Why in the hell would anyone talk to Neil Kinnock about how to win an election?

@SJ-oi7tk

7 жыл бұрын

Baron Kinnock of Bedwellty has done well for himself and his son, Stephen. And that's the standard for liberal-conservative, competitive individualist, politics: I've got mine.

@khadrtrudeau1662

4 жыл бұрын

" anyone talk to Neil Kinnock" Joe Biden was happy to plagiarizer his speeches.

@adielstephenson2929

3 жыл бұрын

Because he won twice?

@BBBoggs

3 жыл бұрын

@@adielstephenson2929 , no he didn't. He failed in '87 and in '92. What are you talking about?

@adielstephenson2929

3 жыл бұрын

@@BBBoggs Oh, OK. Thanks.

I love watching videos like this with hindsight...

Well, this is now unintentionally hilarious.

@alchased

4 жыл бұрын

Your comment sure is

Getting Kinnock to speak? A loser if ever there was one. He backed down to Thatcher and betrayed Liverpool.

@johnburns4017

7 жыл бұрын

***** Liverpool still has not recovered from what Thatcher did - not fully opposed by Kinnock. The Tories are on still on their hate campaign against the city still to this day. The Tories left Liverpool off HS2, when a HS2 line will be only 16 miles away. Neighbours Manchester are having a 7.5 mile tunnel bored into the city to accommodate HS2. The economies and populations of both cities are about equal. Kinnock will not visit the city of Liverpool. The only real opposition to Thatcher was Liverpool.

@johnburns4017

7 жыл бұрын

olehomer88 Who are these "we"?

@mango4ttwo635

7 жыл бұрын

Balls. Labour under Foot was never gonna win. It had a third party to contend with including right wing MPs who had left the Labour party. In nine years, Kinnock only managed to raise the Labour vote by 6.5 points despite a split Tory party, a second Thatcher recession and the poll tax. And to whom? The inspiring John Major. This is no longer 1983, or 1994. It is a very different age. Thatcherism and the low wage, easy credit age has collapsed. In 1994, a young person seeking uni education and a starter home needed £50K of debt, today he/she needs over half a million. Many older, and lucky to be home owner people are completely unaware of the mess as they have been bailed out. But how long are bailouts gonna last?

BBC INTERVIEWER(to Corbyn) "isn't that pie in the sky" Apparently not

Well done Corbyn

@chunt5073

4 жыл бұрын

Yep well done corbyn 🤣

Love it when anti corbyn MP's talk about how they shouldn't be infighting when they clearly started the fight and are clearly forcing the divide. Also the bias in this video is shameful

@sbarmyman

7 жыл бұрын

Educate yourself, have a good day :)

Level of propaganda in British media is reaching astounding levels. It's amazing to think that there are any people who actually buy this crap. As the television watching generation dies out, we start standing a chance.

Oh how things have changed

@jamesandrews5183

3 жыл бұрын

They sure have now...

@JosephStealin

3 жыл бұрын

James Andrews thank god! 🇬🇧

This video hasn't aged well

@chunt5073

4 жыл бұрын

It sure has ... 🤣

@denzel9086

4 жыл бұрын

C hunt 😂

And that is why I no longer watch BBC.

@sickbailey21

7 жыл бұрын

This is why I refuse to pay a tv license.

@garsm2290

6 жыл бұрын

Why? Because they won't kiss Corbyn's rear end?

5 years later and Labour is more divided than ever before. It is basically 3 distinct parties operating under one coalition, the left, soft left and centre, and many people in those different factions clearly hate each other more than they hate the Tories. The Tories are also a coalition and at least 2 separate parties under one umbrella, and they also have rifts, but not to the same extent and they are better at uniting at elections / to ensure that they win / retain power.

