Esto es lo que pasa cuando un todoterreno no cuenta con bloqueos.Con solo una rueda que quede en el aire se acabó la tracción. Buen vídeo demostrativo

@lucasliberal538

4 жыл бұрын

Tiene razón, me parece más divertido y barato un Citroën Mehari...

Disco 2 would do it easily with its Centre Diff locked and traction control (even models without CDL would do it). The reason the shorty Defender did it easily was when progress was halted he engaged a diff locker (probably rear) ....you could hear the air compressor for the locker working...then it drove straight through. Nothing magical. Cheers

@dieselrules7912

2 жыл бұрын

At the end having manually controllable diff locks is much of a necessity.

Both cars do it very easy using the differential locked.

That first LandRover was so good. Would defo own 1

I was waiting for one of them to roll over. That first bit looks nasty!

@JKmanglerCRD

9 жыл бұрын

That is the unfortunate side effect of having radius arms on the front suspension. They dont like to let the axle articulate as that causes binding. As soon as the weight comes off the front wheel thats compressed they unload causing the vehicle to lurch over. 4 link jeep suspension "quadralink" is superior.

That's why I like locker diff it's so awesome

There's magical thing called a diff lock that may make that about half a million times easier.

@landcruisertoy9667

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Wang Diff lock make no difference for the landrover. ONly axle lockers !! Stock on landcruiser HDJ80 in Belgium. i have for sale.

@kevinwang1844

8 жыл бұрын

+Landcruiser Toy Since the stock defender only has a center diff lock you install the proper diff lock. that thing that locks the axle. and was that an ad or something?

@stuarthotchkiss3669

4 жыл бұрын

The LR difflcok has no practical use and merely ensures you get 50:50 power to front and back. Useless in practice

@vidarsblade

4 жыл бұрын

@@stuarthotchkiss3669 in some areas of the world diff locknrefers to something like an arb or detroit locker or an e locker. its a eegional dialect difference.

@mikeb53

3 жыл бұрын

@@stuarthotchkiss3669 Well, if you're only using your LR for road driving then yeah, the diff lock is useless... But if you do go off tarmac with it, then no, its not useless. Far from it in fact. Also, this myth that it "splits power 50:50" is simply not true, you see it in hundreds of videos and thousands of comments about Land Rovers. The diff lock, forces both front, and rear drive shafts to rotate at identical speeds. The front axle and the rear axle get full power each not half power each.

Depends on how you drive it

The first fella did a nice bit of driving.

@ValiantVision

7 жыл бұрын

This obstacle favored a shorter wheel-base.

@ryanfranco4645

7 жыл бұрын

ValiantVision

Very useful for talking the children to school

you guys ever hear of lockers? HOLY Crap this would drive me ape shit

cool review

Cool!

lock your diffs!

@petert9696

4 жыл бұрын

They don't have lockers

@yo2748

4 жыл бұрын

@@petert9696 yes they have one

@petert9696

4 жыл бұрын

@@yo2748 well yes, only a centre diff but no axle lockers

@yo2748

4 жыл бұрын

@@petert9696 I know

Nice Landy brother...

Mucho mejor el nuevo Jimmy simplemente porque tiene control de tracción que sustituye al bloqueo de diferenciales.

nice demonstration.

Very simple equation... td5 ( the first car ) is a piece a junk engine and transmission specially first gen up to 2002 yet it had traction control that's why it goes over it as the wheels don't spin when lifted . 300 tdi is the most reliable defender EVER MADE specially if you have the Wolf Version ( transmission and engine are forever ) if maintained. The Disco one with the 300tdi engine is the same story as the 300 tdi Defender... no traction control. To solve the problem you can add diff locks on front and rear axles and it will be way better than the traction control of the td5. I hope my comment explains it for the affectionado :)

@Fede-Land

Жыл бұрын

td5 traction control??? ahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha ok bro

