I like the fact it has a slightly more narrow shorter footprint for operating in more tight inner city spaces.

@derbusfahrer9650

4 ай бұрын

Well i think thats bcs its based of the German Version ( Rosenbauer RT) which was build to alos fit in our old City Centers

Finally I've seen a US firetruck with a quick supply 1" high pressure line..

@CBB-dg9jy

2 жыл бұрын

Talking with someone old timers who used to run high pressure I would really like to see some UL research on the topic.

@Sarge084

3 ай бұрын

A high pressure hose reel on both sides of British fire appliances is standard Home Office specification. When I was a fireman the hose reel was first choice in over 70% of call outs.

@billpizzaman4700

Ай бұрын

UHP Is the way. I would like to see more UHP on rapid response vehicles

As a mechanic who has worked on many firetrucks to include diesel and gasoline I am sure the firefighters will love it because they love bells and whistles on shiny things. There is just more to go wrong with this and I am sure it is much more expensive to buy and maintain. More money than brains come to mind.

@stevengunter4990

3 ай бұрын

Its more expensive because its electric, but if you compare apples to apples than a standard european firetruck is cheaper than an american one......

@EnjoyFirefighting

3 ай бұрын

maintenance costs are kept low due to low downtime and few visits at the repair shop. Less wear and tear ...

You forgot to show how those LED panels on the sides can light up a street at night. It's stunning every time.

i love how the seats swivel, easier to face each other and thank each other for their service!! love it!!

@wurmiron

2 жыл бұрын

What he didnt mention, inwards facing seats are saver, since flip-overs are the most likly cause of injury

@WorldTravelA320

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention with the tablets, they can keep watching soap operas enroute to pulling Grandma's cat out of the tree

@e4mafia_tn

2 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣 best comment 🏆

@benjaminh958

Жыл бұрын

That's really all first responders do, thank each other and pat each other on the back.

@riff2072

Жыл бұрын

Have to love the 129 thumbs up for the sarcasm.

I drove a fire engine for 29 years. Believe me this one is awesome! Wish I could drive and pump this one !!

What an awesome machine! I'm just an enthusiastic bystander in the industry, but the ability to just leave the truck "ON" seems like a huge advantage versus the old fleet. Since BEVs are using so little power idling, it seems very clever to have them one step closer to being ready to roll out of the firehouse and save some seconds when they count.

Awesome what an incredible fire truck,would love to see one up close.

@LauRoot892

Жыл бұрын

Yep

Damn, a modern austrian fire-truck in America 😳😳😳😳 I really didn't see THAT comming....

The Inner cab is pretty bad ass Kinda like the spartan big cabs

@American-pl8fo

Жыл бұрын

the whole truck itself is ewww

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the future

@ffjsb

5 ай бұрын

Stupid Ca., no SCBA in the seats...

@finn7750

3 ай бұрын

​@@American-pl8foAmerica RAAAAAA The only country where looks matter over function

@American-pl8fo

3 ай бұрын

@@finn7750 its ugly

Beautiful firetruck 😍

Looks awesome goodjob guys .

Watch in a year from now LA is going to announce they are switching to the European style helmets 😂

@jonase6339

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@d.w.d.w.3031

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! And no Q2Bs, just a whiny hi-low brit sound.

@WLAs_Finest3x

2 жыл бұрын

@@d.w.d.w.3031 I used to like that European hi-lo. They need to bring that back, but all this new stuff, these electronic sirens, the abbreviated dept name letters on the back of the turnout coats, this isn't FDNY. LAFD needs to keep most things traditional.

@d.w.d.w.3031

2 жыл бұрын

@@WLAs_Finest3x Amen to that! Pierce has been testing an electric Fire Engine in Madison, WI for the last 3 months and it's performing like a champ. And it looks like a real, American fire engine, it has real manual valves, and also boast a Q2B on its bumper! I can only hope that if LA embraces electric, they will turn to American manufacturers like Pierce. or will insist that a Euro brand NOT look like an RV made for a road trip.

@WLAs_Finest3x

2 жыл бұрын

@@d.w.d.w.3031 yeah, this thing does look like an RV. Lol

Holy Shit, that actually looks super cool

Can't wait to see the response videos of this

Love this FireTruck

How are the mirror cameras legal? Is it because it’s an emergency vehicle? Regular trucks and cars aren’t allowed to have that yet in the US.

@Democracy_Officer2

3 ай бұрын

I want mirror cams

@EnjoyFirefighting

3 ай бұрын

mirror cams exist on large semi trucks and also cars over here for years already ... not sure if there are any in the US and Canada though

I can see the "adjustable suspension" putting the unit out of service often, as well as the pump by wire "feature"

@Knallteute

4 ай бұрын

Nah dude Air suspension is a standart feature of comercial trucks so its dependable.

