I think the restoration of this river, especially the 11 miles within the city, is a worthwhile investment. Green spaces are vital for wildlife and for community wellness.

Can't lie, I love a good soft-bottom trapezoidal channel

@Rob02150

Жыл бұрын

Not as nice as concrete lined trapezoidal channel with it's soft bottom a little down steam. 🤤

@jameswebbspacetelescope5159

Жыл бұрын

i cant like this comment enough

@planestrainsdogsncars4336

Жыл бұрын

I think I've seen that video.

@avnsteve1

Жыл бұрын

Before you hippies slip off your birkenstocks and get in bed with ACE, do yourself a favor and remember these are the SAME politicos, NOT ENGINEERS, that gave NOLA their Mississippi River management and flood plan. I'm sure ACE has a handful of smart people but it's the fed. The fed can't get out of their own way, think Katrina 2005. Your left coast has enough problems as it is, do NOT let the fed drive your train. I disagree with most of Cali's politics, but the federal government cannot and will not help your situation

@jameswebbspacetelescope5159

Жыл бұрын

@@avnsteve1 honestly tired of government involvement in everything. and the politicization of literally everything. and the amount of extremely under qualified people working important jobs

Yes! Cannot wait for them to free the river from it's concrete tomb!

Restoring the river with good design and forethought will benefit both humans and wildlife and also help with cooler spaces during heatwaves 💚

The background music is annoying making it harder to focus on the talking points. 🤨

I grew up a block from the LA river and was ten before I found out not all rivers are concrete-lined!

Makes me very happy to see and hear of this plan. I would donate the little I have to this project. Good job city engineers on this one.

I wonder whether the concrete "floor" of the channel is removed during this renaturalisation project and thus connection of river and water tables is at least somehow restored, or whether they just create "natural river" in that channel.

@witext

Жыл бұрын

They are restoring the concrete bottom as I understand it to allow for better absorption of water during floods, they mention the "soft bottom" of the river and I imagine that's what they mean

Can’t wait for this environmental update!

This will make our city much more enjoyable for everyone.

Now they just need to restore 6 lane stroads back into walkable urban streets. For the people and bussines to grow once again.

Forget about getting LATC from Union Pacific. That's a key intermodal facility for them.

Any timeline on when construction will start? I remember hearing about this project a few years ago.

@guineapigzed

Жыл бұрын

Still paying off politicians.

@chasbodaniels1744

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Zed … and landowners.

@Metal0sopher

Жыл бұрын

There is another video in the suggestions that's from 12 years ago, so I guess, next century.

@homerj806

Жыл бұрын

It has started some time ago. It is a long term project. If you go towards the outlet south of the 405 and north of Dodger Stadium it really looks like a river. It is easier to put the concrete in than it is to take it out

@LegendLength

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't seem that great to be honest but there's not much you can do when people live so closely together.

They did this throughout the area back then. The creek behind our house was cemented in (1965) and it completely changing the eco system. The only upside to it all was it also created "highways" for us kids to ride. Bikes, horses, etc. Many times we rode our horses down to the beach or up to the mountains via the trails along the various creeks and rivers. Today, there are homeless camps scattered along the levees. Which is really sad to see. On so many levels.

@veramae4098

Жыл бұрын

There are interesting statistics showing that as trees are removed from a region, crime goes up. And Vice versa.

@socalgal714

Жыл бұрын

@@veramae4098 that's interesting! I definitely can believe that.

@LK-pc4sq

Жыл бұрын

40% of all homeless in the United States are located in California!

@socalgal714

Жыл бұрын

@@LK-pc4sq it's the weather. Makes being without a place to call home much easier to survive.

@tron23058

Жыл бұрын

@@veramae4098 When a father stays with his kids and wife, crime goes down. There's a bunch of trees in South Central, probably more trees, and larger trees, than before urban flight and President Johnson's "Great Society".

Thanks Army Corps of Engineers for all your wonderful work.

I used to play in that river back in the '60s. I lived on San Carlos St. in Paramount.

The way top deal with flooding is to slow the water upstream, not to speed it up downstream. hundreds of thousands of beavers use to provide this function in California, but they are almost completely wiped out, and it is illegal to release a beaver into the wild in the state. There also used to be a huge lake in southern California, but it was drained to make a desert.

@radsoup89

Жыл бұрын

Throw some beavers in there once the restoration is complete...we could retain a lot of the water that we let run off into the ocean during flood events.

How long before they realize that concreting the river like this is making the drought conditions worse?