@Fede-Land

Жыл бұрын

defender td5, you can find engine with 800.000 km still running. I love all defender, we have all the same passion and addiction, why you use bad word's for a car who made the history? just remember the td5 is the last car made all in england...i'm very proud of my defender td5

somebody say open the diflocks but , this trucks dont have differential locks on rear and front axles. just have center differential lock on transmission. if install arb airlock on front and rear axles, there is no problem for in this situation. first truck has arb dif lock. i heard the compressor sound :)

@Ben31337l

8 жыл бұрын

+Mühendis Keşifte if you don't have difflocks on the axles, then you can simply gently apply the brakes, the brakes would apply on all 4 wheels, but it would stop two lifted wheels from spinning freely.

@alexcole8438

8 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about this but and I thought that because the amount of torque sent to the grounded wheel is proportional to the amount of braking force on the spinning wheel and the brakes will clamp evenly on both sides, the benefit would be negated.

So interesting !!!!!!

Just take good care drivers

And also the discovery is equipped with a diff lock from the manufacturer

@kevinlovelock3979

4 жыл бұрын

Both are fitted with centre diff lock from factory

The disco looks like it's had a lift and was close to hitting the step at one point

not really the difference between them, more like with & without air locker

Would like to have seen something like a 2003/4 Discovery2 with the traction control at play.

@yo2748

4 жыл бұрын

Discovery 1 is way better offroad

Td5 with ETC?

amazing

Gracias

Video showing why lockers are vital

LOCK THE FUCKING DIFF

@jamesrothwell8693

9 жыл бұрын

They can't it's a Land Rover, open front and rear diffs. This is why the rest of the world uses Landcruisers.

@rhythmisgoodforyou

9 жыл бұрын

James Rothwell Open til you engage diff lock. Then it's locked. I refer you back to theFierce123's original comment.

@Davidrobertwhittaker

9 жыл бұрын

no-one ever does it, but what you need to do there is put a bit of pressure on the brake pedal at the same time as some throttle. It means that the spinning wheels are resisted, forcing some traction to the other two. Easy when you know how!

@thefierce123

9 жыл бұрын

That's a good tip!

@fadjarroosdianto6079

9 жыл бұрын

James Rothwell Yes they can...they have centre diff lock! And if it is engaged it wouldn't be a problem at all in that kind of obstacle. I think in this case they were not allowed to engaged diff lock to rise the challenge.

Я не пойму, они что без межосевых блокировок?

Why didn't the tdi lock diffs?

👍👍👍

nego nao sabe o que é bloqueio de diferencial nao? where is the diff lock for those lands?

The first 2 are the same landrover 90 the 3 and old discovery they all need to use diff lock this is what its their for , unbelievable how many people buy 4x4 and can't drive ,

@mikegraham1282

4 жыл бұрын

Centre diff locked won't help in this situation, need axle locks or traction control

difflock !

...Vs land cruiser or mk2 pajero / shogun with standard rear diff locks and a front locker bought with the money saved.

Landrover = King of cars🚙👑

Traction control applys the brakes electronically to the spinning wheels to send power to the wheels on the ground ,so what do you do if you have no traction control PRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL LIGHTLY you don't need diff locks

@gngillespie

9 жыл бұрын

but with them that cross-axle ramp gets a whole lot simpler & safer!! using traction not momentum especially when weight is shifting sideways

@Landybandy1

6 жыл бұрын

Traction control only applies brake to spinning wheels. Manually applying foot brake will brake all four. It may to some extent stop the wheels in the air spinning but also stop the wheels wanting to power out. Resulting in going nowhere in a hurry.

Real defender not like new barbie ones

i hear air lockers on the shorty td5 defender

@tungstentwohundredandtwent7007

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Lavelle so do I! The familiar tone of an ARB compressor

@landrover1155

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on...cheers

@FEGTTTSDH

3 жыл бұрын

Traction control just that.