@EnjoyFirefighting

3 ай бұрын

not a problem at all; Was running at the busiest stations in Berlin already, had less downtime at the repair shop than an ordinary diesel powered fire truck (which btw doesn't have air suspension)

@SGWChaosteam

3 ай бұрын

@@EnjoyFirefighting And as a german firefighter i can confirm that this truck was ideal for Berlin. They have a really high callout volume and even higher percentage of urban building fires compared to other big german cities. They also are, with Frankfurt am Main, a city which has a similar system as US Departments, with smaller but therefore significantly more stations all over Berlin. While other german career departments often have big stations with a lot of trucks and personel using the "Löschzug"-Tactic (2 trucks, 1 ladder and a small truck with incident commander and digital workspaces), they also now try to use the "single-truck"-tactic, sending only one truck with a low rank officer. For this tactic the Rosenbauer is the right truck. And on big fires it´s supported by the "Löschzug". The Berlin´ers loved it, evem though german firefighters are sometimes as traditional and conservatives as the americans. We have a big fight over new helmets too. Ours are not leather but WW2-era steel-helmets, which are going to be replaced by newer, lighter and modular helmets. Kinda the MICH Low-Cut helmet in a fire version. The older guys hate them and don´t want to replace their old ones.^^

That really impressive

Schönes Fahrzeug 👍🏻

I think booster reels have an unjustified bad reputation. Years back some would pull them on structural fires with of course bad results. But they have a place for small, outside fires like rubbish, brush, etc.

@firefighter11223

2 жыл бұрын

Booster reels have there place. You don’t use them for structure fires whoever told you to do that is an idiot.

@michaelz.7140

2 жыл бұрын

also car fires and dumpster fires

@Bernie0481USMC

2 жыл бұрын

Why I quit training academy for City of Charleston FD prior to Super Sofa Fire. First thing they teach, bragged and lectured about was using boosters for structure fires. NOPE!!! Boosters are great for leaf piles, trash and mulch fires.

@michaelz.7140

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bernie0481USMC never go into a structure with just a fast attack hose (or booster hose) why is it called booster hose when often it is the only hose available? But I have seen firefighters without booster hoses being so slow, that the whole car burned down before they sprayed it with water

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelz.7140 depends on each country and department; Some definetly will go for an interior attack with their booster line

The proof will be how it's performance will be after running service calls because gremlins just love electrical systems but this is one beautiful piece of equipment I must say

@paxundpeace9970

2 жыл бұрын

Berlin used a similiar model of Firetruck with the same system and the tested it in real life. It worked. The biggest issue was the charging station not working. Now the truck is at Rosenbauer for extensive analysis ...

@Ichqwertzu

2 жыл бұрын

To add onto what pax und peace said: This truck is basically the same one that was tested in Berlin, just adapted to the american market. During the 13 month testing period they responded to 1600 calls, driving 14000km (8700mi) in the process. Out of those calls over 95% were handled completely electric! And even though they had some problems charging it at first (partly due to the charging station, but there also was a bad software update at some point), it never went out of service. Overall the Berlin Fireservice was very happy with the performance and they want to purchase more of them. Its obviously impossible to say how it will perform after 10+ years of service, but it does look very promising. Especiallys considering that this was a prototype, so some kinks were to be expected.

@kilodeltaeight

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly expect it will perform very well, given the results in Berlin, and where it’s being used in LA makes perfect sense: at the foot of the Hollywood Hills in Little Armenia. Even the flat, straight roads there are either incredibly narrow and tight or so congested a typical American truck struggles to get through. Once you’re in the hills, the extreme grades and curves flat-out exclude any American-normal truck or engine on size alone, much less on engine power to haul 500-1000 gallons of water up there. Electric traction is going to be revolutionary there. I’m not worried about charging either. Cali and LA have long led the country and arguably world in charging infra for electric cars. If the stations DCFC fails, there are numerous other DCFC chargers within a mile or three, including several owned directly by the city. Indeed, many blocks in the Hollywood area have 1-2 city-owned Level 2 chargers mounted on power poles, meaning the truck could even plug in while on-scene at some incidents, if they wanted.

@johnhill4964

2 жыл бұрын

@@paxundpeace9970 The charging station problem was at one fire house, had nothing to do with the rig. Berlin's stats said the rig ran 90% battery only on runs. They were hoping for 80%.

@capuckett545

2 жыл бұрын

The water tank has already ruptured.

