevin Afton Well, I was thinking purely selfishly, and I don't have a glorious career or a sporting legacy to tarnish. Ali should have definitely NOT taken it, but he had those bloodsucking shits from the NOI wanting to suck all his fortune dry, not to mention his many alimony cheques. I think that's why he did it.

@muhammedakbas4160

11 ай бұрын

Are you sure about that holmes was merciful against Ali? So why have Ali's face swollen badly ? Holmes wanted knock out him it is so clear.

i honestly think that the Ali of the 70's would had trouble to beat the peak Larry Holmes of the early 80's. The young Ali was hundred times better than the Ali of the 70's. The Ali of the 60's is for me the greatest fighter.

@supra1722

3 жыл бұрын

it depends what year in the 1970's you catch him and what weight he was at. he was in top shape and form for Norton II, Frazier II, Bugner I, Quarry I and II. damn good shape for the Rumble, Chuvalo II, Blue Lewis, Lubbers. pretty good for the Thrilla, Patterson II, Ellis, and others. and quite a few he was eating ice cream and way overweight for, laying on the ropes trying to tire his opponent out and even some later fights with his timing off. upon his own admission, he was no longer fighting to box but fighting as a businessman since around late 75 on.

@ecosby100

3 жыл бұрын

It would have been a great fight to see these two in there prime It be a true battle

@ecosby100

3 жыл бұрын

@@supra1722 he was never as fast as he was in the 60s though

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

@@supra1722 It's hard for me to judge what really did Ali in the 70's. I have to admit that i have some doubts about the foreman's fight ( the fact that George seemed drunk after two rounds is weird... ), and many fights that seemed to be gifts for Ali : vs Jimmy Young, vs Norton 3 ( even the second fight ), vs Shavers, the 2 weird fights vs Spinks wich allowed Ali to have the title a third time... I'm not saying i'm right, i really don't know, maybe he did win all those fights fair and square with any controversy but i have some doubts to be honest. He became so much bigger than boxing itself, if you understand what i mean...

Holmes showed restraint in this fight. Class act. Too bad he didn't take out his frustration on Don King.

@kevinburke6055

3 жыл бұрын

Tyson didn’t do the same vs Holmes

@joephil9

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. He seemed to be holding back and not really letting his punches go. He did this out of rerspect for Ali and didn't want to damage him anymore

@MrDuds1984

Жыл бұрын

He knew Ali was not right and didn’t want to hurt him

@oldmanJ

11 ай бұрын

Everyone should take there frustrations out on DK repeatedly.

Still sad to watch even after all these years. R.I.P. Muhammad Ali, the Greatest!! And everyone recognize the greatness of Larry Holmes, perhaps the most underrated champion in history.

@silassmith354

3 жыл бұрын

No. Larry is one of the most overrated boxers in history. He simply used his size and reach advantage to stay away from his opponents power and slowly wear them down over 10-12 rounds. If his opponent was dangerous or more aggressive, Holmes would tie his man up and stifle his punches. So glad tyson gave him a good beating.

@peteparry9730

3 жыл бұрын

@@silassmith354 LOL, using his size and reach advantage is called "stategy", and in terms of Ali, Holmes was the same height and reach. Ali did many of the same things as Holmes, particularly tieing up his opponents to stifle their attack (see Ali - Frazier II). Holmes actually stopped some opponents who went the full distance with Ali. Some examples would be Earnie Shavers, Alfredo Evangelista, and Leon Spinks. Your argument, while in defense of Ali taking such a terrible beating that night, is not factual.

@silassmith354

3 жыл бұрын

@@peteparry9730 It was true redemption for all sane boxing enthusiasts to see Tyson totally destroy and obliterate larry and expose him to the world for what he was during his entire career: a total fraud and an arrogant prick.

@alopez1027

3 жыл бұрын

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@alopez1027

3 жыл бұрын

Iv

if somebdoy tells me that Holmes didn't held back in the last round, he's a fool...

@ppuh6tfrz646

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Ali was wide open, he threw four feeble punches in the entire round and Holmes could have opened up on him and ended the fight at any stage. Ali was lucky to have been in the ring with someone as honourable and as decent as Holmes was. Can you imagine if Ali had been fighting Shavers that night?

@ppuh6tfrz646

3 жыл бұрын

@Senior Billy Bull He was clearly holding back. You were either watching a different fight or you need your eyes tested.