@jasonlavelle3293

3 жыл бұрын

@@FEGTTTSDH not sure if your being sarcastic? But you can hear the compressor before it begins moving again.

If it was a T2 Syncro it wouldn`t happen to have wheel spin

Not exactly a fair name to this video.. The First defender (td5) had Diff lockers that he engaged after his failed attempt..

@MrNeild123

4 жыл бұрын

Scottexpat no he had traction control no difflocks,wheels are clearly seen being braked by abs module,get your facts in order dude

@Javier-OlCrazy-Santiago

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNeild123 Rear air locker is clearly connected just after first attempt. Pay attention to the sound...

@stuarthotchkiss3669

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNeild123 The ABS module stops wheels when the brake is NOT applied? Doubt it

@stuarthotchkiss3669

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNeild123 ABS RELEASES brakes when the wheels lock, not the other way round. I am sure that the ABS components could be used to provide wheel locking but since it is LR they will find the least obvious, most expensive and most useless solution as you can see in the video. Some years ago LR had a big campagign against the BMW X-drive system saying it was useless and would wear out the brakes. They pretend to have the same system now on the Discovery but it certainly doesn't work on mine. The myth of landrovers being good off road is just that - a myth

@capitaldd5840

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrNeild123 looks like your the one that needs to get your facts in order..dude.

Why would you upload a video with a bloody finger obscuring the lens all the time?

Hah... That's the driver not the vehicle!

Забудь кэмэл трофи.

I think they cnt drive

with the electronic traction control you must keep the power on so the computer will apply brakes to the spinning wheels then traction will be had at the grounded wheels ,,,, MAYBE GET SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE

get ya finger out the way

just use your diff-lock !

@Zapo9668

4 жыл бұрын

Landrovers dont have difflock...

@thelandrovermaniac5334

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zapo9668 only a center locker

@Zapo9668

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelandrovermaniac5334 that's not gonna help here...

@thelandrovermaniac5334

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zapo9668 it will

@jon3de

4 жыл бұрын

@@Zapo9668 it would help! But Defender has only center diff lock

Any situation like this in nature? i dont think so many , you have all the chance to drive obstacels from several directions (maybe some degrees) to give your wheels more traction.You must first to learn driving without axel lockers than you come to be a verry experienced 4x4 driver i think.

@franktechmaniac7488

4 жыл бұрын

It justs simulates a situation where on wheels on each axle has no or very few traction.

يجب خفض الهواء بالكفرات

Discovery 2 would have done that with ease

Parking brake would have helped if there was no differential lock.

@sfrerku

8 жыл бұрын

+mightymikee Not that sure about that, since parking brake works on the center differential, not on the wheels (at least in my 1992 2.5 petrol defender)

@mightymikee

8 жыл бұрын

+Sebastián Frerk You are right. I forgot rovers have parking brake at the rear output shaft. Well, logic still applies, rear wheels spin, then give power to the front by locking the rear.

@sfrerku

8 жыл бұрын

yeah, it would still work like a center diff lock (kind of) but not too good I'm afraid, since it is not a disc brake, it's a drum brake. It'd still be better just to lock the diff

Por favor quita el dedito delante del objetivo de la camara

No tiene bloqueos

Try that in any other standard vehicles....

el land rover esta en blokeo de diferenciales

Need locking diffs

@fadjarroosdianto6079

8 жыл бұрын

+Edad Martin Maybe it was a test for the drivers not the car.

This is all about learning to drive your vehicle. Of course lockets would do it easy but that's not the point. A 110 would have done that easier.

@josephdollimore2466

9 жыл бұрын

Nik Marinkovic maybe a 130 would do it even easier :p

@josephdollimore2466

9 жыл бұрын

***** and dif lock?

@mattclose1439

9 жыл бұрын

Nik Marinkovic I think the lesson here is... Lockers

@brackipas

9 жыл бұрын

Igor K I think the lesson here is to learn the limitations, and drive accordingly. You build skills this way. I only use my lockers if necessary to keep safety as a priority.