@sidevans1

2 жыл бұрын

this comment aged well

@Da1Dez

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidevans1 I still wouldn't say Labour are out of the woods yet though, even if they have just won back Wakefield and are ahead in the polls they've still got more to prove. Plus it could just take Boris to resign and suddenly Labour look small and feeble again when the Tories have a new leader, after all remember when Theresa May appeared to make the Tories look like they would loose the next election and then everything quickly changed when she left.

labour is back and stronger this election, more seats, more influence!

@haggishighways

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't age well 😂😂

Yes, Jeremy is so great, great at ruining the Labour party, 20 years in politics and managed to do...........fuck all.

If the Labour party lost people in the past it was for the reason that the Blair Labour party was a lukewarm version of the Tories and neoliberal and anti-worker at that. I call that a reason to leave Labour too. Corbyn turned that around refusing to support the neoliberal lie that austerity is a fiscal necessity. JC4PM!

Just have to say that guys moustache is awesome.

Looks like it's a no.

Those two entryists at the end are scary. They would come for you in the night...

Labour as a soft Tory party is Over that's for sure, u can count them apples :)

Looking back, is this a fair assesment? or should appologies be forthcoming? Unelectable my arssssssss

"I think Trotsky is (sic.) a great socialist - I support a lot of his ideas." You've got to love these criminals. No wonder they never get into power and let's hope they never do.

The Tories do not ban people for being members of ukip then joining the Tories

@venmis137

18 күн бұрын

And look at what that's done to the Tories. They are a mess, and likely to suffer their worst election result since they were founded in 1832.

Why does he keep saying "Brighton?" It's Hove actually.

wow. nice hatchet job BBC.

totally agree

Given 13 million just voted for us, I'd say no.

To all genuine labour supporters ,DNT despair your return to government is swiftly coming ,as a former Tory I can see the demise of most political parties ,labour v conservative is finally scrapping over mundane nonsence

It's unfortunately still the same.

So is it, John? :-)

@chocolatebiscuitsandtea0587

3 жыл бұрын

yeppp loooool

LOL

Lol. X =an unknown quantity Spurt = a drip under pressure. 8 months ago there were was a lot of 'expert' opinion here. Not looking quite so clever now.

Bias reporting like we have never seen before. But it didn't work!

Pie in the sky humble pie in the sky that the PLP are now eating

How ya like me now?

2015 - 2017: Oh God No... 😣 2017 - 2018: Haha why did we worry? 😅 2019 - Present: It's true... 😪

@Da1Dez

21 күн бұрын

*2019 - 2021: It's true.... 😪 2022 - 2024: Prob win, but meh 😏

Jeremy was right all a long

Welcome to Fox News !!

time to say goodbye to this outdated party

More BS from the Beeb

The answer is no

lol

Short answer - Yes.

@ethanballs8310

7 жыл бұрын

Not Your Uncle hopefully Ainsley

@notyouruncle8317

7 жыл бұрын

Craig121000 The Labour Party is collapsing, no way can it recover from this.

@ethanballs8310

7 жыл бұрын

Craig121000 did you vote for brexit?

@notyouruncle8317

7 жыл бұрын

Craig121000 The Conservatives are actually doing practical developments with their time, Labour are still squabbling amongst themselves like primary school children.

@notyouruncle8317

7 жыл бұрын

Craig121000 I think what you're trying to say is that the Conservatives have lowered the number of benefit claimants by getting them into employment; thats why employment records have never been higher.

I think the answer is no ..... Real question , are the Tories finished ? ....It's looking very likely each passing day .

@leighparr6253

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Flaherty Exactly brother and when the present pensionable generation die out the tory neoliberal con is over.

@chocolatebiscuitsandtea0587

3 жыл бұрын

looooooooool wrong

@michealflaithbheartaigh4139

3 жыл бұрын

In hindsight.. It runs out both parties are on the payroll of China

@venmis137

18 күн бұрын

@@michealflaithbheartaigh4139 what do you mean by this?

On the labour membership card it says DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST party. But I ain't seen much of either description

This is fun,watching these back stabbers now that they've been proved wrong. A very different song they're singing now.