Beautiful truck 🚚

This is pretty awesome

I’m curious about the location of the Diesel engine. Also how much electrical issues it has. Just glad it’s not a Ferrara! Pierce should be another good one that’s on the street now too.

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

it's at the rear top of the truck if I remember correctly; It's a relatively small diesel engine from a BMW

Finally I’ve been waiting for this.

Beautiful!

Very nice vehicle!

I can already say: This vehicle IS a gamechanger! The field test that the fire department of Berlin had with a prototype of a similar vehicle for over a year exceeded every expectation and showed some small things that needed improvement but in the meantime they ordered FIVE vehicles for the regular service. Some of the biggest advantages is the fast acceleration and braking, (Ever seen a Tesla accelerating? Well, this truck can do that too!) the all-wheel-steering what makes the vehicle VERY agile, the big cabin and the larger compartments that allow it that no, or less, equipment needs to be stored on the roof anymore and everything is easy to access.

Is there a reason why the frame has a noticeable flex where all the weight is?

@jphanks

4 ай бұрын

I noticed the Clark County Engine have serious balance issues on turns. The COG seems way off

@MrJimheeren

25 күн бұрын

@@jphanksany idea how heavy those batteries are. These trucks probably have the best road balance on any ICE truck around

Firetrucks are awesome

How much is the purchase price for 1 of these trucks? What is the tareweight? What is the max GVW?

Wow! Very interesting fire engine, I did not expect electric fire engines to appear so quickly. The future is here today, thanks to the Rosenbauer team. It will be interesting to see how she performs in real-life firefighting for years to come 🚒

@AB-ez4rm

Жыл бұрын

Such an environmental hazard this thing is.

@rearspeaker6364

Жыл бұрын

@@AB-ez4rm we know it's guaranteed to catch FIRE!!!

@patricktho6546

4 ай бұрын

@@AB-ez4rm why? Also bc throwing over half of your energy in your tank away is also wastefull and esp with the bad US-exhaust norms, the bigger environmental hazard are the ICE's used in the diesel-fire-trucks

@jackjohnson6230

3 ай бұрын

​@@patricktho6546 did you listen to the video If the battery gets to 20 % a diesel generator kicks in to charge the battery Not so green Also the battery only lasts 3 hours pumping water so if the fire fighters are at a huge fire that takes hours to put out the diesel generator will be running most of the time again not so green

Something I've noticed with almost all American tricks is just how empty they are. Even this thing still has a lot of room left for stuff. Just comparing that to both our trucks, which hold a lot more gear it's baffling how empty American tricks are. for example: our main fire truck has 1800+ feet of hose on board, 2000L of water, one fixed pump, one portable pump, a portable generator, a fixed light mast plus two portable ones, a Ventilator, two ladders, four pumping hoses (larger and stiff to take water from lakes etc.), A small electric pump to clear basements, a plethora of normal tools, two rescue boards, four additional SCBA bottles, a sweeper set, 6x10l canisters of foaming agent, 6x10l canisters of oil binder, a medical bag, one pre-connect, two loops, two additional smaller nozzles plus one larger nozzle, a Monitor, and plenty more which I'm probably forgetting right now.

@theyearwas1473

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds pretty standard for every American fire dept I've seen.

@Micsmit_45

2 жыл бұрын

@@theyearwas1473 if that's the case then why not use smaller, more compact trucks? What's the benefit of using huge ass Trucks with loads and loads of empty space?

Great guys you are catching up to the European Technology. that can operate easier in tight city streets.

Looks great! Idk about the digital mirrors. What if the display malfunctions? Needs a set back up mirrors just in case.

@ryanrichardson5951

Жыл бұрын

Digital mirrors have been a thing in Europe for years now and haven’t seemed to have any major issues. Proven tech as far as I’m aware

@afcgeo882

4 ай бұрын

@@ryanrichardson5951US laws still require physical mirrors, so those have to be retained.

@Gurfi28

4 ай бұрын

Do you have redundancy on a traditional mirror?

@afcgeo882

4 ай бұрын

@@Gurfi28 No. You’re not allowed to operate without a mirror. You are allowed to operate without a camera, however.

@Gurfi28

4 ай бұрын

@@afcgeo882 Wait what? Somehow I doubt that.

Having spent 32 years in the fire service, this new type of mainly electronic apparatus will have constant issues. We had some Rosenbauer ARFF vehicles that were delivered with issues.

@EnjoyFirefighting

3 ай бұрын

it was tested at some of the busiest stations in our capital city. It spent less down time at the repair shop compared to equally brand new diesel powered apparatus based on a commercial chassis

So is the pump directly attached to the Diesel engine or a electric motor?