@ppuh6tfrz646

3 жыл бұрын

@Senior Billy Bull Ermmm... Because Shavers was probably the hardest puncher in boxing history.. I think that just might have something to do with it. Ali was completely vulnerable in the Holmes fight and someone who could punch like Shavers would have inflicted enormous damage. Are you actually this stupid that you need to have that explained to you??

@denissssss8579

Жыл бұрын

He did in the last round but in round the round before Holmes almost koed Ali 😤😠😠

Two or three years prior to this fight, you can see Ali was in the very early stages, and he still managed to defeat Ken Norton and Leon Spinks. Just shows the character of the man and his resilience.

@jorgezuniga2807

Жыл бұрын

No comments..i was mocked for texting about how Cassius Clay betrayed everything he once pressed even disregarded his own health over greed money that was his God religion has nothing to do with this Allah where was Allah ? Liston took a dive.

@active.7universal

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgezuniga2807 first bout Liston took a boxing lesson//anyone who is willing to take a dive in a rematch would never OUTBOX prime Ali

@eddieworkman5855

9 ай бұрын

but ali the whole time wanted to fight holmes

Holmes will never get the respect he deserves!

@joephil9

2 жыл бұрын

True

@curtisburnam6453

Жыл бұрын

Oh Holmes has always had my respect

@denissssss8579

Жыл бұрын

What respect does he deserve exactly? For being proud of beating an ill Ali? 🤔🤔

@malikkimanimaasai3703

Жыл бұрын

@Denis SsSsS Having an unblemished record for 10 years Beating everyone out there not ducking anyone Being a good champion Need I say more🤔

@daniellap.stewart6839

Жыл бұрын

​@@denissssss8579 Nobory force ali to be there

Angelo ! Is a real hero . R.i.p to the legends! Ali, Holmes...

@shkumbinhasani3486

Жыл бұрын

He genuinely cared about him in this fight. A lot of people say Angelo wanted Ali to keep going after Manila, but here’s the thing that people don’t understand. Angelo was a molder of the statue, Angelo never told Ali what to do, Ali made the calls. Ishallah zoti e shperbleft me xhenet.

@benadams1661

Жыл бұрын

Holmes is still alive! 😆😆LOL 💀dead ROFL

@benadams1661

Жыл бұрын

@@shkumbinhasani3486 Holmes isn't dead stupid LOL 😆😆

"Legends die hard" one of the saddest quotes I have heard.

@dankemo3169

3 жыл бұрын

Who said that?

@dawoool

3 жыл бұрын

@@dankemo3169 Not George Foreman!

The End tho with Larry and Ali Taking The Mickey out of Howard was Funny 😄😄

Wow! I just saw an interview that Holmes said he only slap-boxed Ali in that fight!!

Larry Holmes had so much respect for Ali that he would never have stopped fighting even though he really knew something was wrong with him. It's a warrior's code. It's more honorable for them to go down in battle than for him to just say "stop the fight". The Ali of the 60s would have been an awesome challenge for Holmes. Holmes was just giving his idol another battle. That's what honorable warriors do. Both men, class acts and champions!

@silassmith354

3 жыл бұрын

Larry was the most overrated fighter in boxing history. Its a shame that Ernie Shavers punch didn't send him to the canvas for good.

@matepavic6929

3 жыл бұрын

@@silassmith354 Salty?

@silassmith354

3 жыл бұрын

@@matepavic6929 lol yeah lots of hate for Larry Holmes, most overrated boxer in world heavyweight history

@matepavic6929

3 жыл бұрын

@@silassmith354 Troll or just Ali fanboy?

@silassmith354

3 жыл бұрын

@@matepavic6929 Tyson fanboy ali was hyped his entire career and he had one of the most beautiful and unique names and chose to alter his name to one of the most overused names in history.

This fight NEVER should have happened.

@MrAitraining

Жыл бұрын

Agree but it was not Holmes who wanted the fight. It was Ali's delusion and ego wanting it. Holmes was in a no win situation.

This is the night Holmes became the Lineal/Ring Champion although he was the WBC champion already.

@Ijustinsultedyou

3 жыл бұрын

This is the night Holmes beat up a 37 year old man who was already displaying signs of Parkinson’s disease

@matepavic6929

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ijustinsultedyou It's not like he wanted this fight.