Owen who?

27:30

labour party is the opposition. That's there job. They have that job and they're not doing it

@mango4ttwo635

7 жыл бұрын

Balls

Just remember even if your team loses every game for 20 years they wont be as bad as labour hahaha

Labour is reincarnated by jeremy corbyn.

Lol

Eff socialism.

seems to be pure lies, nice one panorama!

angizoink - My comments were expressed in a civilized manner-your reply was abusive so I will not have any further discussion with you. Ta-ra.

Proporama

Labour's over the top?🐩

Hamas are his Brothers!!

lol... so the position we are in is good yeah!.. DENIAL.. DENIAL.. DENIAL..

Yes th labour party is over

Hope too lord the anti Semitic scandal is not true then again I could not care less anymore if it is I am a Conservative party support nowadays I defected from UKIP and Labour Party after these accusations started going around and didn’t think about going for supporting brexit party I would support a Ukip and Conservative alliance or brexit party and Conservative party alliance

Accept Refugees UK! ~~ Your stronger, younger son, Merica. "Your not the boss of me now, your not the boss of me now, and your not so big!"

@ManiacMike

7 жыл бұрын

LCarlTBM x God no we haven't got no houses

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Are you Corbynistas still defending him after losing Copeland? I'm not making fun of you, I promise, I'm genuinely interested.

@georgehayes3494

6 жыл бұрын

Edmund West I did because I knew it'd come through... and it has...

@Da1Dez

2 жыл бұрын

He lost a lot more than Copeland in the long run!

proper propaganda

Funny to hear the doomsayers now after the GE2017 and Labour looking healthy with its new direction away from the old "New Labour."

@chocolatebiscuitsandtea0587

3 жыл бұрын

LOOOOOOOL aged like milkkkkkk

@Da1Dez

3 жыл бұрын

Funny reading all the 2017 comments who didn't know what awaited!

i used to try and think up ways of putting the labour party down now i dont have to diane abbott and jeremy corbyn do it for me lol .please dont leave the labour party you ensure you have no chance he he

WTF BBC?

If socialism isn't working out the solution is simple, even more socialism.

@nicheman3612

7 жыл бұрын

If capitalism causes a crisis such as in 2008, the solution is more capitalism.

@nicheman3612

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah well the thing is you have to accept my statement as factual, whereas you're presumably referring to bolshevism which funnily enough I don't have an affinity to so I will never accept that charge. Poverty, imperialist wars, slavery, pollution, cataclysmic consumption of the planet's resources are all still ongoing and causing millions of deaths every year. They can all be linked to the dark exploitative side of capitalism. Socialism in various forms has been implemented into capitalist structures and led to a lot of positive facets of life that we take for granted such as human rights, workers rights, social mobility, healthcare, holidays, education, transport available for the masses etc...

Labour, the party of the unaccomplished.

@Somozusi

7 жыл бұрын

That's a rather sweeping statement to make. Tell me of your great accomplishments in life - genuinely curious.

@chosenforareason4727

7 жыл бұрын

Somozusi When I speak of accomplishment, I refer to even modest accomplishments, such as , not employed by a government agency, such as relying not on your government pension, but in fact, developing ones own retirement strategy. Further, one can add accomplishments as simple as, raising children who are self reliant. And still further, being able to look beyond a government mandated 20 cent minimize raise. There are many ways one can be accomplished and for me, none, none, none, rely on the government to give them to me.

@sickbailey21

7 жыл бұрын

43% of our entire work force is on less than a living wage. It's not a problem of how people are raising their kids, but the wider economy. Based on the current governments budget policy, we will be giving the same amount of tax breaks to the 20% of households as the bottom 20% by 2020. 80+% of the current governments financial policy benefits those earning 100,000 pounds a year or more, while at the same time they have tried to increase taxes on the self employed and cut disability benefits. Labour is the party of people who give a shit about people which want a better life for everyone, not just those able to get the right helping hands.