@b_uppy

Жыл бұрын

LA (and most California) politicians are so clueless. The way they treat water adds to: Wildfire problems; infrastructure costs; brownouts/blackouts (because electricity used for pumping water for irrigation in communities); cost of living; air and water pollution; etc They need to degulate regarding rainwater harvesting. Capturing rainwater to wear it falls needs to become a thing. Some easy ways is to utilize rainwater that comes off of roofs and streets for landscaping purposes instead of diverting it immediately to stormdrains. Raingardens, bioswales, gully repair, bunds, checkdams, etc from onsite materials would serve many purposes including resilience for most of So Cal.

@Affirmbuttress

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people realize that, but just removing the concrete could cause a lot of issues. It would be a huge engineering feat to restore the river and also avoid flooding and unpredictable ground water movements

@Sephiroth144

Жыл бұрын

@@Affirmbuttress Though I wonder if they could not entirely remove, but reduce the concrete and essentially install a buttress system, (perhaps using some of the in place concrete at the framing).

@rad2gnarly9

Жыл бұрын

they are already making it less conctrete.

@Jbk0860

Жыл бұрын

Watch the f***ing video…

im all for this

@keithadams812

Жыл бұрын

I bet you are I bet you're stupid enough to be for destroying our energy independence the independence in our economy.... Nothing you won't destroy because trump

thank you for doing this

It's interesting because the concrete look is iconic now for LA.

@matthewdavies2057

Жыл бұрын

The giant ants won't like it at all.

@tylerwatanabe-noguera2092

Жыл бұрын

iconic yes, good no

@Matty002

10 ай бұрын

@@tylerwatanabe-noguera2092yeah less 'iconic' more infamous

Can we have a map of the river with listings of each movie filmed in it?

that sounded so fluffy!

Interesting and 👍.

Green space! Trees. We have that in Dallas Tx. Bike trails.

@EZ-mx5ci

Жыл бұрын

Lucky. 😤

Corporate wanted me to find the difference between the two ferraro fields pictures, but it turns out there is none. It is a nice initiative though, Id like it if it were to remove the concrete.

Bravo

Ridiculous how the bike and walking path upgrades along almost the entire length of the river have been ignored by these producers. Except for a section from the downtown train yards to Atlantic Avenue, one can ride without any traffic interference from the San Fernando Valley to Long Beach. 50 miles! Where else in a US major urban area can that be done?

why does the bike path abruptly end in Vernon? I want to be able to bike from Long Beach all the way to Griffith Park using the LA River, but they refuse to make a connection point in Vernon/Boyle Heights and Downtown LA

Will this slow down the removal of bodies, via the river, to Long Beach?

@ProvidingSpam

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@xray606

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the stolen cars that get thrown in there.

@randygravel2057

Жыл бұрын

@@xray606 Don’t forget about homeless 💩

great job guys, now execute the plan

Roosevelt would've been proud.

Being from L.A., this is wonderful to see!! Hope they remove the concrete on all of the LA rivers, plant trees and bushes and do a mass tree planting effort in the city.

@b_uppy

Жыл бұрын

They need to 'plant the water' first, otherwise they are causing more problems. Diverting street and roof runoff to bioswales and raingardens would help lessen the need to keep all the concrete as it is. It has a bunch of other positives as well, as I've discussed elsewhere in the commentary.

@whereswaldo5740

Жыл бұрын

Until it floods.

@encinobalboa

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Flood control comes first.

@USACE90017

Жыл бұрын

Join us for a virtual update on the Los Angeles River Ecosystem Restoration Project. Meeting: 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Feb. 8 WebEx: usace1.webex.com/meet/melanie.j.ellis

Huell Howser did a very interesting video about the LA river years ago. Check it out. 😉

Hello for more updates about the LA River project please join us for a public meeting Feb. 8 at 5pm. Join us for a virtual update on the Los Angeles River Ecosystem Restoration Project. Meeting: 5 p.m. on Wednesday, Feb. 8 WebEx: usace1.webex.com/meet/melanie.j.ellis

LA is NOT hyper urban at all. ALL of it's problems stem from it being a car-centric suburb. Also, the LA river is manmade: It's simply a result of bad planning from the beginning.

@witext

Жыл бұрын

The LA river is definetely a result of bad planning from the beginning but there was definetely a river there before it was settled that was then made into what it is today I guess you could considere todays river a completely different river but it took the place of natural LA river at least

Folks ever consider that since the start of the paving over the natural area for people that it caused the current state of droughts that occur in the area? Maybe there is a reason for the flood plains that have been altered for the city to grow.