@mankuqhapaqii4798

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ijustinsultedyou Ali is the one who convinced Holmes to fight. During the fight Holmes asks for the fight to stop and keeps holding back until the very end.

@JMO_8111

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ijustinsultedyou homles took it real easy on Ali he gave Ali the fight he wanted ,but he didn't beat him the way he would've did a regular joe that was in their right mind just look at how homles is holding back you can tell he didnt want to keep fighting Ali ,but it is what it is. Holme respected Ali like a big bro and he cried afterwards because he didn't want Ali to go out this way

@Ijustinsultedyou

2 жыл бұрын

@@JMO_8111 Yeah I know that, everybody does. That’s not inside information. I’m not going to take anything away from Holmes, but I’m not going to add anything to him either. This was not a quality win on his résumé. When Larry Holmes was Ali’s sparring partner in the 1970s he couldn’t touch Ali. He couldn’t hit Ali with a handful of rice

Muhammad ali is so humble he do accept defeat R.I.P goat!

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

oh yes Humble is the best way to describe Ali's career. Humble all the way. Just jocking buddy :)

This fight was 40 years ago this week.

Holmes was the last great classy heavyweight champion we've had

@rachellebouchard6

Жыл бұрын

Holyfield was pretty classy and cool too :-)

@shkumbinhasani3486

Жыл бұрын

Tyson is the last heavyweight great

thanks for the good quality

Thanks, coach for this upload!

This is the saddest fight I have ever seen. Last was clearly holding back and was still dominating. Ali should never have taken this fight.

''all the people involved in this fight should have been arrested'' Ferdie Pacheco He summed up that criminal event perfectly..... that ''fight'' was a crime. I loved Joe Frazier and despised Clay/Ali growing up........and I cried like a baby watching this tragedy.

@nicholasisaacs6689

Жыл бұрын

I agree that the fight was very cruel and a crime to see Ali in that poor health condition..what a shame..RIP CHAMP..You'll always be THE GREATEST of All boxers

Esta pelea jamás se tendría que haber llevado a cabo.

Sad day 😢

Ali still showed resilience though, He was 38 years old, had Parkinson’s, and he was really tired and he still didn’t go down so technically he still proved himself as the true champion.

@fitzgeraldanthony9333

3 жыл бұрын

No he didn't. He got beat BAD by the Real champion who did his job.

@mankuqhapaqii4798

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't go down because Holmes was holding back

@fitzgeraldanthony9333

3 жыл бұрын

It was clear to see Holmes was pulling his punches. Had he really unloaded like he did on Snipes, Tex Cobb and Jaws Ocassio, Ali would have been stopped by standing tko or on his back.

@joedowd1210

3 жыл бұрын

Ali had one of greatest chins in heavyweight history!

@troybilheimer7162

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I think holmes was the reason ali didnt get put to sleep I think holmes realized after the first few punches ali attempted to throw that this fight was already over and he was in no danger at all.

Ali clearly has Parkinson's Disease by this point and should never have been allowed to fight.

@Jim_Harwood

3 жыл бұрын

You sit here and listen that Ali was cleared by the Mayo Clinic one of the top medical facilities in the country plus he was cleared by Nevada State Commission Doctor and yet you tell everyone "It's clear Ali has parkinson's disease". Great job genius.

@ButchMcLarty

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jim_Harwood To his credit, Ali's own fight doctor refused to participate in Ali's corner. Obviously, the orgs you mentioned were compromised by the big dollars of the match.

@Jim_Harwood

3 жыл бұрын

@@ButchMcLarty That was 1977 genius. Ferdie Pacheco left the Ali camp because he thought Ali was taking too many beatings. That's a far cry from a Parkinson diagnosis by a neurologist. And trust me the Mayo Clinic is not going to ruin their billion dollar institution so that a few crooked nosed mobsters can pocket $5-10$ million in Vegas gaming wins. You people are idiots. Ali was always a flawed fighter and as he got older it just became more obvious. You guys prefer excuses to the truth.

@ButchMcLarty

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jim_Harwood Ali should have retired after the third Frazier fight, at the latest, you moron. Ali had Parkinson's long before the so-called official diagnosis. Pacheco gave him solid advice and Ali rejected it. Ali paid the price.

