Yes its very useful to crop in camera ,it realy helps to visualize the composition and what works the best. I'm not using everytime because sometimes I know what I love in the scene and know how I will crop it. Both technique works for me.

Ha, Alister, so it's the end of an era of using your old Nikon D850; enjoy playing with your new toy! :) Best wishes.

@Alister_Benn

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Yeah, it is really. They’ve been real workhorses over the years. I hope you’re well.

Great stuff as always!

I love the B&W at 6:00, I could look at that for ages. The energy in the water is palpable. 😇

@Alister_Benn

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Thanks mate ❤️

I appreciate the follow up on this topic. I'm not sure it you said it, but he word intentionality was what resonated the most. As I enter my third year with a camera, "intentional" has been my mantra!

I worked exclusively with film until 2016 so it has always been my habit to crop in processing.

@Alister_Benn

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Give it a go ❤️

Absolutely brilliant video! You have a great knowledge and can back it up with phenomenal shots. Subscribed!

very valuable.... I am doing more cropping in camera lately after you introduced it...

It definitely helps for composition, but I end up shooting the full sensor anyway after setting up the photo. Never know if I'll end up changing my mind!

I use magic lantern on my 2 rather old Canon 5d mark 2's to give me previews too of late I kinda getting back into 6 by 7 for example a square with headroom;)

Interesting perspective Alister. I’ll probably continue cropping in post, but your video will make me think more about crop ratios in the field.

@Alister_Benn

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Happy to hear that. If the pixels remain then I see more positives than negatives

Hello Alister, thank you again. I don‘t have the option to crop in camera. Because of your approach I have been focussed on the issue of aspect ratios and perception and I learn more and more to imagine the crop while still framing in 3:2. I find it very satisfying to experiment with different aspect ratios in processing and I very often produce more than one version of a photo I like. So for me it‘s not only getting rid of parts that distract the image, but as you show very often: you can emphasise different aspects of the frame. Thank you for putting me on that rail (I hope that makes sense in English🤔).

@Alister_Benn

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Total sense, wonderful comment, thank you

Great channel you have here Alister. Like you I like to crop in camera. Like the ability to pre-visualise black and white in camera, the ability to choose different aspect ratios is one of the great features of modern cameras. I shoot a lot in 1:1, 16:9 and 4:3 aspect ratios, but much less so in 3:2 aspect ratio unless the composition demands it. The 3:2 aspect ratio for some reason seems less interesting to me. I just wish my camera had a 4:5 aspect ratio. In shooting different aspect ratios (and different picture modes), I always shoot JPEG and RAW. I use the JPEG to remind me of my intention in the field as my camera doesn't throw away the excess pixels.

I shoot Nikon and Fuji as well as Hasselblad 6x6, like you said they both (Nikon and Fuji) output in camera cropping differently. Since my days in the darkroom I have developed a habit to do final crops in post. Just as I did with the frame guides on my darkroom photo-paper tray, in digital I compose with the full sensor readout. I may at times pull up the aspect ratio viewfinder crops just to get a crop preview but in the case of the Nikon I expose the whole sensor as long as I got enough of the subject scene I want. The other reason I crop in post is because I found years down the line my perception of the composition changes and by shooting a complete sensor readout I can re-frame and change the aspect to my heart's content. Several time I'll revisit an edit and feel I left something out of the frame and by having the original full Raw sensor read I am good to go.

A bit of both really but when you do it in the camera you do start to see other compositions so it has to be a worthwhile practice.

It's a very good tip, because when I see the crop before, it makes a huge difference in composing the image. Normally I have the crop in mind when I take the shot, but it was not possible to exact remind it. I will use it in the future, put the function in my FN menue, so that I can choose it very fast. I've tested my A1, and I can choose the classical crops (3:2, 4:3, 16:9, 1:1), and only the jpg lose the pixels, the raw only import the crop to Lightroom, so that I have both of the worlds, the exact crop I choose and the possibility to change it in post, if I will. Thank you!

@Alister_Benn

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Happy to hear that, thanks

I choose to crop in camera, which on my fuji gfx and ricoh gr3 keep pixels in raw, but because I shoot in jpeg + raw so I've the crop committed on the jpeg for reference as to what my on the day vision was but then have the safety of the raw if I have a what was I thinking moment later on

@Alister_Benn

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Exactly how I do it now

I've never explored the options on my Fuji X camera. I do use the B&W preview, which really changes how I compose a scene. I'm looking forward to experimenting with the aspect ratio. Thanks for another thought-provoking lesson.

@Alister_Benn

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Awesome, happy to hear that

Before I went mirrorless, I was in the habit of cropping my compositions "in my head" and framing the shot with my likely crop in mind. That still pretty much works; but cropping in-camera with my R5 without actually losing data both quickens the process and enables me to adjust in post if appropriate. It looks like in the first image comparison, the 16x9 version was shot at a wider focal length than the 3x2. There's more scene actually visible on the right side of the image, so it's literally a more expansive composition. I didn't see your announcement of your camera switch, but the GFX 100S was my guess given the amount of time you've spent with Mr. Gibbs lately. I look forward to seeing how you get on with it.

@Alister_Benn

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Cheers man, yeah , the D850 deleted pixels the gfx doesn’t. It makes it even more cool now I can comp to an aspect ratio but retain full frame

You’v mensioned a few times before that you cropped 16:9 in the d850. I looked and looked in mine d850, but never coolden’d find it! I thought wtf is different😂 Now i no. Thnx Allister.

Interesting to hear your perspective on cropping. I have for many years shot with a Hasselblad 503cx and I like the fact I didn’t have an option with the square format. Since now moving to a Hasselblad h4x with a Phase One Back (p45+), I struggle to shot square as there is no in camera cropping. I have in the end made a template so that when I view down the view finder I see square and not 6x4.5… I am use to square and probably see in square…

@Alister_Benn

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Nice rig, I had an H3 and P45+ many years ago. Happy with the GFX100S

I'm lucky that my camera has these crop modes and without losing pixels but I like to use the 6x4 grid as most crop ratios are quite simple to get using the grid approximately. If the scene allows enough time and I want to get it as near as I can then I will use the crop but the more I use the grid the les often I do. Heck as I'm on a roll i'll admit to being a heretic with my 7x6 film camera and had the lines drawn on the viewfinder for 2x1 when that was a favourite :-)

Well you have got your wish for your in-camera pano crop! Are you still going to hang on to your Nikon gear? Just wondering whether it is still a better option for your bird photography and long telephoto work?

@Alister_Benn

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I haven’t photographed birds in many years, so no dramas with that. Sure, I miss the very long end, but I’m ready for a change ❤️

Unfortunately I can't crop in camera. I think my Sony alpha 7 Riii don't provide me this opportunity. But I am not sure about it. Do you know that? I would like to crop in camera because it is easier for the composition. Best regards Julia

@Alister_Benn

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Yes you can, it’s in the manual ❤️ helpguide.sony.net/dsc/1530/v1/en/contents/TP0001087231.html

@Juliaredlphotography

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@@Alister_Benn yes thank you but there is not the opportunity to take square pictures