They should figure a way to divert any fresh water from this river back to a reservoir for reuse.

@USACE90017

11 ай бұрын

We did recollect a lot of water during the recent storm. Thanks for your comment.

I wonder how floods will affect the soft bottom and tree plantings. Seems a lot of work will get washed away.

Concreting a river is bad for ground water. In every few KM there should be natural wetlands ponds and natural stone river path.

Why would they destroy a busy railroad yard just to build a forest.

@jeffhopper6393

Жыл бұрын

Because the Union Pacific Railroad quite frankly doesn't care about the property anymore- and I don't blame em especially with high container thefts in that area. Union Pacific has already begun the process of moving everything over to other rail yards especially in the beginning of the year. The UP was already considering selling this property last year in response to the cargo thefts in the area, so if the City is paying them to leave, you better believe they'll take it- and I don't blame em.

Better tenting grounds for the homeless!

Best start STORING that water somehow...FRESH water dumped into the ocean.

I always thought it was an open sewer for street runoff. Did not realize it was a natural river when I visited.

Wait, I just realized that interstates go up in number as they go east.

"Changed paradise, put up a parking lot"

@abark

Жыл бұрын

Said no one about LA ever, boomer.

@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503

Жыл бұрын

@@abark didn't have to say DID! DUH 🙄🤔 Eric Underwood Class of 81 Downey High school CA ✌️ Last of the Boomers!

Lived in LA for 31 years.... Never understood why the CONCRETE rivers were never used as additional freeway lanes. Use gates at entrances when rain was forecasted.....close it off. No big trucks just autos. Or use as carpool lanes. There must be some reason why.

they should include how many homeless camps will pop their tents there on that mock model...

excited!

Brilliant. Press on!

But with this change to the river where the radioactive giant ants be able to live? Save THEM.

I have lived in the Los Angeles area and have seen the River filled almost to the top. It’s gonna happen again.

@randellgribben9772

Жыл бұрын

and who fault is it, that we built to close to a river..then put in a concrete channel?

@Napsteraspx

Жыл бұрын

The concrete makes flooding worse; the water has nowhere to soak in

@stevefritz5182

Жыл бұрын

Yep, a real flood will move all this planning into the ocean. Didn't they see the pictures they posted at the top of the video?

@samnind9527

Жыл бұрын

How can you call that a river?

@xray606

Жыл бұрын

Shhhhhh.... Don't ruin their little fantasy.

How is there water in it?

@guineapigzed

Жыл бұрын

Flushing toilets

@randellgribben9772

Жыл бұрын

@@guineapigzed many more sources of water, mate.. perhaps.....learning about this before you post... you dont want everyone to know, that you are a fool, right?

@guineapigzed

Жыл бұрын

@@randellgribben9772 check out lake Balboa

@randellgribben9772

Жыл бұрын

@@guineapigzed i live in sacramento... the sacramento riiver from reading to rio vista... there are 4 large citys that use the water.. and a dozen citys on the feather river.. yuba river.. and other smaller citys that use the same water... did you see the... that word??? "USE" the same water that is treated sent down the river and used again,, treated, put back in the river and used again..... so what is your point

493 subscribers :-D wow. just out of curiosity, - why instead of those projects LA won't do something good about traffic?

@licitdeviant317

Жыл бұрын

LA and OC area are not walkable, the entire area was designed for cars.

@arishem555

Жыл бұрын

@@licitdeviant317 still they can have public transit to get from one location to another. But you are probably right, - nuclear war will help LA to change the city 😀

I dont undersand how could angelenos lead the water management to this state. South california is subtropic area. Miles of concrete, asphalt and buildings everywhere nearby the river and also concrete bottom of river. Almost no riaparian zones. No place for beavers. If the city sufers occasional floods, the first solution is to collect water in the upper flows in he hills. Are there some swales, contour trenches, or bunds in the mountains above LA ? Next building some river side channels with polders in the riparian zone. In my opinion the whole LA metropolitan area also need several hundreds of hectare or more large ponds too with parks. And people should harvest rain water from building and parking places.

@b_uppy

Жыл бұрын

So glad to see you feel as I do. WHERE is the sensible water management??? A huge part of the problem is zoning, land use rules, etc. They need to connect with their inner Brad Lancaster. Instead they are constantly experiencing floods, droughts, heat waves etc, infrastructure strain, air and water pollution, wildfires, etc and then they have these behemoth concrete channels that only add to their overall problems. They need to utilize rainwater from roofs, and street runoff diverted to bioswales and raingardens via curbcuts and curbbores. These are additional strategies can add resiliency in a city with a very high cost of living...