@culbyj3665

2 жыл бұрын

it seems he stated it is electrically driven.

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

the pump is powered by the battery; The diesel is only required as backup once the battery goes below 20%

@solarissv777

Жыл бұрын

I believe, there is a video where Rosenbauer representative speaks more in depths about RT. AFAIR, he stated, that the engine can be connected directly to the pump via clutch.

@patricktho6546

4 ай бұрын

@@solarissv777 it is directly connected to an electric motor. Maybe they have it as an option for petrolheads

@solarissv777

4 ай бұрын

@@patricktho6546 It is always connected to a generator, and can be connected to pump (directly). I believe, at least the European version can function as a pump only with all electric systems dead.

Did you develop some verity of auto release charging connector so the truck can be charged at the station and automatically disconnect when the parking break is released?

@mtnride4930

Жыл бұрын

It probably has a quick disconnect. just like the exhaust system disconnect for the other equipment

@SGWChaosteam

3 ай бұрын

Isn´t that the case for every vehicle? We have a "Rett-Box" (Rescue-box) in germany, which has one plug for power and high pressure air. It disconnects as soon as you open the drivers door. It´s implemented in every truck and car in our department, even volunteer trucks, and is a standart in germany. I thought it´s just a copy of a us system, as most new firefighting equipment in germany is.

3ft of water? Are all batteries secured and out of water?

I wish we could’ve looked at the Deck Gun and also assemble the Tower Lights. We call them ‘Light & Air’ or ‘Breathing Support’ in CALFIRE. This is an awesome piece of equipment for Commercial, High Rise, & Wide Rise Fires.

Very nice Fire Truck. Greetings from Stuttgart (Germany)

super cool. gonna need tech support!

Nice!

We got a brand new Pierce about 2 years ago and I think 80% of the electrical system has had some kind of failure so far. I can just imagine the frustration when you have a structure fire 5 miles away and your “mirrors” won’t turn on.

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

mirror cams are definetly proven already ... they are used on so many modern commercial trucks. Trucks which might cover more distance in a single month than fire apparatus do in their lifetime. There's not really a problem with them ...

@jamesgizasson

Жыл бұрын

Brace yourself. They're going to 'modernize' everything, whether it's more reliable or not. God, I'm going to miss toggle switches and crank windows!

@mrwonderful2142

Жыл бұрын

I won't even touch a vehicle that's made post Y2K

@TomManning-cs4el

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂I am sure you got to the store

@Joffboff-do1nn

4 ай бұрын

This is a German truck. not some 1950 US electronics... Europe is way ahead in som many ways when it coms to trucks.

I like the designed, time will tell if this is worth it.

@benjamin3615

2 жыл бұрын

It's not. Water tank already ruptured and failed during acceptance testing, lol.

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

Yes uts buy kne

@patricktho6546

4 ай бұрын

@@benjamin3615 the European version succeded with a 1 year test running as a normal engine in the Berlin FD and the acceptance testing etc. So not an EV-issue ;)

@finn7750

3 ай бұрын

​@@benjamin3615I heard it was human error 👀

Did they space the air bags away from the chassis so they do not tear every 18 months like the 2012 models would.

This a interesting GPU, I need it in a DIY camper camper configuration.

Glad to see an American truck with a High pressure attack line. They get used for everything here in Australia, initial attack on a structure fire to mop up for a brush fire.

@MrRCGNL

Жыл бұрын

In NL they're standard for 40+ years

I expected to see blue flashing lights and a hi-lo siren!

@patricktho6546

2 жыл бұрын

that was on earlier prototypes shipped from the EU :D

@jurgenkuhlmann9194

2 жыл бұрын

Awfully sorry! From now on it's "Tatütata in the USA"! All the best!

@Anonymous551656

Жыл бұрын

The blue lights would be an upgrade. The hi-lo, not so much.

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous551656 At least they have a rhythm

Its time for America to step up on firefighting technology.

How hard would it be to have a water edge cutter nozzle running with a permanent magnet motor to cut door hinges and drywalls since the truck have so much juice available?

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

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@Max-cg5fp

Жыл бұрын

Impossible, as magnet motors are not functional in reality.

Wait so how many of these are the LAFD getting ?

@d.w.d.w.3031

2 жыл бұрын

Just one, I hope. Lol.

