I would usually class mistakes as not getting the focus right, camera shake, burning out highlights etc. More technical. Not liking a composition is a matter of opinion and it’s good to push the boat out. If it works then you will gain a higher dose of confidence than what you would playing it safe.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Fair point James, I see where you are coming from. But obviously shot selection is hugely important in photography and if we get that wrong then we are facing an up hill battle. You know as well as I do just how important it is to get one in the bank before we start experimenting with new things.

@arlomatthias6492

3 жыл бұрын

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@kasenwade5386

3 жыл бұрын

@Arlo Matthias Instablaster :)

@arlomatthias6492

3 жыл бұрын

@Kasen Wade Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and im in the hacking process atm. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

"The man who never made a mistake, never made anything".

I make mistakes on a regular basis. But if I don't make mistakes how will I ever improve. It's all part of the learning experience. So well said Chris, well said.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jules

Mistakes Chris make us grow, not only photography but in all walks of life. as ever you nailed the shot and your insight helps budding photographers like myself all the time. Thank you.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Gary

Chris that opening shot is really something to be very satisfied with. thanks for showing.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John - I was pretty happy with it.

Go out and make mistakes! But as you have said...accept the fact end learn from them. If you don‘t, you will never improve... It sounds so clever ... but yes, it's true. Thanks for sharing!!!

Oh, and my tip is to print your images, even the imperfect images. You'll learn even more by looking at a print. :-)

@Ron-sj7ou

4 жыл бұрын

Yes -- have learned this over and over. Good point.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I have heard that said before, probably by you! :) How does looking at a print help you to learn more?

You are bang on when you talk about confidence taking a hit when you mess up, and yes we all do have those moments. It's important to get back in the saddle swiftly and then get on with the good stuff. If you know why you made the mistake then you are on the right track. :)

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I think as someone who is trying to turn a passion into a career I have to be very careful how I manage my confidence. Pushing myself too hard and trying new things too often could have a detrimental impact on my business.

One of your best this! Firstly wow I have to shoot that location... secondly, so many words and all in the right order. Spot on info inspiration and help for any photographer! Well done Chris, this is not easy to do. To stand I front of camera and explain the well what makes you improve and develop. Eloquently put! And as if that’s not enough. SHOTS!! I hope you agree portfolio material. My tip, empty mind full memory card. Don’t take the mick, empty mind as in clear no thoughts, look without thinking too much. But you pretty much nailed it. Confidence is a huge factor.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mali - look without thinking too much? That is an interesting approach. I will have to give it a try some time. Cheers buddy.

As a long term viewer, i would encourage you to show your 'mistakes' as you put it. I can't speak for you but I learn most from my mistakes / poor photographs. So much of your channel is about learning, seeing the good,bad and the ugly is all part of that process.

@byoregon1

4 жыл бұрын

Graham Jones Agree. An analysis of a bad image would be valuable to me as well.

@JohnDrummondPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Thomas Heaton did such a video recently, where he slammed some photos he'd posted in earlier videos. I remember seeing some of those photos when he first posted them and thinking, meh. Sometimes you look at a photo the second time around and say to yourself "what was I thinking?".

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I am the same as you Graham, I learn so much more from my bad photos. I shall look for opportunities to share them in future but on this occasion I am keeping this one to myself. Hope you understand.

Another great video and I see it like you, Chris. And I find, making mistakes is so important, because it's the easiest way to improve photography. We should embrace making mistakes :) To your question to an advice when making mistakes: If you're down, another good way to keep your confidence is by looking at your winner photos. One more reason to print them and hang them up onto your wall ;)

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent advice Christian - I have just had a picture shelf put up in my office so I can put up some of my favourite images.

Class video Chris. As ever, the honesty you share is refreshing. Someone said to me years ago that you learn nothing from your good images - from the images that make it into your portfolio. Where you do learn is from every image that doesn't quite make it.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Huw - if that is the case then I certainly have lots of images that I can learn from! :)

@huwalban

4 жыл бұрын

You and me both then @@ChrisSalePhoto :)

Love your channel Chris nearly as much as I love the Lake but that picture has just blown me away. Keep it up fantastic work .

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard, that is very kind of you to say.

Beautiful picture you got there! It really worked! Everyone makes mistakes, and getting confidence back after can be hard, depending on how big the mistake was. I'm not only talking about photography here, but about confidence in general. But I think the only way of getting your confidence back, is to go for it again. Whatever it was that knocked you down, if you care about it, try it again.. Cause if you don't, you might end up regretting it for the rest of your life.. Try it over and over again, and someday it will work. If you want it bad enough, it will happen. This is from a song called "Let it be me" from the Backstreet Boys and Steve Aoki: "Nothing is easy is worth it, nothing that's worth it is perfect", and I think this is the truth..