@Jim_Harwood

3 жыл бұрын

@@ButchMcLarty You call me a moron with that argument? You said Ali had Parkinson . It was clear you said as if you are a trained neurologist. That's stupid comment #1. Then you claimed the highly regarded multi billion dollar healthcare giant Mayo Clinic faked a diagnosis of Ali's disease so that Vegas casino's could hold a big fight and line their pockets. That dumb comment #2-- real dumb. Now you call me a moron and add a non sequitur that Ali should have stopped fighting long before he did. WHOOPEE now that's a newsflash.

Ali was fighting two opponents in this match, Holmes and Parkinsons. It was hard to watch, 10 years earlier, Holmes would've missed 3/4 of those jabs as Ali ducked and weaved. Ali's punching speed was about 50% of his prime.

@bb-gc2tx

2 жыл бұрын

larry is greatest champ in history he beats ali of any era

@air1outofficialmusicpage996

2 жыл бұрын

@@bb-gc2tx He's fighting a sick Ali smh... It's Ali Confidence and Competitiveness that Keeps him in the Ring at that Point of his Career as Well as Who ever was Money hungry and Snakes that didn't care for his Health.... Don't Disrespect the Greatest!.. The World Know's That... 💪🏾

@TheBatugan77

2 жыл бұрын

@@air1outofficialmusicpage996 Holmes sure smacked the SHIT outta him, didden he? 🗣️💥👋

@air1outofficialmusicpage996

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBatugan77 😂😂😂..

@mohammedkhan2303

2 жыл бұрын

Bro he stood in the ring for 11 rounds with Parkinson’s disease he would have f ed him before

Ali tried his old trick of holding behind the head but Larry wasn't havin' it.

Excellent quality. I would love to see the physical report prior to this fight. It is clear in Ali's eyes that something is terribly wrong (Onset of Parkinson's).

@pamle1

4 жыл бұрын

He could have just been hamming it up.... hard to tell. His reflexes were shot. There are so many boxers who theoretically could have had nice short careers and been no worse for the wear, such as Wilfred Benitez. Sad.

@michealjaymurphy

3 жыл бұрын

The mayo clinic gave him a clear bill a health and blamed the slow speech on lack of sleep. I feel they must have been paid off or something

@philfrank9226

3 жыл бұрын

He was full of drugs.

@selfloveandsportstalk3355

3 жыл бұрын

@@michealjaymurphy “they” told Ali they was gonna shut him up, they wanted really destroy Ali 💯 make him suffer

@BLKBKLN

3 жыл бұрын

The tell was always in his eyes and emotionless face. Everything else just confirmed it.

This fight should never have happened. Whoever signed off on Ali’s boxing licence should have been investigated.

@Granger15

2 жыл бұрын

Ali was surrounded by "yes men." This was very hard to watch.

@user-yx9bs8zo5q

2 жыл бұрын

Ali didn't do anything he didn't wanna do. It's all about the money

@monsieur2593

Жыл бұрын

He had parkinson. Failed the physicial test that consisted of touching his nose, hooping on one leg, had slurred speech. Did worst than male on his age on thoses test, let alone elite athlete. They corrupted the mayo clinic to have his boxing licence, since the nevada athletic commission refused to give it to him after the failed physical test. On top of that. He was misdiagnosed by a member of his medical team with with thyroid imbalance (hospital results will show that he never had imbalance). Prescribed thyrolar. Muhammad Ali took two pills instead of one thinking they are like vitamines. Nobody taking double the dosages must engage in intense physical activity. It caused the heatstroke he had during the fight. He could have died in that ring of a heart attack.

Holmes in his prime... he really was a great... could of beat anyone

@charliejdk

3 жыл бұрын

D Mimz, you are right. Lots of people can’t forgive the Easton Assassin for marking the functional end of the fantastic Ali’s era. Holmes wasn’t a media darling, nor was he a social hero. But by golly Larry Holmes was a great heavyweight champ in his own right.

@DRose2Fast

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think he would have been able to beat prime Ali. Ali was faster with his punches and quicker on his feet. Even if Ali wasn’t in his prime but had no onset of Parkinson’s (which he clearly has here), Ali would still win in all likelihood.

@j.r.8592

2 жыл бұрын

Holmes has one of the best jabs I've ever seen in my life and could have held his own against any top heavyweight in any era.

@maxfrudd7666

2 жыл бұрын

Not Ali in his prime he wouldn't,but he was underated for sure,Ali did much better in his next fight against Berbick, probably this is how he would have looked and fought against Holmes if not for the medication issue,Ali would have still lost to Holmes but probably would've gone the distance..