@Losttoanyreason

Жыл бұрын

Actually it's a Mediterranean climate not sub tropical which makes water retention management all the more important. Every time the smart people want to build more rain water catchments for the drouts which we know California never have, the radical greenies who only live in the moment nip that in the bud. Naturalizing the river back is a nice thing so long as it's all done on California's dime not the rest f the countries tax money; but if they aren't careful and carry the radical greenie agends too far as they always seem to do, they will end up with the same bad flooding once again that resulted in the concrete channel being built to begin with.

@jerroldkazynski5480

Жыл бұрын

Big Tujunga Wash brings down TONS of sediment. That will not stop. Lakeview Terrace, anyone? More like Gravel Pit Vista.

@pjaro77

Жыл бұрын

@@Losttoanyreason It is more precise. I am from middle europe and we have similar flood problems especially from summer storms even if the country soil and forests are dry. The special rain water catchments are very important here too. The climate here changed quite enough compared to period 30-40 years ago.

i remember falling on that concrete multiple times

That's nice but do not put any golf courses along the rivers course

Make sure to include bike paths.

What river, there’s no water

All those trees and bushes are going to get washed away in the next major downpour, what are these engineers thinking? Look at the history and why the channel was concreted.

@josephlalock8378

Жыл бұрын

was thinking the same thing.

@Sahadi420

Жыл бұрын

concreting the channel is THEE WORST THING YOU CAN DO FOR FLOOD WATERS. LOL California is in the mess they're in DUE TO THE WAY THEY CONTROL THEIR STATE.

The Mississippi River has dried up. CA and AZ cant pipeline that water out west.

is the LA river vaccinated and quad-boosted?

Restore restore restore now

Damn gurl, you go bringin' that soft-bottom trapezoidal channel...

Watch them make in only in the nice areas

Restore with endemic plants

A new homeless mecca!

Kind of an Icon, and a tourist destination you're ruining.

All I know is that is the best race track to grind out for your max transmission level and unlocking the turbo

ngl the revamping of the sides is good and all but leaving the river itself looking like garbage is not great. at least add some more islands or wetland cover

I am still amazed that all of the water goes to the ocean. If only you could build another reservoir or two to collect what rain water does flow through it. By now, every one knows that there is a lack of water in the area.

@Intamin

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I feel the same. But it would need to be incredibly purified to turn back into drinking water of any acceptable quality.

@agonzgonzalez7748

Жыл бұрын

Las Vegas recycles most of its water so it’s easily doable.

@abbyhillman769

Жыл бұрын

Even back when it was a natural river, the LA river was dry for a significant percentage of the year. Most of the water that flows down the channel today is recycled water from industry and runoff from streets (sprinkler run-off, etc)--not water from the mountains. But I agree that whatever water finally reaches the ocean should be harvested, cleaned, and used or re-used in the city to make the most of it instead of letting it go to the ocean.

@gobbletegook

Жыл бұрын

@@abbyhillman769 LA gets 14 inches of rain a year, usually from from December to March. That's still a lot of water that could be used when collected from miles of rooftops and parking lots.

@j377yb33n

Жыл бұрын

@@abbyhillman769 At least the water that goes through the wetlands here should get cleaned up, get back to the water cycle more effectively

sounds nice, will be full of hobo camps anyways

You bastards will never get away with it!! Oh wait, it's not a conspiracy video, it's the Core of Engineers. LOL

Tear up the ugly freeway and make the River a state park.

So we fucked up let's fix this shit b4 it gets worse

So, can someone remind me as to why LA pumps water all the way from Las Vegas? Seems like they could use that water.

Two perpetual problems; keeping people out of the river during high, fast waster periods, and culling the soft bottom growth to maintain the designed flow (capacity). The LA District, USACE has an excellent track record with the various challenges surrounding this flood control entity. 👍

@b_uppy

Жыл бұрын

Your looking at the problems/solutions at the wrong location. LA and So Cal has a dryness problem that contributes to flooding, wildfires, brownouts/blackouts, heat wave and drought fragility, high cost of living, etc that is exacerbated by traditional engineering's addiction to concrete and ditches. It is also harmed by bad regulations, zoning requirements, and politicians. Engineers and building planning departments need to go back to school and learn newer, better techniques that do smaller, frequent rainwater harvesting catchments using onsite materials instead of megalithic structures. Nearly every yard could have them, along with planting strips, parking lot landscaping, road areas that are disallowed for travel such as raised 'pork chops,' etc. There are lots of areas that are opportunities for regreening, adding beauty, rehydrating the landscape, mitigating wildfire etc. Decentralizing water management should be a thing.