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Confidence is so important to me in many aspects of my life. My old boss used to say if my confidence was up I was unstoppable. With my business at such an early stage it is important for me to keep my confidence as high as possible.

Enjoyable as always 👍🏻

Beautiful Images and great video! Cheers!

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Colin

your persistence is inspiring - keep going Chris! - loving your work..

Ansel used a stepladder or shot at the top of his wagon. Loved the final lake shot.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I saw a short video by Charlie Waite on Twitter where he talked about doing the same thing. Interesting approach.

Nice video Chris! Never been a fan of Tewet tarn photos but it looks like you timed it right there, great photo!

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Adam - me neither mate. That is by far and away the best image that I have got at Tewet Tarn.

What a cracking image mate👍🏻 stunning conditions! We certainly all do make some corkers some more than others lol 😂

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Certainly do mate!

Yes, Mistakes can and will happen for all of us. As Murphy's Law states: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." And then there's also O'Toole's corollary: "That damned Murphy was such an optimist!" But as Chris adeptly reminds us, we can learn from and overcome both Murphy and O'Toole.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

"I am human, too bloody human!" - Peter O'Toole :)

Lovely vlog Chris 😁

Great advice Chris, photography trips do not always go as planned!! The best thing you can do is, to keep trying until it works. For the photo, it looks amazing with that snow on the hills!!! Maybe I need to come over in the winter some day!!

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I would look forward to that mate - I had such a good time when you were over here last year. :)

You’re the best at entering in the human element. The way you look at the camera and explain your thought process is uncanny. When I make mistakes I just try harder to do better and learn from those mistakes. The photo was exquisite.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan, very kind of you to say so.

The 6D (mark I) will take moderate rain for an hour at least (tried and tested :-) before it starts malfunctioning. Then you let it dry by itself and it is as good as new. Of course if you can protect it so much the better. But do not worry too much about it. I have been impressed in general with how durable it has been for a 'prosumer' model after a decade of dust, bumps, rain, etc.Nice photos by the way.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up Dimitris, I shall bear it in mind in future.

That shot worked. Good remove felling all the other trees, so just that one in the composition.

Great video Chris, Most mistakes I make are usually to do with settings on camera, forgetting to set white balance, wrong ISO,leaving the stabilization on. Simply stunning image would grace any wall.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi John, shot selection is a huge part of photography. Someone of my experience should have realised that the composition was all wrong! :)

That last shot is stunning, well done per usual.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark

Very interesting vlog Chris, I wouldn't mind betting your worse shots are better than my best shots.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt that very much John - when I get it wrong, boy do I get it wrong! :)

Brilliant shot Chris. Well worth coming back for. It’s great advice and a point that’s quite pertinent for me at the moment was my last trip out was quite the flop!

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi mate - sorry to hear that your last trip out was a flop, not the 52 assignments video? It's on my watch later list. Hoping to get to is soon.

Hi Chris, although not the first to comment, I reckon i was the first to view at 18 seconds after upload! I thought your Tewit Tarn image was really lovely and just hope no one says you should have been higher to get the reeds out of the reflected mountain :-). I do find split-toning a bit like Marmite for me. I would say you haven't used it here and if you have, it's very much to my taste because I can't tell? I agree 100% about learning from mistakes having just cocked up on my last film with a terrible image, but may still release it! It takes a brave photographer to show it on this platform! One thing I do slightly differently is the way I run workshops. I don't put the photographer on a composition. I generally take them to the locations where like you, I know there is a good image, but encourage them to find the sweet-spot themselves by guiding them in a way the aren't aware of. Making them work it out with just a nudge here and there as needed allows them to become more aware of what they should be looking for when they are alone! Perhaps I misinterpreted ?

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

We all have different approaches Simon. For each workshop and 1-2-1 I always start with composition that I know works. This allows me to discuss how all of the elements combine within the frame and helps to get the session off to a good start. After that I encourage people to explore other shots for themselves, stepping in to offer guidance as and when necessary. Starting with a 'winner' helps to build confidence. It is a technique I used when running courses in my previous life.

Excellent message. How do we learn if not from mistakes?!. Stunning image.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

That is very true Susan and I certainly have a lot to learn from if you get my meaning.

I recently spent a weekend at a coastal beach area with my photography club. First morning up for the spectacular sunrise. I thought I had the shot of the year. No. Looked at it on computer, too long a shutter speed and water was just a mass of light. Quite depressed but you could just have to get on with it. Tried next day & got quite a good shot. Confidence restored. Like riding a horse, if you fall off just get back on again. It is all you can do. But you must. Great video as usual and a great help.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I think we all know what this feels like Donald. Pleased to hear that you tried again the very next day and came away with something that your were happier with.

Those pesky reeds. A very good image Chris! Been watching for a while, subscribed and the notification bell clicked!