@deanladue3151

2 жыл бұрын

Larry was reaching his peak physically, which is another reason the match never should have happened. Ali was a complete shell of himself and had no chance against Holmes.

This is the young student taking over from an aging master. Ali is a legend - never to be forgotten. RIP Champ. Holmes was a great fighter too.

@brandonmorris92

Жыл бұрын

Curious: Was Don King involved in this fight?

You can hear the heartbreak in Howard Cosell's voice. He cared about Ali.

I remember watching the fight soo well. Even then l thought my goodness Ali's speech and look. I loved Ali but l wished he never took this fight. Larry is and was always a pure gentleman.

Ali remained very humble after the loss. Larry didn’t wanna kill him but he had to do the dance. Real Gs right here.

@KryptonitetoallBS

9 ай бұрын

B/S. Holmes is a disgrace putting CASH before the health of a "SO-CALLED" friend!!!

I've never been a big Holmes fan but I do think he was very underrated. People were mad at Holmes this fight but he's a boxer performing his profession it's Ali's people that people and the public should be mad at. Ali's own people put him in danger for letting him fight that night and the sport of boxing is also at faught.

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

it's called social engineering my friend. Do you think you didn't like Holmes too much naturally and that you worshiped Ali because of your free will? Of course Ali had an obvious charm and an indenibal charisma, but we must not forget that he was invited in all the television shows, he was part of the show business. Holmes was an average person, and he was the one who lived the real American dream, as he lived in a slum with his mother and 11 siblings, Ali was from the upper middle class. Look at the reaction of the audience shouting: Ali Ali. Do you think the media have nothing to do with this? At the same time, don't you think Holmes was hated by people just because reporters consistently despised him? People fail to understand how much media power plays a critical role in what you think you like and what you don't.

@travisbrown3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@emzid5105 flirts off you are going over board. You are sounding like some kind of professor with the free will talk and this and that. Also I don't and have never worshipped Ali. As far as media and show business yea they make a very big impact. But I still know what I like and don't like media is not gonna cloud my judgement that much. Man come on you are making this way more difficult than it should be. Me not being a big Holmes fan is just that. Not because of media influence. Although it does effect some people's feelings more than others. But I still stand by my original comment.

@travisbrown3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@emzid5105 hey man sorry about my comment I was not trying to be a jerk. I misunderstood your comment. But yea you are right.

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

@@travisbrown3270 oh it's ok, no problem my friend :) Your answer did not shock me at all, you answered me respectfully. It's more up to me to apologize to you because my com may seem aggressive and that wasn't my goal at all. My com was not really aimed at you personally, and you are far from being the only person who "dislikes" Holmes. Sometimes it annoys me to find that people are unaware of the power that the media have on their "tastes" and opinions. Peace my friend and sorry again ;)

@travisbrown3270

3 жыл бұрын

@@emzid5105 Thank you. You are absolutely 100% correct about the media's role of what and how people feel about things. Me and my wife talk about it also. Whether good or bad the media has a huge effect on people. The media in my opinion is what keeps a lot of the turmoil, racism, hatred and many more things alive and the focus of the world. So now as far as the original topic even though Holmes was never a favorite of mine I do think he was a great boxer and very very underrated and not given the respect praise he deserved. But thanks again.

I can't bear watching Ali- Holmes fight despite the years has passed !.

This fight should have never been scheduled. Holmes was Ali's sparing partner before he ( Holmes) went pro.

@benadams1661

Жыл бұрын

It was karma for being a smart arse Islamic racist, Larry taught him a good lesson that night, don't dump on the country that gave you the freedom and opportunity to be great, he became a brainwashed fool like those bastards who killed thousands of innocent Americans on Sep 11/2001, lest we forget 😔

This fight is too sad to watch

@jketcham9004

4 жыл бұрын

depends how you look at it. I never watched it. Until now. start to see through things like Isaak kappy, and read heller book and tyson is guilty of rape as is lamotta, so who knows.

@DrLoverLover

3 жыл бұрын

Dont watch it then

@jmarra07

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrLoverLover Wow, I never thought of that /s

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmarra07 lol

the fight seems like Ali is literally fighting sleep walking

@erizzo8543

3 жыл бұрын

He looks whacked out the entire time. Not sane at this point for sure

@davidpope9892

3 жыл бұрын

He'd taken Thyrolar tablets to slim down which meant he couldn't sweat so was overheating

@thetruesquad5059

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidpope9892 wtf are u on about lol

@matepavic6929

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetruesquad5059 It's true, actually.