@MrFlyboy1313

2 жыл бұрын

They have to test the effectiveness of this one first before considering more. They are the chosen Guinea pig. The next 12 months will be interesting

@d.w.d.w.3031

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFlyboy1313 I'm sure you're right. I live in Engine 82's first-in district in Hollywood, Los Angeles, so I'll be a seeing it around the neighborhood a lot, I bet, just as I normally see the traditional Engine 82 making runs all around my area. - Goodness! - Lordy, Lordy, as my grandmother would have said!

@paxundpeace9970

2 жыл бұрын

They will do some testing and then we will see.

@ticky2586

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys for the answers

Good to see innovation in Emergency Services, tradition should never trump operational improvement.

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

Yesvut should

@olsonspeed

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonbraselton3135 "Safety First" aesthetics and tradition are not prime considerations.

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Agreed Olson over here if we had stagnated Firefighters would still be turning up in Engines with pumps controlled on either side, slopped back with escape ladders and firefighters wearing modern tunics and trousers but Cromwell county cork helmets potentially high plummed and in black.

Mixing water and batteries. Sounds like a good idea to me!

Micsmit_45: Interesting comments regarding on-board equipment. I was thinking similar thoughts. What is your Deptartment, i.e. country, city, urban/ suburban/ rural, paid / volunteer/ mix thereof? Is your expansive load out common or are you a specialized unit? Are all your firefighters EMT or your equivalent?

@soup5344

Жыл бұрын

This is being rolled out by the LAFD, more specifically this is first being sent to Station 82 in Hollywood, so almost entirely city and urban. The department budget in 2019 was $691M which is pretty expected of such a large city. I imagine since it's being sent to a station in Hollywood, expensive equipment is a little more common. From what I can see, all firefighters in the department are taught basic life support and evaluating patients for transport but I don't know the specifics of their training.

looking forward to seeing what my city will do with electric vehicles

How long do the batteries last and what are the cost of replacement?

Damn I want to drive with this truck

@sharonbraselton3135

Жыл бұрын

Buy kne

Very cool.

Wow that was one of the most souped up fire trucks I have ever seen

This truly looks like a game changer.

@userokg751

2 жыл бұрын

This is truly a disaster

@pacificcoastfireapparatus8284

2 жыл бұрын

@@userokg751 it’s ok e-one got us covered at least look wise

Air packs not in the seats? Or are they covered by the cushion?

@paxundpeace9970

2 жыл бұрын

Wondering too. The German one hat them integrated.

@josephbrosius7255

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard of places going to "clean cab" with no gear in the cab but didn't think LA would waste that much time

@solarissv777

Жыл бұрын

@@josephbrosius7255 I like the Dutch solution for this: after the fire a support van comes, takes all the turnouts for cleaning, provides clean ones, brings full air bottles and takes the empty. They also seem to help deconing the SCBAs themselves. Or, and they also bring drinking water, coffee and snacks. This seem to be much more reasonable, then to delay firefighters by putting their gear in external storage.

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

The newer Irish ones have such space for dirty gear and storage for spineboards and extra bottles outside the cab interior.

What does "2 hours of operation" mean? How is that measured? How long can it pump on battery alone, or what is the pump capacity on battery alone?

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

60 to 90 minutes pumping on battery alone

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

At least you could always plug it in to a street charger

Not a firefighter, so outsider question. How cost effective is this truck compared to a traditional diesel, particularly with regard to longevity? What is the anticipated life span of the batteries & cost of replacement? Could this actually be the most effective EV application where batteries have an 8-12 year anticipated life span?

@intellectualredneck1813

10 ай бұрын

This vehicle would cost 2-3 times as much as a tradissional diesel truck. It's a HUGE waste of tax payers dollars and a prime example why LA is filled with homeless and crime.

@claasengelbart2268

9 ай бұрын

@@intellectualredneck1813 🤦‍♂Thats totally Bullshit...

@billdavis2439

4 ай бұрын

It’s not none of this is. These guys blow more money. Buy more ambulances as 90 percent of the calls are car accidents not fires.

@Tetadeux

4 ай бұрын

a typical ICE engine will need a full rebuid after (on average) 133k miles, and the average EV battey will now comfortably last 200k miles or 15-20 years... thats increasing litterally year on year. To answer the cost question - $1.2m, average pump truck is about $1m so only slightly more.. that cost should fall over time.

@Texaca

4 ай бұрын

​​@@Tetadeux 🤣🤣🤣 those cost figures are outrageous! 😳 Battery service and upgrades will nullify any longterm Cost Savings. Corporate America doesn't care about longterm maintenance, upgrades, recycling, or End of Life disposal of spent battery packs. They're focused on selling More Units 😏 See: #LoneSkum, aka Elon Musk 🤨

Did I miss where the SCBA is kept???