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Len

Interesting to hear you talk about mistakes, because that's the theme I've been exploring on my channel - how I don't give up on dog agility when so much is going wrong. One way I use mistakes is - I bottle them up for future reference just to see how far I've come and see all the progress I've done. Our own progress often gets lost in everyday lives and it's very healthy to look back sometimes and realize how much better you're now than you were, so that's why I keep some evidence of my own mistakes. And, off course, there's the practical aspect of learning from mistakes - really analyse why that thing doesn't work, what aspects of it doesn't work and don't repeat the mistake or even better - attempt to do almost the same thing but now with some tweaks in place that makes it better. Anyway - no real creativity can exist without mistakes and although they tend to be painful at the time, they really do help us in the long run.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I really interesting approach. I shall have a think to see if there is a way that I can apply that to my photography.

Loved the Tewet Tarn image Chris and i rather liked the reeds in the photo i think they gave it a little something extra and as far as Your previous days mistakes go ,What looks bad to one doesn’t always to another. Keep the video’s coming 👍🏻 .

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Joy, I think as photographers we have to be happy with the images that we share with others. I certainly wouldn't share something that I don't like on the off chance that someone else does.

Another fascinating video Chris , a shame you didnt show the image though. I think as viewers we mighht have learnt more from seeing it and you explaining where you felt it went wrong. But good insight.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I am looking at ways that I can share my images that didn't work but this one was just too bad to share.

MIxed feelings here. I can't say I follow you on a regular basis. I don't know maybe it's your hair.....LOL. No it's just me not you at all. But I did enjoy this video as you talked about failure and trying again. Maybe I'm in the same spot at this time(?). Anyway you keep on doing what you do!

Hello Chris. It is always interesting to hear how you use your profession as a photographer to refine your senses. At the same time as I myself see that there is a motive, I also see after your reflection that it was perhaps not a motive. Or was it maybe one? Your energy coming out of your videos is contagious so that I started my first attempt on Saturday to make a video and uploaded it today. it is not perfect, far from it, but I uploaded it as motivation to do better next time. What i want to say is that the bad results are not only negative, actually more positive because they spur us on. The self-criticism we have spurs us on at the next opportunity to do it better. Greetings from Norway

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jörg, I am so pleased to hear that you have had a go at creating a video yourself. I have added it to my watch list and look forward to seeing it soon.

You're a constant inspiration mate! You're the reason I drove from Glasgow to visit 3 lakes, a couple of weeks ago. Thank you for being so inspiring! "Canon speak for; Don't leave it out in the rain" - amazing! 😂 The shot you came away with is absolutely stunning mate! But, would you be willing to show us what your mistake looks like? So that we can learn what to avoid in shots? (or was it a case of trying to get too many items of interest in one shot?)

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Rhys - glad to hear that you made the trip to the Lakes, how did you get on? I will have to think about how best I can share my less successful images so that you can learn from my mistakes.

I'd really like to see you using some longer focal lengths and picking out some details. Gorgeous area!

I found this cool geological scene(A big rock perched on a pin point). I've been there twice shooting it and so far nothing good. I guess I learned that something might be interesting but not photogenic.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I think that is probably true Jeff - but sometimes a little bit of persistence can pay off. Perhaps focus on other subjects for a little bit and try again in a few weeks time.

Hi Chris, generaly we all do mistakes. But that does not matter when you know what was wrong and learn from it. You try a new comosition and it does not work for you or you are not pleased with it. I think this is not a mistake. Thank you for your videos chris. Many greetings from the seven mountains. Frank

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank - I see what you are saying. Generally I come away with at least one shot from a shoot that I am happy with share with others so when I don't perhaps it is all to easy to overreact.

Could you do a vid on exposure compensation sometime plz as you seem to be a bit of a guru on this and have said previously that you are a manual exposure shooter. This is something I have struggled with a bit. Cheers.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Alex - I don't use exposure compensation as I shoot in full manual. I use the live view histogram to make sure that I have the correct shutter speed and am not clipping the highlights.

A beautiful scene indeed and tricky. I know you like reflections but The mountains were gorgeous and I wondered if you’d either stepped back 10 feet and used the grasses or got down low what that would have produced. I’d also agree, push your comfort zone and try some longer detail or abstract shots. I think pushing our comfort zone is just as important to growth. Thanks for sharing.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Val - I didn't think about stepping back. Generally I like to keep my compositions as simple and as clean as possible. Dropping lower caused the reeds to cut even further into the reflections which as something that I wanted to avoid. I do think that a shot of Blencathra on it's own has huge potential but for that I am thinking of climbing up Clough Head, which is the mountain directly opposite it.

Chris, are you going to stay in the Lake District or would you consider Scotland or Iceland etc?