@encinobalboa

Жыл бұрын

Green is nice but the primary purpose cannot be compromised. Flood control is everything.

@randellgribben9772

Жыл бұрын

@@encinobalboa if you live to close to a river and ir floods.. who fault is it? the river... that has a long history there..or the people, that built there homes on a flood plain?

@encinobalboa

Жыл бұрын

@@randellgribben9772 You are not making sense. The purpose of the concrete river way is to control floods to enable people to live in L.A. The flood of 1938 devastated L.A. far and wide. With the flood control measures in place, the flood of 2005 which had greater water flow rate did minimal to no damage.

@requen

Жыл бұрын

@@randellgribben9772 Might as well ask everyone who lives in a hurricane, earthquake, volcano, tsunami, tornado, extreme weather/terrain zone the same thing. But I bet you live in one of them.

This homeless camp site will be perfect.

Pretty sure We could spend this money on Alot better things. This river is the least of Calis problems.

It will be a great place for the crazies and junkies to camp out at.

Isn’t it still one of the most toxic water sources that exist tho? Like it’s literally human waste.

I don’t mean to sound negative but Most of the things the Corp of Engineers touch Fails. Marble Falls Tx pre ‘91, Canyon Lake, Buffalo Bayou during ALL Hurricanes Maybe they should rethink the math. It’s ALL about #’s

Why the horrible music overlay. I can't go on watching.

It's a flood control

Lol and how's controlling all that water working out for y'all?

Some parts of the channel reverted to nature all by themselves. What we need now are more reservoirs.

This will make for some very different movie scenes, compared to previous appearances.

Better engineers have more than concrete and steel in their toolbox. The concrete and steel channels caused many more problems than it solved. You need simplify laws and deregulate related bureaucracy and fees so that curbcuts, curbbores, bioswales and raingardens are used in a big way. That is an important part of water management strategy as well as beautification, crime reduction, lessening drought, heat wave, and flooding impacts, adding walkabolity/bikability, etc.

@TreeGod.

2 ай бұрын

Simplify laws and deregulate bureaucracy in California..? That is like asking water to be dry, or grass to turn red

@b_uppy

2 ай бұрын

@@TreeGod. That's why Cali has soon many problems. There is never a way to micromanage the little people that they dislike. Californians need to vote centrist, instead of nazi-like socialism. I say nazi-like because their current Leftist leadership is strongly aligned with big business, just like under Hitler.

@b_uppy

2 ай бұрын

@@TreeGod. Cali voters need to vote populist-centrist to lighten the regulatory load. They've keep opting for industrial-aligned fascists. The only difference is that politicians bow to mega corporate conglomerate dictates. This occurs instead of politicians acting on behalf of all.

It pains Gary Lee Moore when people don't get to experience nature geez Gary how much are you making how many kickbacks are you gonna get from this... Come on Gary you don't care about anything but yourself

million dollar question.... how will we keep it from getting full of trash? A river in the middle of LA? A magnet for pollution..

Looks pretty but as what cost?

These "before" pictures were taken years ago. Much of this plan has been executed.

Stop sending water to the ocean, stop our drought!

Giant ants won't like this much. 😮

Ain’t no water in the damn river

@sfxtd

Жыл бұрын

except during the week each year when it fills to near the top and the swift-water rescue teams get real busy

Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor. Why import fossil fuels when wind and solar energy can be produced locally and solar energy can power electric vehicles. We need solutions not just sympathy.

It was mentioned that there was a 100 acre parcel they could turn into wild lands. Looked like a full parking lot. That must be serving a need. What is the need and nice as trees are and I've planted over a milion my self where is that need going to be met?

@Visbalalam

Жыл бұрын

There is no need. Other existing eyesore parking lots can be used.

@John...44...

Жыл бұрын

You could overhaul your transport system so that cars are not the only way to get about? That would remove the need for all these carparks... and you have personally planted over a million trees?

@exoressdelivers70

Жыл бұрын

It's the bus terminal and maintenance yards for the Los Angeles city transit system.

Simply call the Dutch, at a cost of course we wil fix your water problems haha

Good , you have the river, now you just need to figure a way to push the entire city in & let it wash out to sea

Needs to look more like the Cheonggyecheon in Seoul sooner than later