@nmak

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like mounted on a slide-out at 6:26. Perhaps also stored below seats in the cab.

@paxundpeace9970

2 жыл бұрын

LA is operating a clean cab. So no SCBA in the seats.

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

over here if we had stagnated Firefighters would still be turning up in Engines with pumps controlled on either side, slopped back with escape ladders and firefighters wearing modern tunics and trousers but Cromwell county cork helmets potentially high plummed and in black.

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Dublin that is the real Dublin from 988 AD keeps theirs in the seat.

How much does it cost to fully charge it every day in the Firehouse?

@EnjoyFirefighting

2 жыл бұрын

depends on if you run solar panels at the station? Or otherwise where the power comes from and at which cost ...

Beautiful rig, I wish we could get one down in South Mississippi. But I t might take 20 years to get one

I would worry about using a Lithium NMC battery on a fire truck considering the fire risk, especially when exposed to an area with a heightened temperature. The risk of a fire increases further when the battery is charging, like when the range extender is on. I couldn't find documentation on the chemical makeup of the battery, but it seems these are sourced from Volvo Penta which uses Samsung SDI prismatic cells.

@toddpacker7058

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dad.

@cmiller46

2 жыл бұрын

The firetruck isn't actually in the fire...

@theyearwas1473

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know what fire department you've been at, but I've never been at one where we park the engine on top of the fire. Safe distancing and placement is always a pre-plan. I mean unless you're on some crazy rodeo cowboy department that you pulled the fire engine in through half the house that's on fire to get the water as close as possible. The rest of us have these things called hoses that reach quite a distance and if we need more guess what, we have more and can get more.

@KevinSmith-qi5yn

2 жыл бұрын

Issue with Lithium NMC batteries and should be worrisome in areas at heightened temperatures: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKWcqKOsh9uqcrw.html

@daltonx6177

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you should really contact Rosenbauer about that, I'm sure they completely forgot about the implications of the lithium safety risks ! 🤣

They have a great modern truck with wooden ladders LOL.

@greek7737

2 жыл бұрын

wooden ladders are used for electrical situations, it's not a money thing.

@thenussbaum44

2 жыл бұрын

@@greek7737 They are the only ones who use them in the world that I know of.

@thanojon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenussbaum44 incorrect. San Francisco also uses wooden ladders. It's not just a tradition thing but they prefer them due to the enormous amount of electrical lines that cast over city areas / neighborhoods like spider webs.

@greek7737

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenussbaum44 no almost every single fire company has a ground ladder, just los angeles city fire and los angeles county fire put them on the outside of their trucks so they are easier to get out, los angeles ofcourse has a lot more electrical issues then most cities in the US.

@thenussbaum44

2 жыл бұрын

@@thanojon1 So you found one more department that does it. Those cities aren't much different than any other major city in this country and abroad with electrical hazards. I care less if they choose to do it I just made a statement pretty archaic.

What’s amazing about that every feature is a human thought

Additional batteries allow for the recharge?

@MrJimheeren

25 күн бұрын

No a small diesel engine. Just to reload the batteries in case that’s needed

After riding around in a Pierce Arrow XT for the past 5 years, this truck looks like a breath of fresh air. Congrats to LA.

@userokg751

2 жыл бұрын

Oh really you really think that this is the solution to the problem you see if one stopped voting for the Democrats one would need these electric vehicles

@sadlersquad

2 жыл бұрын

@@userokg751 Never said it was the solution to anything. I just thought it was a cool rig. Anytime a department gets a new truck it’s suppose to be a good time. Fuck all the politics.

Definitely state of the art!!! Beautiful rig! Failed to mention the cost??? I’m sure local tax payers would be thrilled to know!

@amboyfirebuff409

2 жыл бұрын

1 million.

@mfd78

2 жыл бұрын

And subtract the cost of the fuel (currently at $6 or 7 per gallon)over the vehicles lifetime. Also subtract the associated costs that electric vehicles have none or very little of including oil, oil changes, engine cooling systems, drive transmission or maintenance, exhaust system, regen system and station exhaust mitigation. Yes, the backup generator will need service but that is more on the scale of small engine repair.

@SpecterSeventy2

2 жыл бұрын

@@amboyfirebuff409 I’d be shocked (pun intended?) if it was “just one million”.

@amboyfirebuff409

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpecterSeventy2 its like 1.2 million

@SpecterSeventy2

2 жыл бұрын

@@amboyfirebuff409I believe that … but I bet that’s not for the model we see here and only for the most basic model build available.

The pump is ran on electric? Or did I miss something?