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Michelle - at the moment, while I am establishing the business, I want to focus on the Lake District. Who knows what the future holds but for the time being I am just enjoying working every day in my local area.

Belter of a shot!

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Cat - I was pleased with it.

As for tips - I wouldn't call 'bad' photographs 'mistakes' - this adds a negative tone to what is essentially a key part of any learning experience. You sometimes have to try and see what works. If we got amazing pictures every time photography wouldn't be the challenge it is. 'Stepping stones' - that is what your photographs are - if you are lucky you keep going forwards but learning isn't a linear thing - we sometimes have to go backwards to eventually progress.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, bad photographs are not necessarily mistakes but mistakes do often lead to bad photographs. I love the stepping stones analogy, a wonderful way of looking at things.

In any walk of life mistakes are made and indeed have catastrophic effects. Its important to know it's just an image and can easily be retaken. In the world of digital it costs nothing but time. I personally ruined a wedding shoot using film many years ago...ouch...but it didn't stop me doing more.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Really Nigel? Ouch! So glad that it didn't stop you from doing more.

With regard to the mistake/opportunity to learn, why not revisit it, use the same or very similar composition then play with it some, try adjusting various aspects; depth of field, unusual emphasis, lighting, composite scenes and see if there's another approach that works for those conditions #pushtheenvelope

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Good point and something that I will try at some point. But personally at this stage of my development I am keen to avoid wasted time 'flogging a dead horse'.

Canon 6D is not weather sealed?

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I am afraid not Teddy, and I am not taking any chances.

Very philosophical Chris, sometimes your favourite shot might not be everyone’s and conversely your “duds” might find an audience. Don’t overlook the power of cropping the images from your “moderately weather sealed Canon” :) but yes nothing wrong with a bit of self critique .

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Chris - there are some images that even cropping won't save.

I think you are being too hard on yourself. I don't think it is a mistake to not come away with a decent image. Sometimes conditions are just not conducive to good photographs and compositions don't always work - not a mistake but a hazard of the occupation. Really like the final image. The 6D is remarkably resilient in my experience. I've dropped mine into a peat bog (it disappeared and I had to fish around to find it), had to wash mud off with a water bottle and only yesterday it got totally soaked in a blizzard - never missed a beat.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Really James? That is good to hear. I am a little precious with my 6D because of the issues it would cause if I was without it for any period of time.

Most of what I’ve learnt has been down to my mistakes that taught me not to do it again.

I think my best tip would be to not get too hung up on the failures, I'm terrible like that myself and have the past few months worked on changing the way I think, instead of nitpicking on every single little detail in every shot. Always looking for mistakes or something that's "not good" in my images.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

That is very interesting Steffen - it's a very difficult balance to get write. It is necessary to critique our images in order to improve but being too critical is likely to have a negative impact.

@TheNeffen

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisSalePhoto absolutely, we need to be critical, I think thats very important but we should (or atleast I have to) learn to draw the line at some point instead of basically thinking myself down =)

I wouldn't class a suboptimal composition as a mistake rather a learning experience. Besides the obvious technical mistakes, perhaps realizing that focus stacking was required or multiple exposures needed are more mistake than a poor composition. I believe that analyzing what is good or not so good in a composition on the computer helps next time you are out. Another technique that I do is examine an image to see if there was a better composition within the frame, so I try different crops after the fact. Perhaps your 4 element composition would be great with 3 or 2 1/2 instead. I confess though that I am much more a mid telephoto landscape photographer than the wide vista so I am always looking to bring out specific elements of a scene. That image you too is excellent.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Mark, interesting to hear your perspective. My whole approach to photography is based on reviewing shots and returning at a later date to fine tune the composition.

for me it's usually a photo that looks good on my camera but when I get it on my computer screen, it lost it's appeal. Sometimes a good view doesn't always make a good photograph

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

That is definitely true - what looks good to the eye doesn't always translate to a photo.

Usualy I make mistakes (in every domain) when I'm feeling in a rush. Photographing should be done in a relaxing way ..... taking time for all technical and other elements.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you there Rene - take your time and concentrate on what you are doing, which was my problem on this occasion.

you wouldn’t be human if you didn’t mess up mate, i recently went to thailand took a hat full of pictures that look ok on the back of the camera, low and behold back on the computer they looked awful.

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

I agree Russell - to err is human and all that. But on this occasion the image was shockingly bad, well below the standard that I have set for myself.

5:26 Or they are successfully finding things that don't work (~Thomas Edison I believe)

you are learning in a very public way so sometimes images maybe difficult for you to access. Your bench mark is so high. Stop beating yourself up. work is excellent. Accept your human and stop wearing your Heart on your sleeve. get out of the other side of the bed. Enjoy LIFE

@ChrisSalePhoto

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Stephen - I hear you but that is not as easy to do as you might think. But that is sound advice so thank you, I will try.