@knockedoutloaded279

3 жыл бұрын

I think Ali could have won. If it wasn't for the thyroid pills... He never punched.. He had no strength..

Ali's speech was definitely affected and the very early onset of Parkinsons was developing when talking to Cosell. RIP

I love how in the ninth round he tries to dance a little he knows its over But he still eants to entertain the crowd

ali was already talking in slow mo

Wow, this was so hard to watch...!!!!

Man it's 2022 and I can't watch anymore of this..Peace and RIP Champion 😪

How great are these clips of great men!

Larry Holmes a great Champion! Never got the recognition of great because of Muhammad Ali

Muhammad Ali had no business in the ring In this fight he should not have even been licensed to fight

@Mr.Random3D

4 жыл бұрын

Back then they didn't care

@denissssss8579

3 жыл бұрын

Someone offered him 8 millions that’s why he agreed sadly...

@DrLoverLover

3 жыл бұрын

So?

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

@@denissssss8579 Exaclty. It reminds me the fight Holmes vs Tyson. Do you realise that Tyson fought a retired man since 2 years, exactly like Muhammad Ali vs Holmes. Plus Larry is 18 YEARS OLDER THAN TYSON. it's sad to notice what the money can do to people. Techniquely, Holmes could have been Mike's father and Muhammad was already sick and old for this fght.

@denissssss8579

3 жыл бұрын

@@emzid5105 yep

Knowing what we know now it’s understandable why people weren’t fans of this fight.. Yet ironically everyone seems to be silent on the subsequent Ali Berbick fight

For anyone interested this took place October 2nd 1980. Ali was 38 and Holmes was 31.

Ali just never knew when too stop a true Legend

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

Same for Holmes my friend. He retired at 52...

@Ffeoli1039

2 жыл бұрын

@@emzid5105 Holmes actually was pretty successful in his later years. He fought pretty well against the top fighters during that time

@denissssss8579

Жыл бұрын

@@Ffeoli1039 butter bean

45:40 Thank God for Angelo. You hear him telling Ali's crony corner yes men mainly bundini to leave Ali alone and that's it. Fight is over.

Lovely comments; thank you very much! Lovely comments from the greatest and most popular champion M Ali! Engineer Ismailzada

Loved the interview after the fight - Insane (and sad) that Ali was talking about a further comeback...

Sad how Parkinson's can affect any human being never mind the greatest. He looks intoxicated like he was partying the night before or something. Sad stuff.

@davidpope9892

3 жыл бұрын

He was overheating after taking Thyrolar tablets to slim down

@DrLoverLover

3 жыл бұрын

So you dont know anything about parkinsons.

@steventhompson2511

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrLoverLover Nothing about experiencing no... Do you??

10:43 Love how Larry is standing out there like a statue while Ali is clowning and throwing himself at Holmes.

@allanmartinez2589

Жыл бұрын

Ali looked crazy 😅

@anthonytoler3916

Жыл бұрын

Holmes said Ali used to beat him up in sparring. Larry said he thought Ali was acting like he couldn't fight anymore . But ended up saying damn! He went down that bad?.. I will make sure that never happens to me

If anything, it was bittersweet seeing Rahman Ali congratulate Larry Holmes.

This fight should not have been allowed

Muhammad Ali will always be the best of all time.

Una pelea que no tenía que haberse celebrado nunca!!

This fight should never have been allowed to happen. When Rocky Marciano fought a clearly done Joe Louis, Rocky yelled at the ref ... "What do you want me to do, kill him?" You can see Larry had the same feeling and respect for Ali.

It is particularly sad when Howard Cosell starts to reminisce about Muhammad Ali's best fights.

Even to this day Holmes won't admit he fought a washed up over the hill sick Ali. Think how well a prime Ali would've done. That said, credit to Holmes for being merciful most of the fight, he held back a lot and didn't go all out on Ali, good example is the 10th round, he mostly just flicked out some punches here and there, didn't want to hurt Ali more than necessary to win the fight. Had tons of respect for Ali. I respect Holmes for that! Ali taught him so much, and helped him out tremendously in previous years.