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

yes it is running on battery power

Question, is there a way to make this new tech be available on the older style trucks? I dont mind the euro look but kinda would love to see also the EV technology on something more traditional.

@breaklux3823

4 ай бұрын

the only reason the truck looks like it does, is because it's based on the european RT truck. I'm sure they would also be able to build a more american looking truck, like they do with the rest of their lineup.

@patricktho6546

4 ай бұрын

I mean older doesn't mean better, so changing the tradition is better, if the new design is objectively better

Impressive! Rosenbauer never fails to impress.

Interested in the hybrid design. The LAFD said they were pleased to be reducing the Diesel emissions to zero, but they aren't really accomplishing that. It isn't unlikely that the equipment will be needed for the stated 2 hour battery capacity, at which point the Diesel "range extender" kicks in. So, how do the emissions from the range extender compare with a conventional truck's Diesel engine during such extended operations? Are the emissions standards for large truck engines (if there are any) actually stricter than for the range extender? Is anything special done to minimize the Diesel exhaust from the range extender so that it does not cause the same sort of exposure to fire crews that the LAPD said they are trying to reduce with this gear?

@brianb-p6586

2 жыл бұрын

The standard applied would be the same regardless of whether the truck is conventional or series hybrid. Heavy trucks do have emissions standards (the increasingly demanding standards drove Caterpillar right out of the over-the-road engine market) but they are not more strict than for lighter vehicles. The BMW engine used will be no worse (and likely better) than a traditional engine. I assume that operation beyond the battery capacity is so rare that diesel emissions will be very small compared to conventional operation.

@markdejong2309

2 жыл бұрын

The emissions are actually a lot lower, since it uses an diesel engine from an BMW SUV, and it powers the generator and not the pump or the engine, so it runs at an constant low RPM. The Rosenbauer RTX is already in use at the fire departments of Berlin, Amsterdam and Vienna, and especially in Berlin they used it at several large incidents and even when the range extender kicks in, it's incredibly silent, which ensures an much calmer incident site. And as Brian said, operation beyond battery capacity is rare. Let's also not forget that this is an prototype vehicle. An operational prototype, but still an prototype which they will improve.

@paxundpeace9970

2 жыл бұрын

Those modes are rarely used based on experience from Berlin.

@brandontierney9489

2 жыл бұрын

Me patiently waiting for Californias rolling brown outs and these trucks can’t charge! Pierce Volterra i believe is a better option. I live in a rural area and some calls have gone over 12 hours and trucks had to be refueled before returning to their stations.

@brianb-p6586

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandontierney9489 the Rosenbauer RTX and the Pierce Volterra work the same way, although the RTX is a series hybrid and the Volterra is a power-split hybrid. In either case they are fully functional on battery power, and equally functional on diesel when the battery runs low.

That's the happiest little firetruck I've ever seen! I'm sure it will be a big hit at the PRIDE parade this year!

Innovation!!

This thing looks awesome, can't wait to see it on a fire

Oh great, they’re bringing the ice cream trucks to the US now. Looks and jokes aside, I’ll always be against the digitalization of fire apparatus. Perfect example, one of the local stations has a quint which practically runs off an onboard computer. Its in the shop frequently, at one point last year spending several days a month in the shop over the course of four months, its cost them thousands. Meanwhile, you’ve got workhorses from the 90s to early 2000s running the show for our county’s fire protection, thats not to say these rigs don’t fail, they do, but it’s mostly due to age, not poor manufacturing. how well is this thing going to be running in 20 to 30 years? Im not against change or progression, but from what I’ve seen, these computers on wheels lead to large bills, and lack luster performance.

@fbm314

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a fan of traditional designs but also understand the need for progression. But I agree fully I can’t ever see pump controls being fully electronic/digital.that’s just a recipe for disaster

@paxundpeace9970

2 жыл бұрын

We can only judge about it when we do a few years with and professional fire fighting departments replace the Engine every 10 or 12 years like they do it in New York the oldest spare engine is from 2002 regular Reserve engines are from 2008 or 2009

@LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the computerization of vehicles, and it makes me even more annoyed that electric vehicles COULD HAVE had LESS computers in them, but no, here we are. That is why I am looking forward to seeing the E-One Vector. It still has the standard pump controls.

@alexanderkupke920

2 жыл бұрын

Can only chime in on this from a European perspective, you see those pump controls as standard on vehicles 20 years and older without widespread issues, so seems to be reliable enough.

@angelr.ricado3647

2 жыл бұрын

They need to make money somehow. So they will probably get a 10 year life span and spend $$$$ more. Same way cars can be built to last for decades but now they last about 5 years. It’s just alll about $$$$

how does it operate in winter climat?