Cdl white def

This proves that son can never beat father I.e discovery can't beat defender

Why the fuck are they not using diff lock?!

Which one won??

@foxhq9577

9 жыл бұрын

I would say the defender 90 (first one) did it in the quickest time.

@MattHughes_89

7 жыл бұрын

TD5 (first one) I'd say

Si no te gusta te jodes para que los ves

Cómo Toyota jamas

Cualquier todo-terreno sin bloqueo de diferenciales no sirve para mucho, son una " mentira"...

Prefiero empujar un Land Rover que conducir un Toyota

@brackipas

9 жыл бұрын

my favourite saying.

@luiscarlosrojasmeneghel6415

7 жыл бұрын

vas a empujar mucho... tengo los 2

@je1966

4 жыл бұрын

Hay que ser realistas, un Toyota tiene mucha más calidad y mucha más historia que Land Rover. Y a mi me gustan ambos.

@inakirubalcabacoyote7201

4 жыл бұрын

J E Todo tiene su encanto

@je1966

4 жыл бұрын

Iñaki Rubalcaba Coyote Por supuesto, y eso es totalmente subjetivo. A mi me gustan ambos.

Frustrating to watch people that don't know how to carry a little momentum

Sniff! gie us a 1980's "G" Wagen any day, simples!

@antonyhoward2759

4 жыл бұрын

where are the 80s g wagon videos

@marcusgault9909

4 жыл бұрын

@@antonyhoward2759 Parked ootside ma hoose, 3 LWB fully road legal, an a wee 1984 SWB aboot to go through the MOT, all diesel.

Use diff lock, even I know that 🤦🏾‍♂️

@mattjones1992

4 жыл бұрын

Moss they don’t have axle lockers standard.

Para ser vehiculos tan caros land rover deberia haber montado al menos 1 diferencial mas en estos modelos ,bien trasero o delantero. El interior deja mucho que desear en cuanto a comodidad.

@ricardosaborido6924

2 жыл бұрын

Si quieres te paso la dirección de la fabrica, para que le expliques que hicieron todo mal, que te escuchen a ti que eres el que sabe.

Open diffs

es würde schon reichen wenn man n fahren kann…..

Мне кажется я тут на калине легко бы проехал

.

Shame

jeep baby

@offroadextreme5112

7 жыл бұрын

lrgman1313 land rover baby*

Cut that finger off

Watching these things fail sure makes me glad I bought a Jeep.

@thelandrovermaniac5334

4 жыл бұрын

Urm yeah but atleast we dont roll down banks becuse our landrovers are bottom heavy and jeeps are top heavy

@EZapar

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelandrovermaniac5334 ?? lol

@thelandrovermaniac5334

4 жыл бұрын

@@EZapar every offroad video ive seen whit a jeep in it they ither have a lucky escape or roll over not saying there bad just saying there a bit top heavy and you wont have that problem with a good old defender also if it did flip you can unbolt the roofs and bulk heads and tubs to replace them

@EZapar

4 жыл бұрын

@@thelandrovermaniac5334 You've googled the wrong vids. I haven't posted any for awhile, but if you look at my page, you can see my Jeep not falling over. :)

@thelandrovermaniac5334

4 жыл бұрын

@@EZapar yeah but your not doing too extreme of climbs

stupid car

Buy a Toyota

Worst cameramen ever

Puny bland rovers

Boooring

Once more demonstrating how useless Landrovers are off-road. Why is one wheel spinning and the other not? The spinning wheel should be braked and power transferred to the other on the same axle. The central diff lock is of no practical use anyway and you can easily end up stuck in two inches of snow with one wheel on each axle spinning. Useless. Buy a Landcruiser or a Tesla

@franktechmaniac7488

4 жыл бұрын

stuart hotchkiss do you really believe, that brake action can drive your car? The real thing is transversal diff locks. Otherwise your brakes are fryed in a minute.