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

exactly what i noticed about the flicking punches in the 10 th round, he was trying to puch Ali to stop by himself. He cried in the ring after the fight in the ring, hiding his head on his wife's shoulder, so that he couldn't be seen crying on TV. We can see it on the other full fight video on youtube. Holmes has always wanted to look strong and tough, but he's a very sensitive guy, contrary to appearances.

@charliejdk

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone wants Larry Holmes to help them hold onto their cherished Ali memories. But Larry was a great champ and Ali was just one of many stellar champs who hung on too long. Happens more often than not. All Larry did was beat his opponent. The rest is boomer angst.

I've never seen that last portion where they were interviewed very interesting stuff , always felt sorry for Larry, people hated him for that fight, ALI and Holmes were buddies till the end

Ali was the greatest showman ever

Angelo Dundee, the only one who thought of Ali's humanity: Sequence 45:45

No way Larry would’ve won against Ali in the prime

@jeffriessman9693

Жыл бұрын

Of course not

Holmes' combinations are so quick

😢😢😢 listening to his slowed speech

I feel bad for ali. Holmes knew the whole game plan too but he had a heart. These guys went through those punishments from the higher ups in boxing industry. They are hypnotized, beginning of fight holmes got hisself smothered with something and ran up to ali and did something ... Ali swung at him but as it happen you can see him starting to shut down. He was looking at him like "wtf" he was saying I'm your "father" just heartbroken why holmes couldn't look at him..at the end of the fight when have you ever seen a referee jump in to try block ali. He just sat there guy whispering something in his ears and he shut down almost robot like. Idk why ppl surrounded him after a fight with no air... His corner man looked like he was crying and don tapped him on the shoulder. Camera stayed outta ali corner and all this sudden they ring the bell again.... This is just not right.

They should have talked Ali out of this fight

As sad and heartbreaking this is, it deserves an HBO documentary.

Ali later said he knew he was in trouble after the first round because he was already tired

Two of my all-time favorite fighters and this was sad, but not just for Ali, but for Larry as well...you could tell he truly had massive respect for his hero Ali. He always said that this fight bothered him more than any in his career. In my opinion, these guys are as good as it gets in the game of boxing. Two ring generals who most definitely had the heart that truly makes a champion. RIP Muhammad, you were the gentleman who made me fall in love with the sport. Larry was the fighter that I cheered forever, I remember taking a lot of flak for cheering for Larry against Cooney, who was yet another failed great white hope...I loved watching Larry and I had zero doubt he would take Cooney out.

Even before the first bell Ali was stumbling around. 😢😢😢

@travisbrown3270

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. He was in shape to fight that night.

The Greatest!! RIP Champ!!

Larry Holmes has said in interviews that after the fight he was actually crying in the locker room feeling sorry for Ali.

@writtenbyraymildo8557

Жыл бұрын

Yeah true. He was very sad.

Holmes deserves more credit. Ali wanted to stay in the limelight passed his prime which was his choice. You can tell Holmes is holding back a lil compared to how he fought Norton and Shavers. Respect to both legends!

@76WestSports

4 жыл бұрын

Ali didn't want to fight Holmes between 1977 to 1979. When Holmes defeated Norton, Ali looked at the fight with Frank Gifford and had this oh shit let me get out and retire soon expression.

@Razah.

Жыл бұрын

@@76WestSports what a load of nonsense 😂 so you’re saying Ali was scared to fight holmes so he retired only to come out of retirement to fight holmes? Right 😂😂😂😂😂

@76WestSports

Жыл бұрын

@@Razah. Ali avoided Holmes when he was champion to take easier fights. This is facts. Ali came out of retirement to fight Holmes because he needed money. Ali 'is' human. His camp knew Holmes had mastered Ali's style and was ALMOST a younger version of Ali by 1976.

@Razah.

Жыл бұрын

@@76WestSports holmes wasn’t on anyones radar as he was not top 5 contender when Ali retired it’s only when Ali retired holmes had a chance to get the spotlight. Also Ali mastered Ali’s style, holmes did when with Ali’s style because the style was so advanced,

The speech of Ali was so bad

The king of boxing Mohammed Ali 🫀🌟💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

I loved the camaraderie between all three at the end - was TV really this good back then?