@brandons2411

2 ай бұрын

it's la, they really don't have a "winter climate" lol

Didn’t this truck have a massive leak in the pump shortly after being put in service???

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

I believe at fault of the users

Did I miss where the ground ladders are stored?

@chei86

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently you did. They’re in the back.

@Hellivaguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@chei86 Thank you, rewatched it and did find what looks like a single ladder compartment.

@solarissv777

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hellivaguy there seems to be 2 ladder comparments: one (lower) for a single ladder, and one (upper) big enough for at least two ladders.

Cant wait to see this in action🤩

@maxahissou7574

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

This is definitely the coolest fire truck. Other than the Panther.

very euro looking the mobile command is really cool though

Breaking news: City of Los Angeles saves money by adding firefighting capabilities to the latest city busses.

@RoadsFranconia

2 жыл бұрын

Funny... NOT!

@ProbablyRight

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha.

You guys should've went one step further since it's an electric vehicle you should've put solar panels in the rooftop so the vehicle can charge when it's out and about running calls and navigating the streets especially for Los Angeles with how big that place is the traffic would be a big issue for the vehicle.

@matthewhaverkamp8657

2 жыл бұрын

Would not generate enough power to do much of anything.

@mfd78

2 жыл бұрын

These charge at 480v in the station. As Matthew stated, a couple of solar panels would power the computer and that’s it.

@ryanburbridge

2 жыл бұрын

Solar panels are absolute garbage… Soo why?

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Also they could use street chargers

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Very innovative, I like this!

The booster line pumps 100 gpm @ 600psi?

@limwiching2277

2 жыл бұрын

high pressure water pump, very common in asia, very use full using high pressure water force + form for to put down vehicles fire.

@thisissparta789789

2 жыл бұрын

@@limwiching2277 And in Europe. Very high pressure is common in firefighting outside of the US.

@xshowda

2 жыл бұрын

@@thisissparta789789 Actually, the 600 psi line is only called "High pressure", very high pressure is called "Ultra High Pressure System" (you can watch videos of it from Rosenbauer here on youtube) which operates at 1450 psi

That's great. What about thermal runaway? Those are some massive batteries, would probably burn for weeks.

@Rafmeistr

4 ай бұрын

Weeks? Also, people seem to be forgetting that cars and trucks drive around with flammable liquids that explode when heated or ignited lmao. As far as i know a thermal runaway will gradually develop into something dangerous if its noticed in time, giving people a better chance is escaping, compared to say a leaking fuel system that catches fire. Managing an energy source is always a design challenge, whether it be battery or gas or liquid. People just have a weird attitude towards batteries it feels like

Great looking truck, but I have one question: What is the point of having headsets with an electric truck?

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Sirens

@CDB8939

Жыл бұрын

Because they have always had them. It looks like they took them off the Engine that there 30 years ago

@patricktho6546

4 ай бұрын

bc the US still uses them, while in Europe we don't for quite some time.

Question what happens if the on board computer fails in middle of a operation

@TheDutchGuy27

2 жыл бұрын

Question what happens if the internal combustion engine fails in middle of operation

@cmiller46

2 жыл бұрын

Well, seeing as how internal combustion engines have been around 150 years or so... I can't say that I've ever heard of a software update breaking one either.

@TheDutchGuy27

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmiller46 You do know electric motors are older than the internal combustion engine by, say, 30 years? And way fewer moving parts thus more reliable. As for the software part, go take a look at your local car shop and count al the software issues in modern vehicles.

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

@@cmiller46 I've heard of modern diesel powered trucks breaking down due to software issues. Either the truck itself, or the pump with all its software

@patricktho6546

4 ай бұрын

that's like asking what happens, when the ICE is broken on an older engine, and the answer is you have dead truck, which succs, but it's the same for every drievetrain

This will cost WAY more than the majority of departments can afford. For volunteer departments, this will be out of reach.

@EnjoyFirefighting

Жыл бұрын

first volunteer department from a small municipality in Germany signed the contract for this one already

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Because over here we have a thing called merging of fire brigades and all of them being funded by taxpayers

Very nice. The engine looks similar to Japanese and some European fire trucks.

@MrRCGNL

Жыл бұрын

It sure looks "un-american"

@bloodravensterminator8594

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRCGNL well they are a German company iirc

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Anybody using the term un anything is bound to be small minded.

@CDB8939

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodravensterminator8594 Austrian Company

Awsome

Wasnt this kind of fire truck tested in Berlin (Germany)? In Germany was called E-HLF

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Yes it was and was a resounding success