For Ali fans who wished death on Holmes for this fight, let's hold Ali accountable for not fighting Holmes in 1977 and 1978. Ali decided to defend his title against Alfredo Evangelista and Leon Spinks who did not pay his dues like Holmes up to that point. I do not blame Ali for taking those fights; however, I don't blame Holmes for this fight because technically Ali was the lineal and Ring Magazine Champion because according to those rules you have to beat the champion head to head. So please do not blame Holmes because Ali did not want to defend the WBA/WBC title against his deserving undefeated former sparring partner back in 1977 and 1978. Ali knew after watching the Holmes vs Norton fight that it was time for his former student (Holmes) to dominate the division. As he watched on with Frank Gifford, you can tell Ali was like,"Oh shit. Let me get out of this sport ASAP because the guy I trained looks to much like a younger me."

@eternityjackson3564

3 жыл бұрын

Holmes was fighting a patient with Parkinson's. Ali has had Parkinson's since 1977. What a great achievement from Holmes. :-)

@emzid5105

3 жыл бұрын

@mind go watch the tyson fight once again, you'll feel better mr hater ;)

@victorianicolau9431

Жыл бұрын

@@eternityjackson3564 it's not holmes fault ali doesn't know how to make decisions for himself

@denissssss8579

Жыл бұрын

No one is blaming Holmes. Who the hell ever blamed Holmes in this fight? We blame all the doctors, clinics and referees who allowed this fight to happen. They should be charged and put in jail. It’s not Holmes fault, he just did his job.

Listen to Ali talkin with cossell at the start of the video that brain damage was settin in bad

@daveoliver5838

3 жыл бұрын

Surprised that Cossell didn’t ask him about the obvious, the state of his mental health !

back in the day.great time's great fighter's and good ole howard.

What comes up must go down

For anyone that ever watched Holmes box a single round, Its very obvious Holmes was holding back from the sound of the bell in round one, Holmes did not even want this bout to occur & personally asked Ali to reconsider but Ali was in financial distress & needed the money. Some seem to forget these men knew each other for a long time prior to this bout & Holmes even lived with Ali when he was his sparring partner. They were actually good friends. Most of Holmes punches were either slap blows or pulled punches. If Holmes did not fight at all, Ali would have taken this as a great insult. Ali was after all a prize fighter & wanted to be treated as such. Destroying his mentor in the ring however was never on Holmes agenda. This was probably the most difficult fight of Holmes career, not physically mind you but emotionally & mentally. Like Holmes basically said before the fight, "Even if I win, I lose......In the ultimate sign of respect, Holmes attended Ali's funeral & was made an honorary pallbearer by the Ali family.

@PennPearson

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting comment. Thank you for it.

@ObsidianElohim

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that. Holmes could've really hurt Ali bad in there if he tried.

@Anthony-Testicali

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was obvious holmes was trying to knock ali unconscious

@denissssss8579

Жыл бұрын

Holmes held back? He almost knocked Ali out in round 9! Ali took tremendous damage man! Holmes didn’t hold back at all until the very last round! Yet he is still proud even today for beating an old and sick Ali. He is a moron. No credits for Holmes. Gonna watch Mike Tyson’s revenge now again to feel better.

Thanks for the upload. I couldn't watch 90% of it. Ali shouldn't of took this fight.

@daveoliver5838

3 жыл бұрын

Larry was holding back, could have stopped him earlier.

Teddy Pendergass and JR Ewing had men wearing cowboy hats in the early 80s

Larry and Joe are the best

@SKa-tt9nm

2 жыл бұрын

Which joe?

@82rotiv

2 жыл бұрын

@@SKa-tt9nm Joe Frazier

What happenened in this fight with Ali? He looks so different, when he got lots of punches he wouldn’t strike back he was only pushing Larry from him...

@youtoo2233

3 жыл бұрын

Washed up, on pills, early Parkinson's

@thetruesquad5059

3 жыл бұрын

@@youtoo2233 how did the pills affect him

@matepavic6929

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetruesquad5059 Watch the interview after the fight.

@thelevisullivan

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetruesquad5059 He wasn’t perspiring because of the pills of because of that, his body wasn’t producing enough moisture and he got tired fast.

One thing about Ali, even in defeat, he was classy. That handshake and look into Holmes face in front of the cameras is a thing of character.

Holmes personally told Ali not to take the fight. He knew Ali wasn't up to it. He didn't even fight him closed fist. He was slap boxing him open hand to keep from hurting him bad. Ali took the fight anyway for the bag.